Karla Homolka has left Canada for the Caribbean

[Xainia]

Karla Homolka, one of Canada's most notorious criminals, has pulled up stakes for the Caribbean, according to French-language television network TVA.

Story 1 (http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=2a8b0256-b090-40e7-be6e-aa839bccb0fb&k=2217)

Story 2 (http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/285883)

Story 3 (http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5gxPAnhKHWuJQfbt34x9Z5iT5BrAQ)

[Seashell]

The carribean also has strict immigration laws and someone somewhere in one of their Embassies will be alert and am 100% sure recognise her name, she wont be able to live a normal life, she has caused too much hurt and anger amongst the victims familes.
It all will catch up on her, life has a strange way of making people pay for the harm they do in their lives.

This evil woman comes from french speaking Canada?
St.lucia is a french speaking community, Martinique as well.

[deputydi]

Poor Karla or Leanne or whatever she chooses to call herself next. :chicken: Her true identity and her gruesome past will follow her regardless of where she lives. She gets no sympathy from me and deserves to be haunted and hunted whereever she goes.

[Seashell]

oh dont you worry, the canadian authorities would have sent a warning to the carribean authorities, at least thats how it usually works in this world nowadays, plus dont forget that the internet nowadays also helps to let the world know.

[Playadelmar]

Karla or Leanne, anyways that thing, had this baby with a guy named Bordeleau. That was her lawyer's name in Montreal. Her lawyer was a black woman who spoke french. My guess is she now lives in Haiti. Pretty easy life for a peadophile, a child murderer, a rapist , a purse stealer. I am totally disgusted with the canadian judicial system. It makes me puke.

[Tempus Fugit]

The carribean also has strict immigration laws and someone somewhere in one of their Embassies will be alert and am 100% sure recognise her name, she wont be able to live a normal life, she has caused too much hurt and anger amongst the victims familes.
It all will catch up on her, life has a strange way of making people pay for the harm they do in their lives.

This evil woman comes from french speaking Canada?
St.lucia is a french speaking community, Martinique as well.

Actually, Karla was born in St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada. She lived in Montreal after her release from prison.

[Lili007]

Actually, Karla was born in St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada. She lived in Montreal after her release from prison.

Well, wherever she was born she made a horrible mess of it and wasn't content until she killed.

Tempus fugit? It certainly does, especially with killers to help it along. :)

JMO

[Crystal_Ann]

I thought people with criminal records where not allowed to get passports. I hope the Carribean immigration sends the psycho right back to Canada. She doesn't deserve to be able to run from her past.


Her poor kid, not only is his mother a child rapist/killer but his father is an idiot. Hopefully he doesn't grow up to be anything like either of them.

[Family Snapshot]

In spite of my usual tendency to support near-anarchy and my desire to keep the government out of our personal freedoms this is one of the few things that causes me to go to the other side: waa-aaaay, waaaaa-aaaay over. Karla/Leanne and every other predator that is released back into society should have an RFID chip implanted. The requirement that sex offenders register in their town of residence, for example, is essentially based on the honor system. I don't think I need to elaborate on the oxy-moronic theory behind that. I say tag them, just like the animals they are. As for Karla's rights. . .it's hard to comprehend why even let her live to begin with. She gave up any rights she had when she gave up her humanity.

[baked_tater]

Wow, this explains a lot, her marriage and such. I am thinking she thinks her baby will be safest in the carribean.

I hope she is driven MAD thinking of her OWN child in the clutches of a couple of barbie doll killers.

[Mammamia]

Karla or Leanne, anyways that thing, had this baby with a guy named Bordeleau. That was her lawyer's name in Montreal. Her lawyer was a black woman who spoke french. My guess is she now lives in Haiti. Pretty easy life for a peadophile, a child murderer, a rapist , a purse stealer. I am totally disgusted with the canadian judicial system. It makes me puke.

His name Thierry Bordelais.

[Playadelmar]

Mamamia you're right, my mistake, his name is Bordelais and her lawyer's name was Sylvie Bordelais. They met through that lawyer. Brother ? cousin ? Anyways, I'm still convinced she's in Haiti.

[crimeshooter]

The requirement that sex offenders register in their town of residence, for example, is essentially based on the honor system. Family Snapshot, you are right, and I see no "honor" in the case of Karla Homolka. :no: IMO, she should have remained incarcerated for life.

[LuAnna99]

Ahh the old I killed somebody but I'm a woman so let me slide routine. God forbid one of us should really have to defend our selves in such a way from a predator. Women like this Make it hard for everyone. tsk tsk:no:

[Lili007]

Ahh the old I killed somebody but I'm a woman so let me slide routine. God forbid one of us should really have to defend our selves in such a way from a predator. Women like this Make it hard for everyone. tsk tsk:no:

Siberia's a good place. I don't know why Karla was allowed to live at all, after what she did. And I say that even though I disagree with the death penalty on principle.

JMO

[SaraSidle]

Siberia's a good place. I don't know why Karla was allowed to live at all, after what she did. And I say that even though I disagree with the death penalty on principle.

JMO


And her own sister at that.... makes me sick..........IMO

[Lili007]

And her own sister at that.... makes me sick..........IMO

I know, Sara - me too. I just cannot understand people behaving like beasts, and then seeking some sort of forgivness just so they can sleep at night. Ridiculous.

JMO

[SaraSidle]

She got off way to easy in my opinion. I know Canada was trying to do the right thing but please..........

[Canadian Bum]

Bump

[Seashell]

It is soooooooo maddening that this evil monster KARLA is a free woman :mad: SHE HELPED HER HUSBAND RAPE AND MURDER HER UNCONSCIOUS LITTLE SISTER!!!!!!!!!!

[SaraSidle]

It is soooooooo maddening that this evil monster KARLA is a free woman :mad: SHE HELPED HER HUSBAND RAPE AND MURDER HER UNCONSCIOUS LITTLE SISTER!!!!!!!!!!

With a family living in the Bahamas no less. I totally agree Seashell. Nice to see you posting..........IMO

[rasmur]

I hope she doesn't get off Scott free from recognition and become popular. At least, I hope she's too tired, fighting off mosquitoes and changing diapers, to be throwing any lavish parties.

[SaraSidle]

I hope she doesn't get off Scott free from recognition and become popular. At least, I hope she's too tired, fighting off mosquitoes and changing diapers, to be throwing any lavish parties.

I totally agree rasmur. WELCOME TO THE BOARD

[Notknowingall]

I remember when this whole story unfolded years ago. I believe that Karla was potentially more involved in the planning of the rapes and murders more than Paul. Her sister's death was more than likely an accident in the sense that Karla did not know what she was doing with the drug. After that I think it was either her idea or something they both agreed on jointly. I don't buy the "battered woman" thing in this case at all.

[SaraSidle]

I remember when this whole story unfolded years ago. I believe that Karla was potentially more involved in the planning of the rapes and murders more than Paul. Her sister's death was more than likely an accident in the sense that Karla did not know what she was doing with the drug. After that I think it was either her idea or something they both agreed on jointly. I don't buy the "battered woman" thing in this case at all.

ITA. This is the case that makes me hate deals and plea bargaining. IMO

[zed]

I remember when this whole story unfolded years ago. I believe that Karla was potentially more involved in the planning of the rapes and murders more than Paul. Her sister's death was more than likely an accident in the sense that Karla did not know what she was doing with the drug. After that I think it was either her idea or something they both agreed on jointly. I don't buy the "battered woman" thing in this case at all.

Paul was the Scarborough rapist before he became involved with Karla, so it's likely that the idea to rape and eventually murder came from him. He wanted Karla's little sister and Karla, not wanting to lose Paul, arranged to give her sister's virginity to Paul for Christmas. When Karla's sister died she had chemical burn marks on her face, but that was not investigated at the time.

Karla's lesbian love taught her to speak French in prison.

Karla was involved in the rapes and murders of all their victims, but once the plea deal was agreed to, the police did not insist that Karla keep up her end of the deal. There was a teenager on the tapes that was raped and Karla was involved. She had agreed to full disclosure in exchange for a light sentence, but she kept that rape quiet.

[rasmur]

I see Karla is Serial Killer of the Month. I think it's good to take some time and remember Karla, if for no other reason than that she doesn't like it.

[rasmur]

I'm visually impaired, and I was wondering if someone could answer a question for me. I've heard people comment that Karla looks different now than she did before she went to prison. Can someone describe for me what she looks like in her most recent photos, as compared with, say, her wedding pictures? Thanks.

[rosejustrose]

I'm visually impaired, and I was wondering if someone could answer a question for me. I've heard people comment that Karla looks different now than she did before she went to prison. Can someone describe for me what she looks like in her most recent photos, as compared with, say, her wedding pictures? Thanks.

She's actually a very attractive blonde. She was always a pretty girl and age hasn't hurt her at all. JMO.

[rasmur]

Thanks for the reply. I'm trying not to talk about Karla. It's a bad habit.

[grneyes]

My dh told me about the Bernardo's as he is Canadian and I'd never heard of them before. Then he bought me a couple books about them. Then the next thing you know, I'm hooked on true crime stories. So I totally blame my addiction on dh. :D

[SaraSidle]

My dh told me about the Bernardo's as he is Canadian and I'd never heard of them before. Then he bought me a couple books about them. Then the next thing you know, I'm hooked on true crime stories. So I totally blame my addiction on dh. :D



LOL I blame my mom. She introduced me to mysteries when I was very young. We sure have a lot of true life mysteries going on. I find the Karla/Paul story pretty darn sick. I can still not accept she did that to her sister. IMO

[Karin]

LOL I blame my mom. She introduced me to mysteries when I was very young. We sure have a lot of true life mysteries going on. I find the Karla/Paul story pretty darn sick. I can still not accept she did that to her sister. IMO

Hi Sarasidle,

I blame James Patterson for all of his Alex Cross and Womens Murder Club books..........Reading can take you to places you never thought you would go.....Ha!

[SaraSidle]

Hi Sarasidle,

I blame James Patterson for all of his Alex Cross and Womens Murder Club books..........Reading can take you to places you never thought you would go.....Ha!

Me too Karin. Me too. I love Patterson

[grneyes]

Hi Sarasidle,

I blame James Patterson for all of his Alex Cross and Womens Murder Club books..........Reading can take you to places you never thought you would go.....Ha!

I discovered Patterson after I was already hooked but I do enjoy his books.

Did anyone see the Karla movie? What was your take on it? I found some of it obviously enhanced for the veiwing audience but there were some parts that really bothered me because they were so similar to what I had read about the crimes and just the thought of them being so cruel and uncaring to their victims.

[SaraSidle]

I discovered Patterson after I was already hooked but I do enjoy his books.

Did anyone see the Karla movie? What was your take on it? I found some of it obviously enhanced for the veiwing audience but there were some parts that really bothered me because they were so similar to what I had read about the crimes and just the thought of them being so cruel and uncaring to their victims.


I did not see the movie but I read the book!

[RogerV]

If I remember correctly there was a news blackout in Canada about the details of this case, not so much to ensure fair trials, but to spare relatives of the victims. I THINK some of them were pubished in the US, and that at least once someone in the States stood just south of the border and read the articles with a bullhorn so people on the other side could hear them.

It also seems to me that the infamous tapes were eventually used during the trials, but the monitor was set up in such a way that only the jury, attorneys, and judge could see it.

[SaraSidle]

If I remember correctly there was a news blackout in Canada about the details of this case, not so much to ensure fair trials, but to spare relatives of the victims. I THINK some of them were pubished in the US, and that at least once someone in the States stood just south of the border and read the articles with a bullhorn so people on the other side could hear them.

It also seems to me that the infamous tapes were eventually used during the trials, but the monitor was set up in such a way that only the jury, attorneys, and judge could see it.

I believe you are correct on both counts Roger. IMO

[grneyes]

They destroyed the tapes after the trials and since none have resurfaced I'm assuming either all were destroyed or maybe some haven't even been found.

Even around here where I'm at (which is a few hours from where the girls were killed) most people won't even discuss this case except to say that Karla should never have been released. They are still very angry about that.

When we got the movie we bought it from the US because they wouldn't allow it around here for the longest time. It only recently (within the past 3 months) became available in a local video rental place.

In a way I understand why the "powers that be", and especially the families, want this case kept to minimum publicity but, it also makes me wonder if there is more information the "powers that be" have or had, that the public doesn't know about... :shrug:


jmo of course

[SaraSidle]

They destroyed the tapes after the trials and since none have resurfaced I'm assuming either all were destroyed or maybe some haven't even been found.

Even around here where I'm at (which is a few hours from where the girls were killed) most people won't even discuss this case except to say that Karla should never have been released. They are still very angry about that.

When we got the movie we bought it from the US because they wouldn't allow it around here for the longest time. It only recently (within the past 3 months) became available in a local video rental place.

In a way I understand why the "powers that be", and especially the families, want this case kept to minimum publicity but, it also makes me wonder if there is more information the "powers that be" have or had, that the public doesn't know about... :shrug:


jmo of course


I remember in the beginning how hush hush Canada was but you know I actually thought it was worse than it really was. And I was surprised to see a book about it for sale here. It is hard for me to understand they destroyed the tapes but I am sure they had their reasons. I agree that Karla should not have been released but that is in the past. IMO

grneyes do you remember the mother who killed her 13 yr old daughter in Canada and they found the girl's body by the water?

[grneyes]

Sarah is that the one where the mom claimed her and the girl got in an argument and the girl got out of the car and mom supposedly drove off? Or am I thinking of a different one?

[SaraSidle]

Sarah is that the one where the mom claimed her and the girl got in an argument and the girl got out of the car and mom supposedly drove off? Or am I thinking of a different one?

I thought they got into an argument in a car at a store parking lot and Mom went into the store (she says) and when she came out her daughter (had supposedly) left the car.So they searched for her and found her and then later arrested Mom I think this is right?IMO

[grneyes]

I thought they got into an argument in a car at a store parking lot and Mom went into the store (she says) and when she came out her daughter (had supposedly) left the car.So they searched for her and found her and then later arrested Mom I think this is right?IMO

That's the one!

[RogerV]

In a way I understand why the "powers that be", and especially the families, want this case kept to minimum publicity but, it also makes me wonder if there is more information the "powers that be" have or had, that the public doesn't know about... :shrug:


jmo of course

The memories are kind of murky, but it seems what I saw in the media here in the States was gruesome, but not any worse than what was already known about a dozen or more other serial killers.

What DID strike me was evidence of a badly-mismanaged investigation, the details of which "powers that be" might not have wanted made public. That of course is only speculation on my part...

[SaraSidle]

That's the one!

Did they give a COD at all grneyes? It seems as soon as mom was arrested all info on the case dropped. I was just curious. IMO

[grneyes]

Did they give a COD at all grneyes? It seems as soon as mom was arrested all info on the case dropped. I was just curious. IMO

That was the last I heard also. I did a google search and none of the articles I found list the COD.

Here's one of the articles.
http://www.nationalpost.com/related/links/story.html?id=590237

This one has a pic of the mom.
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=592226

[One2Snoop]

Bump

[SaraSidle]

That was the last I heard also. I did a google search and none of the articles I found list the COD.

Here's one of the articles.
http://www.nationalpost.com/related/links/story.html?id=590237

This one has a pic of the mom.
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=592226

THanks grneyes. I just thought the whole thing was strange. I never suspected Mom till the arrest. IMO

[SaraSidle]

THanks grneyes. I just thought the whole thing was strange. I never suspected Mom till the arrest. IMO

bump

[grneyes]

Your welcome Sara. :beer:

[SaraSidle]

The memories are kind of murky, but it seems what I saw in the media here in the States was gruesome, but not any worse than what was already known about a dozen or more other serial killers.

What DID strike me was evidence of a badly-mismanaged investigation, the details of which "powers that be" might not have wanted made public. That of course is only speculation on my part...

Roger why do you think it was badly-mismanaged? the only problem I saw was the immunity for Karla. IMO

[RogerV]

Roger why do you think it was badly-mismanaged? the only problem I saw was the immunity for Karla. IMO

I would have to go back and re-read the specifics of the story, but off the top of my head the three biggest blunders were:

1) Different law enforcement jurisdictions not sharing information.

2) Failure to properly investigate the death of Karla's sister at the time of her death.

3) A delay of something like a year or more in testing Paul's DNA.

[SaraSidle]

I would have to go back and re-read the specifics of the story, but off the top of my head the three biggest blunders were:

1) Different law enforcement jurisdictions not sharing information.

2) Failure to properly investigate the death of Karla's sister at the time of her death.

3) A delay of something like a year or more in testing Paul's DNA.

I must have not paid attention to that. I wonder why it takes so long to test some DNAs?

[RogerV]

I must have not paid attention to that. I wonder why it takes so long to test some DNAs?

I just ran across something that indicated it was closer to TWO years before his DNA was processed.

As I mentioned before, when I first learned the facts of the case I wondered whether the effort to keep the lid on some details was in fact a desire of certain authorities to keep their own blunders out of the news.

[SaraSidle]

I just ran across something that indicated it was closer to TWO years before his DNA was processed.

As I mentioned before, when I first learned the facts of the case I wondered whether the effort to keep the lid on some details was in fact a desire of certain authorities to keep their own blunders out of the news.

I do not know but I think that is happening a lot more in the U.S. too IMO

[Ice]

Since this case is over and done with and it angers me to no end, I try not to follow what she is doing with her life. I kind of take comfort in believing hell has a special place for her.

I am curious about her husband though. Does anyone have a link to a picture for this loser? I googled up his name and got zip. Is he black? Is he good looking? Is he old? Short? Fat? Tall? Skinny? Nothing but me being nosey.

[grneyes]

Bernardo
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/02/21/bernardo-confess060221.html

[Ice]

Bernardo
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/02/21/bernardo-confess060221.html


Hey grneyes! Is that link for me? The article is kind of old, but there is a picture, so I thought maybe it was for me.

I'm not talking about "Ken", it's this Thierry Bordelais who married Leanne (or whatever that tramp is calling herself these days) that I'd like to get a look at.

I have googled until my fingers ache and I get nothing.

Thank you though. You are a sweetheart.

[grneyes]

Hey grneyes! Is that link for me? The article is kind of old, but there is a picture, so I thought maybe it was for me.

I'm not talking about "Ken", it's this Thierry Bordelais who married Leanne (or whatever that tramp is calling herself these days) that I'd like to get a look at.

I have googled until my fingers ache and I get nothing.

Thank you though. You are a sweetheart.

Oh, sorry. I thought you wanted to know what Paul looked like. I can't find much on Thierry but if I was dumb enough to marry her I wouldn't want people knowing what I look like either. *lol*

[SaraSidle]

Excellent point as usual grneyes!

[grneyes]

Excellent point as usual grneyes!

Thanks Sara! :-)

[Ice]

Oh, sorry. I thought you wanted to know what Paul looked like. I can't find much on Thierry but if I was dumb enough to marry her I wouldn't want people knowing what I look like either. *lol*

Hahaha. Ain't that the truth!!?

[soccermom]

Since this case is over and done with and it angers me to no end, I try not to follow what she is doing with her life. I kind of take comfort in believing hell has a special place for her.

I am curious about her husband though. Does anyone have a link to a picture for this loser? I googled up his name and got zip. Is he black? Is he good looking? Is he old? Short? Fat? Tall? Skinny? Nothing but me being nosey.

Ice:
LOL GMTA because i was curious about that too and searched and found nothing---so i can relate why you are curious---would be nice to see what he looks like.

If you do find a pic let me know and i will do the same

[Ice]

Ice:
LOL GMTA because i was curious about that too and searched and found nothing---so i can relate why you are curious---would be nice to see what he looks like.

If you do find a pic let me know and i will do the same


I'm on the hunt, baby! I'll keep you posted!

[soccermom]

I'm on the hunt, baby! I'll keep you posted!

Thank you :)

[grneyes]

I've searched and searched and can't find a pic of him.

[soccermom]

I've searched and searched and can't find a pic of him.


Thanks for trying grneyes :)

[Seashell]

Hey grneyes! Is that link for me? The article is kind of old, but there is a picture, so I thought maybe it was for me.

I'm not talking about "Ken", it's this Thierry Bordelais who married Leanne (or whatever that tramp is calling herself these days) that I'd like to get a look at.

I have googled until my fingers ache and I get nothing.

Thank you though. You are a sweetheart.

He's Thierry Bordelais originally from that region.

am going to search for his mug.. BBL ;)

[Seashell]

Karla Homolka helped drug and raped her little sister Tammy, she now is married a 2nd time to a man who says that she has paid for it doing her time in jai, tell me Thierry Bordelais when you look at her and look at your little son dont you worry what might be going through her filthy head?
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/e/ed/200px-KarlaHomolka_1993.jpg
She took pleasure in hurting and helping her ex husband, once a monster always a monster, remember this Thierry Bordelais.

The updated face of evil:
http://media.canada.com/01b8b2a8-f449-4746-8e42-e3e213ae7ba8/20071215_homolka.jpg

http://www.ottawasun.com/News/National/2005/12/01/edmnew.jpg

[Seashell]

Ex lovers statement:
Veronneau, who was serving time for robbery, recounts that Homolka enjoyed sex games and liked to be tied up. One game in particular seemed to simulate rape, she said.


http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20051113/homolka_book_051113/20051114?hub=TopStories
Once a monster always a monster.

[grneyes]

I know Veronneau is the jilted lover and likely to say anything but I think it's interesting that even she says she doesn't believe Karla was a victim.

[SaraSidle]

I know Veronneau is the jilted lover and likely to say anything but I think it's interesting that even she says she doesn't believe Karla was a victim.

Even better. a manipulator

[Canadian Bum]

Since this case is over and done with and it angers me to no end, I try not to follow what she is doing with her life. I kind of take comfort in believing hell has a special place for her.

I am curious about her husband though. Does anyone have a link to a picture for this loser? I googled up his name and got zip. Is he black? Is he good looking? Is he old? Short? Fat? Tall? Skinny? Nothing but me being nosey. Hi Ice :seeya: I have a pic of Thierry but It's on my old computer :(. It was from a french speaking newspaper. He is black, average looking. If I remember correctly he was wearing a ski jacket in the pic. I believe there is a blood connection between Thierry and Karlas Lawyer. They have since moved to Thierrys family in the french speaking Antilles. Although a ring is on Karlas hand, at this point in time there are no records of a marriage in either country. I will look for his pic... keeping in mind my french skills suck. :)

[RogerV]

All I was able to find is this article:

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/180311

Karla's lawyer denies introducing Karla to her current partner/husband. Of course, lawyers ALWAYS tell the truth, don't they?? :rolleyes:

[SaraSidle]

Hi Ice :seeya: I have a pic of Thierry but It's on my old computer :(. It was from a french speaking newspaper. He is black, average looking. If I remember correctly he was wearing a ski jacket in the pic. I believe there is a blood connection between Thierry and Karlas Lawyer. They have since moved to Thierrys family in the french speaking Antilles. Although a ring is on Karlas hand, at this point in time there are no records of a marriage in either country. I will look for his pic... keeping in mind my french skills suck. :)

I spent a lot of time Sunday searching and searching. I could not find a thing. I am sorry. Lot of articles tons and tons but no pix. IMO

[susie31023]

Ex lovers statement:
Veronneau, who was serving time for robbery, recounts that Homolka enjoyed sex games and liked to be tied up. One game in particular seemed to simulate rape, she said.


http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20051113/homolka_book_051113/20051114?hub=TopStories
Once a monster always a monster.

Seashell, I agree once a monster always a monster. What really gets me is both she and Paul should be 6 feet under by now. She was not a victim in any of their doings and it really makes me sick that she was portrayed as one:flamemad:. I hope there is a special place in Hell for both of them. As for her new guy. Thierry you would be wise to never let this woman be alone with your child. JMO

[Ice]

Okay. Posting pictures is not my strong point!

Jean-Paul with the girl he strangled.

http://thumbnail.search.aolcdn.com/vsthumb2/tn/27/8F/278FF40E788C3B781B1D8B.jpg

[Ice]

Okay. Posting pictures is not my strong point!

Jean-Paul with the girl he strangled.

http://thumbnail.search.aolcdn.com/vsthumb2/tn/27/8F/278FF40E788C3B781B1D8B.jpg


Oops. I deleted a post, so now this one makes no sense. I found some pictures of Jean-Paul Gerbet, Karla's prison 'boyfriend'. They swapped letters while they were both in prison. He strangled his girlfriend. since we were on the subject of her love life.

Can someone tell me how to post pictures? I uploaded them to photobucket, but I'm not sure which link to use to post them here in a message.

[soccermom]

Ice: The picture turned out :o)

[Canadian Bum]

I haven't forgotten :) still looking for the pic of Thierry B :read:

[soccermom]

I haven't forgotten :) still looking for the pic of Thierry B :read:


Thank you Canadian Bum :rose:

[Jules100]

I'm surprised at how easy she seems to have had it since she was released- she has been able to live a relatively easy life and does not seem to have too many problems considering that she was not given a new identity - what do you think ???

[grneyes]

I'm surprised at how easy she seems to have had it since she was released- she has been able to live a relatively easy life and does not seem to have too many problems considering that she was not given a new identity - what do you think ???

I have a feeling that would change if she were here in Ontario where the crimes took place.

[SaraSidle]

I have a feeling that would change if she were here in Ontario where the crimes took place.

Even if she dyed her hair............IMO

[Jules100]

I am interested to know what you all think of the Author Williams who has written about this case and Karla ( i have that book) i heard once that he got in some sort of trouble to do with the video tapes- i'm not sure if this is right or not so if anyone can let me know exactly what happened that would be great

[Fish Face Frank]

Our only hope is that the media finds out her location and makes her life as much hell as they did in Canada. I cannot believe she was approved to leave the country.

[Jules100]

I always thought that if you had commited a crime like this that you would never be able to leave the country - so the 'authorities' could keep an eye on you, i too was surprised that she was allowed to leave. I feel so sorry for her child. Who knows, she might be a great mum, but one day her son is going to find out what his mother did to his aunt and the other girls

[Notknowingall]

I always thought that if you had commited a crime like this that you would never be able to leave the country - so the 'authorities' could keep an eye on you, i too was surprised that she was allowed to leave. I feel so sorry for her child. Who knows, she might be a great mum, but one day her son is going to find out what his mother did to his aunt and the other girls

Apparently there were no restrictions placed on her after her release. No house arrest or half way house. IIRC she had a short period of "parole" which has expired.

[RogerV]

Apparently there were no restrictions placed on her after her release. No house arrest or half way house. IIRC she had a short period of "parole" which has expired.

She served her full sentence. There is no legal way for her to be detained at this point. In the time SINCE her crimes, laws have been passed in several jurisdictions that allow for "potential re-offenders" to be detained beyond their sentences, but they're not retroactive.

In a democracy which observes the rule of law, mistakes of the prosecution cannot be corrected after the fact.

[grneyes]

I always thought that if you had commited a crime like this that you would never be able to leave the country - so the 'authorities' could keep an eye on you, i too was surprised that she was allowed to leave. I feel so sorry for her child. Who knows, she might be a great mum, but one day her son is going to find out what his mother did to his aunt and the other girls

It may be that it is up to the "accepting" country as to whether or not she can enter as opposed to Canada allowing her to leave. (When you think about it, why would Canada want to keep her here?)

[Jules100]

Good point, you are probably right, Canada was probably more than happy to get shut of her

[soccermom]

I have to wonder how she got accepted to enter that country

Meaning when I applied for immigration i couldnt have a crimminal record---she has one so how the heck did she get in??

Married or not -----if you have a crimminal record you cant live/work/and I believe you cant visit, they can deny entry.

[grneyes]

I have to wonder how she got accepted to enter that country

Meaning when I applied for immigration i couldnt have a crimminal record---she has one so how the heck did she get in??

Married or not -----if you have a crimminal record you cant live/work/and I believe you cant visit, they can deny entry.

I don't understand why they let her in either but I know some countries will do that because they think they (the criminal) deserve a second chance. IMO Karla deserves the same chance she gave those girls. :cuss:

[Fish Face Frank]

I am quite curious as to what kind of a mother she is to her baby.

[Jules100]

I am quite curious as to what kind of a mother she is to her baby.

Me too , she could be an excellent mother for all we know but i always wonder what is going to happen when he finds out what his mother did when she was younger

[cami]

She got off way to easy in my opinion. I know Canada was trying to do the right thing but please..........

Wait a minute here. Karla served her sentence, she completed it, therefore she goes free. She was not charged with sex crimes, that's what you have to understand. Had she been charged with any sort of sex crime, the Crown would have moved to declare her a DO like Paul and then she would never be free. So stop blaming Canada's justice system. She received a plea bargain to testify against Paul..at the time they had nothing to link him to the murders of Leslie and Kristen.

Look up some of your own females who helped their husbands rape and murder teenagers, in particular Charlene Gallegos.. What did she get? Sixteen years and then was released once she served them and she helped her husband rape, torture and murder 10 girls.

Yes she's despicable and yes we all hate her and yes she killed her own sister for pity's sake..but none of that was known until long after she was in jail serving her sentence.

As well, it's incumbent on Ottawa to advise any foreign country about Karla's crimes if she choses to leave. Since it's now 2008 and she hasn't reoffended I think we're safe.

[cami]

Good point, you are probably right, Canada was probably more than happy to get shut of her

LOL, we'll trade her for Rosemary West. Have you gotten rid of her? Why would we be glad to get shut of her? She's living a quiet, private life in Montreal somewhere. No one knows her, no one ever hears of her. The press have left her alone. Probably only a few of her neighbours are aware of who she is. She hasn't reoffended. She's paid her debt to society.

I'm not trying to defend her because what she did was evil incarnate and she should have been thrown in a dungeon somewhere and never seen the light of day again.

Of course sharing a post on a message board doesn't do a thing to upset Karla but it helps us vent our feelings about what she did.

[grneyes]

Wait a minute here. Karla served her sentence, she completed it, therefore she goes free. She was not charged with sex crimes, that's what you have to understand. Had she been charged with any sort of sex crime, the Crown would have moved to declare her a DO like Paul and then she would never be free. So stop blaming Canada's justice system. She received a plea bargain to testify against Paul..at the time they had nothing to link him to the murders of Leslie and Kristen.

Look up some of your own females who helped their husbands rape and murder teenagers, in particular Charlene Gallegos.. What did she get? Sixteen years and then was released once she served them and she helped her husband rape, torture and murder 10 girls.

Yes she's despicable and yes we all hate her and yes she killed her own sister for pity's sake..but none of that was known until long after she was in jail serving her sentence.

As well, it's incumbent on Ottawa to advise any foreign country about Karla's crimes if she choses to leave. Since it's now 2008 and she hasn't reoffended I think we're safe.

Karla's deal was that she was to tell the truth which she did not do and the Crown had every right to overturn the deal and they didn't. Once the tapes came out proving she had more involvement than she claimed, they could have slapped new charges on her, they could have charged with with purgery and threw out the first sentence. There is a lot they could have done. Not saying the US system is perfect either but the Crown dropped the ball on this one and they know it.

[cami]

Our only hope is that the media finds out her location and makes her life as much hell as they did in Canada. I cannot believe she was approved to leave the country.

LOL, Canada is a democracy....we're not a communist country. Our citizens are free to leave the country should they choose.

[grneyes]

Karla isn't in Montreal and hasn't been for awhile now.

Also, we don't know she hasn't re-offended. Just that she hasn't been caught if she has.

[Fish Face Frank]

LOL, Canada is a democracy....we're not a communist country. Our citizens are free to leave the country should they choose.

Yep. Even serial killers. Unfortunately. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[rasmur]

I've always been amazed by the vengefulness exhibited on this forum. I don't see how people could want anyone's life to be hel. I hope she has paid dearly for her crimes, but I don't wish for her destruction or want her life to be hell, not because she doesn't deserve it, but because she is a human being, a sentient being capable of suffering. That she made others suffer seems irrelevant to me.

[Fish Face Frank]

I've always been amazed by the vengefulness exhibited on this forum. I don't see how people could want anyone's life to be hel. I hope she has paid dearly for her crimes, but I don't wish for her destruction or want her life to be hell, not because she doesn't deserve it, but because she is a human being, a sentient being capable of suffering. That she made others suffer seems irrelevant to me.

Apparently she did not participate in the murder of your loved one and basically had gotten away with it. This woman has shown "ZERO" remorse in regard to anything she has done. No apologies to the victim's families. NOTHING!!!! Even Jeffrey Dahmer felt guilt, showed remorse, and apologized for his actions.

There should never be a chance for anyone on the outside to harm her for she should be in jail for the rest of her life such as her equally demented partner in crime Pauly boy.

No I do not want to see her murdered or hurt physically, but if the press were to find her and make her life miserable by following her and hounding her, well I think that is a small price to pay for the raping and murdering of at least 3 beautiful girls who will never get to enjoy the same rights as one of the offenders in their murders.

[grneyes]

Apparently she did not participate in the murder of your loved one and basically had gotten away with it. This woman has shown "ZERO" remorse in regard to anything she has done. No apologies to the victim's families. NOTHING!!!! Even Jeffrey Dahmer felt guilt, showed remorse, and apologized for his actions.

There should never be a chance for anyone on the outside to harm her for she should be in jail for the rest of her life such as her equally demented partner in crime Pauly boy.

No I do not want to see her murdered or hurt physically, but if the press were to find her and make her life miserable by following her and hounding her, well I think that is a small price to pay for the raping and murdering of at least 3 beautiful girls who will never get to enjoy the same rights as one of the offenders in their murders.

Very well stated Frank and I feel the exact same way!

[SaraSidle]

LOL, Canada is a democracy....we're not a communist country. Our citizens are free to leave the country should they choose.

So are ours. To bad the justice system in both countries can make too many deals so killers make it out of the counntry and maybe to the Bahamas.

I cannot even afford a vacation there and a murderess is living there. Hmmmmmmmm IMo

[rasmur]

Apparently she did not participate in the murder of your loved one and basically had gotten away with it. This woman has shown "ZERO" remorse in regard to anything she has done. No apologies to the victim's families. NOTHING!!!! Even Jeffrey Dahmer felt guilt, showed remorse, and apologized for his actions.

There should never be a chance for anyone on the outside to harm her for she should be in jail for the rest of her life such as her equally demented partner in crime Pauly boy.

No I do not want to see her murdered or hurt physically, but if the press were to find her and make her life miserable by following her and hounding her, well I think that is a small price to pay for the raping and murdering of at least 3 beautiful girls who will never get to enjoy the same rights as one of the offenders in their murders.
First of all, while it's true that I've never had one of my loved-ones murdered, I don't consider spending twelve years in prison getting away with murder. It's a substantial chunk of time, IMO, and while I think she should have served twenty, I'm okay with it. At least it's better than four years or eight years, which would have been totally unacceptable to me. I find it impossible to imagine how a completely remorseless person could waive her right to appeal her parole denial as she did. Also, she expressed some remorse in her post-prison interview, saying she cried often and sometimes felt she didn't have the right to be happy. On the other hand, she insisted on doing her interview en Francais and never mentioned Leslie Mahaffy or Kristen French (whom she had the gaul to call by her first name and say they were friends). To my knowledge, she has never deigned to apologize to the French or Mahaffy families, if that is even realistic or possible. Such a thing is between her and them, although it may be, on the face of it, an indication of remorse or the lack of it. I don't know how one would apologize to someone for murdering their loved-one, or if such a crime is beyond apology or forgiveness. Still, from the point of view of an outside observer, she seems to show precious little remorse for her crimes. I'm glad she doesn't court the media like O.J., but she should apologize for her part in the rape, torture, and murder of Leslie Mahaffy, Kristen French, and Tammy Homolka.

[susie31023]

I've always been amazed by the vengefulness exhibited on this forum. I don't see how people could want anyone's life to be hel. I hope she has paid dearly for her crimes, but I don't wish for her destruction or want her life to be hell, not because she doesn't deserve it, but because she is a human being, a sentient being capable of suffering. That she made others suffer seems irrelevant to me.

I read this post and the bolded part just made me very sad for you. How can you say that the fact that she made others suffer means nothing to you? It is very relevant in how we perceive her. Not only did she participate and even obtain victims she helped murder her own sister. I don't believe for one moment she was brainwashed. She was a willing participant and should not ever have seen the light of day.

You say you are surprised by the vengefulness on this forum, well all I can say is someone has to speak for the victims of lowlifes like this. I see people like her and see that she managed to play the system. Her victims will never know the joy of being married, of having a child, of being a productive citizen. No instead they lie in a grave because she chose to kill them. Their families have to go to a cemetery, to put flowers on their loved ones resting place. You say that twelve years is ok by you, what about her victims families their pain didn't stop in twelve years. They are forever changed due to her actions.

She made her choices and now I hope they haunt her for the rest of her life. Is that vengeful? Yes it is and I will continue to want justice done in cases like this. I feel absolutely no sympathy for her or others like her. ~Susie

[SaraSidle]

I've always been amazed by the vengefulness exhibited on this forum. I don't see how people could want anyone's life to be hel. I hope she has paid dearly for her crimes, but I don't wish for her destruction or want her life to be hell, not because she doesn't deserve it, but because she is a human being, a sentient being capable of suffering. That she made others suffer seems irrelevant to me.

I feel that your posts are so negative and ignorant that maybe you are a baiter. She helped kill her own sister and assisted with incredible vile acts towars others. Rasmur I am putting you on ignore cause I think you are just trying to incite. I hope the other posters follow my example for their sake. IMO

[susie31023]

I feel that your posts are so negative and ignorant that maybe you are a baiter. She helped kill her own sister and assisted with incredible vile acts towars others. Rasmur I am putting you on ignore cause I think you are just trying to incite. I hope the other posters follow my example for their sake. IMO

I agree Sara. He/she will be put on ignore.....Where do they all come from?

[Fish Face Frank]

First of all, while it's true that I've never had one of my loved-ones murdered, I don't consider spending twelve years in prison getting away with murder.

Following the same example I used before, let someone murder your daughter or son ( God forbid, this is merely used as a hypothetical), get caught lying on the stand about their involvement, and the judge sentences them for the huge chunk of time which is 12 years.

I guarantee you would be singing a different tune.

[SaraSidle]

I agree Sara. He/she will be put on ignore.....Where do they all come from?

susie I think they are bored angry and lonely people and the only way they know how to communicate is to incite. I take these boards too seriously for that and I certainly have seen you in action. IMO

[rasmur]

I read this post and the bolded part just made me very sad for you. How can you say that the fact that she made others suffer means nothing to you? It is very relevant in how we perceive her. Not only did she participate and even obtain victims she helped murder her own sister. I don't believe for one moment she was brainwashed. She was a willing participant and should not ever have seen the light of day.

You say you are surprised by the vengefulness on this forum, well all I can say is someone has to speak for the victims of lowlifes like this. I see people like her and see that she managed to play the system. Her victims will never know the joy of being married, of having a child, of being a productive citizen. No instead they lie in a grave because she chose to kill them. Their families have to go to a cemetery, to put flowers on their loved ones resting place. You say that twelve years is ok by you, what about her victims families their pain didn't stop in twelve years. They are forever changed due to her actions.

She made her choices and now I hope they haunt her for the rest of her life. Is that vengeful? Yes it is and I will continue to want justice done in cases like this. I feel absolutely no sympathy for her or others like her. ~Susie

I didn't say the fact that she made others suffer means nothing to me. What I said was the fact that she made others suffer is irrelevant (or mostly irrelevant) to the moral question of whether and how much we should make her suffer. If she had been imprisoned for life, that would not have brought any of her victims back to life, and I suspect it would have done little to ease the pain of their families. All it would have done is to make her suffer, too. No, I don't think people should be allowed to get away with murder. I do believe in retribution, but I think it's over-rated. If an offender is not dangerous, as Karla and the Manson girls apparently are not, what's the point of chopping off their heads or keeping them in prison for life. What I am saying is that it is just wrong to make someone like Karla suffer. Justifying it by saying that she made others suffer is a moral non sequitur.

[Fish Face Frank]

I do believe in retribution, but I think it's over-rated. If an offender is not dangerous, as Karla and the Manson girls apparently are not, what's the point of chopping off their heads or keeping them in prison for life.

You seriously have to be kidding me. I now have to agree with the ladies and say you are merely posting to get a reaction.

[susie31023]

You seriously have to be kidding me. I now have to agree with the ladies and say you are merely posting to get a reaction.
:beer:Thank you Frank:rose:~Susie

[SaraSidle]

:beer:Thank you Frank:rose:~Susie

Yes thank you Frank:beer:

[Notknowingall]

You seriously have to be kidding me. I now have to agree with the ladies and say you are merely posting to get a reaction.

ITA with you there

[rasmur]

I don't understand why what I said was so provocative. Oh well. Everyone to their own.

[susie31023]

I don't understand why what I said was so provocative. Oh well. Everyone to their own.

rasmur, if you truly don't understand I will try to explain it to you. This is a message board about victims and their families..These cases touch some of us to our very soul. When we discuss cases we feel an empathy for the victims and their families, not for the perpetrators. The tragedies these people have gone through and still go through surpass any consideration for the murderers.

In this case I [I wont assume to speak for the rest here] feel Karla managed to play the system and they in turn allowed her to. She participated not only by getting victims but in their murders also. Including her own younger sister. The horror that poor child must have went through. Someone she trusted, someone she loved, her own sister was responsible for that horror.When you posted what you did it hit a very sore nerve inside me.

Nothing short of her remaining in prison, should be acceptable. To say that "oh well she served her time and deserves to be left alone", to me is to put less value on her victims lives. Whether you mean it to sound that way or not. As I have said most here have been through their own tragedies and therefore know that you never get over it. You just learn how to deal with it as best you can.

So no you wont find too many here if any at all that have any sort of sympathy for those who choose to end another's life. I hope you were being sincere when you posted the above. If so then I have hopefully managed to answer your question.~Susie

[Fish Face Frank]

rasmur, if you truly don't understand I will try to explain it to you. This is a message board about victims and their families..These cases touch some of us to our very soul. When we discuss cases we feel an empathy for the victims and their families, not for the perpetrators. The tragedies these people have gone through and still go through surpass any consideration for the murderers.

In this case I [I wont assume to speak for the rest here] feel Karla managed to play the system and they in turn allowed her to. She participated not only by getting victims but in their murders also. Including her own younger sister. The horror that poor child must have went through. Someone she trusted, someone she loved, her own sister was responsible for that horror.When you posted what you did it hit a very sore nerve inside me.

Nothing short of her remaining in prison, should be acceptable. To say that "oh well she served her time and deserves to be left alone", to me is to put less value on her victims lives. Whether you mean it to sound that way or not. As I have said most here have been through their own tragedies and therefore know that you never get over it. You just learn how to deal with it as best you can.

So no you wont find too many here if any at all that have any sort of sympathy for those who choose to end another's life. I hope you were being sincere when you posted the above. If so then I have hopefully managed to answer your question.~Susie

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[susie31023]

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Thank you Frank.:rose:

[grneyes]

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Ditto! Very well said. :beer:

[susie31023]

Gee guys you're gonna give me a swelled head if you're not careful, LOL..Seriously though thank you both very much~Susie

[rasmur]

I'm sorry I struck a nerve with many of you, but this is a public forum. I, too, am troubled by the terrible things Karla did, her light sentence, and her aloofness and apparent lack of remorse, so I may still post on his forum from time to time, unless or until the moderators kick me off. If the rest of you don't like it, you'll just have to put me on Ignore, excoriate me, or report me to the moderators. Maybe it would be better if they did kick me off because, as I said before, I think talking about Karla is a bad habit.

[SaraSidle]

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Frank is it okay to borrow this picture from you sometime? it is great!!!!!

[Canadian Bum]

I haven't forgotten :) still looking for the pic of Thierry B :read: Very sorry peoples, but untill my son comes for a visit (:no::cuss:) I won't be able to locate the pic. He needs to put the old computer back together.

[SaraSidle]

Very sorry peoples, but untill my son comes for a visit (:no::cuss:) I won't be able to locate the pic. He needs to put the old computer back together.

I am happy with not knowing what he looks like CB. Enjoy your son and this weather...............

[soccermom]

I am still curious thou

:D

Let me know CB and thanks for not forgetting

[Fish Face Frank]

Frank is it okay to borrow this picture from you sometime? it is great!!!!!

I got it from the net. You go right ahead lol.

[SaraSidle]

I got it from the net. You go right ahead lol.

thank you so much. I just love it. I will play it to myself everyday. LOL. Notttt but it is good I might use it. :beer:

[stormange15]

Karla was not a victim, her sister was, and the Canadian justice system

[grneyes]

Karla was not a victim, her sister was, and the Canadian justice system

The Canadian justice system weren't victims. They KNEW Karla was lying but they were more interested in nailing Paul and wanted her testimoney against him. Didn't matter that in a dozen years they would be releasing a killer just as cold blooded as Paul back into the world.

[susie31023]

The Canadian justice system weren't victims. They KNEW Karla was lying but they were more interested in nailing Paul and wanted her testimoney against him. Didn't matter that in a dozen years they would be releasing a killer just as cold blooded as Paul back into the world.

Exactly GE. They had her and they CHOSE to not pursue the LWOP. In my book if she kills again they are just as guilty as she is. I sincerely feel sorry for any child that this cold blooded woman has.

[Fish Face Frank]

I still do not see how she left the country in a LEGAL fashion.

I have a spotless record and from time to time I have been interrogated pretty hard during international travel.

My thoughts were always either:
A) Canada paid another country to take her
B) No country would dare take her due to the controversy and risk, so she recieved plastic surgery and the Canadian Government relocated her with a new idenity. ( Kind of like Mary Bell in the UK).

[grneyes]

I still do not see how she left the country in a LEGAL fashion.

I have a spotless record and from time to time I have been interrogated pretty hard during international travel.

My thoughts were always either:
A) Canada paid another country to take her
B) No country would dare take her due to the controversy and risk, so she recieved plastic surgery and the Canadian Government relocated her with a new idenity. ( Kind of like Mary Bell in the UK).

Once released she became just as free as you or I. She had served her time and Canada could not legally restrict her, though they did try to at first. It's up to the country a person is going to whether they choose to let someone like her in and obviously they allowed her to enter.

But then, if she had been given the sentence she should have gotten then none of this would be under discussion. The legal system definitely dropped the ball on this one.

[Fish Face Frank]

Yeah but what country would take in a high profile serial killer? That's my point. :)

[grneyes]

Yeah but what country would take in a high profile serial killer? That's my point. :)

Quite a few will actually but why I don't know or understand. Especially if it was a brutal crime as this case was. :shrug:

[SaraSidle]

I always thought that if you had commited a crime like this that you would never be able to leave the country - so the 'authorities' could keep an eye on you, i too was surprised that she was allowed to leave. I feel so sorry for her child. Who knows, she might be a great mum, but one day her son is going to find out what his mother did to his aunt and the other girls

Maybe Canada is happy to see her go and if the Bahamas don't care?:shrug:

Personally I think she should be in jail myself. IMO

[delaineyrae]

you would think she would have trouble moving anywhere, like a sex offender.
btw, does anyone know if she has to register as one? her crimes were of that nature...
anyway, i doubt wherever she goes she doesnt draw attention to herself, and the sad reality is many criminals do live seemingly normal lives while flying under the radar.

[grneyes]

you would think she would have trouble moving anywhere, like a sex offender.
btw, does anyone know if she has to register as one? her crimes were of that nature...
anyway, i doubt wherever she goes she doesnt draw attention to herself, and the sad reality is many criminals do live seemingly normal lives while flying under the radar.

No she doesn't have to register. She was not charged nor convicted of sex crimes. (though she should have been :cuss:)

[SaraSidle]

No she doesn't have to register. She was not charged nor convicted of sex crimes. (though she should have been :cuss:)

Isn't it weird the justice system in the US and in Canada. Better than others though I think especially if you are innocent........

[grneyes]

Isn't it weird the justice system in the US and in Canada. Better than others though I think especially if you are innocent........

It's really sad that an 18 yr old can sleep with his 16 yr old girlfriend and end up on the sex offender list and yet someone like Karla walks away totally free.

[SaraSidle]

It's really sad that an 18 yr old can sleep with his 16 yr old girlfriend and end up on the sex offender list and yet someone like Karla walks away totally free.

I agree. I do not know a better system but criminals are walking and innocents are being put in prison.........very frustrating. the only saving detail at this time is DNA. but it is not good enough. I think a DNA should be submitted at every birth along with finger and hand prints. IMO O/T. IMO sara

[grneyes]

I agree. I do not know a better system but criminals are walking and innocents are being put in prison.........very frustrating. the only saving detail at this time is DNA. but it is not good enough. I think a DNA should be submitted at every birth along with finger and hand prints. IMO O/T. IMO sara

I agree and I've said that for years. But I think the majority would say their rights were being violated.

[SaraSidle]

I agree and I've said that for years. But I think the majority would say their rights were being violated.

Maybe in the future if people get tired of guilty going free and innocent imprisoned it was change. I do not believe you and I will be here to see it..IMO sara

[delaineyrae]

No she doesn't have to register. She was not charged nor convicted of sex crimes. (though she should have been :cuss:)

so what do you have to do to become a registered sex offender in Canada?:shrug:

[grneyes]

so what do you have to do to become a registered sex offender in Canada?:shrug:

I really don't know. :shrug: I know the laws have changed a lot since the Bernardo/Homolka trials but to what extent I don't have a clue. But, I still don't understand why she wasn't charged with sex crimes unless that was part of her deal. They were more interested in nailing Paul.

[delaineyrae]

I really don't know. :shrug: I know the laws have changed a lot since the Bernardo/Homolka trials but to what extent I don't have a clue. But, I still don't understand why she wasn't charged with sex crimes unless that was part of her deal. They were more interested in nailing Paul.

we could all go on for hours about which one of them was more evil, but the terrible world we live in causes the justice system to make deals with sh*t of the earth people. I honestly think Karla was worse, because men are more often to be the sexual aggressors, its not that uncommon for men to want virgins and violent sex. Karla didnt get jealous, thats why I think she is worse, she did what ever to keep Paul, even participating. Even for women who are abused, most wouldnt have gone along with it. I hate the fact that people who enable murders and deviants get less time if any. Why dont prosecutors realized that most of these crimes wouldnt happen if there was nobody to help out the perp? Paul probably would have stayed a rapist and maybe became a murderer after a while, but even when he got caught, the case would most likely been cut and dry against him.

[SaraSidle]

we could all go on for hours about which one of them was more evil, but the terrible world we live in causes the justice system to make deals with sh*t of the earth people. I honestly think Karla was worse, because men are more often to be the sexual aggressors, its not that uncommon for men to want virgins and violent sex. Karla didnt get jealous, thats why I think she is worse, she did what ever to keep Paul, even participating. Even for women who are abused, most wouldnt have gone along with it. I hate the fact that people who enable murders and deviants get less time if any. Why dont prosecutors realized that most of these crimes wouldnt happen if there was nobody to help out the perp? Paul probably would have stayed a rapist and maybe became a murderer after a while, but even when he got caught, the case would most likely been cut and dry against him.

Good post delaineyrae. If you don't stop one more crimes will happen. Welcome to the CL board!!!!!!!!!!!!

[delaineyrae]

Good post delaineyrae. If you don't stop one more crimes will happen. Welcome to the CL board!!!!!!!!!!!!

thank you
my childhood was actually lifetime movie foder but it wouldnt have been if people would have reported the things they saw when i was in foster care. so it really boils my blood to hear about people like Karla.

[SaraSidle]

thank you
my childhood was actually lifetime movie foder but it wouldnt have been if people would have reported the things they saw when i was in foster care. so it really boils my blood to hear about people like Karla.

I am so sorry delaineyrae. that is so bad for any child. Mine could have been lifetime but not as severe. You sound like you are doing better. You have good posts. sara

[RaVeN71806]

This case is so sickening my boyfriend can't even watch it..he gets very upset it..they had it on autposy reports on HBO...this women should of never been able to see the light of day...she killed her own sister to please the scumbag she was married too...blood is thicker then water..you never let anything come between your family..

[Grave Chaser]

Not to mention they've got her on tape having a good time raping and murdering those girls..... She's one sick wench!

I was visiting family over the holidays and had the tv to myself. I was going through the guide and some channel was telling the story so I stopped to re-watch it. My cousin came in and asked what I was watching, so I told her short version of the story. I thought she was going to fall over and die from shock that something like this could happen. When she called them a match made in hell, I couldn't agree more.

[SaraSidle]

Not to mention they've got her on tape having a good time raping and murdering those girls..... She's one sick wench!

I was visiting family over the holidays and had the tv to myself. I was going through the guide and some channel was telling the story so I stopped to re-watch it. My cousin came in and asked what I was watching, so I told her short version of the story. I thought she was going to fall over and die from shock that something like this could happen. When she called them a match made in hell, I couldn't agree more.

I agree Grave Chaser and I still have no idea why she is not in prison. I mean I know deals were made but this is beyond anything I can believe. IMO