View Full Version : 6-year old Hannah Mack found hanged and sexually assaulted
Mishell1383
09-15-2007, 05:10 AM
6-year-old Hanna Mack to be buried in Corsicana today
Navarro County girl was found hanged, assaulted Monday
05:26 AM CDT on Friday, September 14, 2007
By PAUL MEYER / The Dallas Morning News
pmeyer@dallasnews.com (pmeyer@dallasnews.com)
Funeral services for Hanna Mack are scheduled for today in Corsicana. The 6-year-old girl was found hanged in her family's garage earlier this week.
The boyfriend of Dana Mack, Hanna's mother, was identified as a primary suspect in the little girl's death by the Navarro County sheriff's office on Thursday.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/09-07/0913hannahmack.jpg Hanna Mack
Kevin Wayne Anders, 32, was being held in the Navarro County Jail on a charge of possession of child pornography, the sheriff's office said. He was arrested late Wednesday and has not been charged in the murder of Hanna Marie Mack. Bail was set at $100,000. Continued: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/DN-girldead_14tex.ART.State.Edition1.4267510.html
THIS MAKES ME SICK!!!!!!!!!! :flamemad:
Mishell1383
09-15-2007, 05:14 AM
Cops have suspect in hanging of girl, 6
By PAUL J. WEBER Thu Sep 13, 4:31 PM ET
CORSICANA, Texas - A 6-year-old girl who had been sexually assaulted was found hanged inside her family's garage, and authorities on Thursday described her mother's boyfriend as the primary suspect.
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The boyfriend was arrested Wednesday on a charge of possession of child pornography and remained in the Navarro County Jail on Thursday.
CONTINUED: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070913/ap_on_re_us/girl_dead
hissister
09-15-2007, 05:23 AM
I got goose bumps and tears in my eyes when I saw this news story. I felt sick inside. It's too heart-breaking. I pray that they find the person responsible; whether it's the mother's boyfriend or not.
Athena
09-15-2007, 10:00 PM
I think they should put all of these freaks in a public square and stoned. I am so sick of hearing how these perverts abuse and kill children. Ugh. I just get so upset when I read these kinds of stories which is why you don't find me too often in these threads. I just can't deal with them. :flamemad:
:rose: Hanna
Bailey Boys
09-15-2007, 10:33 PM
Another innocent soul, lost for no reason...:rose:
Mishell1383
09-16-2007, 12:20 AM
Hanna may your little innocent soul Rest softly in Peace. No one will ever hurt you again :rose: :rose: :rose:
One2Snoop
09-16-2007, 12:42 AM
I think they should put all of these freaks in a public square and stoned. I am so sick of hearing how these perverts abuse and kill children. Ugh. I just get so upset when I read these kinds of stories which is why you don't find me too often in these threads. I just can't deal with them. :flamemad:
:rose: Hanna
I agree Athena - this just breaks my heart. Poor little thing, may she R.I.P. :rose:
MaggieMay
09-16-2007, 11:28 AM
Rest in peace sweet angel....
Mishell1383
09-16-2007, 01:00 PM
Does anyone else find it a little odd she was found sleeping on the couch at 1am? Why wasn't she put to bed? Or carried to her bed when found at 1 am? Especially if it was a school night? Also does she wake herself up for school? Her mother stated she was found missing when she was supposed t be getting ready for school, not she was found missing when I went to go wake her UP for school. Maybe I'm different, I just find it odd a 6 year old seems to be treated like a 16 year old. :confused:
Sharon
09-18-2007, 08:55 PM
Does anyone else find it a little odd she was found sleeping on the couch at 1am? Why wasn't she put to bed? Or carried to her bed when found at 1 am? Especially if it was a school night? Also does she wake herself up for school? Her mother stated she was found missing when she was supposed t be getting ready for school, not she was found missing when I went to go wake her UP for school. Maybe I'm different, I just find it odd a 6 year old seems to be treated like a 16 year old. :confused:
I think you could be right about some of those details (well spotted!!!), or else the article was just badly worded. It seemed that the girls family were devistated and she was much loved. Hopefully the truth will be told.
I just cant get my head around all these children being murdered, and by adults who had a relationship with them. It is so horrific to imagine a trusted adult turning on the one he is ment to be looking after.
So sorry for this little sweet girl.:rose:
Another one for the death penalty if I could choose.
Athena
09-18-2007, 09:00 PM
Does anyone else find it a little odd she was found sleeping on the couch at 1am? Why wasn't she put to bed? Or carried to her bed when found at 1 am? Especially if it was a school night? Also does she wake herself up for school? Her mother stated she was found missing when she was supposed t be getting ready for school, not she was found missing when I went to go wake her UP for school. Maybe I'm different, I just find it odd a 6 year old seems to be treated like a 16 year old. :confused:
I agree with Sharon that it could have been the wording. Re: sleeping on the couch -- doesn't say if the family was economically deprived but it is possible that the couch was the little girl's bed as there may have been only one bedroom and being the mom had a boyfriend...... just a thought.
Jo_Momma_82
09-29-2007, 04:34 AM
Neighbor Charged With Murder Of Hanna Mack
19-Year-Old Arrested In Navarro County Girl's Murder
(CBS News) NAVARRO COUNTY Officials have arrested a neighbor and charged him with capital murder in the death earlier this month of a Navarro County girl.
Officials arrested Shawn Earl Arender, 19, and charged him with capital murder in the Hanna Mack murder, authorities said at a news conference Friday morning.
Navarro County Sheriff's Chief Deputy Mike Cox said Arender lived less than a mile from the Mack's rural home about 65 miles south of Dallas. He was already in jail on unrelated burglary and drug possession charges.
Cox said DNA evidence linked Arender to the crime scene. His bond is set at $2.5 million.
According to an affidavit when Arender was questioned Wednesday he, "would not give a statement, but put his head on the table and cried." The document also states that a couple of days before being questioned about Hanna's death, Arender cut himself with a piece of glass and was taken to the hospital "because he was depressed."
CBS 11 talked to Anders uncle who said Shawn was a 'trouble maker', but he could have never imagined his nephew would be accused of 'something like this'.
The 6-year-old girl was found hanging in the family garage on Sept. 10. An autopsy later revealed that the girl had also been sexually assaulted.
Dana Mack's live-in boyfriend Kevin Wayne Anders was arrested two days after the little girl's body was found. He was charged with possession of child pornography. Bond was set at $100,000 and he remains jailed.
At the time of his arrest Anders was considered the primary suspect in Hanna's death, and as of Friday, he hadn' t been ruled out as a suspect.
http://cbs11tv.com/topstories/local_story_271112013.html
Jo_Momma_82
09-29-2007, 04:37 AM
Reached at home Friday, Michael Runion, Hanna's grandfather, said the family felt "a whole lot better" knowing that Mr. Anders wasn't responsible for Hanna's death.
"I think it's a huge sense of relief," Mr. Runion said. "Although [Mr. Anders] has some other charges to deal with ... at least it isn't that charge."
Mr. Runion said Mr. Arender is not a relative or family friend.
"We don't know him," Mr. Runion said. "I don't know what went on at that house, but I know I've never seen the guy."
Although arrest records list a Corsicana address for Mr. Arender, the affidavit said he lived in a mobile home near Purdon, just east of Navarro Mills Lake.
Chief Deputy Sheriff Mike Cox said Mr. Arender lived a little less than a mile from the Macks' two-story house.
Sheriff Cotten said Friday that Hanna's family members had told investigators "they thought they had seen [Mr. Arender] walking down the road once or twice but they didn't know him."
Mr. Arender is described in arrest records as an unemployed construction worker.
On Monday, while in jail, he cut himself with glass and had to be treated at a Corsicana hospital, according to the affidavit. It quotes Mr. Arender as saying he was depressed.
According to an online Texas convictions database, in the past two years, Mr. Arender was convicted in Navarro County of a misdemeanor charge of criminal mischief, a felony charge of evidence tampering and two counts of burglary.
Last October, after the burglary convictions, his five-year probation sentence for evidence tampering was revoked. He was ordered to go to prison for three years. It was not clear Friday why he wasn't still in prison.
Mr. Arender also had a juvenile criminal record, one serious enough to land him in Texas Youth Commission custody. An official close to the investigation said Mr. Arender was released four years ago from the agency's Corsicana Residential Treatment Center – the TYC facility reserved for youthful offenders with serious mental health problems.
The official also indicated Mr. Arender was admitted to a state mental hospital sometime after he left TYC custody.
A spokesman for TYC declined to comment, saying only that "state law forbids us from disclosing any information about youth in our custody."
Phone numbers listed for Mr. Arender's mother and brother in Corsicana had been disconnected.
The arrest affidavit said Mr. Arender caused "the death of Hanna Mack by asphyxiation by a manner and means unknown" while in the act of sexually assaulting her.
It said his DNA, kept in a state Department of Criminal Justice database, was a "possible match" with a biological sample taken from Hanna's shirt. It didn't specify if the sample was hair or fluid.
Chief Deputy Cox issued a news release calling the comparison a "positive match."
On Thursday afternoon, Navarro County District Judge Sam Bournias signed an order permitting deputies to take a blood sample from Mr. Arender for further tests. It was unclear Friday when lab tests of the suspect's blood sample would be completed.
Judge Bournias also let deputies search Mr. Arender's trailer home for a necklace and pendant. The affidavit quoted Dana Mack as saying Hanna "always wore" the jewelry, which was missing when her body was discovered. Deputies also were to search for several household items Ms. Mack said were missing. An employee at the Navarro Mills Café and General Store, where Hanna's mother works, said that Ms. Mack was not there and that "this isn't a good day to talk to her."
http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/DN-girlhanged_29tex.ART.North.Edition1.424e350.html
Jo_Momma_82
09-29-2007, 04:51 AM
Thank God..... this s.o.b. will pay and I hope it's with the death penalty ! How dare he take away this poor girls innocence and life ! I hope that the mother can find peace and hopefully she won't take the boyfriend back b/c even though he wasn't the rapist/murderer... he had the child pornography, he's still evil in my eyes ! Why won't these *******s just leave kids ALONE ?!? I know none of you can answer that but, thats the question that comes to mind when I read about things like this.
sallynuts
09-29-2007, 08:10 AM
:flamemad: :flamemad:
This is just so horrid,,, i can not comprehend it, at all....:shrug:
I am very glad they have found the person responsible,,, i even find that abhorrent, as he is so young too...
This is all so sad,, that poor child,, :rose: :rose: :rose:
'Vodka Doesn't Freeze' a novel by Leah Giarratano
Mishell1383
09-29-2007, 08:45 AM
Thank God..... this s.o.b. will pay and I hope it's with the death penalty ! How dare he take away this poor girls innocence and life ! I hope that the mother can find peace and hopefully she won't take the boyfriend back b/c even though he wasn't the rapist/murderer... he had the child pornography, he's still evil in my eyes ! Why won't these *******s just leave kids ALONE ?!? I know none of you can answer that but, thats the question that comes to mind when I read about things like this.
Authorities Charge Neighbor With Murder After Texas Girl, 6, Found Hanged in Garage
Friday, September 28, 2007
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CORSICANA, Texas — A neighbor of a 6-year-old girl who was found hanged in her family's garage has been charged with sexual assault and capital murder, authorities said Friday.
Hanna Mack's body was found earlier this month by her mother. Authorities said the first-grader had been sexually assaulted and hanged.
Shaun Earl Arender, 19, was linked to the crime scene by DNA evidence, Navarro County Sheriff's Chief Deputy Mike Cox said Friday. Arender lived less than a mile from the little girl's rural home, about 65 miles south of Dallas.
Arender was already in jail on unrelated burglary and drug possession charges. A DNA sample taken from the shirt Hanna was wearing was entered into a Texas Department of Public Safety DNA indexing program Wednesday, and it indicated Arender was a possible match, according to the arrest affidavit.
Arender was questioned Wednesday, and, according to the affidavit "would not give a statement, but put his head on the table and cried."
continued: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298488,00.html
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Mishell1383
09-29-2007, 08:46 AM
Oh I apologize! I didn't realize Jo had posted this article earlier! OOPS! sorry!
Jo_Momma_82
09-29-2007, 11:54 AM
Thanks Mishell, I tried to add the picture earlier and none of the pages I went too would let me copy it.
dallasvic
09-29-2007, 01:35 PM
What a precious child. Things like this sicken me. I hope he get death.
Mishell1383
09-29-2007, 07:04 PM
Thanks Mishell, I tried to add the picture earlier and none of the pages I went too would let me copy it.
That just happened to me earlier! I thought it was my comp! :confused:
djkidrich
09-30-2007, 06:48 AM
That just happened to me earlier! I thought it was my comp! :confused:
Yea,
I just hit Print Screen and paste the picture into Paintshop or Paint if you don't have any picture editing software...
Mishell1383
09-30-2007, 09:49 AM
Yea,
I just hit Print Screen and paste the picture into Paintshop or Paint if you don't have any picture editing software...
Thanks for the tip!:seeya:
Sharon
09-30-2007, 12:28 PM
Thank God..... this s.o.b. will pay and I hope it's with the death penalty ! How dare he take away this poor girls innocence and life ! I hope that the mother can find peace and hopefully she won't take the boyfriend back b/c even though he wasn't the rapist/murderer... he had the child pornography, he's still evil in my eyes ! Why won't these *******s just leave kids ALONE ?!? I know none of you can answer that but, thats the question that comes to mind when I read about things like this.
Its so true. The little girl was still a baby. I cant bare to think what happened......how could anyone be so cruel to a child.
I hope this guy gets gp in prison where he will know what hell is and beg for death.
Wichita
10-01-2007, 03:23 PM
Here are a few common circumstances that I have seen in these types of cases:
1. The victim is in a single parent family
2. The "boyfriend" cultivates a relationship with the mother to gain access to the victim.
3. Birds of a feather flock together: Pedophiles share information, photos, and sometimes victims between themselves. They brag.
4. Since child porn was found in the possession of the "boyfriend", I suspect the victim was abused by him prior to her murder, and may have actually been involved in it. Investigators may find a communication link between the suspect and the "boyfriend via computer, cell phone, mail, etc. How else would the suspect have known the victim well enough to find her?
The arrested murderer deserves the death penalty if convicted. If the boyfriend took money from the suspect to provide the victim for him, he, too deserves the death penalty. (I have no evidence to base my suspicion that the boyfriend was involved. It's just a gut feeling.) I personally believe that pedophiles are incapable of rehabilitation, and deserve death. I know others don't feel that way, but until we wake up and stop believing the prevaricators of warm and fuzzy treatment programs for these guys, it will never stop.
Sharon
10-02-2007, 01:40 AM
Here are a few common circumstances that I have seen in these types of cases:
1. The victim is in a single parent family
2. The "boyfriend" cultivates a relationship with the mother to gain access to the victim.
3. Birds of a feather flock together: Pedophiles share information, photos, and sometimes victims between themselves. They brag.
4. Since child porn was found in the possession of the "boyfriend", I suspect the victim was abused by him prior to her murder, and may have actually been involved in it. Investigators may find a communication link between the suspect and the "boyfriend via computer, cell phone, mail, etc. How else would the suspect have known the victim well enough to find her?
The arrested murderer deserves the death penalty if convicted. If the boyfriend took money from the suspect to provide the victim for him, he, too deserves the death penalty. (I have no evidence to base my suspicion that the boyfriend was involved. It's just a gut feeling.) I personally believe that pedophiles are incapable of rehabilitation, and deserve death. I know others don't feel that way, but until we wake up and stop believing the prevaricators of warm and fuzzy treatment programs for these guys, it will never stop.
I agree with every word you have so elequently posted!!! I think it is too coincidental that the `boyfriend` is into pedo. porn. And I am sure that a link will be uncovered. I think that both peds should be put to death, or more easily....let into gp of the prison system.
Wildwombat
10-02-2007, 11:50 AM
:eek: This is my first post so I hope it goes well.
I totally agree with the two previous posts. I know that these people can not be rehabilitated, I have known and been a vic. of sex offenders. Thats a long story and I am fine and love my place in life now. I am just letting you all know because I figured someone might ask or wonder.
I really do want to comment on Hannah. This little girl has the face of my Hayhay and all of our daughters. This makes me sick, sad, pi**ed off, fearful and confused and makes me want to beat my head aginst a wall, just to get the thought out of my mind.
I heard about Hannah the day they found her body and I mapped it, from my house to hers and it is less than 12 miles.......from my house where my four year old princess plays in her back yard and sleeps at night and I know that it could have been my baby or anyone elses, two parent household or not. Mine is a two parent household and it could have been one of my children. If someone really wants to get to them they can. Im not naive I know that they are every where but my little girl just started Pre-K and I have to leave her in the morning and hope that that kiss good bye is not the last one. Because of child molesters and murders like the winner that snuffed out Hannahs sweet innocent life. When is our legal system going to stop this? When are we going to start giving the death penalty to the people that deserve it? How many more of our children have to suffer or die at the hands of the people that our justice system go out of their way to protect (their rights). What about Hannahs right to be safe in her home or her right to breath and not be reduced to someTHING for some sick ass freak to get off on.????? Maybe some of these people are really sick in the head and can't be fixed, well, if I had a dog that was sick with rabies and he would not get better and he had already hurt someone, I would have to have him put down, know matter how I felt about it. Why should we give these sick, baby killing monsters any more life value? Gather them all up and put a bullet in their worthless fing heads. Until that is legal, all of you freaks that read this, do us all a favor and off yourself. I hope you all burn in hell.:flamemad:
Rest in peace Princess Hannah.........I am sorry that that is all any of us can offer now. I will pray for you and your family. :rose: XOXO:rose: sorry so long folks
Wombat
Wildwombat
10-02-2007, 11:59 AM
:eek: This is my first post so I hope it goes well.
I totally agree with Mishell and Sharon's posts. I know that these people can not be rehabilitated, I have known and been a vic. of sex offenders. Thats a long story and I am fine and love my place in life now. I am just letting you all know because I figured someone might ask or wonder.
I really do want to comment on Hannah. This little girl has the face of my Hayhay and all of our daughters. This makes me sick, sad, pi**ed off, fearful and confused and makes me want to beat my head aginst a wall, just to get the thought out of my mind.
I heard about Hannah the day they found her body and I mapped it, from my house to hers and it is less than 12 miles.......from my house where my four year old princess plays in her back yard and sleeps at night and I know that it could have been my baby or anyone elses, two parent household or not. Mine is a two parent household and it could have been one of my children. If someone really wants to get to them they can. Im not naive I know that they are every where but my little girl just started Pre-K and I have to leave her in the morning and hope that that kiss good bye is not the last one. Because of child molesters and murders like the winner that snuffed out Hannahs sweet innocent life. When is our legal system going to stop this? When are we going to start giving the death penalty to the people that deserve it? How many more of our children have to suffer or die at the hands of the people that our justice system go out of their way to protect (their rights). What about Hannahs right to be safe in her home or her right to breath and not be reduced to someTHING for some sick ass freak to get off on.????? Maybe some of these people are really sick in the head and can't be fixed, well, if I had a dog that was sick with rabies and he would not get better and he had already hurt someone, I would have to have him put down, know matter how I felt about it. Why should we give these sick, baby killing monsters any more life value? Gather them all up and put a bullet in their worthless fing heads. Until that is legal, all of you freaks that read this, do us all a favor and off yourself. I hope you all burn in hell.:flamemad:
Rest in peace Princess Hannah.........I am sorry that that is all any of us can offer now. I will pray for you and your family. :rose: XOXO:rose: sorry so long folks
Wombat
Mishell1383
10-02-2007, 12:14 PM
I couldn't agree more Wombat. I have 5 nieces all under the age of 6. Two of them are now taking the bus. Luckily the bus stop is directly in front of the house. However, bus stops aren't even where the majority of these child cases are committed. The thing that kills me is Hannah was safe in her house at 1 am, she was seen sleeping on her couch. What happened to Hannah in between 1 am and when her body was found? I can't help but think the mother's boyfriend had something to do with this. was he in the house at the time Hannah was taken? He would have had more access to her than the scumbag 19 year old did. How did that scab get a hold of her? Child porn in the home? BIG SIGN! I want answers, and I'm checking daily for updates on these two dirtbags!!!!!
Wichita
10-02-2007, 03:30 PM
Wombat,
I was hoping someone would key on the "single parent" connection. The reason I mentioned it is not because children of functional, happy, two parent homes are not just as vulnerable. It is because I have seen how difficult it is for a young mother to raise children alone. She is overwhelmed with providing the basics: food, shelter, clothing, nurturing. All the while, she has her own physical and emotional needs that are being neglected. Many times, especially in the case of young mothers, they are desperate to succeed in a relationship and make mistakes in judgment that turn out to be tragic. These pedophiles are not stupid people. They understand the "needs", and they con their way into the lives of decent women only to take advantage. The only way we can protect ourselves is through education and vicarious experience. All parents, whether single or double, need to learn about sexual perversion. They need to be wary of their neighbors, their Sunday school teachers, coaches, police officers,...everyone! Does this sound like paranoia? It isn't. It's caution, because paranoia is only paranoia if it isn't the truth. The truth is that there are too many predators lurking in our world to not pay attention.....one hundred percent of the time. It's just easier, all things being equal, for a pedophile to worm his way into a single parent home. If I had a nickel for every time I've heard, "I knew he had been in jail before, but he told me it was for burglary. He didn't tell me he was stealing panties, and peeping in windows. I never would have befriended him, but I thought he deserved a second chance." Do our children get a second chance?
My heart is broken for Hanna, but her suffering is over. Now, her mother will go through the living hell of blaming herself for everything from a failed relationship with Hanna's father, to the circumstances leading up to Hanna's torture, rape, and murder. Pray for Mom, lest she become another victim.
Wildwombat
10-02-2007, 05:44 PM
I agree Warmncozy. The death pen. is to easy for these monsters but if they could just be done away with, they would not suck our tax dollars away and add insult to injury by eating up the money that should be going to our schools by setting in prison and working out and eating all the time. They end up bigger and more dangerous when they come out. I really do see what you mean but I am to the point that I dont even care if they suffer. Just kill them all, get rid of them, whatever. Just dead is fine with me. Their suffering will not ever take away their victims pain anyway.
Wildwombat
Devotion
10-02-2007, 06:24 PM
:eek: This is my first post so I hope it goes well.
I totally agree with the two previous posts. I know that these people can not be rehabilitated,
Because of child molesters and murders like the winner that snuffed out Hannahs sweet innocent life.
When is our legal system going to stop this?
When are we going to start giving the death penalty to the people that deserve it?
How many more of our children have to suffer or die at the hands of the people that our justice system go out of their way to protect (their rights).
What about Hannahs right to be safe in her home or her right to breath and not be reduced to someTHING for some sick ass freak to get off on.?????
Maybe some of these people are really sick in the head and can't be fixed, well,
if I had a dog that was sick with rabies and he would not get better and he had already hurt someone, I would have to have him put down, know matter how I felt about it.
Why should we give these sick, baby killing monsters any more life value? Gather them all up and put a bullet in their worthless fing heads.
Wombat
:cuss: I agree...they destroy the rape victims life.
Which is worse than some murders IMO..., yet the courts let them out on BOND to do it again..does anyone understand that?
we know when a rabid animal is around our children, and can put it down...
with these sick freaks, most of the time we can't tell who they have targeted as their next victim, until it's too late....jmo
Wildwombat
10-04-2007, 03:45 PM
:eek:
You need to make another post.
You are not setting at a GOOD #.
Just a heads up
Good luck and hope you had a great day
Wombat;)
WarmNCozy
10-04-2007, 07:33 PM
We are too kind to these sickos! They roam the streets for years, put on lists, so what! How many children do they rape that they are not punished for! And the ultimate crime, killing the victim to prevent being caught, and when they are not "found out" do it again.
Lethal injection is now suspect of being too inhumane! Are you kidding me? I thought the gas chamber, electric chair and even hanging were far less painful than what these perverts did to their victims!
First offense should have a 5 year in prison no possibility for parole. Second offense, castration and 20 years in jail, again no possibility for parole.
And, God forbid, a third offense, stoning by the parents and loved ones, so they die slowly!:flamemad:
WarmNCozy
10-04-2007, 07:34 PM
:eek:
You need to make another post.
You are not setting at a GOOD #.
Just a heads up
Good luck and hope you had a great day
Wombat;)
WHAT? I don't understand this post!
Mishell1383
10-04-2007, 09:47 PM
!?!?! I don't get it either? If your talking about her dp post I agree with it entirely, we all have a difference of opinion... :confused:
Sharon
10-05-2007, 10:50 AM
Wombat,
I was hoping someone would key on the "single parent" connection. The reason I mentioned it is not because children of functional, happy, two parent homes are not just as vulnerable. It is because I have seen how difficult it is for a young mother to raise children alone. She is overwhelmed with providing the basics: food, shelter, clothing, nurturing. All the while, she has her own physical and emotional needs that are being neglected. Many times, especially in the case of young mothers, they are desperate to succeed in a relationship and make mistakes in judgment that turn out to be tragic. These pedophiles are not stupid people. They understand the "needs", and they con their way into the lives of decent women only to take advantage. The only way we can protect ourselves is through education and vicarious experience. All parents, whether single or double, need to learn about sexual perversion. They need to be wary of their neighbors, their Sunday school teachers, coaches, police officers,...everyone! Does this sound like paranoia? It isn't. It's caution, because paranoia is only paranoia if it isn't the truth. The truth is that there are too many predators lurking in our world to not pay attention.....one hundred percent of the time. It's just easier, all things being equal, for a pedophile to worm his way into a single parent home. If I had a nickel for every time I've heard, "I knew he had been in jail before, but he told me it was for burglary. He didn't tell me he was stealing panties, and peeping in windows. I never would have befriended him, but I thought he deserved a second chance." Do our children get a second chance?
My heart is broken for Hanna, but her suffering is over. Now, her mother will go through the living hell of blaming herself for everything from a failed relationship with Hanna's father, to the circumstances leading up to Hanna's torture, rape, and murder. Pray for Mom, lest she become another victim.
You worded that so well, and unfortunately I dont doubt a word you have said.
I am so brutely aware of men looking at my 4 year old daughter, that I feel I have to guard her 24/7. And I am even more aware that its the people I cant see, the ones that have gone under my radar, that are more frightening......I dont think you realise it when you have become a `target`. I trust nobody (except my immediate family) because I know how sick people are and you dont get a second chance.
I used to be scared when I thought my daughter looked provocative in certain outfits, now I know that peds go for any child. Infact they prefer child- like outfits and dont care about adult type clothes to make the child attractive to them. So as a parent there is no winning, you have to be paranoid and not let people into your life if there are any red flags....
The problem is that you sometimes dont realise that what you thought was weird or didnt feel right was a `red flag` warning. Sometimes you dont realise till its too late.
I know that if i got divorsed, it would be a cold day in hell that I let a new man into my childrens lives while they are little. I have heard of the molestation thing happening in all levels of social circles, wealth not being a factor, more to do with single Mum being targeted!!!
Sorry for the rant, this story is too sad for words, I am too terrified to imagine the girls horror after she was woken from her sleep.....and the Mother who now will never wake up from her nighmare.
I hope this guy and the boyfriend get at least one night in gp where I believe they will get more than I could imagine and deserve every bit of it.
Wichita
10-05-2007, 11:37 AM
It is sad that we need to be in a constant "ready" condition. Ready to react, to protect, to run, to fight, or even to kill if necessary to survive. It sounds barbaric, and I know that humanity should have moved past this 'jungle' mentality, but we haven't. All one need do is listen to the 6 o'clock news. I'm not trying to scare people, although I know that is the end result. However, King Solomon said, "The prudent see the danger before hand, and avoid it. The simple pass on, and are punished."
Wildwombat
10-05-2007, 12:09 PM
I am sorry for the confusion...I guess you did not see your post count. Yesterday it was at 666, so I was trying to point it out. I know it is trevial but I would have wanted to change mine if I caught it.
I feel so dim now....LOL
Wombat :D
Mishell1383
10-05-2007, 12:12 PM
I am sorry for the confusion...I guess you did not see your post count. Yesterday it was at 666, so I was trying to point it out. I know it is trevial but I would have wanted to change mine if I caught it.
I feel so dim now....LOL
Wombat :D
oooooooooooo! LOLOLOLOL I get it! hahahaha I would have changed it immediatly too! i'm very superstitious when it comes to that stuff, i just cant help it. :tongue:
Mishell1383
10-05-2007, 12:14 PM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/mishell1383/photo_servlet.jpg
Little Hanna Mack in her school picture
Mishell1383
10-05-2007, 12:20 PM
I know I posted this pic earlier but this one shows his booking photo with more of a body shot
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/mishell1383/ALeqM5iyCNKyZls68TOwfffDK9pA3BJvgw.jpg
Seashell
10-05-2007, 05:55 PM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/mishell1383/photo_servlet.jpg
Little Hanna Mack in her school picture
little hannah this is for you :rose:
may the evil MONSTER go straight to hell and am sure he will!
drola3
10-06-2007, 02:04 AM
I think they should put all of these freaks in a public square and stoned. I am so sick of hearing how these perverts abuse and kill children. Ugh. I just get so upset when I read these kinds of stories which is why you don't find me too often in these threads. I just can't deal with them. :flamemad:
:rose: Hanna
I agree whole heartedly. This beast that did that to her deserves a very painful death. Maybe then he might gain a little understanding of what he did before he died.
WarmNCozy
10-07-2007, 05:22 PM
I am sorry for the confusion...I guess you did not see your post count. Yesterday it was at 666, so I was trying to point it out. I know it is trevial but I would have wanted to change mine if I caught it.
I feel so dim now....LOL
Wombat :D
Oh My GOD! That number should never print on any counter!
I didn't understand! My cat of 17 years died the next day!
Wildwombat
10-08-2007, 12:16 PM
Oh I am so sorry about your cat..I am a cat lover. I got goose bumps when you said your cat died the day after your post count was 6*6. Im not typing that again. FREAKY!!!!! EEwww!!:eek:
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