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Watership Down
09-03-2007, 10:32 PM
Right now there is a limit of 12 or 13 smileys per post. Should there be a limit on the number used?

HowardLovedAnna
09-03-2007, 10:42 PM
Yes cause when a whole row of smilies and no words are used time and time again it isnt really necessary and sometimes is only used to try and agitate other posters. I do realise for some people they could have problems putting what they mean to say but it is meant to be a discussion board jmo

Watership Down
09-03-2007, 10:43 PM
Yes cause when a whole row of smilies and no words are used time and time again it isnt really necessary and sometimes is only used to try and agitate other posters. I do realise for some people they could have problems putting what they mean to say but it is meant to be a discussion board jmo



I agree. It adds nothing to the discussion.

glenna
09-03-2007, 11:11 PM
Wow, glad I found this poll! IMO, there is nothing to be gained by a row of clicking beer mugs!! I mean a row that stretches across the entire post! If the intent is to show agreement, then the intentions are lost by the sheer
"in your face" attitude that is attached.

MHOO

bbornfree
09-03-2007, 11:27 PM
I agree. I voted three. I think that's plenty to add "drama" or "emphasis" and some uniqueness to what you are expressing.

Anything else is just annoying, distracting, and quite honestly kinda immature.

I think it would be easier to maintain civility because the excessive emoticons are anything but intended as civil. And, it seems when they are excessive that the ones doing so are not adding much to the conversation in the first place.

Good idea and it won't kill any of us to be limited to three.

Great poll!!!

RN1
09-03-2007, 11:31 PM
Wow, glad I found this poll! IMO, there is nothing to be gained by a row of clicking beer mugs!! I mean a row that stretches across the entire post! If the intent is to show agreement, then the intentions are lost by the sheer
"in your face" attitude that is attached.

MHOO
It's extremely irritating and adds nothing to the discussion.

AnnAnne
09-03-2007, 11:43 PM
Wow, glad I found this poll! IMO, there is nothing to be gained by a row of clicking beer mugs!! I mean a row that stretches across the entire post! If the intent is to show agreement, then the intentions are lost by the sheer
"in your face" attitude that is attached.

MHOO

That's been my signal to skip over it and not bother reading it. Of course there tends to be little to read.
:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

Luke Davis
09-04-2007, 12:36 AM
If anyone uses more than 12 :hat: regularly, I just ignore them.:punch: :cuss: :confused: :seeya: :eek: :shrug: :hat: :mad: :read:

Watership Down
09-04-2007, 12:44 AM
If anyone uses more than 12 :hat: regularly, I just ignore them.:punch: :cuss: :confused: :seeya: :eek: :shrug: :hat: :mad: :read:



The problem is even if you put them on ignore someone quotes them and it really is annoying when 90% of their posts is nothing but a long line of smileys.

Luke Davis
09-04-2007, 01:05 AM
The problem is even if you put them on ignore someone quotes them and it really is annoying when 90% of their posts is nothing but a long line of smileys.I thought posters could turn smileys off.:hat: :hat: :hat: :hat: :hat: :hat: :hat: :hat: :hat: :hat:

chambord
09-04-2007, 04:59 AM
I'm chuckling over this poll. Some of those complaining were the biggest offenders with the gap toothed icon, using it as an insulting comment over at CTV message board, that Coldwater had to ban the use of it on one board. LOL

nightwatcher
09-04-2007, 07:19 AM
My gosh, is this really an issue? People just crack me up. :biggrin:

I do believe that, these are serious issues that involve jealousy & the need to control others. :rolleyes: Sarcasm, rudeness, constant harassment & insults, are by far worse than using icons. ;) Unfortunately, those things can't be disabled on the computer. :shrug: Read my signature line, & you'll know what I'm mean. :read: From now on, I won't reply with quotes, so that you can disable your smilies. It's a good idea, if others would do likewise. That way, no one has to see those icons, if they don't choose to do so. :) Total lack of respect for others & their rights, is also far more annoying than any number of icons. IMO :D :biggrin: :seeya: :patriot:

sweetcharlotte
09-04-2007, 07:26 AM
Limited, yes. Some use the icons simply as visual derailment.

nightwatcher
09-04-2007, 07:28 AM
I'm chuckling over this poll. Some of those complaining were the biggest offenders with the gap toothed icon, using it as an insulting comment over at CTV message board, that Coldwater had to ban the use of it on one board. LOLI think that's hilarious too, cham! Too funny! It's a good thing there isn't a poll about rudeness. Rudeness constitutes disrespecting others, & their rights to their opinions. That being said, have a nice day everyone. I'm waving to you all, but, you can't see it because, I haven't used my icons, as this is from a quotation. IMO

nightwatcher
09-04-2007, 07:33 AM
Limited, yes. Some use the icons simply as visual derailment.

That is not my intention, and I've stated numerous times, why, I like to use them. Rudeness, sarcasm, & disrespecting others & their rights to their opinions, is most definitely & obviously "derailment". IMO

sweetcharlotte
09-04-2007, 07:45 AM
I'm chuckling over this poll. Some of those complaining were the biggest offenders with the gap toothed icon, using it as an insulting comment over at CTV message board, that Coldwater had to ban the use of it on one board. LOL

That's interesting. Are they still posting at CTV? I don't see any restrictions over there now.........


MOO MOO MO

rachelslaw
09-04-2007, 08:13 AM
I'm chuckling over this poll. Some of those complaining were the biggest offenders with the gap toothed icon, using it as an insulting comment over at CTV message board, that Coldwater had to ban the use of it on one board. LOL

I find this poll fascinating as well. All the voters from one particular forum, including a moderator, and there is only one poster in that particular forum that can possibly be accused of the "overuse of icons" complaint. Interesting.

Is this a "gang" thing? Do the other forums on this board have this problem, or is this just about one poster on one forum?

I see many votes on here for the "3 icon maximum", just like CTV. :rolleyes: If I wanted to post on a forum "Just like CTV", I'd go there. I like this one better.

I'm not voting. I will not participate in a "gang" vote to single out one particular poster. Suffice it to say that I like the way things are here and would not change a thing.

IMO

sweetcharlotte
09-04-2007, 08:26 AM
<snip>

I'm not voting. I will not participate in a "gang" vote to single out one particular poster. Suffice it to say that I like the way things are here and would not change a thing.

IMO


You think it's just one particular poster? Interesting......


MOO MOO MO

Gatos
09-04-2007, 08:52 AM
The smilies can be fun but they can also be used to do nothing more than bait other posters. For some it seems to have become a signature of sorts, imo. I sure wouldn't miss them at all :cool: !!

happyday
09-04-2007, 09:00 AM
Is this board for adults? For heavens sake, can't people learn to ignore, turn the smilies off, whatever!! :rolleyes:

Is the need to control gone so far that now we are being told how many smilies to post.

GROW UP!! :rolleyes:

sweetcharlotte
09-04-2007, 09:45 AM
I've always heard if you want to be treated like an adult you must act like an adult. :shrug:

Everything in moderation is a good rule - IMO


MOO MOO MO

Isabella
09-04-2007, 09:50 AM
On the thread I post on most often at CL. the biggest offender(s) uses nothing but smiles, in almost every single post. Suggesting to me that either it is used to bait and derail a thread, or some have no real thoughts or have nothing to contribute to any discussion here at CL. Please think about if every poster did this also, then you might have a very different veiw. I agree you can ignore and perhaps turn off the smiles, but that would not address the issue of why this is done by some in the first place. jmo

Watership Down
09-04-2007, 11:08 AM
Is this board for adults? For heavens sake, can't people learn to ignore, turn the smilies off, whatever!! :rolleyes:

Is the need to control gone so far that now we are being told how many smilies to post.

GROW UP!! :rolleyes:


I shouldn't have to turn the smileys off because someone abuses them.

Watership Down
09-04-2007, 11:11 AM
I'm chuckling over this poll. Some of those complaining were the biggest offenders with the gap toothed icon, using it as an insulting comment over at CTV message board, that Coldwater had to ban the use of it on one board. LOL



Let's be honest here for once. Coldwater banned the laughing icon because you and your friends complained about it. Pot/kettle???

rachelslaw
09-04-2007, 11:14 AM
I shouldn't have to turn the smileys off because someone abuses them.

And I shouldn't be deprived of the use of smilies because a certain "gang" is offended by one poster who they feel is abusing them. Turn them off, keep them on, it's your choice. :shrug:

IMO

Watership Down
09-04-2007, 11:15 AM
I find this poll fascinating as well. All the voters from one particular forum, including a moderator, and there is only one poster in that particular forum that can possibly be accused of the "overuse of icons" complaint. Interesting.

Is this a "gang" thing? Do the other forums on this board have this problem, or is this just about one poster on one forum?

I see many votes on here for the "3 icon maximum", just like CTV. :rolleyes: If I wanted to post on a forum "Just like CTV", I'd go there. I like this one better.

I'm not voting. I will not participate in a "gang" vote to single out one particular poster. Suffice it to say that I like the way things are here and would not change a thing.

IMO


My question with this poll was a reasonable question. The overuse of icons adds NOTHING to any discussion. It is done to mock and instigate.

Watership Down
09-04-2007, 11:21 AM
And I shouldn't be deprived of the use of smilies because a certain "gang" is offended by one poster who they feel is abusing them. Turn them off, keep them on, it's your choice. :shrug:

IMO



You wouldn't be deprived of the smileys, just the abuse of them. Three, four or five is more then enough to get the point across.

RN1
09-04-2007, 11:26 AM
I think that's hilarious too, cham! Too funny! It's a good thing there isn't a poll about rudeness. Rudeness constitutes disrespecting others, & their rights to their opinions. That being said, have a nice day everyone. I'm waving to you all, but, you can't see it because, I haven't used my icons, as this is from a quotation. IMO


NW, I don't think limiting the number of icons in a post is disrespecting a posters rights to their opinions. EVERYONE has a right to their opinion. I think the smilies are kinda like an exclamation point at the end of a sentence. It indicates a person feels strongly about what was stated. And that's okay. We all have things we feel strongly about. I think all the smilies serve a purpose, as long as they're used in moderation.

rachelslaw
09-04-2007, 11:26 AM
My question with this poll was a reasonable question. The overuse of icons adds NOTHING to any discussion. It is done to mock and instigate.

That is your interpretation of a poster's motive to use multiple icons. I've seen this done by one poster on one forum and MY interpretation is that is simply the poster's style. So, since when is it "reasonable" to make an issue that effects every poster here when there may be only one or two posters that are doing this?

Unless you can show me where enough posters are abusing the smilies to warrant a change, then I submit that this is simple a way to censor the one poster that I know of, which is how a "gang" operates. How simple it would be to just ignore the one, but, from reading your previous post, it appears that you don't wish to go that route.

IMO

Isabella
09-04-2007, 11:35 AM
And I shouldn't be deprived of the use of smilies because a certain "gang" is offended by one poster who they feel is abusing them. Turn them off, keep them on, it's your choice. :shrug:

IMOI assure you I am in no gang, but honestly I haven't seen you using a ton of them in every one of your post's, I don't understand how limiting them would deprive you or anyone. I like the smiles to, but I don't see putting a limit as a bad thing. jmo

FDInLaw
09-04-2007, 11:43 AM
I voted for no limit. The limit of three icons over on CTV is annoying IMO. I don't usually use more than three, but when I quote someone else it becomes an issue. Let freedom ring I say! :patriot:

tourist#1
09-04-2007, 11:56 AM
I voted a limit of three.
You can say whatever you need to say quite adequately with three. More than that is distracting.

I don't use them often and would have no problem if they all flew the coop.

rachelslaw
09-04-2007, 11:57 AM
(snipped). We used no more then two or three and you among others complained about it. .

No Ma'am, I DID NOT COMPLAIN. You are absolutely 100% wrong on that. I kinda miss the laughing smilie and did not know what happened to it, but your accusation directed at me is way off base as I did nothing of the sort, which is a clear indication to me that you are "creating" stories to make your point.

Thanks for the lesson. :punch:

IMO

Watership Down
09-04-2007, 12:00 PM
No Ma'am, I DID NOT COMPLAIN. You are absolutely 100% wrong on that. I kinda miss the laughing smilie and did not know what happened to it, but your accusation directed at me is way off base as I did nothing of the sort, which is a clear indication to me that you are "creating" stories to make your point.

Thanks for the lesson. :punch:

IMO



I seem to recall you weighing in on the complaints. If I'm wrong I'm wrong but I'm going by memory. I don't need to create stories.

Emyo
09-04-2007, 12:41 PM
Smilies do give a poster an opportunity to display emotion. If ones emotions can not be properly addressed using 3 smilies or less, then maybe the poster needs to learn to control their emotions better, jmo.

WarmNCozy
09-04-2007, 01:00 PM
I voted for no limit. The limit of three icons over on CTV is annoying IMO. I don't usually use more than three, but when I quote someone else it becomes an issue. Let freedom ring I say! :patriot:

I'm with you!! No limit!!:)

sweetcharlotte
09-04-2007, 01:45 PM
Smilies do give a poster an opportunity to display emotion. If ones emotions can not be properly addressed using 3 smilies or less, then maybe the poster needs to learn to control their emotions better, jmo.

lol - excellent observation.


MOO MOO MO

LadyFisher
09-04-2007, 02:14 PM
I voted for the limit of 3.......because, most of us post on more than just one forum here...many of us have seen them misused on all forums...it can be distracting...it really serves no purpose to have just icons in a post without adding to the conversation! That's just my humble opinion! :)

Mrs D
09-04-2007, 02:21 PM
After reading this thread, I only have one question. If the posts bother some so much, why don't you use the ignore feature? It really is a wonderful tool.

FDInLaw
09-04-2007, 02:23 PM
After reading this thread, I only have one question. If the posts bother some so much, why don't you use the ignore feature? It really is a wonderful tool.

Great post! I totally agree. :beer:

Watership Down
09-04-2007, 02:57 PM
After reading this thread, I only have one question. If the posts bother some so much, why don't you use the ignore feature? It really is a wonderful tool.

We all know the ignore feature doesn't work. The posts are still visible when someone quotes them.

happyday
09-04-2007, 03:10 PM
After reading this thread, I only have one question. If the posts bother some so much, why don't you use the ignore feature? It really is a wonderful tool.

Bravo!! :beer:

FDInLaw
09-04-2007, 03:11 PM
We all know the ignore feature doesn't work. The posts are still visible when someone quotes them.
This is so true! Maybe we should beseech Freshwater to find someway to fix the ignore system rather that encourage her to put a limit on the smilie feature?
:shrug:

FDInLaw
09-04-2007, 03:47 PM
Asked and answered.........Ignore doesn't work when posts are quoted.

MOO MOO MO

So, why don't we see if it can be fixed? Just because there are some that find the use of icons immature or annoying, why should the rest of us have to be limited? I like hanging out here on Crime Library and don't want to see it become a carbon copy of CTV. I hate having to erase icons on a quoted post just so I can use all three if I'm in a mood to. Oh well, I've said my piece. . . I'll leave it to the powers that be. ~ FD

P.S. I do know first hand what it is like to be taunted with icons. . . check out The prayers thread for Nona Dirksmeyer. A person who has since been banned posted a long line of roses several times there while at the same time directly attacking members of Nona's family on the other threads. So, yeah, I've seen it abused. It's obvious the person did not have anything sincere to say. My sympathies to those who are experiencing the same thing.

Watership Down
09-04-2007, 04:15 PM
This is so true! Maybe we should beseech Freshwater to find someway to fix the ignore system rather that encourage her to put a limit on the smilie feature?
:shrug:





Feel free to ask.

Luke Davis
09-04-2007, 04:30 PM
I'm with you!! No limit!!:)http://bestsmileys.com/dancing/14.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/dancing/14.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/dancing/14.gifWith no limit, we could have one heck of a party! http://bestsmileys.com/marching/1.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/sports2/14.gif Even bring our pets. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/MoonChat2/dogs.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/sports2/14.gif What a crowd. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/MoonChat2/tourists.gif Invite the lurkers.http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/MoonChat2/tourists.gif

FDInLaw
09-04-2007, 04:38 PM
http://bestsmileys.com/dancing/14.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/dancing/14.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/dancing/14.gifWith no limit, we could have one heck of a party! http://bestsmileys.com/marching/1.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/sports2/14.gif Even bring our pets. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/MoonChat2/dogs.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/sports2/14.gif What a crowd. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/MoonChat2/tourists.gif Invite the lurkers.http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/MoonChat2/tourists.gif
LMBO You're too cool! See, why should this level of creativity be limited?! :biggrin:

sweetcharlotte
09-04-2007, 04:40 PM
http://bestsmileys.com/dancing/14.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/dancing/14.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/dancing/14.gifWith no limit, we could have one heck of a party! http://bestsmileys.com/marching/1.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/sports2/14.gif Even bring our pets. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/MoonChat2/dogs.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/sports2/14.gif What a crowd. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/MoonChat2/tourists.gif Invite the lurkers.http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/MoonChat2/tourists.gif


Speaking only for myself...IF all posts were as pleasant and entertaining as yours I wouldn't have a problem with multiple icons.........BUT.................
unfortunately they aren't.

MOO

Luke Davis
09-04-2007, 05:12 PM
Speaking only for myself...IF all posts were as pleasant and entertaining as yours I wouldn't have a problem with multiple icons.........BUT.................
unfortunately they aren't.

MOOIn some forums I can't use graphics. http://bestsmileys.com/weather/3.gif

Perhaps it is a security measure set up by the moderator.http://bestsmileys.com/weather/3.gif

I believe the moderator could turn off SMILEYS :hat: for the forum also.

Perhaps we could have FUN FORUMS for fun. http://bestsmileys.com/signs1/19.gif
http://bestsmileys.com/drinks/3.gif

We could also have serious forums, with no smileys.http://www.fadzter.com/smilies/lurking.gif

Who could be against that?http://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/gifs-animated/against.gif

Now, it's time for a banana!http://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/gifs-animated/banana.gif

FDInLaw
09-04-2007, 05:23 PM
In some forums I can't use graphics. http://bestsmileys.com/weather/3.gif

Perhaps it is a security measure set up by the moderator.http://bestsmileys.com/weather/3.gif

I believe the moderator could turn off SMILEYS :hat: for the forum also.

Perhaps we could have FUN FORUMS for fun. http://bestsmileys.com/signs1/19.gif
http://bestsmileys.com/drinks/3.gif

We could also have serious forums, with no smileys.http://www.fadzter.com/smilies/lurking.gif

Who could be against that?http://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/gifs-animated/against.gif

Now, it's time for a banana!http://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/gifs-animated/banana.gif

You're the man! I think this is an awesome idea! :hat:

Let this be decided on the individual forums. Please don't push for the whole board to be changed!

dallasvic
09-04-2007, 07:12 PM
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Please stop by Tara's Site And light a few candles :rose:


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/...?l=eng&gi=Tara (http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Tara)

:rose: GOD BLESS YOU ALL:rose:

As Maddie Too~~:rose:
Hey Trish,
Where do you get these candle ?
__________________
Everything is Based on JMO

If I have offend anyone with my smilies a truly sorry, But I don't do this to derail anyone.I do write to state my feeling and add extra for stronger feeling,There are so post I use none.

Hi FD & DL,

Those are great idea lets do it !!!:biggrin:

Mishell1383
09-04-2007, 08:33 PM
I do believe that, these are serious issues that involve jealousy & the need to control others. :rolleyes: Sarcasm, rudeness, constant harassment & insults, are by far worse than using icons. ;) Unfortunately, those things can't be disabled on the computer. :shrug: Read my signature line, & you'll know what I mean. :read: From now on, I won't reply with quotes, so that you can disable your smilies. It's a good idea, if others would do likewise. That way, no one has to see those icons, if they don't choose to do so. :) Total lack of respect for others & their rights, is also far more annoying than any number of icons. IMO :D :biggrin: :seeya: :patriot:
1000% AGREED! Couldn't have said it better myself.

bbornfree
09-04-2007, 08:42 PM
If anyone uses more than 12 regularly, I just ignore them


Me too, I just fly on by them. I look for the posts with some "meat", not the silly emoticons and no substance.

:chicken: :chicken: :chicken: :punch: :punch: :punch: :beer: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Mishell1383
09-04-2007, 08:43 PM
Please take a moment to look at my location and where I am from.

Also I would like to add:

Brother and sister together we'll make it through
Some day a spirit will lift you and take you down
I know you've been hurting
But I'll be the one to be there for you
And I'll be there just helping you out whenever I can

Everybody's free to feel good
Everybody's free to feel good

We all are a family that should be together as one
Helping each other instead of wasting time
Now is the moment to reach out to say to you
When everyone is sharing the hope then love will win

Cause
Everybody's free to feel good
Everybody's free to feel good


Luke, I thoroughly enjoyed your party. Did I tell you, YOU ROCK MY PAARTY WORLD!!!!! WOOT WOOT WOOT!!!

Mishell1383
09-04-2007, 08:47 PM
We could also have serious forums, with no smileys.http://www.fadzter.com/smilies/lurking.gif


<snipped> to show emphasis on the poor little lurker guy. Imagine if we were all so serious, no lurkers would want to come and join us. Maybe Lukes party will make someone feel comfortable enough to join in the convo. Or Dallasvic's :rose: . Or Fd's :seeya: or Canadian bums :eek:

I think alot of people have signature smileys and they show character. I expect a smiley at the end of some peoples post because it kind of became their trademark.

:tongue:

Watership Down
09-04-2007, 08:53 PM
I'm not saying do away with smileys completely. I just think there should be a limit on how many can be used because some posters post a line of the same smiley over and over again with little to no discussion. It is done to bait others who don't agree with the particular poster that is doing it.

Luke Davis
09-04-2007, 09:16 PM
Please take a moment to look at my location and where I am from.

Also I would like to add:

Brother and sister together we'll make it through
Some day a spirit will lift you and take you down
I know you've been hurting
But I'll be the one to be there for you
And I'll be there just helping you out whenever I can

Everybody's free to feel good
Everybody's free to feel good

We all are a family that should be together as one
Helping each other instead of wasting time
Now is the moment to reach out to say to you
When everyone is sharing the hope then love will win

Cause
Everybody's free to feel good
Everybody's free to feel good


Luke, I thoroughly enjoyed your party. Did I tell you, YOU ROCK MY PAARTY WORLD!!!!! WOOT WOOT WOOT!!!

Speaking of rocks...http://www.nh.gov/nhinfo/graphics/emblem_sm_001.gif

You http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap_travel/20070507/capt.91e27939646b4a0da4d1052b21262420.travel_brief s_ny425.jpg rock!

Mishell1383
09-04-2007, 09:20 PM
Speaking of rocks...http://www.nh.gov/nhinfo/graphics/emblem_sm_001.gif

You http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap_travel/20070507/capt.91e27939646b4a0da4d1052b21262420.travel_brief s_ny425.jpg rock!

lol your a riot
I just noticed my laughing icon is gone! :eek:
Theres one for the subject line but not for the message content itself!!! nooooooo! LOL guess I didn't use it that often. :o

Luke Davis
09-04-2007, 09:31 PM
lol your a riot
I just noticed my laughing icon is gone! :eek:
Theres one for the subject line but not for the message content itself!!! nooooooo! LOL guess I didn't use it that often. :o

http://www.atlasgeo.net/flags/animations/NewHampshire.gif

But seriously, I think there are some good reasons to allow images. For example, in the Mary Winkler Forum, we were discussing the shotgun. I wanted to post an image of the shotgun, but it isn't allowed. I could post a link to a photo. But one particular poster, doesn't trust my links.

I don't have a problem with limiting smileys and I do think they are very useful. Especially, when using sarcasm or joking. :hat:

nightwatcher
09-04-2007, 10:57 PM
That is your interpretation of a poster's motive to use multiple icons. I've seen this done by one poster on one forum and MY interpretation is that is simply the poster's style. So, since when is it "reasonable" to make an issue that effects every poster here when there may be only one or two posters that are doing this?

Unless you can show me where enough posters are abusing the smilies to warrant a change, then I submit that this is simple a way to censor the one poster that I know of, which is how a "gang" operates. How simple it would be to just ignore the one, but, from reading your previous post, it appears that you don't wish to go that route.

IMO

I totally agree with you, rachel. The icons are a form of expression & individuality. Sarcasm & rudeness, are FAR worse than any number of icons, because, that is a blatant attempt at "distraction". For that reason, I find this whole issue to be completely & absolutely, "hypocritical". IMO

nightwatcher
09-04-2007, 11:08 PM
After reading this thread, I only have one question. If the posts bother some so much, why don't you use the ignore feature? It really is a wonderful tool.

Good question, Mrs D! It makes perfect sense, really it does. IMO MOO

nightwatcher
09-04-2007, 11:14 PM
1000% AGREED! Couldn't have said it better myself.

Thanks, mishell1383! You sound like a really nice person. I'm smiling at you right now. Sending good thoughts your way too! The world needs more people like you. IMO

chambord
09-04-2007, 11:28 PM
Let's be honest here for once. Coldwater banned the laughing icon because you and your friends complained about it. Pot/kettle???

Yes. Let's be honest. CW banned them because YOU were using three gap toothed icons to heckle posts that didn't agree with you. Apparantly CW agreed that it was harassement, and disallowed them from that particular board.

moo

Riviera
09-04-2007, 11:40 PM
This thread will be locked if this continues.

Thank you
R

FDInLaw
09-05-2007, 08:18 AM
<snipped> to show emphasis on the poor little lurker guy. Imagine if we were all so serious, no lurkers would want to come and join us. Maybe Lukes party will make someone feel comfortable enough to join in the convo. Or Dallasvic's :rose: . Or Fd's :seeya: or Canadian bums :eek:

I think alot of people have signature smileys and they show character. I expect a smiley at the end of some peoples post because it kind of became their trademark.

:tongue:
Excellent point! :beer: The use of smilies (or non-use) shows personality. It brings flare and expression to a post. Why limit it to three? If someone if misusing the feature, they need to be dealt with. The system shouldn't have to change. JMO


:seeya:

Riviera ~ I'm not sure what you were commenting on. Was it just Chambord's post? Are we not suppose to continue discussing this matter? :shrug: It's on topic. :rose:

WarmNCozy
09-05-2007, 08:36 AM
http://bestsmileys.com/dancing/14.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/dancing/14.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/dancing/14.gifWith no limit, we could have one heck of a party! http://bestsmileys.com/marching/1.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/sports2/14.gif Even bring our pets. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/MoonChat2/dogs.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/sports2/14.gif What a crowd. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/MoonChat2/tourists.gif Invite the lurkers.http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/MoonChat2/tourists.gif

We could have a party room only in the Club Lounge!:cool:

sweetcharlotte
09-05-2007, 10:12 AM
OK........so I'll be honest. I love Luke Davis' icons........but only on a thread like the one WarmNCozy mentioned, i.e., CL Lounge.

I find them (and excessive use of CL's icons) to be distracting on boards where serious subject matter is being discussed, e.g., the ANS, Mary Winkler, and JonBenet boards.

MOO

FDInLaw
09-05-2007, 10:23 AM
No all comments are welcome but let's not make them personal against other members. Feedback informs decisions!

Thanks for the answer! :seeya:

Luke Davis
09-05-2007, 11:32 AM
OK........so I'll be honest. I love Luke Davis' icons........

MOOhttp://sheknows.com/graphics/emoticons/youtalkingtome.gif




Let's rock!http://sheknows.com/graphics/emoticons/band.gif

Mind if I give ya a hug?http://sheknows.com/graphics/emoticons/bearhug.gif

http://www.smiliegenerator.de/s33/smilies-19858.png

sweetcharlotte
09-05-2007, 11:33 AM
Let's rock!http://sheknows.com/graphics/emoticons/band.gif

Mind if I give ya a hug?http://sheknows.com/graphics/emoticons/bearhug.gif

http://www.smiliegenerator.de/s33/smilies-19858.png

Thank you. I needed that hug!

WarmNCozy
09-05-2007, 04:12 PM
http://www.smiliegenerator.de/s33/smilies-19956.png

DigitalDreamKat
09-06-2007, 04:17 AM
Mind if I give ya a hug?http://sheknows.com/graphics/emoticons/bearhug.gif



Ooh, hugs that make you loose weight, very cool! I'll have one of those http://smilies.vidahost.com/otn/ez/pi_thumbsup.gif

On the OP, I like smilies, as long as they aren't used excessively.

samanthajane13
09-06-2007, 04:34 PM
I voted no limit, because as adults, we should be able to reasonably monitor our own use...I very rarely use more than 2 smilies myself, but can't speak for others.

dallasvic
09-06-2007, 05:00 PM
<snipped> to show emphasis on the poor little lurker guy. Imagine if we were all so serious, no lurkers would want to come and join us. Maybe Luke's party will make someone feel comfortable enough to join in the convo. Or Dallasvic's :rose: . Or Fd's :seeya: or Canadian bums :eek:

I think alot of people have signature smileys and they show character. I expect a smiley at the end of some peoples post because it kind of became their trademark.

:tongue:

Hi Mishell.

I totally agree!!!! Sometimes I use more than usual depending on my mood or passion on the case. On the Tara & Maddie threads it is like my signature. I don't not think they show be limited do to someone else abuse of them.
Why can't that post be reported and the poster to be told by FW or Riv they were banned from using them in that thread.:shrug:
Just a idea, but what ever FW decides I will respect TOTALLY:D

dallasvic
09-06-2007, 05:26 PM
Originally Posted by nightwatcher http://boards.crimelibrary.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showthread.php?p=8969098#post8969098)
I do believe that, these are serious issues that involve jealousy & the need to control others. :rolleyes: Sarcasm, rudeness, constant harassment & insults, are by far worse than using icons. ;) Unfortunately, those things can't be disabled on the computer. :shrug: Read my signature line, & you'll know what I mean. From now on, I won't reply with quotes, so that you can disable your smilies. It's a good idea, if others would do likewise. That way, no one has to see those icons, if they don't choose to do so. :) Total lack of respect for others & their rights, is also far more annoying than any number of icons. IMO :D :biggrin: :seeya: :patriot:

Hi NW,

I totally agree with you :seeya:

dallasvic
09-06-2007, 05:42 PM
No all comments are welcome but let's not make them personal against other members. Feedback informs decisions!

Thanks for intervening & clearing that up:)

WarmNCozy
09-06-2007, 06:48 PM
OK........so I'll be honest. I love Luke Davis' icons........but only on a thread like the one WarmNCozy mentioned, i.e., CL Lounge.

I find them (and excessive use of CL's icons) to be distracting on boards where serious subject matter is being discussed, e.g., the ANS, Mary Winkler, and JonBenet boards.

MOO

I have an idea for a new thread in the CL Lounge -- Could it be called the Wild & Crazy Smilies Room? Nah or Yeah?

Zoey
09-06-2007, 07:00 PM
I have an idea for a new thread in the CL Lounge -- Could it be called the Wild & Crazy Smilies Room? Nah or Yeah?


I'm going with yeah! :)

Luke Davis
09-06-2007, 07:13 PM
I'm going with yeah! :)
Very good.http://sheknows.com/graphics/emoticons/whip.gif

WarmNCozy
09-06-2007, 07:35 PM
Very good.http://sheknows.com/graphics/emoticons/whip.gif

Of course, we will all need a course in smilies from the MASTER, Luke!;)

SPAFS
09-08-2007, 05:38 AM
Speaking only for myself...IF all posts were as pleasant and entertaining as yours I wouldn't have a problem with multiple icons.........BUT.................
unfortunately they aren't.

MOO


So it isn't icons you object to after all.

This appears a lot like what many claim, selective censorship is the movite.


imo

sweetcharlotte
09-08-2007, 06:36 AM
So it isn't icons you object to after all.

This appears a lot like what many claim, selective censorship is the movite.


imo

Perhaps you should read all of the feedback. :shrug:

SPAFS
09-08-2007, 10:47 AM
No Ma'am, I DID NOT COMPLAIN. You are absolutely 100% wrong on that. I kinda miss the laughing smilie and did not know what happened to it, but your accusation directed at me is way off base as I did nothing of the sort, which is a clear indication to me that you are "creating" stories to make your point.

Thanks for the lesson. :punch:

IMO I have seen that style myself very recently. Invent what doesn't exist. Then forbid some truths. There doesn't seem to be a fair balance does there. Ban it, silence it, censor it, deny it, smother it, punish it, control it, ... why now a vote? Is this poll suddenly an official decision maker? It isn't a sticky. I got not announcement of it's importance? If this were a problem, why didn't mgmt start the poll? Is a decision going to be made without a mass invite going out to flag members? It isn't even sticky.

I see little more than bickering from the anna threads trying to pass off as some decision maker on pretenses. Why bother to vote at all. The first icon 'disappeared' without a vote. Why not just hatchet the rest up the same way you did the first one 'you' didn't like. Why bother asking? Why now? It wasn't a problem before but because of one or two posters it somehow becomes a need for a mass vote? I see it as a ruse. Just one more issue that shows CL has become a clone, and you want clone rules. July is the key date here isn't it.

One poster that has had a known style w/icons for a long time was targeted. I feel it is important to note -- that style was never a problem for CL until this year after *July* After then, a gang developed.

I saw this gang not only allowed to exist, but encouraged! I saw this poster get harassed simply for using the same style they had used before the gang came to power. I witnessed this poster suddenly being reprimanded for using the same style that was previously allowed. Can you imagine .... reprimanded publicly for a rule that doesn't even exist! For using a style you have always used?! I can! Same thing happened to me for using bold or enlarged fonts to highlight words. There were inventions made up then too. A public reprimand (that was soon deleted) but the exact same style. The bias and connection is unmistakable! The results of this 'poll' pretense was predictable from the first post!

What is next?
Maybe we should ban polls? 10 nics and they are a farse anyway.
Or I know! Lets ban moving avatars!!! They are really annoying!
Get rid of it all! Fonts, Signatures, Avatars! Control and censorship, that's the deal! Go for abuse of power. If you don't like 'it' - Ban it, silence it, censor it, deny it, smother it, punish it, manipulate it, twist it, control it!

But ...A frog is still a frog. In the land of reality, a 'kiss' will never make it a prince no matter how many lies are told.

ALL just my OPINION of course.

rachelslaw
09-08-2007, 11:27 AM
I have seen that style myself very recently. Invent what doesn't exist. Then forbid some truths. There doesn't seem to be a fair balance does there. Ban it, silence it, censor it, deny it, smother it, punish it, control it, ... why now a vote? Is this poll suddenly an official decision maker? It isn't a sticky. I got not announcement of it's importance? If this were a problem, why didn't mgmt start the poll? Is a decision going to be made without a mass invite going out to flag members? It isn't even sticky.

I see little more than bickering from the anna threads trying to pass off as some decision maker on pretenses. Why bother to vote at all. The first icon 'disappeared' without a vote. Why not just hatchet the rest up the same way you did the first one 'you' didn't like. Why bother asking? Why now? It wasn't a problem before but because of one or two posters it somehow becomes a need for a mass vote? I see it as a ruse. Just one more issue that shows CL has become a clone, and you want clone rules. July is the key date here isn't it.

One poster that has had a known style w/icons for a long time was targeted. I feel it is important to note -- that style was never a problem for CL until this year after *July* After then, a gang developed.

I saw this gang not only allowed to exist, but encouraged! I saw this poster get harassed simply for using the same style they had used before the gang came to power. I witnessed this poster suddenly being reprimanded for using the same style that was previously allowed. Can you imagine .... reprimanded publicly for a rule that doesn't even exist! For using a style you have always used?! I can! Same thing happened to me for using bold or enlarged fonts to highlight words. There were inventions made up then too. A public reprimand (that was soon deleted) but the exact same style. The bias and connection is unmistakable! The results of this 'poll' pretense was predictable from the first post!

What is next?
Maybe we should ban polls? 10 nics and they are a farse anyway.
Or I know! Lets ban moving avatars!!! They are really annoying!
Get rid of it all! Fonts, Signatures, Avatars! Control and censorship, that's the deal! Go for abuse of power. If you don't like 'it' - Ban it, silence it, censor it, deny it, smother it, punish it, manipulate it, twist it, control it!

But ...A frog is still a frog. In the land of reality, a 'kiss' will never make it a prince no matter how many lies are told.

ALL just my OPINION of course.

Great analysis!

Since you quoted my post, allow me to elaborate. One day, while reading and posting, I found a particularly amusing post and wished to express my laughter with the use of the standard laughing icon. It was gone. I even double-checked. Nope. It ain't there. Somewhere along the line the icon was removed. I have no idea when or why as I certainly had nothing to do with it one way or the other. Next I know, some poster is accusing ME of being involved in some thread addressing its removal. Didn't happen. I was not even aware that such a thread existed.

So, we now have a thread on limiting the use of ALL icons because SOME people (who coincidently post regularly on the same forum as I do) are bothered by ONE poster who expresses herself with the use of many icons. How ridiculous is that? Fortunately we are able to actually see who "voted" on this poll, and I was surprised to see that a moderator weighed in and voted along with a group of posters from the ANS forum with a particular stance which is not in agreement with the ONE poster who uses many icons. It seems to me that this poll is created for the intent and purpose of censoring ONE poster's style, which to me suggests a "gang" mentality that I refuse to participate in. In other words, I will not vote on any poll that includes these same posters "creating" a problem where none exists.

Further, what attracted me to the CL Boards was the appearance of more openness, less censorship, the very freedom to express our opinions without being directed by the moderators as to what is an "appropriate" opinion and, so long as we are respectful to each other, without interference of that expression. Simply put, I enjoy this forum as it stands now, and any changes that would limit that expression I find offensive, especially in light of the fact that there may be only one or two posters who are deemed to have been "abusing the smileys" according to those that hold an opposing viewpoint.

In the end, the moderators will do whatever they deem appropriate and this one little poster's voice will not make any big difference. I can accept that. My laughing icon is gone and I can only "LOL" to express my amusement. Hopefully the missing icon will not effect the expression of laughter on these boards.

As to this poll to limit the use of icons altogether, that certainly is again up to the moderators, however, I would certainly hope that, although one did "voice" an opinion by voting, the moderators here would take into account the total of ALL registered members here and note the rather small percentage of the sum total who actually did vote.

IMO, as always.

FDInLaw
09-08-2007, 11:39 AM
Great analysis!

Since you quoted my post, allow me to elaborate. One day, while reading and posting, I found a particularly amusing post and wished to express my laughter with the use of the standard laughing icon. It was gone. I even double-checked. Nope. It ain't there. Somewhere along the line the icon was removed. I have no idea when or why as I certainly had nothing to do with it one way or the other. Next I know, some poster is accusing ME of being involved in some thread addressing its removal. Didn't happen. I was not even aware that such a thread existed.

So, we now have a thread on limiting the use of ALL icons because SOME people (who coincidently post regularly on the same forum as I do) are bothered by ONE poster who expresses herself with the use of many icons. How ridiculous is that? Fortunately we are able to actually see who "voted" on this poll, and I was surprised to see that a moderator weighed in and voted along with a group of posters from the ANS forum with a particular stance which is not in agreement with the ONE poster who uses many icons. It seems to me that this poll is created for the intent and purpose of censoring ONE poster's style, which to me suggests a "gang" mentality that I refuse to participate in. In other words, I will not vote on any poll that includes these same posters "creating" a problem where none exists.

Further, what attracted me to the CL Boards was the appearance of more openness, less censorship, the very freedom to express our opinions without being directed by the moderators as to what is an "appropriate" opinion and, so long as we are respectful to each other, without interference of that expression. Simply put, I enjoy this forum as it stands now, and any changes that would limit that expression I find offensive, especially in light of the fact that there may be only one or two posters who are deemed to have been "abusing the smileys" according to those that hold an opposing viewpoint.

In the end, the moderators will do whatever they deem appropriate and this one little poster's voice will not make any big difference. I can accept that. My laughing icon is gone and I can only "LOL" to express my amusement. Hopefully the missing icon will not effect the expression of laughter on these boards.

As to this poll to limit the use of icons altogether, that certainly is again up to the moderators, however, I would certainly hope that, although one did "voice" an opinion by voting, the moderators here would take into account the total of ALL registered members here and note the rather small percentage of the sum total who actually did vote.

IMO, as always. I am not personally aware of the issues that prompted the creation of this thread and poll, since I do not hang out on the thread in question. You have made some excellent points that I would like to publicly back though. :beer:

WarmNCozy
09-08-2007, 11:42 AM
Great analysis!

Since you quoted my post, allow me to elaborate. One day, while reading and posting, I found a particularly amusing post and wished to express my laughter with the use of the standard laughing icon. It was gone. I even double-checked. Nope. It ain't there. Somewhere along the line the icon was removed. I have no idea when or why as I certainly had nothing to do with it one way or the other. Next I know, some poster is accusing ME of being involved in some thread addressing its removal. Didn't happen. I was not even aware that such a thread existed.

So, we now have a thread on limiting the use of ALL icons because SOME people (who coincidently post regularly on the same forum as I do) are bothered by ONE poster who expresses herself with the use of many icons. How ridiculous is that? Fortunately we are able to actually see who "voted" on this poll, and I was surprised to see that a moderator weighed in and voted along with a group of posters from the ANS forum with a particular stance which is not in agreement with the ONE poster who uses many icons. It seems to me that this poll is created for the intent and purpose of censoring ONE poster's style, which to me suggests a "gang" mentality that I refuse to participate in. In other words, I will not vote on any poll that includes these same posters "creating" a problem where none exists.

Further, what attracted me to the CL Boards was the appearance of more openness, less censorship, the very freedom to express our opinions without being directed by the moderators as to what is an "appropriate" opinion and, so long as we are respectful to each other, without interference of that expression. Simply put, I enjoy this forum as it stands now, and any changes that would limit that expression I find offensive, especially in light of the fact that there may be only one or two posters who are deemed to have been "abusing the smileys" according to those that hold an opposing viewpoint.

In the end, the moderators will do whatever they deem appropriate and this one little poster's voice will not make any big difference. I can accept that. My laughing icon is gone and I can only "LOL" to express my amusement. Hopefully the missing icon will not effect the expression of laughter on these boards.

As to this poll to limit the use of icons altogether, that certainly is again up to the moderators, however, I would certainly hope that, although one did "voice" an opinion by voting, the moderators here would take into account the total of ALL registered members here and note the rather small percentage of the sum total who actually did vote.

IMO, as always.

You are right, rachelslaw, 47 people do not constitute representation of the members.

And you can make your own personal smilie:

http://www.smiliegenerator.com/smiliegenerator_eng.html

WarmNCozy
09-08-2007, 11:50 AM
<snip> Fortunately we are able to actually see who "voted" on this poll, and I was surprised to see that a moderator weighed in and voted along with a group of posters from the ANS forum with a particular stance which is not in agreement with the ONE poster who uses many icons.

I was surprised to find a moderator voted on this poll. Aren't the moderators supposed to be neutral on all things??? :shrug: JMO

sweetcharlotte
09-08-2007, 12:48 PM
<snip>

What is next?
Maybe we should ban polls? 10 nics and they are a farse anyway.
Or I know! Lets ban moving avatars!!! They are really annoying!
Get rid of it all! Fonts, Signatures, Avatars! Control and censorship, that's the deal! Go for abuse of power. If you don't like 'it' - Ban it, silence it, censor it, deny it, smother it, punish it, manipulate it, twist it, control it!

<snip>

ALL just my OPINION of course.


Without rules and regulations society - even in the form of a message board - tends to run amok.


MOO MOO MO

sweetcharlotte
09-08-2007, 12:50 PM
I was surprised to find a moderator voted on this poll. Aren't the moderators supposed to be neutral on all things??? :shrug: JMO


I see nothing wrong with Riviera having a opinion. That doesn't mean she can't moderate fairly under existing rules. :shrug:


MOO

rachelslaw
09-08-2007, 01:13 PM
I see nothing wrong with Riviera having a opinion. That doesn't mean she can't moderate fairly under existing rules. :shrug:


MOO

Of Course you don't see anything wrong as she voted in agreement with your vote. All moderators have opinions. They are human. I always thought that anyone in the position of moderator should be able to rise above their opinion and atleast appear impartial while doing their job, especially on issue raised by posters here that effect the administration of this forum.

The "existing rules" is what stands today which is what this thread is challenging. "Fairly", as it applies to this issue, would be stepping back and allowing the posters here to express their opinions without interference of that opinion. For a moderator to express an opinion on the subject being discussed would seem to me to be an inadvertent attempt to direct the votes in a specific direction or, should anyone like myself hold a different viewpoint and state so, such as I have, to hold ourselves out as a sort of opposition to the moderator's wishes, which may not be an enviable position to be in.

Either way, it was duly noted.

IMO

sweetcharlotte
09-08-2007, 01:22 PM
I still see nothing wrong with Riviera expressing her opinion. Lawmakers cast their votes for or against new legislation - doesn't mean they won't support/enforce if their "side" doesn't win. :shrug:

MOO MOO MO

Mrs D
09-08-2007, 01:51 PM
I see nothing wrong with Riviera having a opinion. That doesn't mean she can't moderate fairly under existing rules. :shrug:


MOO

Methinks you would be singing a different tune if the mod had voted differently.

It's been my opinion from the start that this poll had nothing to do with smilies. It was an attempt to embarrass a poster that irritated some with her posts.

And, I stand by my suggestion to use the ignore feature. Yes, you can see posts when they are quoted. Big deal. I've had some of the posters on this thread on ignore for a while. When someone quotes them, I can either read the quote or make the choice to scroll past it. We're adults here. No one forces us to read anything.

sweetcharlotte
09-08-2007, 02:19 PM
Methinks you would be singing a different tune if the mod had voted differently.

<snip>


Sorry, you're wrong. I'm adult, Riviera is an adult. I voted, she voted.

Would you be singing a different tune if Riviera had voted differently?

:shrug:

aam
09-08-2007, 02:25 PM
Methinks you would be singing a different tune if the mod had voted differently.

It's been my opinion from the start that this poll had nothing to do with smilies. It was an attempt to embarrass a poster that irritated some with her posts.

And, I stand by my suggestion to use the ignore feature. Yes, you can see posts when they are quoted. Big deal. I've had some of the posters on this thread on ignore for a while. When someone quotes them, I can either read the quote or make the choice to scroll past it. We're adults here. No one forces us to read anything.

:beer:

Good post, Mrs D.

I get distracted and annoyed with some of the avators. I haven't complained, I just turned OFF the avators and problem solved. I don't think the board should change to rules because something bothers me.

As you pointed out there are other simple solutions - turn them off, ignore or just scroll past.

Just my honest opinion.

rachelslaw
09-08-2007, 03:00 PM
Sorry, you're wrong. I'm adult, Riviera is an adult. I voted, she voted.

Would you be singing a different tune if Riviera had voted differently?

:shrug:

Do we really want to "go there"?. IIRC Riviera is a member moderator, that is to say that she posts on this forum under her own nic, then moderates under the Riviera nic. Nobody but Freshwater knows who she is, and I'm fine with that.

What I am saying is this. While she uses her own nic, she is certainly free to vote or not vote, to post or not post, and to enjoy all the freedoms that the rest of us enjoy. However, when she is using her moderator nic, she should be impartial and not participate in votes that effect us, the posters. Since we are all aware that a "member moderator" is, at times, "one of us" why use the nic associated with that authority and not the regular poster nic that only Freshwater knows who it is?

Two nics, One Vote, Why use the "moderator" one to indicate her preference.

:shrug:

IMO

sweetcharlotte
09-08-2007, 03:42 PM
My recommendation is that you take your concerns up with Freshwater.


MOO

Mrs D
09-08-2007, 04:05 PM
Sorry, you're wrong. I'm adult, Riviera is an adult. I voted, she voted.

Would you be singing a different tune if Riviera had voted differently?

:shrug:

I'm not singing at all. I find it interesting that you chose to snip most of my post.

Since you posted that you don't have a problem with the use of smilies when YOU find them pleasant, this part of my post is most appropriate:

It's been my opinion from the start that this poll had nothing to do with smilies. It was an attempt to embarrass a poster that irritated some with her posts.

If posters on these boards started polls every time someone made a post that bothered them in some way, FW would have to open an area just for polls. Thankfully, the majority of posters here choose to accept the responsibility that they are in control of what they read and what they don't.

sweetcharlotte
09-08-2007, 04:10 PM
I'm not singing at all. I find it interesting that you chose to snip most of my post.

Since you posted that you don't have a problem with the use of smilies when YOU find them pleasant, this part of my post is most appropriate:



If posters on these boards started polls every time someone made a post that bothered them in some way, FW would have to open an area just for polls. Thankfully, the majority of posters here choose to accept the responsibility that they are in control of what they read and what they don't.


Freshwater welcomes input from the community. :shrug:

Mrs D
09-08-2007, 04:21 PM
Freshwater welcomes input from the community. :shrug:

I made the choice when I joined here to accept the responsibility of deciding what I read and what I don't. I don't feel it's necessary for me to run to FW every time someone posts something that I don't want to read.

sweetcharlotte
09-08-2007, 04:27 PM
I made the choice when I joined here to accept the responsibility of deciding what I read and what I don't. I don't feel it's necessary for me to run to FW every time someone posts something that I don't want to read.

Great! :beer:

FDInLaw
09-08-2007, 04:27 PM
Without rules and regulations society - even in the form of a message board - tends to run amok.


MOO MOO MO
Absolutely. And let me add, oppressive and tyrannical rules that only serve the need of a few exasperate the masses and cause social unrest. :D

Seriously, like with all things, there is a healthy balance. Squelching creativity is not the answer.

JMHO

sweetcharlotte
09-08-2007, 04:32 PM
Absolutely. And let me add, oppressive and tyrannical rules that only serve the need of a few exasperate the masses and cause social unrest. :D

Seriously, like with all things, there is a healthy balance. Squelching creativity is not the answer.

JMHO
:biggrin: Do :patriot: you;) call:) this:eek: creative?

:seeya: :beer: :biggrin: :rolleyes:

FDInLaw
09-08-2007, 04:35 PM
:biggrin: Do :patriot: you;) call:) this:eek: creative?

:seeya: :beer: :biggrin: :rolleyes:

Sure do! How cute is that! :biggrin: Under the purposed, you would have been limited to three icons. . . that would have been a shame!

sweetcharlotte
09-08-2007, 05:37 PM
Sure do! How cute is that! :biggrin: Under the purposed, you would have been limited to three icons. . . that would have been a shame!


I wasn't on the JonBenet, Laci Peterson, or ANS board. Big difference - IMO.

I'm finished with this. Have at it. :seeya:

Athena
09-08-2007, 05:38 PM
If anyone uses more than 12 :hat: regularly, I just ignore them.:punch: :seeya: :eek: :shrug: :read:

Oops! Almost ignored you however you were under the limit. LOL

I voted 3 -- I believe 3 is more than enough and agree that a row of smilies across a post adds nothing to the discussion. I couldn't add smilies to my post because you took my allowance!!!! so I had to delete a couple of yours.

:chicken: :cuss: :D:

FDInLaw
09-08-2007, 05:59 PM
Oops! Almost ignored you however you were under the limit. LOL

I voted 3 -- I believe 3 is more than enough and agree that a row of smilies across a post adds nothing to the discussion. I couldn't add smilies to my post because you took my allowance!!!! so I had to delete a couple of yours.

:chicken: :cuss: :D:
(You all are gonna hate me for pointing this out. . . AGAIN)

With the purposed limit, you would have had to delete all of Luke's smilies in order to quote him and use smilies of your own. . . am I the only one that finds this annoying over on CTV?
:confused:

Watership Down
09-08-2007, 07:05 PM
I'm not singing at all. I find it interesting that you chose to snip most of my post.

Since you posted that you don't have a problem with the use of smilies when YOU find them pleasant, this part of my post is most appropriate:



If posters on these boards started polls every time someone made a post that bothered them in some way, FW would have to open an area just for polls. Thankfully, the majority of posters here choose to accept the responsibility that they are in control of what they read and what they don't.




I wonder if you had these same problems with the poll about the rep feature? Or is it just a poll started by someone who disagrees with you? :rolleyes:

RichUnclePennyw
09-08-2007, 07:28 PM
I voted 3 is enough because for me one is enough but I wasn't given that as a choice.

WarmNCozy
09-08-2007, 07:31 PM
I voted 3 is enough because for me one is enough but I wasn't given that as a choice.

In the lounge, 3 would be very limiting! That's where you can take a break from the serious topics, and have a little fun!:hat:

bbornfree
09-08-2007, 08:21 PM
Sorry, you're wrong. I'm adult, Riviera is an adult. I voted, she voted.

Would you be singing a different tune if Riviera had voted differently?

:shrug:

Absolutely she would be singing praise lol.

I respect the moderator's choice either way, it's none of my beez wax, it's not like we're asking for side picking, no one asked her to vote, she has an opinion too when it comes to civility among the forums, duh! All this over smileys?

I think anyone who does not understand this issue of excessive icons has never posted with a likes of a few on ANS forum. That particular forum draws a certain kind and I don't think the icons are an issue on other threads like that one. I know most will "get" what I'm saying lol.

bbornfree
09-08-2007, 08:25 PM
Absolutely. And let me add, oppressive and tyrannical rules that only serve the need of a few exasperate the masses and cause social unrest. :D

Seriously, like with all things, there is a healthy balance. Squelching creativity is not the answer.

JMHO

Creativity? Creative people, draw, sing, invent things, write, those are creative. Sticking a line of ten icons in a row to be obnoxious with nothing to say is NOT creative.

DigitalDreamKat
09-08-2007, 08:26 PM
I think anyone who does not understand this issue of excessive icons has never posted with a likes of a few on ANS forum. That particular forum draws a certain kind and I don't think the icons are an issue on other threads like that one. I know most will "get" what I'm saying lol.

Well, I guess that make sense, ANS was an excessive person, I'm sure she would have truly appreciated the excessive icons, IMO ;)

WarmNCozy
09-08-2007, 08:29 PM
Absolutely she would be singing praise lol.

I respect the moderator's choice either way, it's none of my beez wax, it's not like we're asking for side picking, no one asked her to vote, she has an opinion too when it comes to civility among the forums, duh! All this over smileys?

I think anyone who does not understand this issue of excessive icons has never posted with a likes of a few on ANS forum. That particular forum draws a certain kind and I don't think the icons are an issue on other threads like that one. I know most will "get" what I'm saying lol.

I totally agree with you: in serious threads I don't see the need for more than one at the end, if at all! But by limiting the smilies in the CL Lounge, which is a place to talk to fellow posters, and be silly, you take away the lightheartedness of the place and make it a serious discussion!

I'm rambling ... but this poll is just a "what if" RIGHT???????

JMO

GSDSRULE
09-08-2007, 08:55 PM
I voted for no limit. The limit of three icons over on CTV is annoying IMO. I don't usually use more than three, but when I quote someone else it becomes an issue. Let freedom ring I say! :patriot:

I'm with you! No Limits! How petty can some people be?

CPR
09-08-2007, 09:07 PM
Tellin other folks what to do is purdy annoying! imo

Serenity4me
09-08-2007, 09:19 PM
We all know the ignore feature doesn't work. The posts are still visible when someone quotes them.

We should all try to tolerate our differences, if someone chooses to use 12 icons, that's up to them,sure doesn't bother me and if it did, I'd ignore them, we all have our own ignore buttons as well and I don't mean the ignore feature, I've had to use my ignore button many times and scroll on by insulting words, derogatory words, etc. Should be no limit, it's such a moot subject.

:patriot:

JMO

WarmNCozy
09-08-2007, 09:40 PM
Yup just trying to get member feedback on this issue

Thank you Freshwater for clarifying that! WOO HOO:hat:

One2Snoop
09-09-2007, 03:35 AM
I voted and never made a comment. I don't have a problem with anyone using smilies. I voted the 3 limit because I'd like to see someone add something to the conversation other than smilies. I remember not to long ago, I think after CL and CTV split we had a limit on the number of smilies we could use. At first it irritated me, but the longer I've been here the less I think about this as an option. I use most of the smileys available, but never more than a few at a time, at least I try to keep it to only a few.
I have to admit I never liked that laughing smiley - it just didn't sit well with me for whatever reason. I don't like making fun of someones post and thats what it reminded me of. IMO, JMO

dallasvic
09-09-2007, 05:43 AM
I have an idea for a new thread in the CL Lounge -- Could it be called the Wild & Crazy Smilies Room? Nah or Yeah?

:seeya: Hi WNC,

You have my vote:patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

dallasvic
09-09-2007, 06:51 AM
I voted and never made a comment. I don't have a problem with anyone using smilies. I voted the 3 limit because I'd like to see someone add something to the conversation other than smilies. I remember not to long ago, I think after CL and CTV split we had a limit on the number of smilies we could use. At first it irritated me, but the longer I've been here the less I think about this as an option. I use most of the smileys available, but never more than a few at a time, at least I try to keep it to only a few.
I have to admit I never liked that laughing smiley - it just didn't sit well with me for whatever reason. I don't like making fun of someones post and thats what it reminded me of. IMO, JMO

:seeya: Hi Everyone & O2S,

I agree with you on wanting to see more conversation. I voted no limit for the simple reason I do use more than 3 on some post , but not to annoy others are be sarcastic. I use them for example : Tara and Maddies threads.
O2S you have seen my post there. I get pos. reps for my post there also. They are done with care and compassion for Tara& Maddie and they families.
I do post other places and there I might only use one or two.
If someone thinks that another poster is abusing there icons why can't they be reported by using the triangle and let FW handle it.:shrug:
Don't punish others for a few peoples abuse of this.

Athena
09-09-2007, 11:51 AM
(You all are gonna hate me for pointing this out. . . AGAIN)

With the purposed limit, you would have had to delete all of Luke's smilies in order to quote him and use smilies of your own. . . am I the only one that finds this annoying over on CTV?
:confused:

Just want to clarify as I'm reading some of the other comments -- I have no idea why this poll was created so it's nothing personal. I just find that IMO 12 smilies are a bit much.

FDInLaw
09-09-2007, 04:07 PM
Just want to clarify as I'm reading some of the other comments -- I have no idea why this poll was created so it's nothing personal. I just find that IMO 12 smilies are a bit much.Awww. . . you changed your post. :(

I agree, I don't think I've ever used 12 smiles. My point it that three is too few. How about seven as a limit if there need be a limit? :shrug:

One2Snoop
09-11-2007, 02:49 AM
With no limit, we could have one heck of a party! http://bestsmileys.com/marching/1.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/sports2/14.gif Even bring our pets. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/MoonChat2/dogs.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/sports2/14.gif What a crowd. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/MoonChat2/tourists.gif Invite the lurkers.http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/MoonChat2/tourists.gif


Too funny Luke - You certainly deserve more than the allowed number of smileys for your post above! So sorry, I had to cut some of yours out in order to give you the praise you deserved. (Insert) "Biggrin" here LOL!

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WarmNCozy
09-11-2007, 02:39 PM
Too funny Luke - You certainly deserve more than the allowed number of smileys for your post above! So sorry, I had to cut some of yours out in order to give you the praise you deserved. (Insert) "Biggrin" here LOL!

http://i1.tinypic.com/5y7axix.gifhttp://i1.tinypic.com/5y7axix.gifhttp://i1.tinypic.com/5y7axix.gifhttp://i1.tinypic.com/5y7axix.gif

Your smilies are pretty cute, One1Snoop:patriot:

Bailey Boys
09-14-2007, 10:56 PM
That is your interpretation of a poster's motive to use multiple icons. I've seen this done by one poster on one forum and MY interpretation is that is simply the poster's style. So, since when is it "reasonable" to make an issue that effects every poster here when there may be only one or two posters that are doing this?

Unless you can show me where enough posters are abusing the smilies to warrant a change, then I submit that this is simple a way to censor the one poster that I know of, which is how a "gang" operates. How simple it would be to just ignore the one, but, from reading your previous post, it appears that you don't wish to go that route.

IMO

I'm just trying to figure out why this was even started, given that I see a certain poster doing this :punch: :punch: :punch: :punch: ALOT!

deputydi
09-15-2007, 04:46 PM
We all know the ignore feature doesn't work. The posts are still visible when someone quotes them.
I absolutely, positively ADORE your avatar!

As for the smilies, I haven't seen much abuse of them. Sometimes it is necessary to use them to indicate you are joking, puzzled, dissatisfied, etc. Written words are not always understood in their proper context.