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TuscanDreams
08-25-2007, 04:48 PM
A movie is on tonight on Lifetime regarding the death of Princess Diana. Would anyone like to discuss this? I thought Diana died of a car accident, not a homicide.
Your thoughts?
HowardLovedAnna
08-25-2007, 09:29 PM
Hi :)
I am English and yes she died of a car crash cos of an alleged very drunk driver and the fact that she didnt have a seat belt on. Dodi didnt wear one either and the only one that did wear one was in fact Trevor Rhys Jones and admittedly he was very badly injured BUT he was the only one to survive.
Dodi's father Mohammed Al Fayed (owner of Harrods ) won't accept this tho and claims that Diana was pregnant by Dodi and that they was to get married and that allegedly the Royal Family didnt want the Princes to have a Arab step father and so the crash was "fixed".
WarmNCozy
08-25-2007, 11:20 PM
It took actual events and added facts and fiction! I think for just a story before the anniversary of her death!
starlite
08-26-2007, 01:09 AM
I didn't get to watch the movie tonight, but a few years ago I read the book,and IIRC, Diana had a suspicion that the royal family were going to have her killed.
I always thought Diana was a very lovely person, she deserved so much better than Charles! jmo
HowardLovedAnna
08-26-2007, 04:12 AM
I didn't get to watch the movie tonight, but a few years ago I read the book,and IIRC, Diana had a suspicion that the royal family were going to have her killed.
I always thought Diana was a very lovely person, she deserved so much better than Charles! jmo
Apparently she thought Charles or the Duke of Edinburgh wanted her dead yes.
I really have no idea what i think in all honesty. From the videos and pictures of Henri Paul walking out of the Ritz he doesnt seem anywhere as near drunk as they claim he was for sure. He seemed sober and in a report i saw it said the figures in his autopsy if they had been correct he wouldnt have been able to walk let alone drive. For many years i believed she was murdered and for sure its worked out better for Charles and Camilla this way.
Incidentally last Wednesday i was in Paris at the tunnel where they died. There is a shrine with her photo on above the tunnel and people have put flowers etc on it. It was kinda touching to see :)
Mishell1383
08-26-2007, 07:03 AM
I thought the paparazzi were speeding to catch up to her, and they caused the crash. Also I read that a white car had clipped or the mercedes clipped the white car, causing it to hit the pillar. "French police are still seeking the driver of a white Fiat Uno believed to have been clipped by the Mercedes in the Alma underpass shortly before its final crash. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/53752.stm
sallynuts
08-26-2007, 11:09 AM
why are we still talking about this???
is it like JFK>>>????
there will never be an answer that will satisfy the majority... because,, know one really knows what happened,,... we can speculate,, till we die,,, we will never know the absolute truth,,,what we know is that
she was a beautiful woman,, in every sense,, and she will never be forgotten....
:rose:
Mishell1383
08-26-2007, 11:41 AM
why are we still talking about this???
is it like JFK>>>????
there will never be an answer that will satisfy the majority... because,, know one really knows what happened,,... we can speculate,, till we die,,, we will never know the absolute truth,,,what we know is that
she was a beautiful woman,, in every sense,, and she will never be forgotten....
:rose:
Because we can...
TuscanDreams
08-26-2007, 04:25 PM
The movie was horrible, acting wise, and I'm a Lifetime TV addict. :o
Interesting questions were brought up, however. Was there a white car in the tunnel that wasn't located after the crash?
I watched the Martin Brashear (spelling?) documentary that aired prior to the movie. Diana eluded that the royal family had a plot against her, but I'm not sure I buy into that or not.
TuscanDreams
08-26-2007, 04:27 PM
Apparently she thought Charles or the Duke of Edinburgh wanted her dead yes.
I really have no idea what i think in all honesty. From the videos and pictures of Henri Paul walking out of the Ritz he doesnt seem anywhere as near drunk as they claim he was for sure. He seemed sober and in a report i saw it said the figures in his autopsy if they had been correct he wouldnt have been able to walk let alone drive. For many years i believed she was murdered and for sure its worked out better for Charles and Camilla this way.
Incidentally last Wednesday i was in Paris at the tunnel where they died. There is a shrine with her photo on above the tunnel and people have put flowers etc on it. It was kinda touching to see :)
Thank you for posting this about the tunnel, I'm a fan of Princess Diana, as she was an advocate for peace and land mine removal.
What was Henri Paul's alcohol level, if anyone knows.
Mishell1383
08-26-2007, 04:47 PM
Thank you for posting this about the tunnel, I'm a fan of Princess Diana, as she was an advocate for peace and land mine removal.
What was Henri Paul's alcohol level, if anyone knows.
"Henri Paul, driver in Paris crash that killed Diana, Princess of Wales had level of alcohol produced by drinking eight or nine glasses of wine, more than three times legal limit in France; latest test reportedly shows 0.18 percent alcohol level and traces of anti-depressant drugs that could have compounded effect"
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00B17FF3E5D0C738DDDA00894DF494D 81&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fPeople%2fP%2f Paul%2c%20Henri
IMO I do not believe it was a murder plot against Diana, as with car accidents, you cannot guarantee death, and why take 3 others possibly a fourth OR MORE, with the ONE you want murdered?
I think Henri was under the influence of alcohol and got discombobulated by paparazzi and camera flashes, I also think another car was involved in the accident but took off...
Mishell1383
08-26-2007, 04:55 PM
The movie was horrible, acting wise, and I'm a Lifetime TV addict. :o
Interesting questions were brought up, however. Was there a white car in the tunnel that wasn't located after the crash?
I watched the Martin Brashear (spelling?) documentary that aired prior to the movie. Diana eluded that the royal family had a plot against her, but I'm not sure I buy into that or not.
LOL I'm a Lifetime addict too!
I found this
"According to the police report, just past the tunnel exit, they were passed by a white Fiat Uno, the source said. The man said he recognized the car model because his mother-in-law had the same one.
The car's exhaust pipe was making a loud noise as if it had been damaged, and the driver was driving abnormally -- "zigzagging" -- and then cut off the couple's car, the witnesses were quoted as saying.
The Fiat's driver was "a European type," about 40 years old, with brown hair, the witnesses said. In the back seat of his car was a large dog. "
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9712/31/diana/index.html
TuscanDreams
08-26-2007, 06:49 PM
I think it was a horrible accident and now that I know Diana wasn't wearing a seatbelt, that explains her death.
However, I think that few members of the royal family, aside from her sons, grieved her passing.
Sunset
08-27-2007, 08:36 AM
In my opinion she was murdered. Henri Paul was a professional security guard, he wouldn't have been drinking on the job. And it's interesting to say the least that the sole survivor doesn't 'remember' anything...... Just my opinion though.
I loved Diana... still do.
Mishell1383
08-29-2007, 01:39 PM
In my opinion she was murdered. Henri Paul was a professional security guard, he wouldn't have been drinking on the job. And it's interesting to say the least that the sole survivor doesn't 'remember' anything...... Just my opinion though.
I loved Diana... still do.
The soul survivor, had 150 fractures in his face, and it was flattened. A top surgeon had to piece his face and skull together using photographs. You think he doesn't 'remember' because he doesn't want too? Why would anyone let their face and head get destroyed on purpose? That makes no sense. There were to many people in the car for her to be murdered, and there are far more "guaranteed" ways to pull off a murder. imo
TuscanDreams
08-29-2007, 07:24 PM
I'm not a "crier" by nature, but I cried when Princess Diana died. She meant so much to so many people and my heart broke for her 2 young sons.
Accident or not, Diana was a hero. :rose:
rachelslaw
08-31-2007, 10:40 AM
I'm not a "crier" by nature, but I cried when Princess Diana died. She meant so much to so many people and my heart broke for her 2 young sons.
Accident or not, Diana was a hero. :rose:
I cried as well. She came off as a very loving, warm and friendly person.
For Diana, Princess of Wales :rose:
starlite
09-01-2007, 11:13 PM
Apparently she thought Charles or the Duke of Edinburgh wanted her dead yes.
I really have no idea what i think in all honesty. From the videos and pictures of Henri Paul walking out of the Ritz he doesnt seem anywhere as near drunk as they claim he was for sure. He seemed sober and in a report i saw it said the figures in his autopsy if they had been correct he wouldnt have been able to walk let alone drive. For many years i believed she was murdered and for sure its worked out better for Charles and Camilla this way.
Incidentally last Wednesday i was in Paris at the tunnel where they died. There is a shrine with her photo on above the tunnel and people have put flowers etc on it. It was kinda touching to see :)
I don't have the book anymore,and it's been a few years back when i read it, so I can't recall most of it, but I do recall that after I had read the book that I was very suspicious that it could have been a murder.I didn't think HP appeared to be that intoxicated either,so I really don't know what to think.There certainly wasn't any love in that marriage and the royal family didn't like Diana,so she probaly had valid reasons to be suspicious.
JMO
seeing the tunnel with her picture and the flowers would be a very touching experience.
raven
10-18-2007, 06:06 AM
I think it was a terrible accident too.
She was a lovely lady, but extremely mixed up - probably at least partly due to her relationship with Charles and the rest of the royal family. She certainly wasn't perfect - she had had a string of affairs and there is still the question as to whether Charles is Harry's father. But she did a lot of charity and humanitarian work and was liked all the more for her human flaws.
WarmNCozy
10-21-2007, 11:26 AM
Another drunk driver takes the life of this beautiful woman.
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Rheanna
11-07-2007, 11:50 PM
:rose: Would've been nice to see Princess Di as a Queen.. Sad.. RIP DI :rose:
Mysteri
11-14-2007, 03:35 PM
I didn't get to watch the movie tonight, but a few years ago I read the book,and IIRC, Diana had a suspicion that the royal family were going to have her killed.
I always thought Diana was a very lovely person, she deserved so much better than Charles! jmo
True !!
A member of M 16 came to Diana and told her there was a plot to eliminate her so that Charles could marry Camilla Parker Bowles....that was approximately a year before the fatal crash. Diana wrote about this plot in a letter to Paul Burrell which helped to initiiate the Inquest after so many years.
If you read Trvor Rees Jones ( The Bodyguard's Story ) book , you will learn that Henri Paul was NOT drunk and Trevor di NOT war a seat belt because he had removed it to talk with Dodi and Diana in the back seat....he was in the passenger seat.
At the last minute another vehicle was substituted, the exit they had to take was Closed Off forcing them into the tunnel where the the security lights and cameras had been dismantled.
The most likely chain of events it that Henri Pual who had large sums of cash deposited in several Swiss accounts thought he was part of a Kidnap Plot and not that a car crash was planned. British agents have explained that a bright white light ( there are witnesses to it at the inquest ) was shone in the driver's face as he entered the tunnel. It blinded him and the crash ensued.
Emad 'Dodi' Al Fayed father's Mohammed has always insisted that Prince Philip was a Nazi and was determined to prevent Diana from marrying his Egyptian son. Of course Diana had no intentions of marrying Dodi and there was no engagement and no pregnancy. ( Verified by the Coroner and Diana's Friends and Family ) ALL Invented by Mohammed Al Fayed to fit his version.
Charles is the only one who benefitted from the death of Diana. There was even a scheme called Operation C PB to make it possible for him to wed Camilla. Now he has done so and refuses to testify at the inquest and because of his privilege, he doesn't have to. The Queen was able to stop two trials a couple of years ago to protect him. ( It came out that he was selling off royal presents and not reporting the income from it and also that he was deeply involved with his former valet, Michael Fawcett. Camilla is said to ''adore' Fawcett as much as Charles does.) The Queen hasn't been able to stop the inquest but has been able to block certain witnesses from testifying, Charles among them.
http://www.londonnet.co.uk/ln/talk/news/diana_conspiracy_news.html#crash
CHARLES is the person named in this letter and it will be presented as Evidence at the on-going inquest in London
PAPERS name Charles as Death Plot thickens:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/01/06/1073268043277.html
Charles and Micahel Fawcett with C PB
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/11/08/1068243307798.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2843499.stm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/07/earlyshow/living/main582414.shtml
DIANA would have never ever allowed herself to be driven by a person who was drunk and she spoke with Paul in the hotel before they departed...film shows him bending over , tying his shoelace with ease...a person that drunk ( as they say he was ) couldn't stand up !!
imo
Angie1960
11-14-2007, 03:49 PM
why are we still talking about this???
is it like JFK>>>????
there will never be an answer that will satisfy the majority... because,, know one really knows what happened,,... we can speculate,, till we die,,, we will never know the absolute truth,,,what we know is that
she was a beautiful woman,, in every sense,, and she will never be forgotten....
:rose:
If there was a conspiracy it should definately be dealt with - either way she was murdered - either by the conspiracy or the paparazzi. :mad:
Mysteri
11-14-2007, 05:12 PM
If there was a conspiracy it should definately be dealt with - either way she was murdered - either by the conspiracy or the paparazzi. :mad:
And of course we're still talking about it because an Inquest into her death is going on RIGHT NOW in London.
roamer
11-18-2007, 08:16 PM
My own opinion is that the murder plot came from Dodi's father, and the rumors have flown ever since.
I've been involved with families of drunk drivers for many years, and there is just no excuse for the heartbreak this one, careless act can cause. It was said he was a heavy drinker, plus took pills, and you build up a tolerance to both. People may have thought he was normal that night.
Papparazzi chasing them may have been part of it, even the other car. Until I see proven fact otherwise, I think she was killed by a drunk driver. Just a remeinder that these things don't always happen to bad people, but to anyone unfortunate enough to be in a car either with them, or hit by them.
Diana had a beautiful soul, and many will miss her forever.
packy
11-19-2007, 06:37 PM
It's always bothered me that the security lights and cameras had been out of order and I thought it was said that the police radios or signals weren't operating right either that night. If that is true it seems fishy.
Mysteri
11-20-2007, 11:41 AM
It's always bothered me that the security lights and cameras had been out of order and I thought it was said that the police radios or signals weren't operating right either that night. If that is true it seems fishy.
Not to mention the Exit they wished to use was blocked, thus forcing them to Enter the tunnel which was not part of the usual route.
imo
Angie1960
11-20-2007, 12:41 PM
Not to mention the Exit they wished to use was blocked, thus forcing them to Enter the tunnel which was not part of the usual route.
imo
There is more than enough evil in this world for consipiracies to exist, not to mention that royalty & governments are often paranoid. They probably believed she could really cause them harm. No matter that she was not the type to cause harm but she was one who matured into a humanitarian and wanted nothing but to make the world a better place!
lexcat
11-20-2007, 03:30 PM
This is another good cite to go to as well, it give you all kinds of different links to what has happened and what is going on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Diana,_Princess_of_Wales
etphoto
12-15-2007, 11:19 AM
DI was murdered by the same people who killed JFK, blew up the World Trade Center, shot the missile into the Pentagon, shot down TWA Flight 800 with a missile and seen Bigfoot in Ohio. Or, just maybe, she died in an auto crash just like 10s of thousands of others across the world each year.
ET
brandi43
03-13-2008, 11:28 PM
Just my opioion; If someone wanted someone else dead...I doubt they would "fix" a car accident..just can not be done. The variables are just way to many..We have all see car crash photo's where a vehicle is totally demolished beyond recognition...yet...the passengers escaped unscathed or with very minor injuries to the absolute dismay of rescuers, police and anyone else watching the news. We have also seen situations where the vehicle damage is negligible, yet all passengers died or 1 died and 5 lived, or 5 died and 1 lived. There is absolutely no way to plan a "vehicle accident" and be 100% sure of who will die in that accident. Like another poster said, she was a beautiful person inside and out, and gave of herself willingly for the good of others.
Hi :)
I am English and yes she died of a car crash cos of an alleged very drunk driver and the fact that she didnt have a seat belt on. Dodi didnt wear one either and the only one that did wear one was in fact Trevor Rhys Jones and admittedly he was very badly injured BUT he was the only one to survive.
Dodi's father Mohammed Al Fayed (owner of Harrods ) won't accept this tho and claims that Diana was pregnant by Dodi and that they was to get married and that allegedly the Royal Family didnt want the Princes to have a Arab step father and so the crash was "fixed".
Joseph Bell
03-14-2008, 03:31 AM
Hi. Like many others I remember where i was when I heard Diana had died. With the inquest bringing forth no startlingly new evidence, it remains obvious that she was killed in a tragic crash, in a car driven by a drunk or drug or both influenced driver. The whole situation just had disaster written all over it. i think she was tired and fed up and wanted to go home to see her kids. i think he was hanging on to her and was losing the plot. The bodyguards say they were hampered from doing their job properly because of Dodi. Well they would say that, wouldn't they. if you read the correspondence between Phillip and Diana there was no animosity between them. I would think that if MI5 or whoever really wanted to terminate someone, they would choose a better plot than a car crash which might or might not be fatal.
Cheers:)
LuAnna99
03-19-2008, 01:08 PM
It could've been set up. I love a good conspiracy theory and all the elements are there, a missing witness conflicting testimony about the driver and a royal family who shunned her. It may have been an accident but there is a lurking possibility of conspiracy. besides government is always creating "accidentally beneficial" situations for itself.
Joseph Bell
03-20-2008, 03:45 AM
Hi
The only person Diana was 'murdered' by was the drunk and drugged Henri Paul. There was no conspiracy. Why would anyone want to kill her? She was the mother to the bar one King of England. She wanted an 'ordinary' life and she couldn't have one because of who she was. I don't think for one moment that Diana wanted to become an ordinary person again. She liked being the POW and why shouldn't she? The problem was she entrusted her safety to people who couldn't provide it. And no, I'm not forgetting those leech like paps in Paris. I wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire.
Cheers
LindaA
03-29-2008, 07:54 AM
I don't think it was a murder either. Unfortunately Diana was, IMO, an emotionally disturbed woman who was singularly unsuited to be in the position she was with the royal family. It is probably for the best that she never came to be Queen Consort. I thnk both Charles & Diana were in untenable positions while they were married. JMO. Don't shoot me.
SaraSidle
03-29-2008, 10:37 AM
Hi
The only person Diana was 'murdered' by was the drunk and drugged Henri Paul. There was no conspiracy. Why would anyone want to kill her? She was the mother to the bar one King of England. She wanted an 'ordinary' life and she couldn't have one because of who she was. I don't think for one moment that Diana wanted to become an ordinary person again. She liked being the POW and why shouldn't she? The problem was she entrusted her safety to people who couldn't provide it. And no, I'm not forgetting those leech like paps in Paris. I wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire.
Cheers
Excellent post.
Angie1960
03-31-2008, 12:55 PM
I don't think it was a murder either. Unfortunately Diana was, IMO, an emotionally disturbed woman who was singularly unsuited to be in the position she was with the royal family. It is probably for the best that she never came to be Queen Consort. I thnk both Charles & Diana were in untenable positions while they were married. JMO. Don't shoot me.
Well then IMO I think we need plenty more unsuitable, emotionally disturbed people in this world. Just think of all the good they could do - like Diana.
You must know her very well. Just what are the qualities of a "Queen Consort" today - Are they not figureheads? I would think the qualifications to be Royal in the UK are poise and a nice speaking voice - Kind of like a Star Search Spokesmodel. JMHO
Joseph Bell
04-01-2008, 04:35 AM
Hi. I am a great admirer of Diana. She was only a human being and like all of us she had her good side and her bad side. I think that her charity work was exceptional and the way she could relate to many different people was emplary. Would she have made a great queen consort? IMP definitely yes.
As I've posted, i do not for one minute believe there was a conspiracy to kill her.
I hope she rests in the peace she didn't have here.
Bye
Drumbum
05-07-2008, 06:22 AM
It was an accident. Rest in peace. :rose:
LindaA
05-07-2008, 07:35 AM
Well then IMO I think we need plenty more unsuitable, emotionally disturbed people in this world. Just think of all the good they could do - like Diana.
You must know her very well. Just what are the qualities of a "Queen Consort" today - Are they not figureheads? I would think the qualifications to be Royal in the UK are poise and a nice speaking voice - Kind of like a Star Search Spokesmodel. JMHO
Hardly. All members of the English Royal Family carry out extensive charity work, make almost daily public appearances, and manage large estates, some of which are quite well-run farms. They do far more than most people ever bother to learn about and they don't flaunt it. They get a bad rap for doing very little wrong in the big picture, while Diana was given a pass by the general public just because she had a pretty face. If she had never been a member of the Royal Family, Dodie Al Fayed would never have given her a tumble. She enjoyed life with the Beautiful People at the expense of the Queen and her family.
CindyB
05-07-2008, 12:38 PM
Hi. I am a great admirer of Diana. She was only a human being and like all of us she had her good side and her bad side. I think that her charity work was exceptional and the way she could relate to many different people was exemplary. Would she have made a great queen consort? IMP definitely yes.
As I've posted, i do not for one minute believe there was a conspiracy to kill her.
I hope she rests in the peace she didn't have here.
Bye
Hi
The only person Diana was 'murdered' by was the drunk and drugged Henri Paul. There was no conspiracy. Why would anyone want to kill her? She was the mother to the bar one King of England. She wanted an 'ordinary' life and she couldn't have one because of who she was. I don't think for one moment that Diana wanted to become an ordinary person again. She liked being the POW and why shouldn't she? The problem was she entrusted her safety to people who couldn't provide it. And no, I'm not forgetting those leech like paps in Paris. I wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire.
Cheers
ITA....I couldn't have stated the way I feel about Diana or her fate any better than you did.
SaraSidle
05-07-2008, 02:18 PM
ITA....I couldn't have stated the way I feel about Diana or her fate any better than you did.
ITA IMO
LindaA
05-08-2008, 02:07 PM
I'm no Diana fan, but, don't get me wrong, I certainly hate that she died in such a violent way, and so young
SaraSidle
05-08-2008, 02:59 PM
I'm no Diana fan, but, don't get me wrong, I certainly hate that she died in such a violent way, and so young
I am a huge Diana fan and if more royals all over the world were as giving as her it would be a much better world. imo
Jayelles
05-11-2008, 12:34 PM
I am a huge Diana fan and if more royals all over the world were as giving as her it would be a much better world. imo
There wouldn't be enough space on the front pages if more royals all over the world were like Diana. It's well known that when she made her "spontaneous" visits to shelters and hospices at night that she tipped off the press so that there would be a camera there to capture the moment.
Give me Princess Anne any day. She works hard for many charities - often sleeves rolled up and hands on and she has been doing so for decades. People are always surprised when they learn the extent of her charitable work because it goes largely unreported. She just gets on with it - without personal dramas and media cameras.
LindaA
05-12-2008, 11:28 AM
There wouldn't be enough space on the front pages if more royals all over the world were like Diana. It's well known that when she made her "spontaneous" visits to shelters and hospices at night that she tipped off the press so that there would be a camera there to capture the moment.
Give me Princess Anne any day. She works hard for many charities - often sleeves rolled up and hands on and she has been doing so for decades. People are always surprised when they learn the extent of her charitable work because it goes largely unreported. She just gets on with it - without personal dramas and media cameras.
Absolutely, I agree. Prince Charles is no slouch in that department, either. I think Diana was an excellent manipulator of the press. JMO.
Joseph Bell
05-13-2008, 03:57 AM
Hi. I think Princess Anne does a very effective job for the charities she represents. I find her a very interesting person because she has openly said that she doesn't like children yet she works so well for them.
Diana, on the other hand, wore her heart on her sleeve. I think of her, a very naive 20 year old agreeing to marry a man of 32. She surely thought he loved her. She found out fast enough that he didn't. If Charles had loved her as women in the 20th and 21st centuries expect the men who marry them do, then there would probably have been a much smoother and longer lasting marriage. I couldn't imagine being confronted with the reality that my partner who I adore doesn't love me. He only married me because he had to.
She had more than enough reason, IMO, to manipulate her public image. Let's not forget that she was the one walking through minefields. Not Charles, Anne or Camilla.
Bye
Jayelles
05-13-2008, 04:44 AM
Hi. I think Princess Anne does a very effective job for the charities she represents. I find her a very interesting person because she has openly said that she doesn't like children yet she works so well for them.
Diana, on the other hand, wore her heart on her sleeve. I think of her, a very naive 20 year old agreeing to marry a man of 32. She surely thought he loved her. She found out fast enough that he didn't. If Charles had loved her as women in the 20th and 21st centuries expect the men who marry them do, then there would probably have been a much smoother and longer lasting marriage. I couldn't imagine being confronted with the reality that my partner who I adore doesn't love me. He only married me because he had to.
She had more than enough reason, IMO, to manipulate her public image. Let's not forget that she was the one walking through minefields. Not Charles, Anne or Camilla.
Bye
Don't get me wrong, I really wish that Charles and Diana's marriage had worked out. I think they would have made a formidable team. I personally think Diana naively went about her attempts to manipulate Charles in completely the wrong way and in doing so, she drove him towards Camilla. I think he would have fallen head over heels in love with her eventually. I think he couldn't deal with her "games of silly beggars". Camilla may not be the bonniest face, but I think she's straightforward and that's what Charles needs.
Not everyone can cope with complicated personalities in their life. I couldn't.
One only has to look at the trail of people whom Diana alienated in her life. She was always cutting people out of her life and she had a very high turnover of staff. Various people who knew her have said that it was always "all about Diana" and that if you weren't 100% with her, she considered that you were against her and cut you off.
Sadly, I don't think Diana did much if it wasn't going to benefit her in someway.
Joseph Bell
05-13-2008, 05:30 AM
Hi. We can agree to disagree about Diana's intentions and that's OK. We both think she was very special.
The UK coronial inquiry has laid to rest any thoughts that Diana was murdered. I never did. I believe that she would not have been in that tunnel if Charles had loved her or given her the support that she needed. All right, she may have been THE neediest person on this planet... but he asked her to marry him and that, IMP, implies( particularly to become POW) constant support, encouragement and love. Let's face it. She didn't get any. A sulking POW because people wanted to see Diana.
Diana wouldn't have been in Paris if Charles had loved her and been a real husband to her. She adored him. Their marriage might not have been 'made in heaven' but she wouldn't have been rushing into an underground tunnel in Paris with a drunk driver.
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