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FDInLaw
08-01-2007, 08:13 PM
This topic is brought up often and I thought it might be useful to make a list here. Please post a link or reference with every addition and keep discussion over on the other thread(s). Thanks ~ FD

FDInLaw
08-01-2007, 08:50 PM
From there, he (Kevin) told officers he went to his parents’ gas station, located between Russellville and Dover, and talked to Blake Walters, after which he met friend Jeremy Huggins at the Bayou Bridge Cafe in Dover for lunch at about 12:30 p.m.


http://www.couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=15351&Search=kevin%20jones


When questioned about the day of the murder, Walters said he didn’t see Jones until about 2:45 p.m., when Jones came to help out at the station. He said Jones left at about 4:30 p.m.


http://www.couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=15366&Search=kevin%20jones

hawgustusgloop
08-01-2007, 11:20 PM
Nona's "Little Sister" testified that they had dinner plans on the day Nona ws murdered.

From the Courier's Prosecution Witness summaries:

"A 12-year-old student at Russellville Middle School testified Dirksmeyer was her “big sister” as part of a local Big Brothers/Big Sisters program. Dirksmeyer began spending time with the girl when the girl was in fourth grade, she said.
She said Dirksmeyer was supposed to pick her up at 5:30 p.m. Dec. 15 and treat her to dinner at a Chinese restaurant. She said she called Dirksmeyer to confirm their plans beginning at about 2:45 p.m. until about 6:40 p.m. None of the calls were answered, she said."

Sorry I have no media link, but, according to multiple CL posters who were in the courtroom, Kevin Jones stated in his interrogation video that Nona's plans for the evening with her Little were cancelled.

FDInLaw
08-02-2007, 07:42 AM
In the tapes, he terms his and Dirksmeyer’s relationship as “very, very exclusive,” and tells investigators, “I was her best friend, and she was my best friend.”
Asked to describe Dirksmeyer, he said, “She was as nice as a person could get. ... She didn’t drink, didn’t do drugs.”
Jones did admit during the interviews to having had sexual intercourse with someone besides Dirksmeyer “in the past.” Asked how he would react had he found out Dirksmeyer was “cheating” on him, he said, “I’d just be hurt. I’d question why she did it.”
He expressed surprise when Waid asked him if he had seen the condom wrapper found in Dirksmeyer’s kitchen.
“She would not have sex with anyone but me,” Jones said.
http://www.couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=15351&Search=kevin%20jones
Before Patterson heard arguments about Monday’s motion, defense attorneys asked Monday afternoon for the press to be barred from the courtroom, citing “sensitive” issues the defense did not want to be made public, Patterson later confirmed. Patterson denied the request.
Bristow said Tuesday that the video contains a “mention of a sexual encounter between Jones and another person [who was not Dirksmeyer] a week prior to the murder.”
“The defense believes any probative value is substantially outweighed by the prejudicial effect,” he said. “It’s simply thrown out there in an effort to say the defendant did something improper,” and should be taken out of the statement shown to jurors.
Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Jeff Phillips argued Jones “adamantly denied” having sexual relations with anyone other than Dirksmeyer in other statements to police.
“He described their relationship as ‘very, very exclusive,’” Phillips said. He said Jones’ statements about the encounter show “that wasn’t the case.”
“It goes to motive as well, concerning the true feelings [of Jones] or lack of respect” he had for Dirksmeyer, Phillips said. “It’s absolutely inconsistent” with Jones’ previous description of his relationship with Dirksmeyer, he said.
“[The encounter] happened at his apartment in Fayetteville at his request,” Phillips said.
Patterson denied the defense’s motion. “It’s a credibility issue, and I’ll have the jury resolve that for us,” he said.
http://www.couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=15331&Search=kevin%20jones

lorettalockhorn
08-02-2007, 11:16 AM
Defense attorney's were successful in having the videotaped interview with Jones redacted to exclude references to KJ's drug use:

“The defense asks that your honor require a redaction of the videotaped statement,” defense attorney Bill Bristow said on the record and before the jury was seated for the day’s proceedings.
Patterson ruled the statement could be entered into evidence Monday afternoon. At the request of the defense, prosecutors excised Jones’ statements about using marijuana and other drugs, Gibbons said Monday. A copy of the taped statement without the drug references was given to defense attorneys for their review.

http://couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=15331&Search=dirksmeyer

lorettalockhorn
08-02-2007, 11:30 AM
Janice Jones testified that Kevin was her date for the evening and had selected and laid out his clothes for a Christmas party the morning of the 15th.

On Dec. 15, Jones said, she was supposed to go to a teacher’s Christmas party at Savanah’s Restaurant in Dardanelle. She hadn’t been to the annual party in a few years, but this year she was going to “treat” herself. But her son, her date for the evening, told her he was concerned about his girlfriend as he drove down Arkansas Avenue toward what should have been a pleasant evening, telling her “Mom, I can’t go to this party and not know that she’s okay.”
...this is her baby, the boy for whom she carefully selected and laid out clothing for on the morning of Dec. 15 in anticipation of that evening’s party.

http://couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=15411&Search=dirksmeyer

According to the testimony of Donna Adkins, Kevin wasn't approved to be a guest until around 4pm the afternoon of the 15th.

Donna Adkins, an employee of Dover Schools, testified she spoke with Janice Jones on Dec. 15 and encouraged her to bring Kevin Jones to the teachers’ Christmas party.
“I called the principal and asked if Kevin could come, and he agreed,” she said. She told the jury the call was placed at about 4 p.m.

http://couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=15411&Search=dirksmeyer

FDInLaw
08-02-2007, 12:43 PM
Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Jeff Phillips, on cross-examination, asked Janice Jones if she had seen her son touch anything in the room.
“I did not see him touch anything, no,” Jones said.
Kevin Jones’ palm print in Dirksmeyer’s blood was found on a light bulb attached to a lamp alleged to be the murder weapon. The defense asserts that this print was made at the time Jones discovered the body.

http://www.couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=15412&Search=ryan%20whiteside

I'm feeling lazy and will get links if asked. . . Kevin Jones also claimed not to have touched the lamp. Ryan Whiteside testified to not seeing Jones touch it either.

lorettalockhorn
08-03-2007, 12:17 PM
According to the PCS KJ left his parents' home around 11:45 to drive to the family owned gas station. Blake Walters testified that he did not see Kevin unti 2:45pm.

Arkansas Tech University student Blake Walters, 22, testified he worked at the Jones family gas station, located on State Highway 7 between Dover and Russellville, from August 2002 to May 2006.
When questioned about the day of the murder, Walters said he didn’t see Jones until about 2:45 p.m., when Jones came to help out at the station. He said Jones left at about 4:30 p.m.

http://www.couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=15366&Search=dirksmeyer

Jones' grandmother testified that she saw KJ at the gas station at 11:30am.

Norma Tate Jones, Kevin Jones’ grandmother, told jurors she saw him at the Jones family gas station at about 11:30 a.m. Dec. 15.
She said they talked for about 20 minutes and that he asked her for lunch money.
“I gave him $5,” she said.
She said when he left the station, he headed north on State Highway 7 toward Dover, where he planned to meet a friend for lunch at the Bayou Bridge Cafe.
During cross-examination, 5th Judicial District Prosecuting Attorney David Gibbons showed Jones the hand-written timeline Kevin Jones gave to police. Kevin Jones wrote he did not arrive at the station until noon.
She couldn’t answer why Kevin Jones didn’t tell police about his conversation with her at 11:30, and said she was not aware if there was anyone else present during their conversation. She told the jurors several times – at the questioning of defense attorney Kenneth Johnson – that she was telling the truth.

http://www.couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=15412&Search=dirksmeyer

lorettalockhorn
08-03-2007, 01:00 PM
Portions of the 911 call would point to the fact that KJ knew that Nona was dead when he entered the apartment.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: Is she breathing at all?

CALLER: No. No. She's cold. She's not breathing. She doesn't have a pulse. And I think she's dead.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0512/20/pzn.01.html

Laura Brown testified about what she witnessed with regard to KJ's handling of Nona's body:

The next witness called was Laura Brown, a Pope County EMS paramedic who was dispatched to DIRKSMEYER’s apartment Dec. 15.
When she entered the apartment, she said she saw a young man “straddling” a body in the dark room.
She said she turned on the lights and Jones, who was straddling DIRKSMEYER’s body, was “screaming, talking, hysterical.”
“He grabbed her behind the shoulders and lifted her up,” she said. Brown told him to put DIRKSMEYER down and asked him to get up.


http://couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=15379&Search=dirksmeyer

Ryan Whiteside also testified to KJ's handling of Nona:

He was also asked by defense attorney Kenneth Johnson to step down to the courtroom floor to re-enact Jones’ “straddling” of DIRKSMEYER’s body in the minutes after he, Whiteside, and Janice Jones entered her apartment on the night of the 15th. Whiteside kneeled, placing his hands on the floor in front of him in an “all-fours” position.
He was questioned extensively by Phillips about a previous statement in which he said while Jones was “straddling” the body “I tried to kind of grab him and pull him away, but he got back down.”
Phillips said Whiteside contradicted that statement during a Jan. 8, 2006 interview, saying that he had encouraged Jones to “keep her warm.”
Whiteside denied any recall of the first statement Wednesday, saying he encouraged Jones to “keep doing what you’re doing.”

http://couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=15379&Search=dirksmeyer

sololobo
08-03-2007, 01:06 PM
According to the PCS KJ left his parents' home around 11:45 to drive to the family owned gas station. Blake Walters testified that he did not see Kevin unti 2:45pm.

Arkansas Tech University student Blake Walters, 22, testified he worked at the Jones family gas station, located on State Highway 7 between Dover and Russellville, from August 2002 to May 2006.
When questioned about the day of the murder, Walters said he didn’t see Jones until about 2:45 p.m., when Jones came to help out at the station. He said Jones left at about 4:30 p.m.

http://www.couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=15366&Search=dirksmeyer

Jones' grandmother testified that she saw KJ at the gas station at 11:30am.

Norma Tate Jones, Kevin Jones’ grandmother, told jurors she saw him at the Jones family gas station at about 11:30 a.m. Dec. 15.
She said they talked for about 20 minutes and that he asked her for lunch money.
“I gave him $5,” she said.
She said when he left the station, he headed north on State Highway 7 toward Dover, where he planned to meet a friend for lunch at the Bayou Bridge Cafe.
During cross-examination, 5th Judicial District Prosecuting Attorney David Gibbons showed Jones the hand-written timeline Kevin Jones gave to police. Kevin Jones wrote he did not arrive at the station until noon.
She couldn’t answer why Kevin Jones didn’t tell police about his conversation with her at 11:30, and said she was not aware if there was anyone else present during their conversation. She told the jurors several times – at the questioning of defense attorney Kenneth Johnson – that she was telling the truth.

http://www.couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=15412&Search=dirksmeyer

"Blake Walters was interviewed and stated that he did not see Jones at the Station until 13:00 on the 15th of December." PCS Statement

"When questioned about the day of the murder, Walters said he didn’t see Jones until about 2:45 p.m., when Jones came to help out at the station." Courier

http://www.couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=15366&Search=dirksmeyer

Well, this certainly proves the PCS statement lied:)

lorettalockhorn
08-03-2007, 01:13 PM
"Blake Walters was interviewed and stated that he did not see Jones at the Station until 13:00 on the 15th of December." PCS Statement

"When questioned about the day of the murder, Walters said he didn’t see Jones until about 2:45 p.m., when Jones came to help out at the station." Courier

http://www.couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=15366&Search=dirksmeyer

Well, this certainly proves the PCS statement lied:)

I suppose that it's not possible that after a period of time, Walters reconstructed the work day and realized that he didn't see KJ until 2:45? I don't see how the sworn testimony at trial is proof that the PCS is a lie. Posting inconsistencies here; including grandmother coming forward with an alibi seemingly at the last minute.

sololobo
08-03-2007, 01:40 PM
I suppose that it's not possible that after a period of time, Walters reconstructed the work day and realized that he didn't see KJ until 2:45? I don't see how the sworn testimony at trial is proof that the PCS is a lie. Posting inconsistencies here; including grandmother coming forward with an alibi seemingly at the last minute.

There is an inconsistency in the PCS and sworn testimony and I posted it. So we don't expect Walters to remember details that day but we demand Kevin, under extreme emotional distress, remember them in detail?

If Grandma Jones truly wished to be "inconsistent", I'm sure she would have testified she saw him at 11:05 am.

lorettalockhorn
08-03-2007, 01:48 PM
There is an inconsistency in the PCS and sworn testimony and I posted it. So we don't expect Walters to remember details that day but we demand Kevin, under extreme emotional distress, remember them in detail?

If Grandma Jones truly wished to be "inconsistent", I'm sure she would have testified she saw him at 11:05 am.

Hey, as poorly as the PCS was written, for all I know, Frost meant to say 3:00 rather than 13:00.

sololobo
08-03-2007, 01:51 PM
Hey, as poorly as the PCS was written, for all I know, Frost meant to say 3:00 rather than 13:00.

Lol:) I will agree with you on that:)

christina
08-08-2007, 12:27 AM
Friday, February 03, 2006
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

FBI assists Dirksmeyer investigation

50 days after discovery, investigators interested
in requested information from FBI, other agencies

By Scott Perkins
editor@couriernews.com
The Arkansas River Valley community continues to wonder about the truth behind the murder of 19-year-old Nona Dirksmeyer, the Arkansas Tech University sophomore whose body was discovered Dec. 15, 2005, in her off-campus apartment in Russellville.
Fifty days after Dover native Kevin Jones, Dirksmeyer’s boyfriend, Jones’ mother and a friend of Kevin’s discovered her body, Prosecuting Attorney for the 5th Judicial District David Gibbons said the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which has been involved with the investigation since “early on,” continues to interject its “expertise” in the case.
“The FBI has been assisting in the investigation since early on,” Gibbons told The Courier on Wednesday. “The Russellville Police Department requested the FBI’s and other agencies’ assistance in certain areas of expertise. We are interested in information being developed by those agencies for us. That’s where we are at with the investigation.”
When asked to elaborate on the certain areas of “expertise,” Gibbons said, “There are certain aspects of investigation that the FBI has expertise in. We’re not saying they (FBI) are knocking on doors or questioning people for us.”
Russellville Police Detective Mark Frost, lead investigator of the case, turned the RPD’s investigative report over to Gibbons on Jan. 17.
What investigators
have confirmed
During a Dec. 22 press conference, Russellville Police Chief James Bacon said all but one person of interest had been eliminated as a suspect.
Bacon later said formal charges had been requested for one person, but Gibbons requested that person’s name not be released until formal charges were filed.
When asked if Dirksmeyer’s murder was a random attack, Bacon said, “We are confident that is not the case.”
Investigators also said forensic evidence from the crime scene was obtained and provided additional information but would not release whether or not a murder weapon or weapons had been processed.
The autopsy report indicated the cause of death was multiple blunt- and sharp-force injuries, including a stab wound to the back right side of the neck and superficial cuts on the front and right side of the neck, shoulder and ear. Additionally, there were abrasions to the front of the face around the eyes, nose and chin.
Investigators also previously said there was no sign of sexual assault, nor trauma to the body that indicated sexual assault.
During the December press conference, Bacon said his department had interviewed more than 50 persons that may have had knowledge of Dirksmeyer’s activities on or around Dec. 15.
Through those interviews, Bacon said “ ... we have cleared all but one of these people.”
A 2004 graduate of Dover High School, reigning Miss Petit Jean Valley, contestant in the 2005 Miss Arkansas Scholarship Pageant, and a well-regarded musical talent, Dirksmeyer’s death has shaken her family, friends, the community and the Arkansas Tech University student body and faculty.



The exact opposite was shown at trial. The RPD did not inlcude anyone in the actual investigaiton. And nothing came in from the FBI.

christina
08-08-2007, 12:44 AM
Friday, March 10, 2006
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Nona's killer remains free


No arrest in Dirksmeyer murder investigation 86 days after her death

By Scott Perkins
editor@couriernews.com
It's been nearly three months since Nona Dirksmeyer, 19, was found dead in her Russellville apartment and her family wants answers -- particularly when it comes to the identity of the sole murder suspect mentioned by local law enforcement.
"Our family has been through nearly 90 days of confusion and frustration," Greg Dirksmeyer, Nona's older brother said.
"We hope and pray for justice for Nona's sake, and we urge the authorities involved to do what it takes to get Nona's killer off the streets and on the road to a conviction."
David Gibbons, 5th Judicial District prosecuting attorney, told The Courier on Thursday many law enforcement agencies are involved in the investigation and processing evidence is his current focus.
"The investigation is continuing on," Gibbons said.
"We have all these different agencies involved in it. It is moving forward. It is important that when a case is presented to a jury that the jury is comfortable with the evidence and comfortable with returning a guilty verdict."
Russellville Police Chief James Bacon and Det. Mark Frost, lead investigator, turned over the investigative report to Gibbons on Jan. 17.
The RPD has requested formal charges to be filed against one suspect.
"We understand there is a process to any investigation, but we need some answers about what happened to Nona in her apartment on that tragic day," Dirksmeyer said. "If Mark Frost wasn't involved with this case, I would really be worried."
When asked about the status of evidence in the Dirksmeyer murder investigation, J.R. Howard, executive director of the Arkansas State Crime Laboratory said, "There's been some stuff completed in February. And there's still some evidence being processed."
Howard said it would be difficult to put a timeline on when the evidence in his lab will be fully processed.
"It's hard to put a date on it," Howard said. "You've got one of the best prosecutors (Gibbons) in the state handling this. He'll do it right."
Howard also pointed out he has worked with Gibbons in the past and has known him a long time.
Authorities confirmed early in the investigation the FBI and the Arkansas State Police were assisting with processing certain pieces of evidence pertaining to areas of "expertise."
"There may be some tests that we (state crime lab) can't do. It might be that they sent evidence to a different crime lab... for a quicker turn-around. We out-source several toxicology cases because independent labs could process quicker than we could," Howard said.
Nona Dirksmeyer, a sophomore music student at Arkansas Tech University and a 2004 graduate of Dover High School, reportedly died Dec. 15 as a result of multiple blunt- and sharp-force trauma.
Editor's note: Look for continued coverage on the investigation and for the latest on any possible charges or arrest in future editions of The Courier. Scarlet Sims contributed to this article.

This makes it sound like the ASP were really involved. Only two ASP troopers testified at the trial. One drove their car on a Thursday morning around 10:30 from Jones house to Nona's apartment and back. He took two routes and told the times it took. The other was an investigator, very intelligent woman. She testified that she signed the forms neccessary to retrieve cell records from the mother company in Florida. She testified she was present at the scene the night of the murder. When asked how she was involved in the investigation at that point she answered she was asked to look in the woods for the stick and the cell battery. In my opinion, the RPD would have been wise to inlcude her inside the apartment at the actual crime scene and include her in the daily meetings. She was sharp on the stand and had years more experience than Frost.

christina
08-08-2007, 01:08 AM
"According to detectives and the FBI Behavioral Science Team, "the actions of Jones at the crime scene were a deliberate attempt to destroy the crime scene and to provide an explanation for the presence of any incriminating evidence."
this was taken from this article-
http://www.5newsonline.com/Global/story.asp?S=4708342&nav=menu151_1

No report or testimony was presented at the trial from the FBI Behavioral Science Team.

christina
08-08-2007, 01:17 AM
" Affiant knows from his training and experience that rape/murders are very rare. In 2004, there were 14,121 murders committed in the United States, and of those victims, only 36 were raped. Based on his training and experience and consultation with the FBI Behavioral Analysis Unit, it is Affiant’s belief that the condom wrapper was placed on the counter to make it appear as if rape was the motive for the attack."

Besides my hammered home -no report or testimony from the FBI Behavioral Unit... Affaint (Frost) testified this was his first murder case. Very inconcistent with the "experience" he lists in the PCS.

hawgustusgloop
08-08-2007, 11:18 AM
"According to detectives and the FBI Behavioral Science Team, "the actions of Jones at the crime scene were a deliberate attempt to destroy the crime scene and to provide an explanation for the presence of any incriminating evidence."
this was taken from this article-
http://www.5newsonline.com/Global/story.asp?S=4708342&nav=menu151_1

No report or testimony was presented at the trial from the FBI Behavioral Science Team.

So, where are the lies in these posts? This isn't making any sense in the context of the thread IMO.

lorettalockhorn
08-08-2007, 12:12 PM
During the hearing for the change of venue, the husband of an employee of the defense team testified. It is also rumored that the husband of a poster at Crime Library testified; to my knowledge, the second man did not specifically cite his connection to this site as the source of his knowledge about pre-trial publicity.

It is rumored that the uncle of a close friend of Ryan Whiteside sat on the jury.

ifIwereU
09-11-2007, 01:43 PM
Friday, March 10, 2006
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Nona's killer remains free


No arrest in Dirksmeyer murder investigation 86 days after her death

By Scott Perkins
editor@couriernews.com
It's been nearly three months since Nona Dirksmeyer, 19, was found dead in her Russellville apartment and her family wants answers -- particularly when it comes to the identity of the sole murder suspect mentioned by local law enforcement.
"Our family has been through nearly 90 days of confusion and frustration," Greg Dirksmeyer, Nona's older brother said.
"We hope and pray for justice for Nona's sake, and we urge the authorities involved to do what it takes to get Nona's killer off the streets and on the road to a conviction."
David Gibbons, 5th Judicial District prosecuting attorney, told The Courier on Thursday many law enforcement agencies are involved in the investigation and processing evidence is his current focus.
"The investigation is continuing on," Gibbons said.
"We have all these different agencies involved in it. It is moving forward. It is important that when a case is presented to a jury that the jury is comfortable with the evidence and comfortable with returning a guilty verdict."
Russellville Police Chief James Bacon and Det. Mark Frost, lead investigator, turned over the investigative report to Gibbons on Jan. 17.
The RPD has requested formal charges to be filed against one suspect.
"We understand there is a process to any investigation, but we need some answers about what happened to Nona in her apartment on that tragic day," Dirksmeyer said. "If Mark Frost wasn't involved with this case, I would really be worried."
When asked about the status of evidence in the Dirksmeyer murder investigation, J.R. Howard, executive director of the Arkansas State Crime Laboratory said, "There's been some stuff completed in February. And there's still some evidence being processed."
Howard said it would be difficult to put a timeline on when the evidence in his lab will be fully processed.
"It's hard to put a date on it," Howard said. "You've got one of the best prosecutors (Gibbons) in the state handling this. He'll do it right."
Howard also pointed out he has worked with Gibbons in the past and has known him a long time.
Authorities confirmed early in the investigation the FBI and the Arkansas State Police were assisting with processing certain pieces of evidence pertaining to areas of "expertise."
"There may be some tests that we (state crime lab) can't do. It might be that they sent evidence to a different crime lab... for a quicker turn-around. We out-source several toxicology cases because independent labs could process quicker than we could," Howard said.
Nona Dirksmeyer, a sophomore music student at Arkansas Tech University and a 2004 graduate of Dover High School, reportedly died Dec. 15 as a result of multiple blunt- and sharp-force trauma.
Editor's note: Look for continued coverage on the investigation and for the latest on any possible charges or arrest in future editions of The Courier. Scarlet Sims contributed to this article.

This makes it sound like the ASP were really involved. Only two ASP troopers testified at the trial. One drove their car on a Thursday morning around 10:30 from Jones house to Nona's apartment and back. He took two routes and told the times it took. The other was an investigator, very intelligent woman. She testified that she signed the forms neccessary to retrieve cell records from the mother company in Florida. She testified she was present at the scene the night of the murder. When asked how she was involved in the investigation at that point she answered she was asked to look in the woods for the stick and the cell battery. In my opinion, the RPD would have been wise to inlcude her inside the apartment at the actual crime scene and include her in the daily meetings. She was sharp on the stand and had years more experience than Frost.
I don't remmeber her testimony including this tidbit...

christina
09-12-2007, 12:38 AM
I don't remmeber her testimony including this tidbit...

You seem to know your way around the police, ask her and see.

ifIwereU
09-12-2007, 10:13 AM
You seem to know your way around the police, ask her and see.
I was in the court room when she testified

hawgustusgloop
09-12-2007, 01:24 PM
I was in the court room when she testified

Thank you for helping us to weed out the "misinformation" here.

ifIwereU
09-12-2007, 07:19 PM
Thank you for helping us to weed out the "misinformation" here.
doing what I can..

FDInLaw
02-12-2008, 02:06 PM
I suppose that it's not possible that after a period of time, Walters reconstructed the work day and realized that he didn't see KJ until 2:45? I don't see how the sworn testimony at trial is proof that the PCS is a lie. Posting inconsistencies here; including grandmother coming forward with an alibi seemingly at the last minute.Agree.
I was sad that Granny Jones was not on the 48 Hours show, wanted to get a feel for how "with it" she is.

guppie
02-25-2008, 06:06 AM
Agree.
I was sad that Granny Jones was not on the 48 Hours show, wanted to get a feel for how "with it" she is.

i bet many of us who have children and grandchildren would also lie in court to save them from prison. sometimes how much you love & care for someone keeps you from doing the right thing in the eyes of the law. that must have been hell for granny. maybe that's why she isn't speaking now. living with guilt is tough. it's a shame they even called her to testify since she wasn't even on KJ's timeline, but i guess the jury Christians bought into her story. scare me.:shrug:

FDInLaw
05-05-2008, 05:58 PM
BUMPING! :rose:

Tile
05-12-2008, 07:37 PM
(General conversation while waiting for EMS to arrive)
911 operator: How long has it been since he talked to her?
Woman: She sent him a text message at 9 o’clock this morning. ...
(Ambulance arrives after further conversation. Call ends at about 6:40 p.m.)

http://www.couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=15766&Search=Dipert

I've never actually heard the 911 phone call, but it seemed strange to me that Kevin's mother knew exactly when and how Kevin had contact with Nona last. It would seem less strange if I saw "After a short pause" or Woman: "Kevin when did you last talk to Nona?" between the 911 operator asking and his mother answering the question.
The fact that mother knew exactly when Kevin's last contact and that the contact was via text message makes me question whether the mother knows more than she's said. If I was asked by anyone when the last time I spoke to someone, even text message, I don't think I would tell them the exact time and method of contact. This just threw up a hinkey flag when reading it. Anyone else? If y'all already addressed this in the main board I'm sorry. :)

lorettalockhorn
05-12-2008, 07:45 PM
Yeah, that has always bugged me. I suppose it's possible that on the way over to Dardanelle, when Kevin was setting JJ up to be worried about Nona, that he told her that he hadn't heard from her since the text message at 9am.

(Still wonder why he never answered it. As was their habit.)

Tile
05-12-2008, 08:00 PM
Of course I link to the wrong page. Here's the correct one:

http://www.couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=9882&Search=Dirksmeyer

SaraSidle
05-12-2008, 08:26 PM
Of course I link to the wrong page. Here's the correct one:

http://www.couriernews.com/archived_story.php?ID=9882&Search=Dirksmeyer

Thanks Tile

FDInLaw
09-16-2008, 04:42 PM
Bumping for Lane99.