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Marissa
01-19-2007, 09:16 PM
Did anyone read about narcotics unit going to the crime scene? Why were they called in the first place? Also, why did it take so long for the police to notice the coroner?
sassylassy
01-19-2007, 09:32 PM
Greetings Marissa :seeya:
Sorry, I never heard of the narcotics unit going to the crime scene?:shrug:
martin II
01-19-2007, 11:43 PM
Did anyone read about narcotics unit going to the crime scene? Why were they called in the first place? Also, why did it take so long for the police to notice the coroner?
Marissa hi
I did not know the narcotic unit went to Bundy first.
I have read that the DEA was investigating some level of drug
business at Mazzula (sp) resturant and in and around Brentwood.
I do have ideaS as to why vanhatter delayed the arrival of the coroner to Bundy. I think it was something like 12 hours. Not sure though.IMO
I have always thought the coronor should be called immediately when a dead body is found if one is interested in determining the correct time of death amd to prevent improper movement of the bodies and evidence.
martin II
2L8 4A D8
01-20-2007, 05:03 AM
Did anyone read about narcotics unit going to the crime scene? Why were they called in the first place? Also, why did it take so long for the police to notice the coroner?
Welcome. Since no one seems to know what you are talking about, I think that you need to supply a link or some kind of substantiation to back up your questions so that we can all see for ourselves. Also, your questions could have very well been put under the Thread entitled "Unanswered Questions in the OJ Case" instead of starting a new Thread. :shrug:
JMO and MOO!!
William Anthony
01-20-2007, 08:31 AM
Marissa,
Welcome and prepare for a bumpy ride, smile. This is the first I have heard of the narcos being called.
2L8 4A D8
01-20-2007, 05:05 PM
Unless this Poster can substantiate her queries through a link, this whole Thread is a moot point as far as I am concerned. One post? GMAB!
If anyone can find a link re: this matter, then by all means post it! Until then, it is just unsubstantiated bullsh*t! :no:
JMO and MOO!!
William Anthony
01-20-2007, 05:14 PM
Did anyone read about narcotics unit going to the crime scene? Why were they called in the first place? Also, why did it take so long for the police to notice the coroner?
As you can see, you have just encountered your first pothole.
2L8 4A D8
01-20-2007, 05:53 PM
As you can see, you have just encountered your first pothole.
Who are you talking to? Your Gal isn't coming back and if she does, she better bring a "link" with her! What part of "unless her queries can be substantiated with a link" don't you get? You, of all people, should want to know if what she says is cr@p or not!
Oh yeah, I forgot ~ you've just got to have the last assinine word! :punch:
JMO and MOO!!
fbgweezer
01-21-2007, 12:59 PM
Did anyone read about narcotics unit going to the crime scene? Why were they called in the first place? Also, why did it take so long for the police to notice the coroner?
I've never heard/read that anywhere but since orenthal was the only person involved in that night that had drugs in his system and since he had been coming and going from Nicole's in the weeks prior to her death -- maybe they thought he was using Bundy to stash his drugs? ;) IMO
BTW -- can you give us a link to your statement about the narcotics unit?
martin II
01-21-2007, 02:09 PM
I've never heard/read that anywhere but since orenthal was the only person involved in that night that had drugs in his system and since he had been coming and going from Nicole's in the weeks prior to her death -- maybe they thought he was using Bundy to stash his drugs? ;) IMO
BTW -- can you give us a link to your statement about the narcotics unit?
weeer
or since the DEA had a investigation going on that included the Mezzaluna resturant and some of its employees they could have been looking to catch a drug shipment and were watching or following Ron when he left work and went to nicoles. Or they may have mistook Ron fhe K. Z.
But i have not heard of this only there was a ongoing FEA investigation.
jmo imo
martin II
fbgweezer
01-21-2007, 02:31 PM
weeer
or since the DEA had a investigation going on that included the Mezzaluna resturant and some of its employees they could have been looking to catch a drug shipment and were watching or following Ron when he left work and went to nicoles. Or they may have mistook Ron fhe K. Z.
But i have not heard of this only there was a ongoing FEA investigation.
jmo imo
martin II
nah -- my money is on the drug user orenthal james simpson. IMO
William Anthony
01-22-2007, 02:20 PM
Who are you talking to? Your Gal isn't coming back and if she does, she better bring a "link" with her! What part of "unless her queries can be substantiated with a link" don't you get? You, of all people, should want to know if what she says is cr@p or not!
Oh yeah, I forgot ~ you've just got to have the last assinine word! :punch:
JMO and MOO!!
The last and maybe only assinine words, imh&Ro, are posted by you. How can you substantiate a question with a link? She has sought information and the only people other than me (as a vu) are the ngs to have said they never heard of the narcs being called. I am assuming Classy Sassy Lassy is a ng.
martin II
01-22-2007, 03:57 PM
The last and maybe only assinine words, imh&Ro, are posted by you. How can you substantiate a question with a link? She has sought information and the only people other than me (as a vu) are the ngs to have said they never heard of the narcs being called. I am assuming Classy Sassy Lassy is a ng.
what i don't understand is-----
3 questions were asked. no one has offered any info so far. So the request for a LINK is for what????
Maby this is a new rule the PLAY moderator has for us.
martin II
William Anthony
01-22-2007, 04:06 PM
what i don't understand is-----
3 questions were asked. no one has offered any info so far. So the request for a LINK is for what????
Maby this is a new rule the PLAY moderator has for us.
martin II
I had a problem understanding how a request could be considered a statement, until I considered the sources. They, who talk about others' abilities with the English language, obviously, never took or took English 101 so long ago, that it has become obscure to them. Perhaps, they should review the types of sentences before making unnecessary remarks that tend to discourage new posters.
martin II
01-22-2007, 04:16 PM
I had a problem understanding how a request could be considered a statement, until I considered the sources. They, who talk about others' abilities with the English language, obviously, never took or took English 101 so long ago, that it has become obscure to them. Perhaps, they should review the types of sentences before making unnecessary remarks that tend to discourage new posters.
Maby the person doing the critiqing is a collage english professor, the president of a university, lawyer, author of a "how to write english" book etc. but without them explaining THEIR profession, it may be difficult for people to take them serious.
IMO
MARETIN ii
William Anthony
01-22-2007, 04:27 PM
Maby the person doing the critiqing is a collage english professor, the president of a university, lawyer, author of a "how to write english" book etc. but without them explaining THEIR profession, it may be difficult for people to take them serious.
IMO
MARETIN ii
I have no idea. Although they realze that they were questions, as evidenced by this, "Welcome. Since no one seems to know what you are talking about, I think that you need to supply a link or some kind of substantiation to back up your questions so that we can all see for ourselves. Also, your questions could have very well been put under the Thread entitled "Unanswered Questions in the OJ Case" instead of starting a new Thread.
JMO and MOO!!", they want a link. Are we now playing jeopardy, in that we are to provide answers in the form of questions? Is Alex here?
socaldiva
01-22-2007, 07:33 PM
Maby the person doing the critiqing is a collage english professor, the president of a university, lawyer, author of a "how to write english" book etc. but without them explaining THEIR profession, it may be difficult for people to take them serious.
IMO
MARETIN ii
"collage english professor"???? Good grief, now you can't even spell your own name "MARETIN".
2L8 4A D8
01-22-2007, 09:26 PM
I have no idea. Although they realze that they were questions, as evidenced by this, "Welcome. Since no one seems to know what you are talking about, I think that you need to supply a link or some kind of substantiation to back up your questions so that we can all see for ourselves. Also, your questions could have very well been put under the Thread entitled "Unanswered Questions in the OJ Case" instead of starting a new Thread.
JMO and MOO!!", they want a link. Are we now playing jeopardy, in that we are to provide answers in the form of questions? Is Alex here?
Yeah, laugh it up genius! I guess you forgot about the following post. Duh!
06-19-2006, 03:11 PM
Freshwater
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"This is an experimental forum. Given the heated natue of this case, it will be important to provide links, show your reasoning..."
This gal isn't coming back! She only started this Thread to bait, incite and inflame Posters and you and Martin fell for it, hook, line and sinker! It says a lot about the two of you that you both seemed to automatically take this gal's post as Gospel! As usual, I will just consider the sources! I am the only one with any common sense that called her on it!
If she comes back, she'd better bring a link with her. And if she doesn't, she and this Thread will be reported!
JMO and MOO!!
Suzee10
01-23-2007, 12:20 AM
I've never heard/read that anywhere but since orenthal was the only person involved in that night that had drugs in his system and since he had been coming and going from Nicole's in the weeks prior to her death -- maybe they thought he was using Bundy to stash his drugs? ;) IMO
BTW -- can you give us a link to your statement about the narcotics unit?
I have to agree with you on this fbjweezer. Sounds like one the theories people are out and about, lol. I had never heard this no matter how much the ng's tried to make Nicole out to be a drug user. She nor Ron had any drugs in their systems at the time of their death and they sure were not aware they would be murdered. ;)
If there were any narcotics officers there they were following simpson.
Suzee10
01-23-2007, 12:22 AM
nah -- my money is on the drug user orenthal james simpson. IMO
Yeah it was simpson. :beer:
William Anthony
01-23-2007, 09:26 AM
Yeah, laugh it up genius! I guess you forgot about the following post. Duh!
06-19-2006, 03:11 PM
Freshwater
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"This is an experimental forum. Given the heated natue of this case, it will be important to provide links, show your reasoning..."
This gal isn't coming back! She only started this Thread to bait, incite and inflame Posters and you and Martin fell for it, hook, line and sinker! It says a lot about the two of you that you both seemed to automatically take this gal's post as Gospel! As usual, I will just consider the sources! I am the only one with any common sense that called her on it!
If she comes back, she'd better bring a link with her. And if she doesn't, she and this Thread will be reported!
JMO and MOO!!
How pray tell is asking a question reasoning? You seem to want everyone reported who questions this case? I think my post was very similar to the one and only Classy Sassy Lassy's. Why did you forget to mention her? Because I responded that I have never heard that the narcs. were called, you seem to jump to the erroneous conclusion, as is your tendency, imho, that I bought into something. I do not understand how you can falsely accuse me of that, when any reasonable thinking rational person would see that I was just informing the poster that the question was beyond my sphere of knowledge. You seem to have hastily and incorrectly jumped to the conclusion that the poster was making a statement as opposed to asking a question. One may look at it as though you were baiting and trying to intimidate the poster.
martin II
01-23-2007, 10:04 AM
william
one quesiton Marissa,a new poster here asked, is a valid quesition. "why did it take so long for the coronor to be called to the murder scene" this quesiton deserves discussion.imo
I believe the coroner was not called until 12 hours after the discovery of the bodies.This does not seem to be the mormal procedure for LE.
Her other questions seemed to asking for information so i think it was unfair to Marissa to be attacked as she was for her post.
martin II
William Anthony
01-23-2007, 10:13 AM
william
one quesiton Marissa,a new poster here asked, is a valid quesition. "why did it take so long for the coronor to be called to the murder scene" this quesiton deserves discussion.imo
I believe the coroner was not called until 12 hours after the discovery of the bodies.This does not seem to be the mormal procedure for LE.
Her other questions seemed to asking for information so i think it was unfair to Marissa to be attacked as she was for her post.
martin II
I do not think anyone should be attacked for asking a question. I am amazed at how quickly and nastily some of the posters on this board will attack. It is as if they live for nothing other than to attack anyone who questions anything about the case. Perhaps, Marissa is much smater than I am. Perhaps, I should follow her lead and not return. No, that is what those posters, who, imho, see the problems with their conclusion want. I am not so thin-skined as to run to Freshwater, when the weather gets too too hot.
martin II
01-23-2007, 10:27 AM
William
I agree
But, responding to unfair attacks and threats all day does tend to smother valid discussion of the case that some gs and ngs attempt to engage in here.
It does seem to just go on and on.
martin II
Kate Sachel
01-23-2007, 10:31 AM
Did anyone read about narcotics unit going to the crime scene? Why were they called in the first place? Also, why did it take so long for the police to notice the coroner?
Hi Marissa,
I have exhausted all efforts in researching the idea that a Narcotics Unit was dispatched to Bundy but have been unable to find any information to substantiate the possibility.
Can you advise where you might have heard something of this nature?
Thanks,
Kate
Kate Sachel
01-23-2007, 10:32 AM
I do not think anyone should be attacked for asking a question. I am amazed at how quickly and nastily some of the posters on this board will attack. It is as if they live for nothing other than to attack anyone who questions anything about the case. Perhaps, Marissa is much smater than I am. Perhaps, I should follow her lead and not return. No, that is what those posters, who, imho, see the problems with their conclusion want. I am not so thin-skined as to run to Freshwater, when the weather gets too too hot.
I do agree that some individuals strike quickly, but I would caution to remember that it happens on each side of the fence.
Kate
William Anthony
01-23-2007, 11:04 AM
I do agree that some individuals strike quickly, but I would caution to remember that it happens on each side of the fence.
Kate
As always, I take your advisement into consideration. However, in this case I do believe I already did, smile. I did not limit or intend to limit it to any side. It is nice to see you posting.
Kate Sachel
01-23-2007, 11:22 AM
As always, I take your advisement into consideration. However, in this case I do believe I already did, smile. I did not limit or intend to limit it to any side. It is nice to see you posting.
You are always kind to me in that way, thank you.
I did not mean to sound as though I was accusing you, I just thought it worthy to mention based on the unpleasant dealings I have had recently with an individual on this forum.
Kate
William Anthony
01-23-2007, 11:50 AM
You are always kind to me in that way, thank you.
I did not mean to sound as though I was accusing you, I just thought it worthy to mention based on the unpleasant dealings I have had recently with an individual on this forum.
Kate
Kinetic Kate,
I do believe I understand, and, I have, likewise, had some recent similar encounters. I thank you for your kind and gracious acknowledgement.
2L8 4A D8
01-23-2007, 12:50 PM
Did anyone read about narcotics unit going to the crime scene? Why were they called in the first place? Also, why did it take so long for the police to notice the coroner?
Welcome. Since no one seems to know what you are talking about, I think that you need to supply a link or some kind of substantiation to back up your questions so that we can all see for ourselves.
<snipped>
JMO and MOO!!
I've never heard/read that anywhere but since orenthal was the only person involved in that night that had drugs in his system and since he had been coming and going from Nicole's in the weeks prior to her death -- maybe they thought he was using Bundy to stash his drugs? ;) IMO
BTW -- can you give us a link to your statement about the narcotics unit?
<snipped>
06-19-2006, 03:11 PM
Freshwater
Administrator
Forum Rules
"This is an experimental forum. Given the heated natue of this case, it will be important to provide links, show your reasoning..."
<snipped>
JMO and MOO!!
Hi Marissa,
I have exhausted all efforts in researching the idea that a Narcotics Unit was dispatched to Bundy but have been unable to find any information to substantiate the possibility.
Can you advise where you might have heard something of this nature?
Thanks,
Kate
<snipped>
One may look at it as though you were baiting and trying to intimidate the poster.
Uh huh, yeah right! From the looks of the posts above, it seems that I am not the only one who requested a link or some kind of substantiation from this Poster.
If she would have checked the Forum Rules, she would have saw Freshwater's post and either (1) she wouldn't have posted or (2) she would have posted and included a link or substantiation. She did neither. Not my problem!
JMO and MOO!!
William Anthony
01-23-2007, 01:18 PM
Uh huh, yeah right! From the looks of the posts above, it seems that I am not the only one who requested a link or some kind of substantiation from this Poster.
If she would have checked the Forum Rules, she would have saw Freshwater's post and either (1) she wouldn't have posted or (2) she would have posted and included a link or substantiation. She did neither. Not my problem!
JMO and MOO!!
I have never said you were the only one to ask for a link, but I will say that you are the only one to have told her what she better do and threatened to report her (attack). Does this statement ring a bell, "If she comes back, she'd better bring a link with her. And if she doesn't, she and this Thread will be reported!"? She merely asked did anyone read that the narcs had been called to the crime scene. I do not know how she can provide a link to what others have read. Perhaps, you will be so gracious as to explain that to me?
Marissa
02-13-2007, 12:31 AM
Ok here is the link this is what I was talking about. Commanding officer Constance Dial is charge of narcotics unit
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.oj-simpson/browse_thread/thread/ad4b638ccc8b0f4d/2e6d762c836e81c8%232e6d762c836e81c8
Sorry I am new to this but look up that website
socaldiva
02-13-2007, 12:48 AM
Ok here is the link this is what I was talking about. Commanding officer Constance Dial is charge of narcotics unit
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.oj-simpson/browse_thread/thread/ad4b638ccc8b0f4d/2e6d762c836e81c8%232e6d762c836e81c8
Sorry I am new to this but look up that website
Isn't that just another message board & that is someone's post? :shrug:
William Anthony
02-13-2007, 10:03 AM
Ok here is the link this is what I was talking about. Commanding officer Constance Dial is charge of narcotics unit
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.oj-simpson/browse_thread/thread/ad4b638ccc8b0f4d/2e6d762c836e81c8%232e6d762c836e81c8
Sorry I am new to this but look up that website
I do remember the name of Constance Dial being mentioned during the criminal trial, although I am not sure of the context in which it was mentioned.
fbgweezer
02-13-2007, 11:51 AM
Ok here is the link this is what I was talking about. Commanding officer Constance Dial is charge of narcotics unit
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.oj-simpson/browse_thread/thread/ad4b638ccc8b0f4d/2e6d762c836e81c8%232e6d762c836e81c8
Sorry I am new to this but look up that website
Sorry but I don't see the connection except someone wrote in their post -- quoting from an article/book. Maybe you could be a little more specific in your conclusion/statement that the narcotics unit was called to Bundy the night of the murders?
martin II
02-13-2007, 12:07 PM
Sorry but I don't see the connection except someone wrote in their post -- quoting from an article/book. Maybe you could be a little more specific in your conclusion/statement that the narcotics unit was called to Bundy the night of the murders?
weezer
i guess one would have to look at the LA TIMES archives to find the story.
If true then my question is why was this unit at Bundy on 6/12/
martin II
fbgweezer
02-13-2007, 12:30 PM
weezer
i guess one would have to look at the LA TIMES archives to find the story.
If true then my question is why was this unit at Bundy on 6/12/
martin II
that's not even what the blog says -- good grief martin!
martin II
02-13-2007, 12:46 PM
that's not even what the blog says -- good grief martin!
weezer
now maby you can tell me what this says.
gees weezer can you read.
blog.
March 1, 1996: The LOS ANGELES TIMES reported a new scandal in a story
headlined "LAPD Drug OFficer Being Investigated." The charge involved
the Field Enforcement Section of the LAPD Narcotics Group. This unit
was under the command of Captain Constance Dial--who had been one of
thsoe in charge of the Bundy crime scene on June 12, 1994. The story
began: "Authorities fear detectives may have lied on court
documents..." On the same day, another story in the same paper is
headlined: Deputy Accused of Planting Evidence Surrenders.
captain dial was definately at Bundy early on as she is referred to in Commander Bushey's testimony.
fbgweezer
02-13-2007, 12:51 PM
weezer
now maby you can tell me what this says.
gees weezer can you read.
blog.
March 1, 1996: The LOS ANGELES TIMES reported a new scandal in a story
headlined "LAPD Drug OFficer Being Investigated." The charge involved
the Field Enforcement Section of the LAPD Narcotics Group. This unit
was under the command of Captain Constance Dial--who had been one of
thsoe in charge of the Bundy crime scene on June 12, 1994. The story
began: "Authorities fear detectives may have lied on court
documents..." On the same day, another story in the same paper is
headlined: Deputy Accused of Planting Evidence Surrenders.
captain dial was definately at Bundy early on as she is referred to in Commander Bushey's testimony.
and? what does that have to do with lie that the narcotics unit was called to Bundy the night of the murders?
martin II
02-13-2007, 01:18 PM
and? what does that have to do with lie that the narcotics unit was called to Bundy the night of the murders?
weezer
First. you do agree that the blog referred to a story in the LA TIMES.
I don't know if it is a lie or not that is why i suggested that the facts would be found in the LA TIMES.(WHICH YOU DID NOT UINDERSTAND)
I don't know if it is true and you do not know if it is a lie.
But she definately was on scene.
martin II
fbgweezer
02-13-2007, 04:09 PM
weezer
First. you do agree that the blog referred to a story in the LA TIMES.
I don't know if it is a lie or not that is why i suggested that the facts would be found in the LA TIMES.(WHICH YOU DID NOT UINDERSTAND)
I don't know if it is true and you do not know if it is a lie.
But she definately was on scene.
martin II
martin -- it doesn't matter if the blog referred to the Bible.........there is no evidence/proof that the narcotics unit was called to Bundy the night of the murders. The fact that the poster had to resort to reposting some guy's blog is a joke.
martin II
02-13-2007, 05:33 PM
martin -- it doesn't matter if the blog referred to the Bible.........there is no evidence/proof that the narcotics unit was called to Bundy the night of the murders. The fact that the poster had to resort to reposting some guy's blog is a joke.
weeaer
C Dial was at the murder scene and had some level of authority.Whether she was there as a narcotic offices is what is unknows so far.imo
a poster posting on a blog has just as much chance of posting something that is true as you or anyone else here.imo
martin II
martin II
02-13-2007, 05:41 PM
weeaer
C Dial was at the murder scene and had some level of authority.Whether she was there as a narcotic offices is what is unknows so far.imo
a poster posting on a blog has just as much chance of posting something that is true as you or anyone else here.imo
martin II
ps weezer
why do you find it so impossible that a narcotic unit would be dispatched to a murder scene like the one at bundy. I assume that there were many different different le squards dispatched to this scene especially considering how the murders were commited and rons connection to that drug resturant Mazzalouna.The DEA or local lapd could have been investigatin drugs at bundy especially since Faye and the friends she had caused to be at nicoles
( which nicole did not like)could have been suspect. Faye was freebasing cocain at nicoles. imo
martin II
socaldiva
02-13-2007, 08:18 PM
*snip*
why do you find it so impossible that a narcotic unit would be dispatched to a murder scene like the one at bundy.
Are you kidding? The defense would have jumped all over this had it been true.
William Anthony
02-15-2007, 10:43 AM
weeaer
C Dial was at the murder scene and had some level of authority.Whether she was there as a narcotic offices is what is unknows so far.imo
a poster posting on a blog has just as much chance of posting something that is true as you or anyone else here.imo
martin II
Martin,
If she was there, she was not a part of the media. She was there in her capacity, imho. The only ones who were there not in their capacity were Roberts and the MF, imho. If she was there out of curiosity, then LE further compromised the crime scene. imho. Maybe, she brough the coffee and pastries?
socaldiva
02-15-2007, 11:42 PM
Martin,
If she was there, she was not a part of the media. She was there in her capacity, imho. The only ones who were there not in their capacity were Roberts and the MF, imho. If she was there out of curiosity, then LE further compromised the crime scene. imho. Maybe, she brough the coffee and pastries?
You are mistaken about Roberts & MF & your sterotypical offering relative to coffee & donuts seems to be a tad sexist as well. :no:
2L8 4A D8
02-16-2007, 02:14 AM
You are mistaken about Roberts & MF & your sterotypical offering relative to coffee & donuts seems to be a tad sexist as well. :no:
OMGawd Diva! Do you realize that you have just opened yourself up to receiving the following in answer to your post? ~ I CONSIDER THIS A PERSONAL ATTACK AND HIGHLY OFFENSIVE AND INSULTING! OMGawd!
JMO and MOO!!
William Anthony
02-16-2007, 08:28 AM
You are mistaken about Roberts & MF & your sterotypical offering relative to coffee & donuts seems to be a tad sexist as well. :no:
Oh contraire, your comment seems to be sexist. Are you suggesting that women police officers do not have the same right as male police officers to go after coffee and pastries?
William Anthony
02-16-2007, 08:29 AM
OMGawd Diva! Do you realize that you have just opened yourself up to receiving the following in answer to your post? ~ I CONSIDER THIS A PERSONAL ATTACK AND HIGHLY OFFENSIVE AND INSULTING! OMGawd!
JMO and MOO!!
Please, try to refrain from speaking for me, as I find such attempts OFFENSIVE.
martin II
02-16-2007, 08:32 AM
Martin,
If she was there, she was not a part of the media. She was there in her capacity, imho. The only ones who were there not in their capacity were Roberts and the MF, imho. If she was there out of curiosity, then LE further compromised the crime scene. imho. Maybe, she brough the coffee and pastries?
william
Dial was there in her capacity as commander of one of the groups of lapd.
She had conversations with the watch commander about his order to notify simpson and the crime scene. So she was there as a lapd officer.
martin II
fbgweezer
02-16-2007, 08:37 AM
william
Dial was there in her capacity as commander of one of the groups of lapd.
She had conversations with the watch commander about his order to notify simpson and the crime scene. So she was there as a lapd officer.
martin II
what does this have to do with the allegations that the narcotics unit was called to Bundy the night of the murders?
William Anthony
02-16-2007, 08:41 AM
william
Dial was there in her capacity as commander of one of the groups of lapd.
She had conversations with the watch commander about his order to notify simpson and the crime scene. So she was there as a lapd officer.
martin II
Martin,
I agree completely, and, if she was the head of the narcotics unit, she was there in that capacity, i. e. meaning the narcotics unit was called to the scene. Whether they were called there to investigate remains murky.
fbgweezer
02-16-2007, 08:50 AM
Martin,
I agree completely, and, if she was the head of the narcotics unit, she was there in that capacity, i. e. meaning the narcotics unit was called to the scene. Whether they were called there to investigate remains murky.
was she there as 'head of the narcotics unit'?
William Anthony
02-16-2007, 08:54 AM
was she there as 'head of the narcotics unit'?
Did she loose the title before she arrived?
martin II
02-16-2007, 09:06 AM
was she there as 'head of the narcotics unit'?
weezer
When there is a big unanswered murder scene it is not unusual for various sections of a police department to be sent to the crime scene to do their own investigatioon of the murders.
I do not find it unusual that a narcotic unit would be called to the scene to see if there is any connection to any other case they may be working on.
Lapd usually knows who is distributing drugs in their area. They have ongoing investigations of drug people in the area.
Faye was getting cocaine from her suppliers on a regular basis when she was living at nicoles house. Nicole said faye had caused bad people to come to her house to see faye.
Do you think that lapd narcotics unit did not know these people and that they were visiting nicole house?
martin II
martin II
02-16-2007, 09:19 AM
was she there as 'head of the narcotics unit'?
weezer
Irish Spring and Dove, Dial is a well-known brand name for bar soap. Captain Constance Dial, who headed the Field Enforcement Division of the LAPD’s Narcotics Group, was the highest-ranking officer on Bundy. As the dispatch officer, it was her job to send police units as needed to Bundy and Rockingham.
http://www.smartfellowspress.com/smokinggun/smokinggun2/Doubles.html
martin II
fbgweezer
02-16-2007, 09:42 AM
weezer
When there is a big unanswered murder scene it is not unusual for various sections of a police department to be sent to the crime scene to do their own investigatioon of the murders.
I do not find it unusual that a narcotic unit would be called to the scene to see if there is any connection to any other case they may be working on.
Lapd usually knows who is distributing drugs in their area. They have ongoing investigations of drug people in the area.
Faye was getting cocaine from her suppliers on a regular basis when she was living at nicoles house. Nicole said faye had caused bad people to come to her house to see faye.
Do you think that lapd narcotics unit did not know these people and that they were visiting nicole house?
martin II
put up or shut up with your allegation that the narcotics units was called to Bundy the night of the murders. Either you can prove up this statement or not.
socaldiva
02-16-2007, 12:21 PM
Oh contraire, your comment seems to be sexist. Are you suggesting that women police officers do not have the same right as male police officers to go after coffee and pastries?
More twist & spin from William Anthony. No surprise there.....YOU are the one that implied that one of the only possible reasons the female officer would be there is to pass out coffee & pastries.
William Anthony
02-16-2007, 12:36 PM
More twist & spin from William Anthony. No surprise there.....YOU are the one that implied that one of the only possible reasons the female officer would be there is to pass out coffee & pastries.
I said that she may have brought the coffee and pastries, which you implied may be a sexiest comment. I then told you that your comment may be sexist, because women have the equal right to bring coffee and pastries as do men. The men had to wait at the scene, according to some Gs, even though they had been relieved. It is entirely possible, if there were coffee and pastries at the scene, that the men explained they could not leave and asked Ms. Dial to bring them some coffee and pastries. You seem to be destined for some reason to place a negative connotation on all my posts. I think that equality mandates that both men and women have equal opportunities.
fbgweezer
02-16-2007, 12:53 PM
I said that she may have brought the coffee and pastries, which you implied may be a sexiest comment. I then told you that your comment may be sexist, because women have the equal right to bring coffee and pastries as do men. The men had to wait at the scene, according to some Gs, even though they had been relieved. It is entirely possible, if there were coffee and pastries at the scene, that the men explained they could not leave and asked Ms. Dial to bring them some coffee and pastries. You seem to be destined for some reason to place a negative connotation on all my posts. I think that equality mandates that both men and women have equal opportunities.
I believe it was the mafia/drug cartel/anyone else but orenthal that murdered Nicole and Ron that brought the coffee and doughnuts.
William Anthony
02-16-2007, 01:04 PM
I believe it was the mafia/drug cartel/anyone else but orenthal that murdered Nicole and Ron that brought the coffee and doughnuts.
You are entitled to your belief. Do you know how LE got the hallucinogens, if they did, that caused them to act so unprofessionally?
fbgweezer
02-16-2007, 01:06 PM
You are entitled to your belief. Do you know how LE got the hallucinogens, if they did, that caused them to act so unprofessionally?
oh -- when we cannot defend the perpetrator, we attack LE again........you are so lame.
William Anthony
02-16-2007, 01:24 PM
oh -- when we cannot defend the perpetrator, we attack LE again........you are so lame.
I will ask you to stop referring to me as LAME. I do not understand your comment. Let me post the post you posted with punctuation marks, so that you may see what you said.
"I believe it was the mafia/drug cartel/anyone else, but orenthal, that murdered Nicole and Ron that brought the coffee and doughnuts."
Therefore I was not defending the perpetrator, i. e. the mafia/drug cartel/anyone else that murdered Nicole and Ron. My thought on the hallucinogens was inartfully phrased. What I meant was what were you beliefs on the possibility of the LE injesting hallucinogens, because C. Dial was at the scene. In other words, do you believe that LE found some hallucinogens before the narcotics commander?
socaldiva
02-16-2007, 03:18 PM
*snip*
I said that she may have brought the coffee and pastries, which you implied may be a sexiest comment.
You don't need to repost what was already posted & try to spin it for me. I'm well aware of what transpired in the posts & I've already stated my opinion of your post. I'm sticking with it.....
William Anthony
02-16-2007, 03:26 PM
You don't need to repost what was already posted & try to spin it for me. I'm well aware of what transpired in the posts & I've already stated my opinion of your post. I'm sticking with it.....
I was not spinning; only clarifying. Since you remain obstinate, :seeya: :seeya:
socaldiva
02-16-2007, 03:28 PM
I was not spining; only clarifying. Since you remain obstinate, :seeya: :seeya:
I didn't NEED clarification.
William Anthony
02-16-2007, 03:31 PM
I didn't NEED clarification.
You must have, since you accused me of defending the mafia/drug dealers/anyone else.
martin II
02-16-2007, 03:35 PM
put up or shut up with your allegation that the narcotics units was called to Bundy the night of the murders. Either you can prove up this statement or not.
I Posted info that c dial was on scene and that she spoke to the watch commander about the scene and nofitying OJ. 9it is in the watch commanders testimony) show me where i said the "Narcotic unit was called to bundy". otherwise stop doing your usual spinning and twisting of my remarks.
don't tell me to SHUT UP.
martin II
socaldiva
02-16-2007, 03:35 PM
You must have, since you accused me of defending the mafia/drug dealers/anyone else.
You are completely confused. I never posted any such thing :no: :no:
William Anthony
02-16-2007, 03:37 PM
You are completely confused. I never posted any such thing :no: :no:
Look at your lack of punctuation and read your first post. :seeya:
martin II
02-16-2007, 03:37 PM
weezer
Irish Spring and Dove, Dial is a well-known brand name for bar soap. Captain Constance Dial, who headed the Field Enforcement Division of the LAPD’s Narcotics Group, was the highest-ranking officer on Bundy. As the dispatch officer, it was her job to send police units as needed to Bundy and Rockingham.
http://www.smartfellowspress.com/smo...2/Doubles.html
martin II
socaldiva
02-16-2007, 03:41 PM
Look at your lack of punctuation and read your first post. :seeya:
No YOU need to go read it AGAIN. You are confusing me with another poster :punch:
martin II
02-16-2007, 03:45 PM
weezer
Irish Spring and Dove, Dial is a well-known brand name for bar soap. Captain Constance Dial, who headed the Field Enforcement Division of the LAPD’s Narcotics Group, was the highest-ranking officer on Bundy. As the dispatch officer, it was her job to send police units as needed to Bundy and Rockingham.
http://www.smartfellowspress.com/smo...2/Doubles.html
martin II
sorry 'this posted twice
socaldiva
02-16-2007, 03:53 PM
weezer
Irish Spring and Dove, Dial is a well-known brand name for bar soap. Captain Constance Dial, who headed the Field Enforcement Division of the LAPD’s Narcotics Group, was the highest-ranking officer on Bundy. As the dispatch officer, it was her job to send police units as needed to Bundy and Rockingham.
http://www.smartfellowspress.com/smo...2/Doubles.html
martin II
sorry 'this posted twice
If you were able to edit this to include your "sorry this posted twice" message, why didn't you just delete the duplicate post? :confused:
More twist & spin from William Anthony. No surprise there.....YOU are the one that implied that one of the only possible reasons the female officer would be there is to pass out coffee & pastries.
I thought that was a real funny answer ... Not insulting at all -- and I am a woman, too.
William Anthony
02-16-2007, 03:56 PM
No YOU need to go read it AGAIN. You are confusing me with another poster :punch:
You are correct. I did confuse the issue, only because you two sound so much alike. I did not spin what you said; only showed you how words are so easily misinterpreted, because they are contingent upon the frame of reference of the receiver. :seeya: :seeya:
socaldiva
02-16-2007, 03:58 PM
I thought that was a real funny answer ... Not insulting at all -- and I am a woman, too.
Just because you don't find it insulting or demeaning, doesn't mean others don't. I never said I was speaking for you.
socaldiva
02-16-2007, 04:00 PM
You are correct. I did confuse the issue, only because you two sound so much alike. I did not spin what you said; only showed you how words are so easily misinterpreted, because they are contingent upon the frame of reference of the receiver. :seeya: :seeya:
What a crock. You were wrong & you have to post that the reason is either that a) fbg & I "sound so much alike" or b) you were illustrating a point. You were just flat out wrong. Why not leave it at that? :rolleyes:
William Anthony
02-16-2007, 04:02 PM
Just because you don't find it insulting or demeaning, doesn't mean others don't. I never said I was speaking for you.
Then why would you try to speak for me by telling me what I meant?
socaldiva
02-16-2007, 04:06 PM
Then why would you try to speak for me by telling me what I meant?
You are confused AGAIN. I did not try to "speak" for you. I told you my impression of what you posted. Here's the original post. Give it a rest already.....
You are mistaken about Roberts & MF & your sterotypical offering relative to coffee & donuts seems to be a tad sexist as well.
Did anyone read about narcotics unit going to the crime scene? Why were they called in the first place? Also, why did it take so long for the police to notice the coroner?
Marissa, to me the second part of your question is the most important. I cannot understand how two dead bodies and the evidence could be exposed to contamination (of whatever kind) for such a long time. Also, waiting that long for the bodies to be examined certainly did not contribute to pinning down the most exact time frame possible. And since there were experienced officers at the crime scene who should know the procedures, it is simply incomprehensible to me ...
In retrospect, though, it makes a whole lot of sense -- I mean after hearing the statements of Mr. Fuhrman, things make a little more sense, in my opinion.
William Anthony
02-16-2007, 04:24 PM
You are confused AGAIN. I did not try to "speak" for you. I told you my impression of what you posted. Here's the original post. Give it a rest already.....
You are mistaken about Roberts & MF & your sterotypical offering relative to coffee & donuts seems to be a tad sexist as well.
Why because, according to them, they could not leave. It is all specualtive and, since Ms. Dial probably told them she was on the way, they asked her to do them a kindness and bring some coffee and pastries. My post has nothing to do with men against women, nor is it in the slighest degree sexists.
These are simply your interpretations-NOT WHAT I MEANT. S please, do not conclusively say what I was implying, unless you have another reason to misinterpret my posts.
socaldiva
02-16-2007, 05:37 PM
Why because, according to them, they could not leave. It is all specualtive and, since Ms. Dial probably told them she was on the way, they asked her to do them a kindness and bring some coffee and pastries. My post has nothing to do with men against women, nor is it in the slighest degree sexists.
These are simply your interpretations-NOT WHAT I MEANT. S please, do not conclusively say what I was implying, unless you have another reason to misinterpret my posts.
OMG you are STILL confused and/or spinning. LET IT GO!!!!!
William Anthony
02-17-2007, 11:56 AM
OMG you are STILL confused and/or spinning. LET IT GO!!!!!
Whatever, :seeya: :seeya:
Kayleighjo
02-22-2007, 08:32 AM
I thought that was a real funny answer ... Not insulting at all -- and I am a woman, too.
It never ceases to amaze me that research shows that women ususally stick up for men and not for other women.
I'm with socal on this one ... it sounded like a sexist dig.
William Anthony
02-22-2007, 08:41 AM
It never ceases to amaze me that research shows that women ususally stick up for men and not for other women.
I'm with socal on this one ... it sounded like a sexist dig.
Then did you think Socaldiva's was sexist's, since I am assuming that you are willing to stick up for men? I clarified my position on what I meant and I think that this has become a moot issue. I have received an infraction point and I now notice that you have entered the fray on a subject that was settled. I encourage your participation in the discussion of the issues on the Simpson case and look forward to engaging with you in an open, honest, respectful, cordial, and professional discussion.
Kayleighjo
02-22-2007, 08:54 AM
Then did you think Socaldiva's was sexist's, since I am assuming that you are willing to stick up for men? I clarified my position on what I meant and I think that this has become a moot issue. I have received an infraction point and I now notice that you have entered the fray on a subject that was settled. I encourage your participation in the discussion of the issues on the Simpson case and look forward to engaging with you in an open, honest, respectful, cordial, and professional discussion.
I've been out of this forum for a while, and when I come back I will respond to anything that I feel warrants response and I don't care if it's something you recieved an infraction point for.
You seem to think that when it comes to an issue that's gotten you in trouble that people ought to just stay out of the "fray" but I notice that you have no problem jumping right on in to every one else's "fray" William. It's rare that I see you let an issue drop.
So until you're willing to follow suit, I'd suggest you cease the lecture.
martin II
02-22-2007, 09:09 AM
Then did you think Socaldiva's was sexist's, since I am assuming that you are willing to stick up for men? I clarified my position on what I meant and I think that this has become a moot issue. I have received an infraction point and I now notice that you have entered the fray on a subject that was settled. I encourage your participation in the discussion of the issues on the Simpson case and look forward to engaging with you in an open, honest, respectful, cordial, and professional discussion.
william
politically and otherwise i see women sticking up for other women in a very strong way in everyday life.( a good thing) If this were not true then women would be in the same position they found themselves prior to the civil rights movement in America.
martin II
William Anthony
02-22-2007, 09:21 AM
I've been out of this forum for a while, and when I come back I will respond to anything that I feel warrants response and I don't care if it's something you recieved an infraction point for.
You seem to think that when it comes to an issue that's gotten you in trouble that people ought to just stay out of the "fray" but I notice that you have no problem jumping right on in to every one else's "fray" William. It's rare that I see you let an issue drop.
So until you're willing to follow suit, I'd suggest you cease the lecture.
There is no need for you to respond in this type of manner. The fact that you were away for a long time was not caused by anything that I did. I was simply informing you that the matter was moot and that I had posted my explanation of what I meant, which had been misconstrued. This is not an issue. This was simply a misunderstanding of what I meant by my post, which I clarified. The issues that I involve myself in surround the case. You involved yourself in an issue that was only, at best, tangentially related to the case and which had been resolved. I was only explaining that to you so that old wounds would not be reopened. I hope you did not stop reading the posts before you read my clarification.
Kayleighjo
02-22-2007, 09:56 AM
There is no need for you to respond in this type of manner. The fact that you were away for a long time was not caused by anything that I did. I was simply informing you that the matter was moot and that I had posted my explanation of what I meant, which had been misconstrued. This is not an issue. This was simply a misunderstanding of what I meant by my post, which I clarified. The issues that I involve myself in surround the case. You involved yourself in an issue that was only, at best, tangentially related to the case and which had been resolved. I was only explaining that to you so that old wounds would not be reopened. I hope you did not stop reading the posts before you read my clarification.
Yes, there was a need.
Was my original response even directed to you? I believe it was directed to the chick who found the remark funny even though she's a woman. Why should I not respond to that? And what, really, does it even have to do with you ... other than the fact that it originated from a remark you made at one point.
You seem to make alot of remarks that are suspect, and then eventually "clarify" them when you realize it's going to cause you an issue.
Not my problem.
William Anthony
02-22-2007, 10:26 AM
Yes, there was a need.
Was my original response even directed to you? I believe it was directed to the chick who found the remark funny even though she's a woman. Why should I not respond to that? And what, really, does it even have to do with you ... other than the fact that it originated from a remark you made at one point.
You seem to make alot of remarks that are suspect, and then eventually "clarify" them when you realize it's going to cause you an issue.
Not my problem.
Almost everything is suspect, because it lends itself to interpretation. I am not trying to have an argument with you, and, yes, you are right I responded, in part, because it concerned a post I made and to explain the misinterpretation had been clarified. As an example, one may say that your use of the word chick is offensive, demeaning, insulting and sexist. I did not take it that way. I see no need to turn an ant hill into Mt. Everest.
With that said, I am going to try to locate your post on the other thread, because you posed a provocative (thought producing) hypothesis. Those types of questions are needed on this board, imho, and I would like to thank you for that post. It had to do with jury verdicts. As soon as I locate it I will respond.
socaldiva
02-22-2007, 03:02 PM
*snip*Then did you think Socaldiva's was sexist's
Don't you ever drop the bickering??? You need to drag up my name AGAIN! I did not make a sexist remark. That's just more spin on your part. You mentioned you received an infraction point. I have NOT. That should give you a clue.
William Anthony
02-22-2007, 04:16 PM
Don't you ever drop the bickering??? You need to drag up my name AGAIN! I did not make a sexist remark. That's just more spin on your part. You mentioned you received an infraction point. I have NOT. That should give you a clue.
It does give me a clue!!! I asked did the poster, who came late and reopened the close subject AND BROUGHT MY REMARK UP, find your remark sexist. I DID NOT SAY YOU MADE A SEXIST REMARK. THIS IS ONLY CONFIRMATION OF HOW WORDS ARE INTERPRETED DIFFERENTLY. :seeya: :seeya:
william
politically and otherwise i see women sticking up for other women in a very strong way in everyday life.( a good thing) If this were not true then women would be in the same position they found themselves prior to the civil rights movement in America.
martin II
Count me out please!!!!
William Anthony
02-22-2007, 04:58 PM
Count me out please!!!!
There is a solidarity of women that is more than national, imho. I will not comment any further so that my comments will not be misconstrued. I will say that I find this post to be inspirational in a cosmic and platonic manner.
... "to the chick" ?????
Sexist, sexist, sexist! lol
socaldiva
02-22-2007, 08:27 PM
*snip*
DID NOT SAY YOU MADE A SEXIST REMARK. THIS IS ONLY CONFIRMATION OF HOW WORDS ARE INTERPRETED DIFFERENTLY. :seeya: :seeya:
More twist & spin from William. You asked the poster if they found my post to be sexist! :rolleyes: You keep waving goodbye, yet you can't seem to refrain from posting to/about me.
William Anthony
02-22-2007, 08:41 PM
More twist & spin from William. You asked the poster if they found my post to be sexist! :rolleyes: You keep waving goodbye, yet you can't seem to refrain from posting to/about me.
Just correcting you. :seeya: :seeya:
socaldiva
02-22-2007, 08:50 PM
Just correcting you. :seeya: :seeya:
No, you're just embarrassing yourself more. You didn't correct me, you were WRONG.
William Anthony
02-22-2007, 08:52 PM
No, you're just embarrassing yourself more. You didn't correct me, you were WRONG.
:seeya: :seeya: :seeya:
socaldiva
02-22-2007, 08:54 PM
:seeya: :seeya: :seeya:
Glad to see you waving goodbye! Hopefully you will refrain from posting to and about me in the future! You started yesterday with personal remarks & I am SICK OF IT!
William Anthony
02-22-2007, 08:57 PM
Glad to see you waving goodbye! Hopefully you will refrain from posting to and about me in the future! You started yesterday with personal remarks & I am SICK OF IT!
:seeya: :seeya: :seeya:
More twist & spin from William. You asked the poster if they found my post to be sexist! :rolleyes: You keep waving goodbye, yet you can't seem to refrain from posting to/about me.
If you insinuate that WA asked ME, you are not telling the truth. I responded on my own because I thought the remark was really funny. Son't start that stuff with me.
socaldiva
02-22-2007, 10:53 PM
If you insinuate that WA asked ME, you are not telling the truth. I responded on my own because I thought the remark was really funny. Son't start that stuff with me.
I did not insinuate that WA asked you.I was referring to the post he made to Kayleighjo. You really should read & know what you are talking about before you jump in. You are confused.
socaldiva
02-22-2007, 11:20 PM
... "to the chick" ?????
Sexist, sexist, sexist! lol
Since when is "chick" a "sexist" remark? The dictionary says it's slang for a girl or a woman. ;)
Kayleighjo
02-23-2007, 08:38 AM
... "to the chick" ?????
Sexist, sexist, sexist! lol
Hence the point of my use in that word toward you since you're the chick that finds nothing sexist and doesn't believe in sticking up for other woman.
Shoulda known that would fly right over though. ;)
William Anthony
02-23-2007, 08:56 AM
Since when is "chick" a "sexist" remark? The dictionary says it's slang for a girl or a woman. ;)
yes, it was a slang and slang words have meanings other than what is in the dictionary. For instance, younger adults refer to a whip as a car. Therefore, words like chick, dish, dish, dame have several meanings other than what is stated in the dictionary. You could have easily have used the words lady or girl. I simply stated that some may see your use of the word as sexist, not that it was. This is such a minor point and there is no sense in turning an ant hill into Mt. Everest. If I could, let me respectfully suggest that we get back on topic.
socaldiva
02-23-2007, 09:37 AM
*snip*
yes, it was a slang and slang words have meanings other than what is in the dictionary.
:seeya: :seeya: :seeya:
martin II
02-23-2007, 10:08 AM
yes, it was a slang and slang words have meanings other than what is in the dictionary. For instance, younger adults refer to a whip as a car. Therefore, words like chick, dish, dish, dame have several meanings other than what is stated in the dictionary. You could have easily have used the words lady or girl. I simply stated that some may see your use of the word as sexist, not that it was. This is such a minor point and there is no sense in turning an ant hill into Mt. Everest. If I could, let me respectfully suggest that we get back on topic.
wiliam
I dont have a dog in this fight but for what it is worth here is a definition of the word i found.
chick n 1. a female. The term is considered offensive by many females, but is used by other females to describe themselves (e.g. "biker chicks.") female
martin II
William Anthony
02-23-2007, 10:20 AM
wiliam
I dont have a dog in this fight but for what it is worth here is a definition of the word i found.
chick n 1. a female. The term is considered offensive by many females, but is used by other females to describe themselves (e.g. "biker chicks.") female
martin II
Martin,
Thank you for your assistance in this matter. I hope that we can finally put this topic to rest as we have recently been engaging in some interesting discussions on the evidence in this case.
Speaking of the evidence, since Simpson testified that he could not recall whether or not he cut his finger earlier that day, it would explain the prosecution's failure to call Roberts to verify or to mention the blood allegedly seen on the light switch. It is consisten with the testimony of other impartial witness, who saw Simpson on his way to the airport, at the airport, on the plane, and in Chicago, because he had cut it earlier and the cut had healed.
Kayleighjo
02-23-2007, 10:23 AM
yes, it was a slang and slang words have meanings other than what is in the dictionary. For instance, younger adults refer to a whip as a car. Therefore, words like chick, dish, dish, dame have several meanings other than what is stated in the dictionary. You could have easily have used the words lady or girl. I simply stated that some may see your use of the word as sexist, not that it was. This is such a minor point and there is no sense in turning an ant hill into Mt. Everest. If I could, let me respectfully suggest that we get back on topic.
It was me that used the word "chick", not socal.
See my response of why I used it toward the chick that finds nothing sexist and has no issues in stating that she doesn't stand up for other women.
I, at least, admit to the true meaning behind why I've used a word.
William Anthony
02-23-2007, 10:39 AM
It was me that used the word "chick", not socal.
See my response of why I used it toward the chick that finds nothing sexist and has no issues in stating that she doesn't stand up for other women.
I, at least, admit to the true meaning behind why I've used a word.
I think this has gone far too far from making any sense. This all started when I made the remark about Dial may have brought coffee and pastries. Then Socaldiva responded that she found that sexist in that womens should serve (or something like that) men coffee. I then told her that her remak could be interpreted to be sexists in that women should have the same opportunity to bring coffee (or something like that). You then responsded that you found my remark sexist and I asked you did you find Socaldiva's remark sexist. You then called a female a chickm which led to our subsequent conversations.
I never said that anyone made a sexist remark. This whole thing is getting childish and I would like to discuss the evidence with those of like inclinations.
I hope this clears everything up. If it does not, then I must inform you that I will not be participating in any more conversations on this subject. I apologize for any miisunderstandings and will attempt to make my posts clearer, even though I think they are.
I think this has gone far too far from making any sense. This all started when I made the remark about Dial may have brought coffee and pastries. Then Socaldiva responded that she found that sexist in that womens should serve (or something like that) men coffee. I then told her that her remak could be interpreted to be sexists in that women should have the same opportunity to bring coffee (or something like that). You then responsded that you found my remark sexist and I asked you did you find Socaldiva's remark sexist. You then called a female a chickm which led to our subsequent conversations.
I never said that anyone made a sexist remark. This whole thing is getting childish and I would like to discuss the evidence with those of like inclinations.
I hope this clears everything up. If it does not, then I must inform you that I will not be participating in any more conversations on this subject. I apologize for any miisunderstandings and will attempt to make my posts clearer, even though I think they are.
See, William, why I don't stand up for woman in general? Because they do not hesitate to use sexist slurs themselves -- against other women -- if they feel like insulting someone. ;) I stick up for any person I have reason to believe is treated unfairly -- but never for the entire group they belong to (or claim to belong to, if it serves their purpose.) I am sure you understand what I mean ... :) I do not consider myself being a herd animal ... lol
William Anthony
02-23-2007, 12:20 PM
See, William, why I don't stand up for woman in general? Because they do not hesitate to use sexist slurs themselves -- against other women -- if they feel like insulting someone. ;) I stick up for any person I have reason to believe is treated unfairly -- but never for the entire group they belong to (or claim to belong to, if it serves their purpose.) I am sure you understand what I mean ... :)
Yes, as I am sure you understand what my post meant about inspiration. I have a problem that I have been dealing with, which I feel is the source of much confusion on this board. Some do not understand, imho, that fair and justice are two different concepts. I see your sense of both, which serves to inspire me.
socaldiva
02-23-2007, 03:29 PM
*snip*
I do not consider myself being a herd animal ... lol
You have no business implying that anyone here is a "herd animal" :no:
socaldiva
02-23-2007, 03:33 PM
*snip*
I think this has gone far too far from making any sense.
:confused: :shrug: :seeya:
martin II
02-24-2007, 07:58 AM
See, William, why I don't stand up for woman in general? Because they do not hesitate to use sexist slurs themselves -- against other women -- if they feel like insulting someone. ;) I stick up for any person I have reason to believe is treated unfairly -- but never for the entire group they belong to (or claim to belong to, if it serves their purpose.) I am sure you understand what I mean ... :) I do not consider myself being a herd animal ... lol
n.n.
I understand your point and agree with your position. There is really no more honorable position to take.
martin II
Kayleighjo
02-26-2007, 01:18 PM
I think this has gone far too far from making any sense. This all started when I made the remark about Dial may have brought coffee and pastries. Then Socaldiva responded that she found that sexist in that womens should serve (or something like that) men coffee. I then told her that her remak could be interpreted to be sexists in that women should have the same opportunity to bring coffee (or something like that). You then responsded that you found my remark sexist and I asked you did you find Socaldiva's remark sexist. You then called a female a chickm which led to our subsequent conversations.
I never said that anyone made a sexist remark. This whole thing is getting childish and I would like to discuss the evidence with those of like inclinations.
I hope this clears everything up. If it does not, then I must inform you that I will not be participating in any more conversations on this subject. I apologize for any miisunderstandings and will attempt to make my posts clearer, even though I think they are.
Why has it gone too far from making sense? Because you were wrong?
The kicker with you here William is that you state it's childish, and yet I see you engaging in childish wars all over this forum.
You're obviously smart, but you continue to do yourself an injustice with your behavior inconsistencies.
William Anthony
02-26-2007, 04:17 PM
Why has it gone too far from making sense? Because you were wrong?
The kicker with you here William is that you state it's childish, and yet I see you engaging in childish wars all over this forum.
You're obviously smart, but you continue to do yourself an injustice with your behavior inconsistencies.
I end my inconsistencies, now.l :seeya:
martin II
02-26-2007, 10:56 PM
I end my inconsistencies, now.l :seeya:
william
i guess you got that.
martin II
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