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Sasha1122
01-16-2007, 11:13 AM
I found an article in the Courier News in Russellville about Kevin Jones' activities during Christmas. I hope this makes people wake up and see what kind of people Whiteside and Jones are.
On 12/28/06, Ryan Whiteside (who "found" Nona's body along with Kevin Jones and his mother) allegedly drugged and raped a girl at his apartment. He slipped drugs into a glass of water and proceeded to assault her. Other people were at the apartment, including Kevin Jones who watched as the girl was raped by Whiteside and another man. One of Jones' good friends, Chelsey Huckaby, was also there. She allegedly saw the victim crying, and saw both Whiteside and the other man (Simmons) as they sexually assaulted the girl. Huckaby stated that Jones was "standing by the side of the bed watching" as Simmons had sex with the girl. The girl work up the next morning disorientated and sore, and couldn't remember much. Apparently, her cousin got the whole story from Huckaby. The police are investigating this incident.
I will try to get the link on here so that everyone can read this story. It literally made me ill!
FDInLaw
01-16-2007, 11:45 AM
I found an article in the Courier News in Russellville about Kevin Jones' activities during Christmas. I hope this makes people wake up and see what kind of people Whiteside and Jones are.
On 12/28/06, Ryan Whiteside (who "found" Nona's body along with Kevin Jones and his mother) allegedly drugged and raped a girl at his apartment. He slipped drugs into a glass of water and proceeded to assault her. Other people were at the apartment, including Kevin Jones who watched as the girl was raped by Whiteside and another man. One of Jones' good friends, Chelsey Huckaby, was also there. She allegedly saw the victim crying, and saw both Whiteside and the other man (Simmons) as they sexually assaulted the girl. Huckaby stated that Jones was "standing by the side of the bed watching" as Simmons had sex with the girl. The girl work up the next morning disorientated and sore, and couldn't remember much. Apparently, her cousin got the whole story from Huckaby. The police are investigating this incident.
I will try to get the link on here so that everyone can read this story. It literally made me ill!
Welcome to the board, Sasha!
This topic is being discussed on Nona's main thread. . . do check it out if you haven't. Creating a new thread for the topic is not a bad idea though!
I feel uncomfortable about some of what you wrote. . . bad kids can come from good families. I'm not convinced that the Jones and Whiteside families are totally degenerate as a whole. Guess I really just don't know the families well enough to come to any real conclusions and generalizations make me uncomfortable in general. However, I don't think it would hurt to try to be more compassionate. These events have tore the community apart and a little kindness goes a long way. MOO
Sasha1122
01-16-2007, 12:35 PM
My daughter attends Arkansas Tech University, and just knowing that people like Ryan Whiteside and Kevin Jones are in the community is a source of great concern to me.
I noticed that no charges are going to be made against any of these boys because of inconsistencies in the victim's statements. That does not, however, make me feel comfortable and I doubt that any mother of any daughter would feel better about this whole situation. These guys, for lack of a better word, are clearly degenerates. Here is a boy, about to be on trial for his life, and what does he do????? He chooses to attend a party given by another boy (who also has questionable ties to the Dirksmeier murder) and watch his lowlife buddies have sex with an unconscious girl. That speaks volumes about his character, or rather his lack of character.
FDInLaw
01-16-2007, 12:42 PM
My daughter attends Arkansas Tech University, and just knowing that people like Ryan Whiteside and Kevin Jones are in the community is a source of great concern to me.
I noticed that no charges are going to be made against any of these boys because of inconsistencies in the victim's statements. That does not, however, make me feel comfortable and I doubt that any mother of any daughter would feel better about this whole situation. These guys, for lack of a better word, are clearly degenerates. Here is a boy, about to be on trial for his life, and what does he do????? He chooses to attend a party given by another boy (who also has questionable ties to the Dirksmeier murder) and watch his lowlife buddies have sex with an unconscious girl. That speaks volumes about his character, or rather his lack of character.
I completely and wholeheartedly agree. It is terribly disturbing what Kevin and his friends are engaging in. I think the community as a whole needs to wake up. You are not alone in your disgust and concern.
FDInLaw
01-16-2007, 01:51 PM
What's truly disturbing is that there are people who will come here and defend these boys and their actions. The bottom line in all of this is that good boys don't get accused of murder, good boys and girls don't engage in parties involving underage drinking, drugs and gang rape. Regardless of whether charges are ultimately filed or not, good people don't get accused of these type of heinous crimes without some basis in fact. Innocent, good people just don't find themselves embroiled with the legal system to this extent. Yes, FD, the community needs to wake up and acknowledge that there is a serious problem that could detrimentally impact their youth. JMHO.
It's past time for a wake up call. Someone the other day posted that if they were Kevin they would be out parting too (a honestly forget who, and please don't feel picked on whom ever you are). . . there seems to be a naive notion in play in this community. These boys have gone beyond consuming a few beers IMO. Where are their families? If I were the Whitesides I would be horrified that such a party was hosted by my son in my home. Has anyone heard if they have read him the riot act? What are they doing to intervene? Someone is bound to get on here and take up the "what can parents really do once their kid is eighteen" argument. My response is PLENTY. If your kid is living at home with you, grow a back bone and draft up some rules you intend to enforce. . . AS A PARENT YOU ARE LIABLE FOR WHAT GOES ON IN YOUR HOME! This may sound harsh, but if one of my kids ever hosted such a party in my home they would be out on the curb in a flash (and, depending on what occurred, Mom might even drag him/her down to the police station). If a young adult can not abide by the rules of your home it's time for them to move out and learn what it's like to make it on their own. The more I think about this, the more I wonder how the families are dealing with this. Has anyone heard?
FDInLaw
01-16-2007, 02:35 PM
I'm sure, like all of us with children at home, the Whitesides had some sort of articulated or understood rules of the house. IMO, if a kid disregards the rules put forth by their own parents, what kind of regard are they going to have for the rules/laws of society? In this particular case, it appears they neither set of rules were of importance to the players involved. JMHO.
Well stated. IMO the community should be outraged.
lorettalockhorn
01-16-2007, 03:48 PM
Sasha, I agree that the parents of young women should be alarmed that a killer is on the loose. Either one that has not been charged or one that has no intention of cleaning up his act.
As for good people being involved in this type of situation, I do believe that false accusations occur; just don't think that's the case here.
The Whitesides, if they don't have clearcut rules against underage drinking and partying in their home; SHOULD! And if this type of thing happens again, the prosecutor should consider holding them responsible for providing the opportunity for criminal behavior (although underage drinking is "just" a misdemeanor). If this girl had been seriously (physically) injured in the home they would be liable. I can only imagine what kind of emotional damage has been done.
FKfanMoe
01-20-2007, 04:57 PM
My daughter attends Arkansas Tech University, and just knowing that people like Ryan Whiteside and Kevin Jones are in the community is a source of great concern to me.
I noticed that no charges are going to be made against any of these boys because of inconsistencies in the victim's statements. That does not, however, make me feel comfortable and I doubt that any mother of any daughter would feel better about this whole situation. These guys, for lack of a better word, are clearly degenerates. Here is a boy, about to be on trial for his life, and what does he do????? He chooses to attend a party given by another boy (who also has questionable ties to the Dirksmeier murder) and watch his lowlife buddies have sex with an unconscious girl. That speaks volumes about his character, or rather his lack of character.
I've been a resident of the Arkansas River Valley for over thirty years, and we have had murders around here, the most notorious was the R. Gene Simmons murders in Dover. I honestly do not understand why KJ is NOT behind bars because while the " alleged" rape is in question ( from the account I do think rape did occur), the basic facts about the event that he was in the room with his buddy and the victim where they obviously did NOT want others to see what they were doing bothers the heck out of me. Frankly it stinks. The conduct of the two males implies they were up to no good.
And the Russellvlle Police and the prosecutor won't press charges? What do they need, the victim dead with blood all over the two males?
I've heard from people in the Russellville area that the police are not doing their jobs well. The death last year of the older man from injuries sustained while a group of cops " subdued" him ( I forget the man's name) was "investigated" and excused away.
IMO KJ is getting special consideration. If this was average Joe Schmoo, he would be behind bars by now.
Just a little personal info: I've been a true crime reader for over ten years. My screename is FK ( short for Forever Knight, one of my four favorite series), not what you ( ahem) may be thinking.
:lol:
Also about the Courier's reporting: Some years back I was a reporter for a local rag and it's been my experience that the Courier bigwigs are more interested in APA awards and having no serious competition for the news than to actually hire dedicated investigative journalists. I'm not saying the reporter that is covering this is lazy, but the late Laura Schull would have done more in-depth stories. The pay and slim benefits ( if any) are hardly incentive to pound the pavement and take risks.
If the bloody palm print was a transfer print and is of KJ, he was there while the blood was still liquid. As for why he could kill Nona, the true crime cases I have read indicate that he wouldn't need a " rational" reason. If it is true that human males do not mentally mature until about 25 ( heck some NEVER mature :) ) maybe KJ overreacted to something Nona said. But then if the drug incapacitating rape did occur, KJ just could be a self-centered POS.
Moe
FKfanMoe
01-20-2007, 05:26 PM
Thanks Merrick. I was looking through the big thread on this forum last week and decided to register and add my comments. I really don't have any " insider info" on this case and my next door neighbor has relatives in Dover and tells about all the gossip swirling around there. IMO a lot of the gossip is mental flatulence, and like the three ( or one person with three accounts ) members who made this big pretentious fuss on the other thread showed, one has to be very skeptical of claims made by others. However I will say that this case development doesn't feel right, it doesn't feel on the up and up.
You can read about the R. Gen Simmons massacreing his family in " Zero at the Bone". He also went on a shooting spree in Russellville, killing two people before he apparently gave up. One of the local reporters to this case was Laura Schull.
Moe
FDInLaw
01-20-2007, 05:56 PM
Thanks Merrick. I was looking through the big thread on this forum last week and decided to register and add my comments. I really don't have any " insider info" on this case and my next door neighbor has relatives in Dover and tells about all the gossip swirling around there. IMO a lot of the gossip is mental flatulence, and like the three ( or one person with three accounts ) members who made this big pretentious fuss on the other thread showed, one has to be very skeptical of claims made by others. However I will say that this case development doesn't feel right, it doesn't feel on the up and up.
You can read about the R. Gen Simmons massacreing his family in " Zero at the Bone". He also went on a shooting spree in Russellville, killing two people before he apparently gave up. One of the local reporters to this case was Laura Schull.
Moe Welcome to the board! We could use more guys around here! :seeya:
lorettalockhorn
01-20-2007, 09:07 PM
Welcome, FK; for sure we might have different information if Miss Schull was reporting this case. God rest her soul.
FKfanMoe
01-24-2007, 02:53 AM
Welcome to the board! We could use more guys around here! :seeya:
Thanks for the welcome. However last I checked I was a gal, not a guy.
:biggrin:
Moe
FDInLaw
01-25-2007, 05:24 PM
Thanks for the welcome. However last I checked I was a gal, not a guy.
:biggrin:
Moe
Gosh, I'm mortified! Please forgive my obvious inability to identify gender!
:o
sophiafox
01-31-2007, 06:44 PM
Even though there is not enough evidence to file charges cant the victim (and I do think she was drugged and raped) can she civilly sue the Whitesides for underage drinking, drug use and the harm that came to her in THEIR house.
I know in Florida if underage kids are given alcohol at someone's house and they get into an accident the home owner can be sued. Also, couldn't she also sue Kevin and Chealsy for knowing what was going on and not helping her?
I just find it horrible that they did not help. As a mother if my child did that I would have a very, very hard time with it!
lorettalockhorn
02-01-2007, 12:47 AM
Even though there is not enough evidence to file charges cant the victim (and I do think she was drugged and raped) can she civilly sue the Whitesides for underage drinking, drug use and the harm that came to her in THEIR house.
I know in Florida if underage kids are given alcohol at someone's house and they get into an accident the home owner can be sued. Also, couldn't she also sue Kevin and Chealsy for knowing what was going on and not helping her?
I just find it horrible that they did not help. As a mother if my child did that I would have a very, very hard time with it!
I agree with the way that you are thinking but I'm guessing that since the woman waited so long to report the incident that there is no physical proof of what happened. I've read a few sites and the detection time for different drugs varies from one person to the next, but 48-72 hours may just be too long for testing to prove that she had ever had Ecstasy in her system. Am assuming that there also wasn't any DNA evidence remaining. As for the alcohol, it sounds like from the reports that she was drinking willingly, which would make her culpable for breaking the law (also). I don't for one minute think that that makes what is alleged to have happened morally defensible.
I believe her story, but don't see how she would be able to provide any proof of the crimes against her. :(
Brainstorm
02-01-2007, 12:25 PM
I agree with the way that you are thinking but I'm guessing that since the woman waited so long to report the incident that there is no physical proof of what happened. I've read a few sites and the detection time for different drugs varies from one person to the next, but 48-72 hours may just be too long for testing to prove that she had ever had Ecstasy in her system. Am assuming that there also wasn't any DNA evidence remaining. As for the alcohol, it sounds like from the reports that she was drinking willingly, which would make her culpable for breaking the law (also). I don't for one minute think that that makes what is alleged to have happened morally defensible.
I believe her story, but don't see how she would be able to provide any proof of the crimes against her. :(
Ya'll all better keep your girls locked up and keep your EYES on MR JONES<MR>WHITESIDE,& their present company. A killer is still loose IMO
FDInLaw
06-21-2007, 02:22 PM
Bumping thread for christina. . .
nobody
07-21-2007, 10:29 AM
Is it possible that this wasn't the first party? Maybe Nona had dirt on somebody from a previous party (that wasn't reported), that she had planned to spill. Maybe she had been the victim at the last party.
Is it possible that this wasn't the first party? Maybe Nona had dirt on somebody from a previous party (that wasn't reported), that she had planned to spill. Maybe she had been the victim at the last party.
I think anything is possible at this point, unfortunatley.
chambord
07-21-2007, 01:07 PM
Is it possible that this wasn't the first party? Maybe Nona had dirt on somebody from a previous party (that wasn't reported), that she had planned to spill. Maybe she had been the victim at the last party.
Whoa! Interesting! I never thought of that possibilty.
moo
FDInLaw
07-30-2007, 06:39 PM
Question. . . are there any court documents to be had regarding this incident? Has anyone looked deeper?
lorettalockhorn
07-30-2007, 07:03 PM
Question. . . are there any court documents to be had regarding this incident? Has anyone looked deeper?
The Courier's FOIA re: the alleged rape incident report was denied according to the article that they printed yesterday about what Gibbons had to say about the Dirksmeyer case. He didn't elaborate why, but the article made note of that in the same paragraph where it was noted that the FOIA for the State vs. KJ case was also denied.
http://couriernews.com/story.php?ID=15536
hawgustusgloop
09-14-2007, 02:00 PM
Has anyone heard any news on the lawsuit filed by the Whitesides against the Courier et al.?
FDInLaw
09-14-2007, 02:04 PM
BUMPING! I'd like to know the latest as well.
:seeya:
(Looks like you beat me, Hawg! :) )
hawgustusgloop
09-14-2007, 04:34 PM
With information like this:
that piece
was on the left-hand
column with the weather...
so it might not make it online...
here it is:
"In the Jan. 14 article regarding 5th Judicial District Prosecuting Attorney David Gibbon’s decision not to file charges in an alleged rape that occurred Dec. 28, one part of the accuser’s allegations was not addressed.
Although suspect Jeffrey Simmons confirmed to Arkansas State Police investigators that Kevin Jones and Ryan Whiteside were in the room while Simmons had sex with the accuser, according to the Jan. 12 letter written by Gibbons, “there is no evidence at all Ryan Whiteside or Kevin Jones, both of whom were also mentioned in the initial incident report, had any sexual contact with the complainant at any time during the 28th and 29th of December.”
The alleged incident occurred in Whiteside’s North Greenwich home.
Jones is accused of murdering Nona Dirksmeyer on Dec. 15, 2005. Whiteside is expected to testify at Jones’ trial, which is scheduled to begin July 9. "
How in the world can parents want to run and file a lawsuit against someone who is just the messenger or write letters like this........
Jeff Simmons' family wrote a letter to the editor, which was posted in the Dover Times yesterday. I will share it here for anyone who may be interested.
Dear Editor,
False allegations against another is a serious matter. I have learned these last few weeks how serious it can become, when for whatever reasons, rumors, accusations, and falsehoods spin out of control innocent people get hurt.
I am thankful the justice system worked for us, and when armed with the truth, one would hope truth would prevail.
There is no need to repeat any of the falsehoods here; there are too many versions distributed to put the toothpaste back in the tube... but i will say this: being falsely accused of a serious crime, or any crime is a serious matter. It places a burden on the system and more importantly, a burden on others who may have legitimate claims of being harmed. This is no joking matter. This has been devastating to our family, particularly to my son, who has not and did not cause harm to anyone.
As a family, we would like to thank all of the many friends, acquaintances, and others who have supported us, and who also feel victimized. You are a blessing!
The Simmons family
.....in defense of their children, when their behavior is so despicable and humiliating, even if only the parts that were admitted to were true. He admitted to having sex with a girl who was not of drinking age that was under the influence of alcohol, and he admitted RW and K.Jo were in the room. And the whole community knows about it! If it were me, I think I'd be MUCH more angry with my child than anyone else, but I guess that is JMO. It almost seems to me that these parents are sending a message that they condone this type of behavior.
lorettalockhorn
09-14-2007, 04:46 PM
So where are these three fine boys these days? Back in school at Tech or UofA? Wonder if they still party and if any of them are now of legal drinking age. Wonder if they are still voyeurs.
And didn't someone post that the alleged victim was seen partying with them after the incident? Does anyone besides me wonder not just why she would have anything to do with them, but why they would want to have anything to do with her?
There is just something not right about this crowd.
(I've heard rumors that there was admission of drug use (not just alcohol) by some of those involved.)
lorettalockhorn
09-14-2007, 05:18 PM
With information like this:
How in the world can parents want to run and file a lawsuit against someone who is just the messenger or write letters like this........
.....in defense of their children, when their behavior is so despicable and humiliating, even if only the parts that were admitted to were true. He admitted to having sex with a girl who was not of drinking age that was under the influence of alcohol, and he admitted RW and K.Jo were in the room. And the whole community knows about it! If it were me, I think I'd be MUCH more angry with my child than anyone else, but I guess that is JMO. It almost seems to me that these parents are sending a message that they condone this type of behavior.
um yeah. I think I wouldn't have said anything. This is exactly the kind of thing that many communities want nipped in the bud. Unless these kids spent the night at the Whitesides', they were driving home impaired. Or do these overly doting parents run a taxi service for their irresponsible misdemeanant wannabes?
FDInLaw
05-05-2008, 06:00 PM
Bumping!
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