new and excited to be here

[ZELLA]

i came across this website looking through rolling stone mag. i have always been interested in true crime. my first book i read was "the stranger beside me"...i am sure e.one is familiar. anyone have any other book suggestions or authors? thanks...take care, trigg.

[crimehunter]

Here is one of my all time favorite places on the net for murder mysteries etc..

http://www.mysterynet.com/solveit/!

I figured out at least three so far..It will help with real mysteries also.
Check it out!;)

Http://www.coldserial.com
is another site like this one, I go there too! lots of historical stuff there.

[Grins]

Originally posted by ZELLA
i came across this website looking through rolling stone mag. i have always been interested in true crime. my first book i read was "the stranger beside me"...i am sure e.one is familiar. anyone have any other book suggestions or authors? thanks...take care, trigg. Hi Trigg and WELCOME!

Some recent true crime I liked are:
Hometown Killer and
No One Can Hurt Him Anymore,
by
Carol J. Rothgeb

Green River, Running Red and
And Never Let Her Go,
by
Anne Rule

Dr. Sam Sheppard on Trial: The Prosecutors and the Marilyn Sheppard Murder
by Jack P. DeSario

[Grins]

Originally posted by crimehunter
Here is one of my all time favorite places on the net for murder mysteries etc..

http://www.mysterynet.com/solveit/!

I figured out at least three so far..It will help with real mysteries also.
Check it out!;)

Http://www.coldserial.com
is another site like this one, I go there too! lots of historical stuff there.
Hey crimehunter! :seeya:
Good sites! Some Sherlock Holmes at mysterynet.com

That coldserial site is http://www.coldserial.net/
Interesting note about how many serial killers are caught by some fluke=like a minor traffic stop.

[mari_08]

:D Hello everyone!!! I'm soo happy they have this now... I look forward to meeting people... I love reading true crime... I'm in the process with my local police department, Which I look forward to being accepted into the academy..If anyone's been to an academy please let me know how your experience was???

Hope to hear from all of you!!

[intocanaanland]

I came across this website quite by accident. As I was watching the news on CNN about the "lucky" victim Natascha Kampusch who escaped alive and well after 8 years of captivity, I searched the web for the latest news about her. The links about similar kidnappings brought me to Crimelibrary.
Reading about the other crimes, some really monstrous and bizarre makes me wonder if those things really did happen and if people really did those things. Of course, they did but it is so remote and unreal to me.
I wonder what are the chances of an average normal real person in the street actually getting abducted, restrained, tortured, mutilated and murdered. I hope the chances are low.
Jeremy

[sammie]

Just stopping in and checking out the new forum.

Very cool. Nice to see some old faces.

Happy holidays everyone! :seeya:

[dojewo]

Good evening all, I thought I would check out the site, it looks very interesting:read:

[PatC]

Like I didn't have enough to keep me occupied on line and as excuses for avoiding housework, you guys have to come up with a "new" forum and more websites! :read:

What's a girl to do? LOL

:seeya: PatC

[witchywoman]

:seeya:Sending out a big Howdy..
I guess ill be flying in,and out of these forums,lol.

[live4love]

What a nice board and it is nice to see a lot of familiar posters ! Looking forward to posting here with you all !!

:seeya:

L4L

[hankfromthebank]

This site is so cool. Great to be here..:beer:

[2L8 4A D8]

This site is so cool. Great to be here..:beer:

Are you "the Hank" from way back when? If so, welcome back! You were/are a GR8 Poster!

[One2Snoop]

I'm currently reading another Ann Rule book "Dead by Sunset - Perfect Husband, Perfect Killer?" A definite must read. :beer:

[hankfromthebank]

Are you "the Hank" from way back when? If so, welcome back! You were/are a GR8 Poster!

Thanks for your kind words.

[deputydi]

Thanks for your kind words.

:seeya: Hi hank. It's great to see you posting here -- I always enjoyed your posts and your humor.

[Cassiopeia]

Hank, how are your kitties? I remember when you first adopted them.

[hankfromthebank]

Hank, how are your kitties? I remember when you first adopted them.

:seeya:

Thanks for asking. They grew into lions...:eek:

[hankfromthebank]

:seeya: Hi hank. It's great to see you posting here -- I always enjoyed your posts and your humor.
:seeya:

Thannks Deputy. I always enjoyed your devotion to doing the riight thing...:seeya:

[Brainstorm]

Good evening everyone.I have enjoyed reading all your posts and although I dont usually have much to say,thought Id give it a try.Ive only recently began using and owning a PC so forgive me if I have to ask such simple questions as....what is an avatar?Its MHOO that I sure have a lot to learn!!!:seeya:

[sammie]

This site is so cool. Great to be here..:beer:

:eek: Hi hank! :seeya:

[Jadedblueeyes]

This site is so cool. Great to be here..:beer:


Great to see you back Hank!:seeya:

Happy Holidays!

This is a very interesting forum with loads of great information.

IMO

Ocean

[TheTruth]

Just wanted to say Hi to everybody, Merry Christmas, Happy ChanuKa:)

[FDInLaw]

Welcome to the boards, Brainstorm!

:seeya:

[witchywoman]

Welcome :seeya:

[FDInLaw]

:seeya:Sending out a big Howdy..
I guess ill be flying in,and out of these forums,lol.


Sending a Howdy back! :seeya:

[Brainstorm]

welcome intocanaanland,the chances may be low, IMO,but are unfortunately all TOO REAL.

[drcorina53]

I am trying to locate zen 900. do you know of h:seeya: :seeya: im? If so have him contact me.

[drcorina53]

[QUOTE=drcorina53;8789476]I am trying to locate zen 900. do you know of him? If so have him contact me

[Levi]

Hello everyone! I am Levi. I’m from TN. I have been addicted to Court TV for about 4 yrs. But I Started watching ever since OJ Simpson trial. But got back on during Peterson. I am a big Nancy Grace fan. I like to read true crime (& fiction) books. I like animals. I have 1 dog (German Sheppard) & a cat. I like basketball & I like to watch Univ. of Kentucky on TV. I am also addicted to American Idol, Ghost Whisperer, Law & Order SVU, & Mama’s Family.
Am very glad to be here @ the Crime Library message boards! It seems very interesting.

[Brainstorm]

Welcome,Levi,I've read a couple of your posts.You sound very intelligent and I think you will be an asset to these forums.ENJOY!!!!

Brainstorm

[hankfromthebank]

Great to see you back Hank!:seeya:

Happy Holidays!

This is a very interesting forum with loads of great information.

IMO

Ocean

Hi Ocean Hi Sammy...Glad to see you guys are still plugging away..:D

[witchywoman]

Sending a Howdy back! :seeya:
Happy Holidays,and Bright Blessings to you,and yours:seeya:

[Jennaleigh]

Hello everyone. I'm Jennaleigh from Mississippi. I look forward to the conversation! :seeya:

[AmyW]

Hey Witchy! You a big Eagles fan? :seeya:

Sending a howdy back atcha!

Amy

[AmyW]

Hi JennaLeigh! Welcome to the forums!

Amy :seeya:

[RealityJustice]

Hi there this is RealityJustice. Considering I'm obessed with legal stuff I guess I'll have a fun time here.

[Brainstorm]

Welcome RealityJustice, if you like legal stuff there's a lot of it included in "The Murder of Nona Dirksmeyer" here on these boards.The trial is set for Jan.2007 of her boyfriend,Kevin Jones.Very interesting story.Looking forward to your post.

Brainstorm
MOO IMOO

[katta]

Hello Board! Let me introduce myself.

I am Katta how are you?

[katta]

hey! Welcome. I'm new here too.

[FDInLaw]

Welcome RealityJustice, if you like legal stuff there's a lot of it included in "The Murder of Nona Dirksmeyer" here on these boards.The trial is set for Jan.2007 of her boyfriend,Kevin Jones.Very interesting story.Looking forward to your post.

Brainstorm
MOO IMOO

Nice plug! Yes, please come join us on Nona's case!

:seeya:

[FDInLaw]

Hello Board! Let me introduce myself.

I am Katta how are you?

Sending you a big Arkansas "HOWDY!" Welcome to the boards!

:seeya:

[RealityJustice]

Aaah thank you, you three members. I'll check out the Nona Dirksemeyer forum just cause I'm interseted now.

[FDInLaw]

Aaah thank you, you three members. I'll check out the Nona Dirksemeyer forum just cause I'm interseted now.

Good to hear! :)

[SIA]

Hello Everyone,

I am new here and very glad to be a part of the group.
I have been involved with criminal investigation for about 20 years so I am an old dude.
I hope to learn a great deal from the group. It seems like a great place to be.
The CL web site has been something I have used for a while. I have been a little hesitant to enter the group but I am glad to be here. Your information and opinions are important to me and to what I do. Thanks for the opportunity.

[Brainstorm]

Welcome aboard, Old Dude !!!!!!!!!!Looking forward to your opinions !!

[FDInLaw]

Hello Everyone,

I am new here and very glad to be a part of the group.
I have been involved with criminal investigation for about 20 years so I am an old dude.
I hope to learn a great deal from the group. It seems like a great place to be.
The CL web site has been something I have used for a while. I have been a little hesitant to enter the group but I am glad to be here. Your information and opinions are important to me and to what I do. Thanks for the opportunity.

Sending you an Arkansas "HOWDY!" Welcome to the board! ~ FD

:seeya:

[SIA]

Thank you!

[AmyW]

:seeya:

Welcome! This is a great site! Hope you enjoy it as much as I do!

[Maria A.]

Hi everyone. My name is Maria and this is my first time posting. My son Matthew directed the documentary film A CHRISTMAS FAMILY TRAGEDY which premiered to a sold out crowd twice in one day in Mt. Airy, N.C. December 3rd. I would like to invite anyone who is interested to our official website. You can access it at
http://www.bodproductions.com
It's about the true crime story of a man in Germanton, N.C. who killed his wife, 6 of his 7 children, and himself on Christmas day in 1929. This is the first time a film has been made about it. Eric Calhoun was the producer and my son was the director.

[FDInLaw]

Welcome to the board, Maria!

:seeya:

[Maria A.]

Thanks for the welcome!!!
Maria

[Jadedblueeyes]

Hi everyone. My name is Maria and this is my first time posting. My son Matthew directed the documentary film A CHRISTMAS FAMILY TRAGEDY which premiered to a sold out crowd twice in one day in Mt. Airy, N.C. December 3rd. I would like to invite anyone who is interested to our official website. You can access it at
http://www.bodproductions.com
It's about the true crime story of a man in Germanton, N.C. who killed his wife, 6 of his 7 children, and himself on Christmas day in 1929. This is the first time a film has been made about it. Eric Calhoun was the producer and my son was the director.


WELCOME MARIA!:seeya: I AM SO GLAD THAT YOU HAVE DECIDED TO JOIN OUR FAMILY HERE. CL IS AN EXCELLENT SOURCE FOR MANY CASES BOTH PAST AND PRESENT.

THE CASE YOU HAVE MENTIONED SOUNDS SO INTERESTING.

IMO

OCEAN

[Maria A.]

:seeya: Thanks!!! It is better than interesting!! It's dynamic. You will find it totally mesmerizing if you watch it, which I hope someday you will. You can view the trailer of it on the website. I admit I'm biased since my son is the director of it and I was the lead researcher but that aside...it is great.:)
Maria

[Brainstorm]

Welcome Maria !!!! Just read your post and want to say I could see your pride shining through !!!! I'm going to check out the site later,but just wanted to welcome you and tell you that this board can be addictive !! These are mostly sad and very serious but also very interesting and who knows-all our speculations and opinions could in some way help find the truth.If nothing else the parties involved know that there are those of us out here who are concerned and willing to help.Again,welcome,its nice meeting you and looking forward to your posts.

sincerely,Brainstorm

[grandma]

Hi Maria. Welcome to the board! :rose:

That is a fascinating case. Thank you for the link to your website. I would be very interested to read about that tragedy.

[grandma]

Welcome RealityJustice. I'm brand new too. It's nice to meet you :seeya:

[FDInLaw]

Welcome RealityJustice. I'm brand new too. It's nice to meet you :seeya:


Welcome, Grandma! :seeya:

[AmyW]

Hi Maria! Welcome to the boards! I'll check out your link, sounds like an interesting read. Have fun here! :seeya:

[Frogster]

:D Welcome to Crime Library. I hope you enjoy your time here.

[Frogster]

:D Hi Reality Justice. There's always plenty of stuff to get involved in here.

I hope you enjoy it.

[Frogster]

;) Hey Levi. Good to see you over here on this board.

[Frogster]

:D Welcome to the board. This site has been updated and is fantastic. Hope you like it here.

[Frogster]

Hello Everyone,

I am new here and very glad to be a part of the group.
I have been involved with criminal investigation for about 20 years so I am an old dude.
I hope to learn a great deal from the group. It seems like a great place to be.
The CL web site has been something I have used for a while. I have been a little hesitant to enter the group but I am glad to be here. Your information and opinions are important to me and to what I do. Thanks for the opportunity.
:o You can probably teach us more than we can teach you. Good to have you aboard.

[Frogster]

Hello Board! Let me introduce myself.

I am Katta how are you?


:D Hi Katta, I'm well. I hope you enjoy your time on the boards. It's fascinating.

[Frogster]

:D Hi Jenaleigh, I think you'll find the boards really interesting. Good to have you aboard.

[Frogster]

:D You've come to the right place. This place has the most interesting true crime you'll ever come across. Welcome.

[Frogster]

Hey Witchy, Thanks for the warning. Alert for flying broomstick noted.;)

[Frogster]

I came across this website quite by accident. As I was watching the news on CNN about the "lucky" victim Natascha Kampusch who escaped alive and well after 8 years of captivity, I searched the web for the latest news about her. The links about similar kidnappings brought me to Crimelibrary.
Reading about the other crimes, some really monstrous and bizarre makes me wonder if those things really did happen and if people really did those things. Of course, they did but it is so remote and unreal to me.
I wonder what are the chances of an average normal real person in the street actually getting abducted, restrained, tortured, mutilated and murdered. I hope the chances are low.
Jeremy


The chances are many. Just read a few of the stories here. Welcome to the board my friend.:seeya:

[schumiayrton]

I am a French female member and I am extremely interested by profilers. A few years ago I saw an incredible documentary about an Australian female profiler who appeared to be a bit psychic as well. Unfortunately I can't remember her name. Later on, in a documentary about a French man who met several serial killers in the states, following his wife's murder, the name of the Australian profiler was mentioned because apparently she had broken down owing to her particular type of work. I have always been wondering about the mental stress of the profilers.
Can anyone help me with the name of that profiler? does anyone know what became of her? and if there is a possibility to contact her. Thanking you in advance and happy new year to all.

[Brainstorm]

Can't help with that but just wanted to say Welcome to the boards!!Your ideas and opinions will be greatly appreciated.
Brainstorm

JMHO

[froggy]

I am a French female member and I am extremely interested by profilers. A few years ago I saw an incredible documentary about an Australian female profiler who appeared to be a bit psychic as well. Unfortunately I can't remember her name. Later on, in a documentary about a French man who met several serial killers in the states, following his wife's murder, the name of the Australian profiler was mentioned because apparently she had broken down owing to her particular type of work. I have always been wondering about the mental stress of the profilers.
Can anyone help me with the name of that profiler? does anyone know what became of her? and if there is a possibility to contact her. Thanking you in advance and happy new year to all.

:( You may be thinking of Athena Starwoman. She was an Australian who wrote 'Star Columns' in many International magazines and Newspapers.

If you Google 'Athena Starwoman' you may find more. I don't believe she was ever a Psychic Profiler, she could have been. She married an American motivational speaker. Athena passed away with Cancer about 1 year or so ago.

Perhaps there is someone else who meets your description. Hope that helps.

:seeya:

[chr143]

hiii....Im not familar with the site (yet), but am very interested in true crime and forensics... i graduated from John Jay college of Criminal Justice in NYC with a degree in Forensic Psychology and would love for anyone to recommend some good books or published works....I actually do have a question for whoever can possible help me... Ive been looking for a published work by a psychologist/psychiatrist who wrote on a man who self-mutilated extensively, however, lived... I believe the mans last name is Greene/Green, and his first initial is M. but I am unsure of the author... I know theres not a lot to go on, but hopefully some can help....


thanks,


:)

[froggy]

:seeya: Hi Chr143, Welcome to Crime Library. Many stories on crime are held here in the library you should find it fascinating.

Did you try to Google the person you are looking for? This will be your chance to do some detective work. You'd pretty well know how to use a search engine from your days at John Jay.

Believe me, if anyone knows someone here will know. There's nothing that gets past us.

There's the police force then there's us. J/K

[crimehunter]

I will try to help you with finding that information..I know of about a-couple hundred places to start.
Here is some places to start...
..................................................
www.Truecrime.com
www.Coldserial.com
Hard case crime
The justice web site
Criminal Justice on line
*************************************
Military and Law enforcement At.....
www.geocities.com/cwg429/index.html
*************************************
Womens law.org
Lots of good stuff here and links and all these sites.
*********************************************
USA cops.com
Lots of links and police!
************************************************** *
Criminal Justice on line
http://www.hitechcj/id34.html
***********************************************
:beer: :patriot:

[crimehunter]

I will try to help you with finding that information..I know of about a-couple hundred places to start.
Here is some places to start...
..................................................
www.Truecrime.com
www.Coldserial.com
Hard case crime
The justice web site
Criminal Justice on line
*************************************
Military and Law enforcement At.....
www.geocities.com/cwg429/index.html
*************************************
Womens law.org
Lots of good stuff here and links and all these sites.
*********************************************
USA cops.com
Lots of links and police!
************************************************** *
Criminal Justice on line
http://www.hitechcj/id34.html
***********************************************
:beer: :patriot:

[crimehunter]

This board has a few Quirks, I would like to talk about! :(
Pss. I still have those couple of hundred places, If I can change the board above?:rolleyes:
Anyway, Have a good night all!:seeya:

[chr143]

just wanted to say thanks for the help so far...

[crimehunter]

I don't give up!;)
Hope these help.

http:www.karisable.com/crdna.htm
http://members.aol.com/JRD203/csi-forensics.htm
http://police.sas.ab.ca/prl/for.html

[crimehunter]

Just put in the search box,what your hoping to find and this might help also.
good luck.Free reading for all on any subject!

http://books.google.com/

[crimehunter]

One more site for you to check..This is a very big site.
I know the story you are talking about...I just can't remember where it was I saw it.Anyway have fun with site, it's huge..

http://www.lib.msu.edu/harris23/crimjust/forsci.htm
:cool:

[crimehunter]

Now for the other site.:tongue:
http://www.psychology.org/links/Environment_Behavior_Relationships/Forensic/

[Sid Jackson]

Hi, all: This is my introduction to the group and, at the same time, an appeal for a little help.

I'm a mystery novelist, writing under the pen name of C. C. Canby ("Masks of Murder). In writing my second novel, tentatively titled "Second Coming," and I have a question I can't seem to get an answer to in any of my forensic books in my library. In the novel, a dead man is found floating in a lake. The body has been there for several hours. Inside his pocket, the police find a very soaked diagram of the house (on legal paper) in which two murders and a burglary have just occurred. My question is, is it possible to lift fingerprints from a very wet (soaked) piece of legal paper, or would the water have destroyed the fingerprints (if any, of course)?

This being my first time to post to this forum, I'm unaware of the expertise that may be existing here. But I'm hoping someone might be able to help.

Glad to meet you all and thanks in advance for any advice.

[schumiayrton]

Tku to Brainstorm for yr welcome. I will at a later date give my opinion about DP since it has been abolished here since 1981!
Tku toFroggy re Athena. I will indeed check. If it is her, I am deeply shocked. It means that girl has been surrounded by evil all her life. Till later

[schumiayrton]

I have just checked. The lady I saw on the French TV was a profiler and younger than Athena Starwoman. I will keep searching. Tku

[Honest Joe]

Hi There,
Am pleased to be here, though as with most things, I have a motive :shrug:

I am here to talk to people about Mary Bell, who in 1968 was convicted at the age of 11-years-old for the murder of two younger boys.

The reason is that I am producing a new play at The Finborough Theatre (London) in February 2007 for 3 weeks, that explores two moments in Mary's life. In fact, if you like, it book ends her time on prision.

The first is the trail, and the other is when she went on the run with a fellow inmate from an open prision to Blackpool for the weekend!

The play "Fanny and Faggot" has been written by Jack Thorne, who has recently written for the TV series "Shameless". The title of the play has been taken from the names both Mary and Norma gave themselves, and they left on the notes and in the school rooms.

I would love to hear from anyone who has thoughts on the case, her imprisionment, her trail as an adult, her release in the 1980s and the eventual pursuit by the media.

I am looking for debate and to connect with people who want to talk and discuss.

Many Thanks for taking the time to read this post.

Regards
Honest Joe

[walton]

I haven't read any books about Mary but I did read something in the Library sometime back. Here is the link.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/famous/bell/index_1.html

Not sure what you are looking for but while reading the story it made me wonder what things this little girl had seen prior to the killings.

Interesting story for sure!!

[grandma]

I just wanted to say "Hi" to everybody here. I love true crime and I am a pro death penalty activist.

I look forward to reading your posts, learning from you and making new friends.

grandma:rose:

[Inletwatcher]

Thank you Grandma for the hello ! I like you...LOVE true crime ! Think that is why all of us are here, for some reason or another, some more personal than others. I will look forward to reading your posts and learning a bit more about this crazy world we all share.

"Inletwatcher"

[froggy]

:( The child murderer who herself was a child is frightening in the extreme. Fortunately, she was caught before she could go on an ever evolving murderous rampage.

Mary was a pretty child, she looked like such an angel. How looks can be deceiving.

Given that past behaviour is a predictor of future behaviour, the world has not yet seen the last of 'dear Mary'. For the Judge to allow her to be released with total anonymity puts the rest of us at risk. There is a known Psychopath who has previously murdered and unrepentant walking the streets. None of us, including the Police are privy to her identity or whereabouts.

She may have taken up residency in any other Country, where she is free to strike again, again and, again. The Judge's decision to apply total anonymity has put another Psychopath out on the street to do it again. Anonymous in every way. She may even have moved Countries.

When Mary strikes again, not if, the Judge who made the order must be brought to account and laws altered to never allow such an order as this to be applied again. Sadly, in the mean time lives may be taken for the laws to be adequately adjusted.

[walton]

I've tried to find out more about Mary's escape from "prison" but didn't find much on the web.

What I did find out is that Mary had talked to a journalist and recieved monies from this journalist. The victims families recieved nothing.

Mary and her now 18 year old daughter are able to live their lives as if nothing happened.

Very interesting story from all angles.

[froggy]

Hi There,
Am pleased to be here, though as with most things, I have a motive :shrug:

I am here to talk to people about Mary Bell, who in 1968 was convicted at the age of 11-years-old for the murder of two younger boys.

The reason is that I am producing a new play at The Finborough Theatre (London) in February 2007 for 3 weeks, that explores two moments in Mary's life. In fact, if you like, it book ends her time on prision.

The first is the trail, and the other is when she went on the run with a fellow inmate from an open prision to Blackpool for the weekend!

The play "Fanny and Faggot" has been written by Jack Thorne, who has recently written for the TV series "Shameless". The title of the play has been taken from the names both Mary and Norma gave themselves, and they left on the notes and in the school rooms.

I would love to hear from anyone who has thoughts on the case, her imprisionment, her trail as an adult, her release in the 1980s and the eventual pursuit by the media.

I am looking for debate and to connect with people who want to talk and discuss.

Many Thanks for taking the time to read this post.

Regards
Honest Joe

Hi Honest Joe,

As Walton mentioned there wasn't alot about Mary's escape that appears to have been published. Can you enlighten us further on that, please?

Thanks:seeya:

[tsquare]

My name is Kathy and I've been reading this forum for awhile and would like to learn to participate and post. I love Court TV and true crime books, especially anything by Ann Rule. I love her emphasis on the psychological aspects of why some people do the things they do. If anyone can recommend true crime writers as fascinating as her books, I'd love some suggestions.

Nice to meet everyone! :)

Kathy

[walton]

Hi Honest Joe,

As Walton mentioned there wasn't alot about Mary's escape that appears to have been published. Can you enlighten us further on that, please?

Thanks:seeya:

I did some more digging and this is the only thing that I could find.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/child/story/0,,960690,00.html

[ameri-cannes]

Hi everyone!
I'm new here, too. So much reading to do, it's gonna take me awhile to get caught up! Great site!

I was wondering. I am from Connecticut, now living in Cannes, France. A very close family friend was recently killed in CT, along with her 9 year old daughter. Is it at all possible for me to follow the case thru this site? I read the CT Post online every day and am in touch with the prosecutor (I actually know him from a few years back when my brother-in-law was killed), but I don't like to call him too often, and it's sometimes difficult to reach him with 6 hour time difference. The paper doesn't provide much info.
(If by now you've guessed I lived in Bridgeport, you would be correct- murder capital of CT.)
Any info any of you could provide would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance!

[jbrook]

Hi everyone my name it Jessica but call me Jess. I love to keep up with current cases and also read about cases in the past. I am a criminal justice student and will get my first degree in December of this year! After that I plan on going on to get my second degree. One day I would like to be a detective, or maybe go to law school. But anyway I had better go. Hope to get to know some of you! have a great day!

Jess

[Brainstorm]

It's been awhile since I stopped by on this thread to say hello and welcome our new friends. I'm afraid I'll leave someone out if I try to address each one so I'll say WELCOME to all you new members and hope you enjoy the Library as much as I do.All I can say is just jump right in,the water's great !!!!!
JMHO

[kezcat]

Hi there,

I have been a huge Crime Libary fan for several years. I am particularly interested in The West Memphis Three, Katherine Knight (what on earth makes people like her tick?) and Ted Bundy. I read the CTV forums religiously, but very rarely post. I am happy to have found the CL forum- hopefully I will have the opportunity to post more frequently.

I read as much true crime as I can- Ann Rule is great! I also read as much about Australian Crime as I can (I'm in Australia).

I am looking forward to reading everyone's posts!

Cheers!

Kezcat :seeya:

[secureone]

Hello everyone, I am new to this but am very interested in participating in your discussions entered.

I have a question that I would like to ask. I am currently a criminal justice student and am in a crime theory class. I am having problems with associating a specific crime theory to domestic violence and murder for hire cases. What I am looking for is what theory or theories would best fit these two types of crimes. The case involves a woman who was killed by a man that was hired to kill her, by a former lover. Both of the men are previous felons and are from the Bronx, N.Y. The police had been called to the couple's homes on different occassions for disturbances, but no arrests were made. Any help with this would be fantastic. :confused: I look forward to the discussions. Thanks

[Damselina]

Are you "the Hank" from way back when? If so, welcome back! You were/are a GR8 Poster!

Hi 2 late!! You won't recognize me as Damselina but I recognize you!! Love your avatar darrrrling ;)

My name is Karen and I live in Toronto. Love a mystery and look forward to playing sleuth with you all!!

[Dutchy]

Hi there,

Same as Kezcat I have been a CL "fan" for quite some time now, however, I'm just discovering the forums.

As my nick implies I'm from Holland (please don't hold it against me ;)) and I work as a quality manager/laboratory engineer, sometimes doubling as a medical examiner but just on the chemical side of things.

I hope to join you guys in the interesting discussion taking place here.

[boo]

Hello everyone,
I'm new to this site. A friend of mine told me about it so I thought I would check it out. I've always been interested in true crime stories and I think it's because my dad was a sargeant on homicide for Detroit when I was growing up. I would go through his files and it was always so fascinating. The story I am reading now is called "Internal Combusion" about Nancy Seaman, a 4th grade teacher who killed her husband, Robert with a hatchet. They lived in Farmington Hills MI, so it's close to home. In the book it says that Court TV is at her trial but yet when I try to bring it up to get more recent info, it doesn't come up. Am I doing something wrong? Can anyone help?? Thanks for your help!!

[walton]

Hope this helps: http://www.courttv.com/trials/news/120204_seaman_ctv.html


I couldn't get the video to work but maybe you can.
http://www.courttv.com/video/archive/

http://www.theoaklandpress.com/stories/121504/loc_20041215013.shtml

I remember reading about this story. I also remember the divide between the boys. But I haven't seen anything since.

Let me know when your done with the book, I have a question.

Walton

[icemaiden]

Hi everyone

We had a programme about the Columbine killers on tv the other night, and I came across this site while looking up more information on it.
What a cracking site!
That's really all I want to say for now.
I'll go have a read of the message boards but I just wanted to say hi.

[boo]

Hello!! You've been a big help!! How'd you do that? No matter what I tried, I couldn't bring anything up. I'll get back with you when I'm done. Thanks again!!

[2L8 4A D8]

Hi 2 late!! You won't recognize me as Damselina but I recognize you!! Love your avatar darrrrling ;)

My name is Karen and I live in Toronto. Love a mystery and look forward to playing sleuth with you all!!

Hi Karen! Good to see you posting on The Crime Library! Love your Avatar too! Very cool! Take care and see you around the Boards!

:seeya:

[2L8 4A D8]

Hi there,

Same as Kezcat I have been a CL "fan" for quite some time now, however, I'm just discovering the forums.

As my nick implies I'm from Holland (please don't hold it against me ;)) and I work as a quality manager/laboratory engineer, sometimes doubling as a medical examiner but just on the chemical side of things.

I hope to join you guys in the interesting discussion taking place here.

Hi Dutchy! Welcome! Sounds like you would be pretty popular all over these Boards, what with doubling as a medical examiner! LOL! Look forward to seeing your posts!

[Auntie Venom]

Hi, I'm new to the site and I'm very interested in the subject matter. I've been reading stories on the main page and have found them fascinating. I've had an interest in crime for a very long time, particularly serial criminals. One of the Carlton Gary murders actually took place two doors up from the house I grew up in when I was a little girl. I guess I got it honest!
It's a real pleasure to be here and meet everyone! :seeya:

[FDInLaw]

Hi, I'm new to the site and I'm very interested in the subject matter. I've been reading stories on the main page and have found them fascinating. I've had an interest in crime for a very long time, particularly serial criminals. One of the Carlton Gary murders actually took place two doors up from the house I grew up in when I was a little girl. I guess I got it honest!
It's a real pleasure to be here and meet everyone! :seeya: Welcome the the board! :seeya:

[Auntie Venom]

Thank you for the welcome! I want to quickly add that with my school schedule and taking care of my husband and son I don't always answer posts quickly, but I'm not trolling and baiting, I promise! I'll keep current at least once daily if not more often!

[Gaiar]

Welcome to the forum Auntie Venom.

[Auntie Venom]

Thank you Gaiar!

[diamond d]

Hello everyone, really interested in all the differing opinions posted on the various topics. Hopefully I can contribute in an intelligent, informed and sometimes controversial manner. Thanks

[david mcvicker]

Hello:beer:

[Gaiar]

Welcome to the forum Icemaiden.

[icemaiden]

Thanks for the welcome :oD

[Cereese]

Hi everyone! I'm Cereese and I just joined up here and thought I'd stop by and introduce myself. I registered here initially to reply to your "Can rapists be rehabilitated?" thread but I'm finding great opportunities for discussion all over this place. :D

I'm a criminal justice student who's particularly interested and intrigued by serial killers and sexual sadists. Don't ask me why but they fascinate me. :shrug: I've done a lot of my own studying on the subjects...mainly reading all of John Douglas's novels. (Good stuff, I recommend them to anyone.)

Other than that I'm an avid geek...comic collector, Star Wars buff, Arthurian Legend enthusiast and Law & Order JUNKIE.

I look forward to discussions with you all and maybe even learning a thing or two. :D

[Gaiar]

Welcome to the forum Cereese.

[FDInLaw]

Sending you a big HOWDY from Arkansas! Welcome to the board! :seeya:

[112965]

Im a newbie also and I just wanted stop in say Hello. Please bear with me as I try to figure out everything about posting and such.

[Gaiar]

Welcome to the forum 112965. I know what you mean im also trying to get use to the forum still myself.

[glennmcmellon]

hello,this is my first message as a newbie,im from manchester england.home of the top serial killer dr. harold shipman!!!!!!

[Anne Thomas]

Finally decided to join after lurking awhile. Hello to all.:patriot:

[rmorin881]

hello and welcome

[Gaiar]

welcome to the forum.

[Morgaineza]

Hi my name is Morgaine. I live in South Africa. I stumbled across the site a few weeks ago, and find it very interessting. I'm new to message boards and such.

I'm looking forward to chat and give my 2 cents worth. :)

[Gaiar]

welcome to the forum Morgaine.

[Kenny Vermouth]

I am new here, too. It is a good website.

[5poppy]

Hello, my name is Dee Dee. I live in Los Angeles County. This is an interesting site that I just found.:)

[dylb1216@aol.co]

Why can't I find Dana Ewell on this site? I am new, so it may just be my inexperience with searching the site in the correct manner. Someone please help!

[walton]

I couldn't find anything in the Library but I did find this: http://www.courttv.com/press/dunne_071703.html

and this: http://markgribben.com/?p=263

Not sure if this Mark Gribben is the same person who wrote the story Mountain Meadows Massacre at the Library here or not. But it is surely worth the read.

Here is that link: http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/mass/mtn_meadows/ Christopher Cain did a movie about this event. It is called September Dawn due out May 4th. And starring in it is Jon Voight.

http://septemberdawn.net/trailer_large.html


Hope this helps.
Walton

[dylb1216@aol.co]

Thank you, Walton. I have found other stories on Dana Ewell. I guess what I should have asked is why isn't his story in crimelibrary? Do you know how they decide which stories to include in the library and why this one wasn't? It's a pretty fascinating read and I was sure it would be here and was dissappointed when I couldn't find it.

[breezibrianna]

I am Brianna and from Southern Cal with a fascination (maybe sick?lol) with gruesome crimes.

[Gaiar]

welcome to the forum breezibrianna.

[MAUREENG]

The first true crime story I ever read was helter skelter. Does anyone know if Charlie Manson's biological children ever have gotten in trouble?

[breezibrianna]

I guess that doesn't surprise me but yeah, I'd be interested to see what happened to them.

[Miranda]

I wanted to introduce myself. I just finished writing four papers on crime theories. I was so confused I should have just looked on the boards for clarification. Anyhow, I posted somewhere else to introduce myself but I don't remember where. I am a criminal justice major. I am married to a probation officer (30 years on the job). I grew up seeing the other side of the criminal justice system. My family involvement in crime would always have the criminal justice system as a major part in my life. It still is today, but on a different perspective. I look forward to the discussions. I think the first crime novel I read was The Boston Strangler. I must have been in 4th grade. Al Capone, Bugsy Siegel, Lucky Luciano would become my first obsessions. James Cagney, Dead End Kids, boy, that just brought back forgotten memories. See you later and welcome to everyone.:patriot:

I need to write a paper about crime and punishment.
I love Ann Rule too, I think I have every one of her books. And some old crime novels from my parents. I need to look for them. The books have black in white photos on the cover.

[Baltimore]

Hello Everyone! It's good to be here & I look forward to reading all the topics. I have a question about where to post my question: Recently, I watched a movie on TCM, "He Walked In Darkness", the true story of Erwin Walker. When I Googled this guy, it shows he did his time, left prison & is living happily ever after. I'd like to know how to find out what happened with this guy, all these years later. Is that possible? Thanks to all ahead of time!

[walton]

If you find any more about this story and what happened after he got out of prison leave a note.

Interesting story. You have me curious.

Walton

[bloodandvolume]

Hi everybody!

I'm really looking forward to joining this community and becoming an active member. My name is Dave Copeland and I am the author of "Blood & Volume: Inside New York's Israeli Mafia," which is being released by Barricade Books within the next couple of weeks.

You can learn more about me and my work www.davecopeland.com (http://www.davecopeland.com)

I'll mostly be interested in thread on organized crime, but will also spend some time here looking for my next book topic or angles for covering true crime as a journalist and narrative nonfiction writer.

I look forward to corresponding with you all.

- Dave Copeland
Boston, Mass.

[Tariwatkins]

My name is Tari, I've been fascinated crime and murder, since the story of
Ted Watkins in 1969 in Stockton, Ca. Some say he was murdered, some say he is still alive, and in secret protection, some say he just disappeared. I always wondered. Is there anyone out there who knows anything about him?

[terrie faye]

Im so happy to have found THIS SITE. im a 41 yr old single mom of 4. I was married for 21 yrs and divorced in 2004. im a hairstylist bytrade but am currently in my sophmore year at the unversity majoring in criminal justice.i just cant get enough of all the cases I never knew about :rose:

[terrie faye]

Im so happy to have found THIS SITE. im a 41 yr old single mom of 4. I was married for 21 yrs and divorced in 2004. im a hairstylist bytrade but am currently in my sophmore year at the unversity majoring in criminal justice.i just cant get enough of all the cases I never knew about :rose:

[TuscanDreams]

Im so happy to have found THIS SITE. im a 41 yr old single mom of 4. I was married for 21 yrs and divorced in 2004. im a hairstylist bytrade but am currently in my sophmore year at the unversity majoring in criminal justice.i just cant get enough of all the cases I never knew about :rose:

Hi! Welcome, I am 42, married and have 2 grown kids. I work in a law enforcement field. You'd think I'd get enough of true crime, but I don't!

[terrie faye]

i am always worried that people will think im strange because im so facinated with murders. its nice to know im not alone:rose:

[celtic_tiger]

:D I can't seem to find contact info for any of the administrators. When I click on "Contact Us" I am taken to the forums.

I would like to put forth my opinion on the Camilla Lyman ad. It is inappropriate to refer to Cam as "her" in the second phase of this ad, as it is clear she has transitioned and is now "he." To do otherwise is insulting to trans individuals. I despise censorship and wouldn't demand they remove it, but I think it's important that they hear this opinion.

[lake_eyes]

I can't remember if I introduced myself or not. So here I am...hi. I hope to be able to hold intelligent, non-violent conversations with everyone. Due to my living situation, I am currently without Court Tv but hope to remedy that soon;)
Look forward to chat

[grumpybumpas]

Hi there!!!

My name is Ray and i'm here to say that i am pleased to meet you all here today.

(New kid on the block,just waiving a hand.)

[n.n]

I've been reading the posts in this forum for a little while.
Finally I had the courage to sign up and participate in the discussions. I am leaning heavily towards Mr. Simpson's being innocent of the crime. In fact, the more I read about the case, the more convinced I become the true killers have never been even looked for.
Nevertheless, there are some excellent points made that could raise doubt about Mr. Simpson's innocence.
May I add that the personal attacks and bickering in some possts do interrupt the flow of the threads and make it difficult to keep focused on the subject under discussion. :seeya:

[Count Iblis]

So, I forgot about that, assuming that I was never subscribed due to some problems. This was several months ago. Today, I received an email about a PM from someone on the "crimelibrary" board. I visited this board, tried my usual username and password and it worked :)

[BabakinsNo1]

Hi all, new here, from Scotland and hope I can chat to you all

[clown girl]

hi i am from the east of England,i have been browsing the site for a while and find it so interesting.

[Nemesis43]

Hi Zella,

If you're into true crime
You can even petition the murder suspect.

[clover]

Hey, everyone.
I'm 20 and I'm from Norway. I've grown up and still live right by the town a woman named Belle Gunnes was born. She eventually emigrated to the States and become a serial killer and a scam artist. Some say she may have started her killing spree right here.

Anyway, I've always been fascinated with crime, especially serial killers. Some people I know find that a little morbid.

[1823]

Hi My name is 1823 AKA Katie and i have just found this place and website and i LOVE it, my flat mate thinks that i am freaky for wanting to read about things like this and that i would want to post here on this board, but i have always loved anything to do with murders and sireal killers, i like reading about them and why they think that they are the way they are. Its something that i have always been interested in.

So i am freaky for liking it then i guess that is the way i am!;) :rose: :seeya:

[clover]

That discussion is going on in the issues in CJS section under Theories of Crime/Biology & Crime. You might enjoy looking there

I can't seem to find this. Can you link me in the right direction?

[jimmy69]

hi there i'm jimmy from england i come across this web site from doing a search i have always been an eager fan of true crime mainly what makes serial killers tick and the motives behind there crimes and what led to there capture. this is my first ever time usin a forum

[amyirshad16]

hi im new on here and also come from England. i came across this website while doing research also but i would like to know if there are any English sites like this one. i find the info on here interesting but not as relevent as i would if crime in England was being reported.

[sharlock]

Hi, I'm Sharlock a newby as well to the messageboard but have been surfing this site for ages it is one of the best I've seen. "seeya"

[AmyW]

Hi and Welcome to the boards! :beer:

[froggy]

Welcome to Crime Library all of you newbies. The more the merrier.:seeya:

[cyottee]

:cool: Hi Icewater !
Mind if I add some lemon?;)

Welcome!

[AmyW]

:seeya:

Welcome to the forum! Glad to have you on board. :beer:

[FDInLaw]

Well, a big Arkansas HOWDY! Welcome to the boards!

:seeya: :seeya: :seeya:

[JanaeBrown]

I'm an sophmore in high school and next year i will being applying to colleges. I'm going to be an investigator in sexual crime and was wondering if anyone know the best colleges to study criminal justice. I also planning on getting P.H.D in criminal justice sociology. I have an 3.5 G.P.A with a 89% average.


Janae Brown

[FDInLaw]

Now folks, there's been over 170 views but only 3 posts?!!

WHERE'S THE LOVE? :rolleyes:

Being a moderator is no picnic!

[Brainstorm]

Hello Icewater !!!!!!!!!
With some of our hot topics,we may need you !!!!
JMHO

[clover]

Welcome Icewater! :seeya:

[AmyW]

:seeya: and welcome to all new members that I may have missed! Sid, I don't think anyone answered your question, I'll look into that. Here's a link in the meantime:

http://faculty.ncwc.edu/toconnor/315/315lect05.htm

[AmyW]

Welcome Katie, glad to have you on board. :seeya:

[AmyW]

Best of luck, Janae :seeya: :beer:

[sharlock]

Hi Katie, if you're freaky then you're not alone, so am I. Glad to have your company!!!
Sharlock:beer:

[Portabella]

Nice to meet you, I think. I have been involved in LE in one way or another for 15 years and have a deep seated interest in Criminal Minds. I am hoping to do some research on here and hopefully find some knowledgable folks concerning a I think Serial Killer that was in business in approx. 1982. I don't know where on the board to ask the questions that I have and hopefully someone can give me some guidance. Thank you in advance.

Bella

[AmyW]

Welcome, Bella. :seeya:

Try the "Historical Serial Killers and Mass Murderers" forum. I'll pop in and see if I can't help you out. I've been a true crime buff for years, have a huge collection of books and might just know the case you're wanting information about. :)

[eaving]

Hi all! I'm not really sure why I joined, other than I saw a few topics that caught my eye...I don't pay too much attention to the news these days, but I love message boards, so maybe this will help me keep up with the latest in crime, anyway. My only real association with LE is through my boyfriend. I'm a student studying Religion and English (about as far away as you can get from CJ, I think, hehehe). Anyway, I'm excited to be here...the boards seem like a pretty cool place.

[outeasy]

I'm new,and glad to be here. Lot's of smart folks. I'm doing some work on the OJ thing, and would appreciate your thoughts! See ya around.
http://outeasy.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/my-dog-ii-or-the-son-of-a-*****/

[AmyW]

:seeya: and welcome, eaving! Glad to have you on board. :)

[hissister]

It's going to take me time to learn my way around. Already wondering which forum I would post the story of my little brother's death in 1968 in. His death was in Florida, but I'm living in Texas.

[FDInLaw]

It's going to take me time to learn my way around. Already wondering which forum I would post the story of my little brother's death in 1968 in. His death was in Florida, but I'm living in Texas.

Welcome to the board! :seeya:

How did your brother die? If it was a case of murder, has it been solved?

[Gaiar]

welcome to the forum eaving.

[hissister]

Thank you for welcoming me to the board. I had written a reply earlier, but then after I typed it all up it said that I wasn't logged in. But I had logged in. I'll try again to write a reply. Glen was found hanging the day after he had been reported missing to the police. The area he was found dead in had been searched just a few hours earlier and he wasn't there. The first police officer or officers to arrive noticed the rope that had been looped twice around his neck wasn't tight enough to kill Glen and they made comments about it like "The rope wasn't tight enough to kill him", and to my father "That rope is not what killed your boy". But when the detectives and investigators took over they ignored everything that had been suspicious about Glen's disappearance and death and decided his death was an "accidental" death. Then the assistant ME ruled his death an accidental death; asphyxiation due to hanging. Even though the first police officer or officers had even said (because they personally saw) that the rope wasn't tight enough to have caused Glen's death. My family and I have always believed Glen was dead before being put under the tree and the rope looped around his neck. We have always believed that someone had had him in the old abandoned house on the lot of land and knew that the rope was there (it had been put up previously by kids to use as a rope swing), and that after Glen died this person used the rope to prop his body up.

[CaroleNichols]

Hi, I look forward to being able to post here. I've always been drawn to true crime, and for so long thought I was the only one. It's nice to know there are other out here. (It makes me feel more normal....for a long time I thought I might be perverted or something):D

[AmyW]

:seeya: and welcome, Carole! Glad to have you on board. You're by no means the only one really interested and intrigued by true crime cases. I understand what you mean, though. I've had friends and acquaintances look at my large collection of books and then give me "the look"; I'm sure you know what I mean. :D

I look forward to seeing you around the board. :beer:

[AmyW]

:seeya: and welcome, outeasy. I'll check out your link and I look forward to seeing your comments on the OJ thread here. Glad to have you on board. :beer:

[AmyW]

Welcome to the boards. Let me start by offering my sincere condolences for the loss of your brother. What an awful thing for your family to have to go through.

I would private message FreshWater and ask him where he thinks you should put your post so that it will receive the most views. I checked the topics and wasn't sure, myself. If you need any help, please let us know.

Click on this link, and FreshWater's PM info is on the right side of the screen ("Contact Info").
http://boards.crimelibrary.com/member.php?u=93864

[hissister]

I will PM Freshwater and ask where I should put my post to that it will receive the most views. I couldn't figure out either where I should put it. I feel like my family and I have been trying to deal with Glen's death for so long that we really could use some new insight and point of views from people outside of the family. And some advice about what we can possibly do.

[sharlock]

Dear Hissister, what a burden you have to bear, I will keep my eyes open for your post and wish you well.( You could also consider starting your own thread)
Sincerely Sharlock:rose:

[hissister]

I've been trying to find the right place to start a thread about my little brother's death. Maybe you could give me a suggestion about where to post it.

[sharlock]

His sister,
FreshWater will help but in the meantime check your private messages.
Sharlock

[bambam]

hey sammie! i'm assuming this is the same sammie from the ctv boards....i just wanted to check out CL-- looks like there are plenty of good topics to choose from....but i don't really understand exactly how this works...? i guess this board is just not near as fast paced as the other board. when i checked out the ANS thread here, the last post was hours ago, and most of the other posts were really old...? if you could give me the inside scoop on how this board is, and how it works, i would appreciate it! but it seems you hardly ever come over here either! (can't find time-- too busy posting on other board, right?)! i'd be better off asking you about this over there, which is what i will do. i just had to check this out tho, because one of the posters over there was commenting on how unruly and outrageous it was over here (not that THAT is what i want-- i was just curious!) but it seems extremely CALM to me.....maybe i just haven't checked out the right threads! well, i'm going to lurk a little bit, and head back the other way. see ya there!

[PBOOTH]

hi,
i found cl when i was looking for information on an ancestor. very informational. thanks:)

[LionRun]

Welcome Icewater :).

Lion

[Momisareader]

Welcome, Icewater! :seeya:

[crimehunter]

Welcome Icewater,
Happy to have you on board.:cool:

[WednesdayAddams]

Hello!

I've been reading things on this site for a year or more (probably more) but I actualy never saw this forum ( I guess that's because I never looked down, I was too fascinated with all these stories), so I decieded to register and here I am!

I can't remember how I got to know this site, by accident or someone told me...I can't remember, but it actualy doesn't matter. I'm really happy to know that this kind of site exists! I always wanted to know so many thing about many crimes, but whenever I tried to look on the interned using google or yahoo, I read only several things about some murderers and murders but never so detailed. I really like the way all stories are presented here in such an interesting and dinamic way. I can also relay to crimelibrary any time I want to read something good and when I need some details. Sometimes I really think that if some detail I wanted to know about wan't mentioned here that that detail doesn't exist or no one knows about it.

Keep up the good work!

[SweetnSonny]

Hi, Icewater! :)

[AmyW]

:seeya: and welcome, PBooth and Wednesday. Glad to have you on board. I look forward to your posts. :beer:

[debik]

hi, i've been reading the posts on anna nicole smith, and find this forum very interesting. i keep waiting to read that howard stearn has been charged with something...anything! how is he getting by with so much?

[debik]

Hello!

I've been reading things on this site for a year or more (probably more) but I actualy never saw this forum ( I guess that's because I never looked down, I was too fascinated with all these stories), so I decieded to register and here I am!

I can't remember how I got to know this site, by accident or someone told me...I can't remember, but it actualy doesn't matter. I'm really happy to know that this kind of site exists! I always wanted to know so many thing about many crimes, but whenever I tried to look on the interned using google or yahoo, I read only several things about some murderers and murders but never so detailed. I really like the way all stories are presented here in such an interesting and dinamic way. I can also relay to crimelibrary any time I want to read something good and when I need some details. Sometimes I really think that if some detail I wanted to know about wan't mentioned here that that detail doesn't exist or no one knows about it.

Keep up the good work!

i've been reading crime library for a long time too, but never realized i could join.:shrug: glad i finally figured it out.

[debik]

His sister,
FreshWater will help but in the meantime check your private messages.
Sharlock

how do you check private messages?

[debik]

Hi, I look forward to being able to post here. I've always been drawn to true crime, and for so long thought I was the only one. It's nice to know there are other out here. (It makes me feel more normal....for a long time I thought I might be perverted or something):D

carole, i'm new here too, and i was worried about why i was so curious about true crime too. i'm so relieved!

[Rie]

The title says it all! I'm new here and glad to see others take an interest in continuing to stop all the craziness we seem to live in today

Rie

[grandma]

Welcome aboard

[grandma]

Welcome!:D :D

[froggy]

Oh, another new moderator, Icewater. Welcome. Don't ban anybody and you will be loved forever.

Other suggested waters:

Tepid
Cool
Soft
Hard
Rough
Gentle
Slime
Dirty
Dish

You moderators will have any number of waters to choose from. LOL.

:punch: Don't get smart. That's another fine mess you got me into.

[Annapolitan]

I haven't been here in months ... not sure why ... but have added this forum to my "To Do" list of sites to visit each day that I log onto the Internet. I want to thank Freshwater for sending me a recent email about the Christopher Barrios case. That email brought me back to Crime Library.
:seeya:

[prisonNurse]

Wow! I just waundered in from the ctv boards. Never knew this place was here. Great! More reading to do and less housework..lol :D

[gothgirl]

Hiya, I'm new ere! I've got a massive interest in Serial Killers :eek: I have read many books on them and i also have many films on them! I talk about them lots and prob drive everyone mad :mad: Serial killers are my main hobby and i never get bored with them! I could talk, talk, talk about them, so if there's anyone out there who shares my thoughts then drop by and say hi, take care you all :seeya: x

[Luke Davis]

Here's to you!http://www.circleviewranch.com/files/circleviewguestranch/images/icewater.jpg

[Chocoholic]

Oh, another new moderator, Icewater. Welcome. Don't ban anybody and you will be loved forever.

Other suggested waters:

Tepid
Cool
Soft
Hard
Rough
Gentle
Slime
Dirty
Dish

You moderators will have any number of waters to choose from. LOL.

:punch: Don't get smart. That's another fine mess you got me into.

Don't forget:
River
Ocean
Glacier
Pond
Hot
Troubled
Salt and
Briney

Welcome Icee. All water under the bridge right? :D

[andU]

Welcome to you, Icewater!

[Gaiar]

Welcome Icewater.

[froggy]

Don't forget:
River
Ocean
Glacier
Pond
Hot
Troubled
Salt and
Briney

Welcome Icee. All water under the bridge right? :D

:punch: Say nothing, got it? :rolleyes: Yeah, dud dududdah.

Welcome Ice. You're not a drug are you? If so, then I take it back.

Punch: You can't help yourself, can you?

[froggy]

Some of you may have noticed a new water on the board. If you haven't let me introduce you to our latest team member - ICEWATER :)

Icewater is focusing on regional news of interest. Trust me when I say icee can comb through endless police reports, press releases, and crime notices to pull out stories of interest in various parts of the country. Icee is a great assest to the CL team and we are all thrilled that yet again, CL gets someone will skills in crime news!!

But as always we can't do it alone. Without our members CL just wouldn't work so Icee and I both ask you all to feel free to post stories all over CL but especially in the regional crime news sections.

The plan is that if a regional story gets traction (ie. Members post, comment, investigate, theorize etc... Then a CL reporter will likely get assigned to do a follow-up. So here is your chance to post your local news or respond to something Icee has found and weigh in on WHAT Cl covers.

I hope everyboday will stop by here and say HI to ICEWATER and make icee feel welcome :seeya:

FH20

:( Have we broken with tradition, Freshwater? All the moderators have been ...........water. It seems we now have another moderator called Beautiful One. There are plenty of waters to choose from. IMO.

[walton]

:( Have we broken with tradition, Freshwater? All the moderators have been ...........water. It seems we now have another moderator called Beautiful One. There are plenty of waters to choose from. IMO.

Is this true? Beautiful One is a moderator?

I've been a member of Court tv message boards since 2004. I've never had anyone on ignore. After reading some of BO's posts I have chosen to put her on ignore.

The moderators have access to info about the members, I don't think it is asking too much that the members know a little bit about the moderators.

Is she a moderator?

[sharlock]

Is this true? Beautiful One is a moderator?

I've been a member of Court tv message boards since 2004. I've never had anyone on ignore. After reading some of BO's posts I have chosen to put her on ignore.

The moderators have access to info about the members, I don't think it is asking too much that the members know a little bit about the moderators.

Is she a moderator?

WELCOME ICEWATER CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT YOU'VE GOT!:beer:

I would also be interested to know if Beautiful One is a moderator.:confused:

[sharlock]

Beautiful one is NOT a MODERATOR. You are CORRECT those working for Crime Library as all "****water" Where did this come from?
BeautifulOne (http://boards.crimelibrary.com/member.php?u=103928) http://boards.crimelibrary.com/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif vbmenu_register("postmenu_8844881", true);
Administrator

Quote:
Originally Posted by thewhitewitch1 http://boards.crimelibrary.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showthread.php?p=8845035#post8845035)
I just found this and found it interesting.
http://www.forumsforjustice.org/foru...p?t=3825&pp=50 (http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/printthread.php?t=3825&pp=50)

I was totally disgusted with the things the Ramseys said and implied about the McReynolds. They had them tried and convicted!
If they thought McSanta was so "gay" and distasteful, why on Earth did they keep having him come back? After reading this, doesn't it just shatter your "Christian" image of them? It was just plain nasty. IMO

"Christian" what christian throws their baby on a stage like a prostitute? What christian would be complaining of "oral sex". Yes I read the testimony of the housekeeper, who said Patsy cried to her about John not being satisfied with her oral sex.
__________________
It's a shame that they never arrested Jonbenet's killer when the perpetrator was in their face's.

I think Walton mistook the title Adminsistrator under Bo's title for Moderator. Are there any rules for being an administrator such as guidelines to follow?
Sharlock

[Gaiar]

Im not sure, I think she may of changed her user rank to illustrate that shes an admin at another site.

[sharlock]

Im not sure, I think she may of changed her user rank to illustrate that shes an admin at another site.
Can she do that, does that mean i could go change my rank to Sargeant General if I happened to be one at some point?:D
Sharlock

[walton]

:( Have we broken with tradition, Freshwater? All the moderators have been ...........water. It seems we now have another moderator called Beautiful One. There are plenty of waters to choose from. IMO.


Froggys post is what made me think that BO was a moderator.

This is why I was concerned if she was a moderator here.
http://www.registerflies.com/smf/printpage/438.0.html

and

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:Op7v4mWO6hAJ:www.miamiherald.com/494/story/61790.html+keona+wright+florida&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us


I read a lot more than I post and I chose to put BO on ignore because of the way she posts. A reputation scale might be a good thing for those that are new and haven't read many of the posts on the board. But I base a persons reputation on what they post and how they treat other posters. BO will remain on my ignore list.





Thanks Freshwater for clearing up who is who concerning the moderation on the forum.

[dallasvic]

Hello Icewater,
I am also new here and look forward to reading your work .GOOD LUCK
LATER

[Gaiar]

Freshwater just curious are we allowed to change our user ranks to general made up ones or is that a glitch.

[sharlock]

OK.. A lot to address here...I'll give it a try.. BO is a member like everyone else. It appears she changed here status to admin- it has been corrected and she will be handled if, in fact, she did this...

Crime Library Discussion Forum Roles

Members: The most important group in our community. If you are registered here you are a member.

Forum Leaders: Members can become Forum Leaders by answering a call for leaders. All I ask of FL is a sense of fairness and adherence to the house rules. They must be members in good standing (in terms of infractions) and enjoy a positive reputation in the community at large. When they see something happening on the forum they are a leader in, they try to manage it internally among the members. We have only one forum with leaders /Peterson - and I must say they have done a great job of keeping the forum open and on topic.

Moderators- All moderators are paid by Crime Library and will have a water name. Deep, Ice and Hot have other responsibilities and do not monitor or run the boards although they will post once in a while as members.

Administrators - That's just me, Freshwater, I run the discussion forums for Crime Library. I am charged with creating a dynamic on-line community of crime interested members. I can only hope that's what we are all doing together.

Yes, there are rules that I must adhere to and there are also reviews where I must make my case for my actions etc.. I report directly to the executive editor of Crime Library.

Hope that answers your questions and gets to the some of the background issues.

FH20

Thankyou Freshwater, that does clear up a lot of the questions I had.
Once again Welcome Icewater!:seeya:

[walton]

Freshwater just curious are we allowed to change our user ranks to general made up ones or is that a glitch.

Yes, Freshwater was it just a glitch? Or...

Here is what BO said in thread when asked about it. Her comment is in red.Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by TuscanDreams
I'm a goof, I was so sure it said administrator with your avatar, sorry!

Good thread about this little murdered angel. Brandon Wilson should be granted his wish, he should have no appeals and die by lethal injection as he wants.

Yea I did put administrator there..I was just being funny




Now as I said I read a lot more than I post and it seems odd that BO would not appear on this thread after her name is mentioned even if I did have her on ignore. But she didn't appear at all. Very unlike BO. So her silence here is almost shocking.

How does one change user ranks? We can not. She has access to things the rest of us don't.

Freshwater can you explain this? Could you also explain how she has a website now listed under her name?

If you don't trust the rest of us with these same controls what makes you trust BO over the rest of us?

Trust works both ways. Either BO should be banned for doing things she shouldn't or someone needs to come clean about those that have access to members personal information and is moderating or "pretending" to moderate this board.

I do not trust BO. If BO or any of her other nics has anything to do with this board I am asking you to go ahead and delete my membership and remove my personal informtaion from BO's access. I had trust in Court tv and the Library and I had trust in MB as Freshwater.

Walton

[walton]

http://boards.crimelibrary.com/showthread.php?p=8846409#post8846409 Post number 8 on this thread

Here is the thread that BO said that she said she did it.

[walton]

To the best of my knowledge we were never able to choose our member status. I just now went to my profile and it gave me an option of choosing to have member, super member, and probably administrator.

So what is the purpose of having post counts, member status, and a reputation bar? Post count really didn't mean much to me. I just hated to see posts and links lost in the wind. Not just mine- everyones.


If this option has always been in place than I owe BO an apology for coming down so hard on her for this matter. I am the first to admit my mistakes. I am sorry about this mistake.




But I still mean the rest of the things I said in my prior posts.

Walton

[sharlock]

BO is not an admin. SHe has NO access to any information other than her own. There is (or I should say) was a feature in your usercp that allows you to edit your profile and one of the possible edits was to edit your member status to a costume status - which she did. THIS DOES NOT GRANT HER ACCESS TO ANYONE'S INFORMATION. Please note than in all the time we have been up and running NOONE has violate the rules in this regard and tried to present themselves as someone other than they are....... Enough said!

Sorry for your worries and concerns.

Freshwater

No need for you to apologise FW, I think everyone here has been impressed and satisfied with the prompt and genuine manner that you addressed our concerns. As I have never had any issues to query before this was my first glimpse at the manner you deal with issues on CL and I have to say that I thought you handled it extremely well.:)

[dallasvic]

I totally agree with Sharlock. I joined on 4/20/07 so I have not been here long and I have only had one person feed me negativity. Thats saying alot considering how many members there are and all that goes one and FW got right back to me on that. I have met alot of nice people on here and I am here to stay> Until yall run my off. LOL:tongue: Out of 100 post I have only had one neg. feed back. :cool: That makes me feel good.
FW , I would go nut if I had to do what you do , keeping all of us in line. GREAT JOB
Thanks Everyone for Making Me Feel Welcome:seeya:

[intrigued]

Hello everyone. I am new to this board. Let me start out by saying that I have been a fan of true crime stories for years. I spent eight years working in law enforcement, so very little surprises me. I am excited about being part of the group.

[dallasvic]

I just want to say Hi to everyone new. I have not been here long joined on 20th of April, i feel like I have been here forever. Everyone is so nice here and made me feel welcome ,so i want to make yall feel the same. There are alot good people here.So Hi and Enjoy:beer:
Later:seeya:

[Athena]

Welcome to the forum Icewater! :beer:

[Hey Paula]

Hi Icewater! :seeya:

Welcome aboard!

[sincere]

Hello.

My name is Adam Thomas Walsh. I am 26 year old musician/photographer by day and an amateur criminal psychologist by night.

My father was a policeman for over 30 years and growing up I became interested in crime and its reasons, in particular I became interested in murder.

Since 2004 I have corresponded with a significant number of jailed murderers as another part of understanding criminal behaviour and psychology. I have learnt much from these letters.

I would love to do this professionally but am probably not going to.

[FDInLaw]

WELCOME TO CRIME LIBRARY! :seeya:

[dallasvic]

Hi Everyone,

I have been off line since last wedsday do to a storm that ZAPPED both my computers,but I am back on and wanted to say HI to everyone that has joined since last wensday:lol: I have met alot of nice people in Cl. I joined in April and love it here and am sure you will to

:seeya: LATER.

[Sturgeon_Moon]

Hi Everyone,

I have been off line since last wedsday do to a storm that ZAPPED both my computers,but I am back on and wanted to say HI to everyone that has joined since last wensday:lol: I have met alot of nice people in Cl. I joined in April and love it here and am sure you will to

:seeya: LATER.

:seeya: So sorry about your computers.

[dallasvic]

:seeya: So sorry about your computers.
:shrug: Thanks
You know its hard not have a computer when you have had 2 for years and just one day you wake up and POOF their gone .I hope to have my ac adapter for my laptop in a few days
Thanks Again , I am back in the game again
WELCOME ALL NEW MEMBERS
Great people here. Don't be afraid to ask questions also. At first I did not want members to think I was dumb by asking question ,but one day I just jumped out there and ask and got many great responses.
WELCOME:seeya:

[Sirens]

Hello to all. I feel priveleged to join a board which I have read and used as reference material in my pursuit of truth and justice for several years.
You are a tremendous group of people and I hope you will be patient with a new member while I learn the do's and dont's of CL's netiquette and get my toes wet posting in the forums.

I had so much I wanted to say while I was an interested reader and observer.. now I feel " tongue tied" and a bit shy.

Stop by and say hi. I hope to get to know you!! :)

Thanks.
Sirens

**** All posts are IMHO***

My life philosophy:
" If you have two loaves of bread,
Sell one and buy hyacinths, for the soul."
(source unknown)

[dallasvic]

Hello to all. I feel priveleged to join a board which I have read and used as reference material in my pursuit of truth and justice for several years.
You are a tremendous group of people and I hope you will be patient with a new member while I learn the do's and dont's of CL's netiquette and get my toes wet posting in the forums.

I had so much I wanted to say while I was an interested reader and observer.. now I feel " tongue tied" and a bit shy.

Stop by and say hi. I hope to get to know you!! :)

Thanks.
Sirens

**** All posts are IMHO***

My life philosophy:
" If you have two loaves of bread,
Sell one and buy hyacinths, for the soul."
(source unknown)

Hi,
Welcome to CL.I have not been here long myself . I joined in April and there are a lot of nice people here.
Again Welcome Heres to you:beer:
:seeya: Later
PS. If you need any help just ask everyone is will to help. BYE

[mamabear53]

Welcome Icewater. I'm relatively new to CL and am just learning my way around here. :seeya:

[tazzybaby]

Welcome to the boards IceWater!!

:seeya:

[Sturgeon_Moon]

Welcome Icewater (http://www.icewaterlegion.com/default.aspx?name_query=Ice+Water&name_qs=H4sIAJ3pTUYA_xXKx7aiMAAA0B8aPSHgwywphiYqvW w4QHgmNFEkCl8_M6u7uUBcRDqj9VFGg3CLQl0rqIocZHzXT71C FmZ1JiBdu6hSyybroLXzI4cCx3qDGs-AWtb0BefNTl5kaRfjzplVyFN3EM5JPPnlEzi7SR8ZxdFPen3Lm EjAFKxmGeGc-y1hpJBPY5F6Hn8O7xy_j1KgzkXlF3NrhFgAlicXcgyy2E3Y6L1 A5qg-sPvgtIhR1ZyP9CEjK1c5m27Be32Zb4Ox2ue-7472GayRdVA_Nvd297URR1gS0imGQnrLNVxnDE6dneKzo7VI0l UJdLtUu5wMrjT2ICzr5YkTqG28FQZmk2ZSlefVvFuS2z6uM8tB pRmHzDxmUtdFej5ldofaEb8-Cf0m1X1AFLzcMmzvyAoDc5pj_6RRWYep2Nv2oTOiZDjeWEWe8s fRJpGafK3MVF7utCl_f5pBb1j3G1cZT342iMjtnS25mMfEX2tt mZJN24JUAtGrpyKNxDjkc7B18GjTfG3RLxTHYlHQwCX-FJEWCPUME1YOi-4cq801i2L54omkxeuqKzOW7t5-_6cy8JIb8eolF1AmaInN_pOH4HuF36kW_akayBalcV-PHQqSS29hQsm_f4WXOWr_v39uwi2M_NhX9vu_osm2cF8CAAA.&a7tgl=REVBsCxsu)

[Sturgeon_Moon]

:shrug: Thanks
You know its hard not have a computer when you have had 2 for years and just one day you wake up and POOF their gone .I hope to have my ac adapter for my laptop in a few days
Thanks Again , I am back in the game again
WELCOME ALL NEW MEMBERS
Great people here. Don't be afraid to ask questions also. At first I did not want members to think I was dumb by asking question ,but one day I just jumped out there and ask and got many great responses.
WELCOME:seeya:

Great advice. I've found people love to be helpful, just ask.

[dallasvic]

Just wanted to stop by and say HELLO to any new members :beer: Heres to you .

[froggy]

:seeya: Hi Sincere, You are sincerely welcome to Crime Library.

Froggy

[froggy]

Hello to all. I feel priveleged to join a board which I have read and used as reference material in my pursuit of truth and justice for several years.
You are a tremendous group of people and I hope you will be patient with a new member while I learn the do's and dont's of CL's netiquette and get my toes wet posting in the forums.

I had so much I wanted to say while I was an interested reader and observer.. now I feel " tongue tied" and a bit shy.

Stop by and say hi. I hope to get to know you!! :)

Thanks.
Sirens

**** All posts are IMHO***

My life philosophy:
" If you have two loaves of bread,
Sell one and buy hyacinths, for the soul."
(source unknown)

:seeya: Welcome, Sirens. We have a new members room. It's very plush, swish even. So feel free to join the rest of the members for a chat about absolutely anything. Froggy.

[froggy]

:seeya: Sincere, we also have a General Discussion forum, sort of like an elite club. Virtual. Anyway, you can talk about anything there. Not just crime.

If you have any worries, concerns, issues, everyone here is willing to give an opinion. In my opinion.

[dallasvic]

[quote=Sirens;8854995]Hello to all. I feel priveleged to join a board which I have read and used as reference material in my pursuit of truth and justice for several years.
You are a tremendous group of people and I hope you will be patient with a new member while I learn the do's and dont's of CL's netiquette and get my toes wet posting in the forums.

I had so much I wanted to say while I was an interested reader and observer.. now I feel " tongue tied" and a bit shy.

Stop by and say hi. I hope to get to know you!! :)

Thanks.
Sirens

I just want to stop by and again say HOWDY and WELCOME TO CL. I have not seen you on any post. If you would like to know anything fill free to PM me anytime. Nice people here. you will love it I do
WELCOME:cool:

[Bamafan27]

Hey guys nice to be here at the crime library I found this site the other day while looking for some info about Jimmy Hoffa...anyway I am a college aged guy from Alabama thanks for the info

[froggy]

Hey guys nice to be here at the crime library I found this site the other day while looking for some info about Jimmy Hoffa...anyway I am a college aged guy from Alabama thanks for the info

:seeya: Hi Bamafan. Welcome to the very elite world of Crime Library. I know you'll enjoy yourself here, there's plenty to read and lots to talk about.

We also have a Crime Library Members Club, where we can just discuss anything that comes into our collective lil minds. I think 'Corns on big toes' is the discussion someone has started there. So, feel free to unload your deepest secrets and thoughts to the rest of us to discuss or advise on.