OJ's new Book

[William Anthony]

Yep...& the operative word seems to be "desperate" ;)

Martin,

While it an attempt to get someone to accept the truth may be desperate, attempts to change the truth of the not guilty verdict are impossible and impractical.

[martin II]

Martin,

While it an attempt to get someone to accept the truth may be desperate, attempts to change the truth of the not guilty verdict are impossible and impractical.

william
Whats entertaining is that some believe that the majority opinion is always correct and that any other, minority opinion, is wrong.

A Majority of americans thought it was a great idea to start a war with IRAQ
and told Bush so.

MARTIN ii

[martin II]

Martin,

We do not have to convince ourselves of anything, since the jury said not guilty. It appears that some must try to convince everyone else that Simpson is guilty, a task that they, like the prosecution, have failed to do.

WILLIAM

About half way through the trial i never got the felling that m clarke was into the trial. She seemed to be marking time until the end so she could resign and write her $4,000,000 book.
considering what it was reported that she and darden were doing maby neither were serious in the end.
martin II

[William Anthony]

WILLIAM

About half way through the trial i never got the felling that m clarke was into the trial. She seemed to be marking time until the end so she could resign and write her $4,000,000 book.
considering what it was reported that she and darden were doing maby neither were serious in the end.
martin II

I do think that she had her mind on other things as JC reported she was flirting with him and I am not sure whether she was flirting with Darden during the trial.

[bobaugust]

OJ Simpson's Book Rights to be Auctioned Publicly

http://ktla.trb.com/news/ktla-ojbook,0,789301.story?coll=ktla-news-1

[2L8 4A D8]

OJ Simpson's Book Rights to be Auctioned Publicly

http://ktla.trb.com/news/ktla-ojbook,0,789301.story?coll=ktla-news-1

Hi Bob! If you want to have a chat/love fest regarding this very same subject, log on tomorow night and you can go 1-on-1 with Sassy. Sorry, I can't make it. All IMO!

Today, 05:15 PM
Originally Posted by sassylassy

Post Book Rights to be Auctioned Publicly

I cant stick around tonight to post

but I will back tomorrow nite to pick up where I left off, there are some great posts to reply too...

till then I was wondering what u think of The Goldman family selling (Auction)
the rights to the book?

I thought they wanted to stop the book from coming out cuz they didnt want the public to read it now they are selling it???

http://ktla.trb.com/news/ktla-ojbook...ll=ktla-news-1

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[martin II]

OJ Simpson's Book Rights to be Auctioned Publicly

http://ktla.trb.com/news/ktla-ojbook,0,789301.story?coll=ktla-news-1

freds position has been that he does not want the book printed and sold.
What does he think the buyer at auction will do. win the bid and not publish the book??

It was not a moral issue at all, it was a money issue and fred wanted the money regardless of what he said before.
martin II

[tazzybaby]

freds position has been that he does not want the book printed and sold.
What does he think the buyer at auction will do. win the bid and not publish the book??

It was not a moral issue at all, it was a money issue and fred wanted the money regardless of what he said before.
martin II

This way OJ will not get the rights. Hopefully whoever does buy the rights will either publish it free or will never publish it.

At least OJ won't be able to profit from the murders he committed.

:beer:

[William Anthony]

freds position has been that he does not want the book printed and sold.
What does he think the buyer at auction will do. win the bid and not publish the book??

It was not a moral issue at all, it was a money issue and fred wanted the money regardless of what he said before.
martin II

There may be another issue since the company that have the book rights is a Florida based corporation.

[martin II]

There may be another issue since the company that have the book rights is a Florida based corporation.

I was wondering about that. this problem between states is evident in the ANS case florida vs CA. If a CA court cannot compell oj to sell his FLORIDA assets to pay fred is that the same as compelling him to auction off his florida assets(book rights) to pay fred.

Also, does Oj have the rights to the book Now. or does Harper Colling still own them?
martin II

[William Anthony]

I was wondering about that. this problem between states is evident in the ANS case florida vs CA. If a CA court cannot compell oj to sell his FLORIDA assets to pay fred is that the same as compelling him to auction off his florida assets(book rights) to pay fred.

Also, does Oj have the rights to the book Now. or does Harper Colling still own them?
martin II

Martin,

We know that Simpson is protected by Florida's homested law. If his book rights are part of his homestead, then I would think the answer is no. What I am concerned about is how a California court could interfere with a contract between a citizen of California (assuming one of the parties is a Cali. coproration) and the other a Florida corporation. A corporation is treated as a citizen of the state in which it incoprorates. However, if it regularly conducts business in Cali., the court may have jurisdiction.

[martin II]

Martin,

We know that Simpson is protected by Florida's homested law. If his book rights are part of his homestead, then I would think the answer is no. What I am concerned about is how a California court could interfere with a contract between a citizen of California (assuming one of the parties is a Cali. coproration) and the other a Florida corporation. A corporation is treated as a citizen of the state in which it incoprorates. However, if it regularly conducts business in Cali., the court may have jurisdiction.

william
the court order (as reported in the media) does not state WHO specifically is being ordered to auction off the rights.
If the rights are still owned by Harper Collings, what then?
martin II

[William Anthony]

william
the court order (as reported in the media) does not state WHO specifically is being ordered to auction off the rights.
If the rights are still owned by Harper Collings, what then?
martin II

Martin,

It appears from your link that both corporations have legal interests in the book, which is non-existent, according to Gallanter. So, the ruling, if this is true, is form over substance.

[outeasy]

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[martin II]

Martin,

It appears from your link that both corporations have legal interests in the book, which is non-existent, according to Gallanter. So, the ruling, if this is true, is form over substance.

William

The rights are to go to Oj in May from HC. The judge has ordered the current owner to auction his rights off?

MARTIN ii

[William Anthony]

William

The rights are to go to Oj in May from HC. The judge has ordered the current owner to auction his rights off?

MARTIN ii

Martin,

When I read your post the Lorraine Brooke Association is purportedly owend by Simpson's four children. I do not understand how the judge could have included that foreign corporation it the ruling. I think there will be another legal battle in which lawyers will profit. I must hurry to pass the bar.

[martin II]

Martin,

When I read your post the Lorraine Brooke Association is purportedly owend by Simpson's four children. I do not understand how the judge could have included that foreign corporation it the ruling. I think there will be another legal battle in which lawyers will profit. I must hurry to pass the bar.

william

oj's lawyer on LKL last night.
He says a CA federal judge ruled a few weeks ago that ca had no juridsdiction
over Florida company and had directed Freds lawyers to file in Florida.

Oj no longer has connection to Lorriane Brook Ass.

Oj's lawyers will go back to federal judge and will appeal state judges decision
of yesterday.

martin II

[fbgweezer]

maybe whoever gets the rights to the book will destroy it just like the person who bought orenthal's Rockingham place.

[martin II]

maybe whoever gets the rights to the book will destroy it just like the person who bought orenthal's Rockingham place.

weezer
where have you been for the last several days.have not seen you posting.

martin II

[martin II]

This way OJ will not get the rights. Hopefully whoever does buy the rights will either publish it free or will never publish it.

At least OJ won't be able to profit from the murders he committed.

:beer:

tazzy hi

The rights do not go to OJ. They go to a Florida company owned totally by OJ simpson's children.
martin II

[sassylassy]

Hi Bob! If you want to have a chat/love fest regarding this very same subject, log on tomorow night and you can go 1-on-1 with Sassy. Sorry, I can't make it. All IMO!

[/i]


I couldnt make it either....oh well!

C'est la Vie :beer:

[sassylassy]

tazzy hi

The rights do not go to OJ. They go to a Florida company owned totally by OJ simpson's children.
martin II

Thats my understanding from watching the Goldmans on Larry King the other night...

they will only get the money from the sale from the book @ the auction :read:...

but I'm sure thats subject to change soon!
imo moo

[sassylassy]

maybe whoever gets the rights to the book will destroy it just like the person who bought orenthal's Rockingham place.

:shrug:or maybe no one will buy it at all!:shrug:

wouldn't that be a kicker:eek:

[baby42]

he is a sick person why would he even write something like that he did it and now he rubbing it in every body face even his kids i hope some thing in the book that he lie about and they can put in jail for that:mad:

[martin II]

:shrug:or maybe no one will buy it at all!:shrug:

wouldn't that be a kicker:eek:

sassy hi

I am wondering if Fred will be on LKL promoting the sale of the book.
martin II

[martin II]

he is a sick person why would he even write something like that he did it and now he rubbing it in every body face even his kids i hope some thing in the book that he lie about and they can put in jail for that:mad:

baby42

I think Oj participated in the book deal for the $800.000 he has received and for any additional monies his children would have received if he had sold the book.
martin II

[fbgweezer]

:shrug:or maybe no one will buy it at all!:shrug:

wouldn't that be a kicker:eek:

but don't you know it would make orenthal absolutely crazy IF there was money made from the book by anyone but him.

[fbgweezer]

baby42

I think Oj participated in the book deal for the $800.000 he has received and for any additional monies his children would have received if he had sold the book.
martin II

I think orenthal participated in the book deal for all the monies from the sale of the book. IF he was worried about his children, he wouldn't have spent the upfront money on himself.

[martin II]

I think orenthal participated in the book deal for all the monies from the sale of the book. IF he was worried about his children, he wouldn't have spent the upfront money on himself.

weezer

OJ has said he spent the money on his taxes,his childrens tuition and the childrens trust. This is however media reports. If you have a more detailed
list of expenditures on how he spent all of the money on himself then you would be in a position to know exactly where the money went.

martin II

[outeasy]

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[martin II]

but don't you know it would make orenthal absolutely crazy IF there was money made from the book by anyone but him.

weezer

i agree that oj would not be pleased if fred does receive the rights to the book and then saw fred on LKL promoting the book that fred has told the world was GARGABE/TRASH and is the person that led the boycott of the book.:D

martin II

[fbgweezer]

weezer

i agree that oj would not be pleased if fred does receive the rights to the book and then saw fred on LKL promoting the book that fred has told the world was GARGABE/TRASH and is the person that led the boycott of the book.:D

martin II

I don't pretend to know what the Goldmans are thinking about the book except what has been stated about their opposition to orenthal making money off of the murders. I believe they thought orenthal was trying to use the book to once again give himself a pulpit where he could tell people he wasn't guilty AND he would be in control of the story. If the Goldmans want to publish the book and use it to further prove orenthal the murderer, I say go for it.

[martin II]

I don't pretend to know what the Goldmans are thinking about the book except what has been stated about their opposition to orenthal making money off of the murders. I believe they thought orenthal was trying to use the book to once again give himself a pulpit where he could tell people he wasn't guilty AND he would be in control of the story. If the Goldmans want to publish the book and use it to further prove orenthal the murderer, I say go for it.

weezer

If what has been reported is true, the books contents will prevent that.
Fred selling the book will confirm that it was always about him trying to get rich on the deatrh of Ron from oj or anyother means available.
But most alread know this.
martin II

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi

The rights do not go to OJ. They go to a Florida company owned totally by OJ simpson's children.
martin II

Hi Martin,

The judge decided that Simpson set that up so that he could avoid paying the judgement. That's why he ruled against OJ. Not to mention OJ said that he used that money to pay bills. He didn't put that money in there for his children.

:rolleyes:

[fbgweezer]

weezer

If what has been reported is true, the books contents will prevent that.
Fred selling the book will confirm that it was always about him trying to get rich on the deatrh of Ron from oj or anyother means available.
But most alread know this.
martin II

I'm one of the 'most people' and I don't agree with your assessment. orenthal james simpson murdered Ron. IMO, the Goldmans have every right to do everything legal and lawful to make orenthal pay for that.

[martin II]

Hi Martin,

The judge decided that Simpson set that up so that he could avoid paying the judgement. That's why he ruled against OJ. Not to mention OJ said that he used that money to pay bills. He didn't put that money in there for his children.

:rolleyes:

Tazzy hi
what i think we need is a copy of the judges decision so we can see exactly what was ordered. Oj also said he secured his childrens future with some of the money. I assume that he is talking about the trust.

What is strange is the first FEDERAL judge tossed the case saying his CA court did not have jurisdiction and told Goldman he should go to Florida courts, yet a lower state court ruled on the case.:shrug:
martin II

[tazzybaby]

Tazzy hi
what i think we need is a copy of the judges decision so we can see exactly what was ordered. Oj also said he secured his childrens future with some of the money. I assume that he is talking about the trust.

What is strange is the first FEDERAL judge tossed the case saying his CA court did not have jurisdiction and told Goldman he should go to Florida courts, yet a lower state court ruled on the case.:shrug:
martin II


LOL!! OJ spent the money on himself and his bills. That's why there was no money for the Goldman's to receive. The trust was empty.

I also don't believe anything that Yale says. Honestly, he doesn't know what he's talking about. OJ doesn't tell him everything.

:shrug:

[martin II]

LOL!! OJ spent the money on himself and his bills. That's why there was no money for the Goldman's to receive. The trust was empty.

I also don't believe anything that Yale says. Honestly, he doesn't know what he's talking about. OJ doesn't tell him everything.

:shrug:


tazzy hi

Oj said he paid taxes on the house that his kids live in and will inherit, his childrens tuition and put something in his childrens trust and paid some other bills.

How do you know the trust was empty?
How do you know that he did something with the money other than what he said?

However, various media reports have claimed to know different information on this issue.

Not for one minute do i beleive that oj spent all of the $850,000.00 or $1,300,000 the media thinks he got. It is just that Fred does not have access to it.

But since fred may be getting the rights to the book, we now know it was always about FRED going after and getting the money. "SHOW ME THE MONEY" is freds cry.
martin II

[fbgweezer]

*Snipped*But since fred may be getting the rights to the book, we now know it was always about FRED going after and getting the money. "SHOW ME THE MONEY" is freds cry.

LOL -- maybe Mr. Goldman wants to secure his family's future just like orenthal did.

[martin II]

*Snipped*

LOL -- maybe Mr. Goldman wants to secure his family's future just like orenthal did.

WEEZER

Maby he should get a old fashioned JOB and stop asking lawyers to make him rich seeking another persons money. After 12 years.
martin II

[fbgweezer]

WEEZER

Maby he should get a old fashioned JOB and stop asking lawyers to make him rich seeking another persons money. After 12 years.
martin II

LOL -- unlike orenthal, Fred Goldman has been working and supporting his family honestly and honorably for the past 12 years. Maybe orenthal needs to pay his debts.

[martin II]

LOL -- unlike orenthal, Fred Goldman has been working and supporting his family honestly and honorably for the past 12 years. Maybe orenthal needs to pay his debts.

weezer

I remember after the trial fred had a radio program. Does he still do that or does he do something else, if you would like to share your inside info on him.
MARTIN ii

[martin II]

LOL -- unlike orenthal, Fred Goldman has been working and supporting his family honestly and honorably for the past 12 years. Maybe orenthal needs to pay his debts.

weezer
This is beginning to sound like a broke record. Exactly what debts do you know oj owe and how do youy know this? If you would like to share.
martin II

[tazzybaby]

weezer
This is beginning to sound like a broke record. Exactly what debts do you know oj owe and how do youy know this? If you would like to share.
martin II

He owes for satellite that he ILLEGALLY stole. He owes a civil judgement for the MURDERS HE COMMITTED.

OJ is not a good person. He hides, sneaks, lies and cheats. And, let's not forget that he is also a murderer.

[martin II]

He owes for satellite that he ILLEGALLY stole. He owes a civil judgement for the MURDERS HE COMMITTED.

OJ is not a good person. He hides, sneaks, lies and cheats. And, let's not forget that he is also a murderer.

tazzy hi

I would think that oj paid all the old bills that you think he still owed with the $850,000 he made on the book deal if not before.

If the title to the book is given to fred it looks like he will finally get paid by whoever wins the auction and pays for it. I hope it is enough so that fred can
decide that he is ahead of the game and move on with his life.
The Canadian publisher said on ctv yesterday that he believes he can Raise $7,000,00 to $10,000,000 if he publishes the book. I just hope that fred is not
required to promote the sale of the book. That may be difficult for him.
martin II

[martin II]

He owes for satellite that he ILLEGALLY stole. He owes a civil judgement for the MURDERS HE COMMITTED.

OJ is not a good person. He hides, sneaks, lies and cheats. And, let's not forget that he is also a murderer.

tazzy hi

whether oj is a murderer or not depends on whch jury one believes or whether one wants to toss out the CJS and use ones personal opinions on guilt or not.

martin II

[chickenhouse]

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the interview?

I'm dying to see it.

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi

I would think that oj paid all the old bills that you think he still owed with the $850,000 he made on the book deal if not before.

If the title to the book is given to fred it looks like he will finally get paid by whoever wins the auction and pays for it. I hope it is enough so that fred can
decide that he is ahead of the game and move on with his life.
The Canadian publisher said on ctv yesterday that he believes he can Raise $7,000,00 to $10,000,000 if he publishes the book. I just hope that fred is not
required to promote the sale of the book. That may be difficult for him.
martin II

Hi Martin,

OJ didn't pay for his Satellite bill. That's $25,000. He's not going to pay for that just like he isn't paying for the civil judgement. Why? Because as I said before, he lies, hides sneaks and cheats.

There is no amount that OJ could ever pay to make Fred's pain go away. Ever. But, I am sure that there is some type of gratification on Fred's part to take something away from OJ. OJ should have never profitted from the murders anyway. He killed them then makes money off of it. What a low life.

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi

whether oj is a murderer or not depends on whch jury one believes or whether one wants to toss out the CJS and use ones personal opinions on guilt or not.

martin II

It was shown in the civil trial that he is a murderer. And, he has shown by his actions what a low life he can be.

[martin II]

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the interview?

I'm dying to see it.

CHICKENHOUSE
HI

The fox interview was never aired as the goldmans forced fox to cancel the interview and book sale.

martin II

[martin II]

Hi Martin,

OJ didn't pay for his Satellite bill. That's $25,000. He's not going to pay for that just like he isn't paying for the civil judgement. Why? Because as I said before, he lies, hides sneaks and cheats.

There is no amount that OJ could ever pay to make Fred's pain go away. Ever. But, I am sure that there is some type of gratification on Fred's part to take something away from OJ. OJ should have never profitted from the murders anyway. He killed them then makes money off of it. What a low life.


tazzy hi

i don't know if the satalite bill was paid since the court decision and i don't think you do either.imo.

OJ informed all that he did not do the crime and he was not going to pay a penny. The publisher may pay fred and i hope he can see that payment as a freebe and move on.
Everyone that wrote a book about this case did so for money without regard to the moral issue and freds feelings. OJ did not kill Ron so he has a right to profit just like the others.

It seems that fred is quite willing to take what he has called BLOOD MONEY and for him there is no moral issue.
martin II

martin II

[martin II]

It was shown in the civil trial that he is a murderer. And, he has shown by his actions what a low life he can be.

tazzy hi

The civil trial was as all civil trials are, to only require a very lower standard
of proof for it is recognized that this trial is about making someone pay money. NOT time in jail.

Considering how the judge in the civil trial stripped out many issues and arguments of the defense that were allowed in the serious trial, it was obvious that the civil trial was a set up to make sure oj simpson paid money.

Public opinion damamded that the judge make sure oj's defense was hampered by the judges decision to strip the defense of valid arguments. The jury members of Santa Monica knew they would be the subject of public scorn and rejection and they gave a decision that satified the public.imo

martin II

[Kate Sachel]

The Goldmans did not force FOX to cancel the interview; public outrage expressed by millions of individuals forced FOX to cancel the interview.

An excellent business decision as the result of excellent use of the public's right to protest the idea that a murderer should be allowed to profit from his crimes.

Kate

[Kayleighjo]

The Goldmans did not force FOX to cancel the interview; public outrage expressed by millions of individuals forced FOX to cancel the interview.

An excellent business decision as the result of excellent use of the public's right to protest the idea that a murderer should be allowed to profit from his crimes.

Kate

THANK YOU!

It really hacks me off when people whine about how Fred did such and such. It must really bother the sickos of the world who support OJ and kept track of the books rankings on Amazon.

[fbgweezer]

*Snipped*. . .The publisher may pay fred and i hope he can see that payment as a freebe and move on.

. . .It seems that fred is quite willing to take what he has called BLOOD MONEY and for him there is no moral issue.


The Goldmans would pay many times over the amount of money orenthal owes them to have their son and brother back.

Yes, I guess it could be considered blood money -- the blood of Fred Goldman's son, Ron. How in the world you would think that the murderer, orenthal james simpson, should profit for that horrific act is beyond me.

[martin II]

*Snipped*

The Goldmans would pay many times over the amount of money orenthal owes them to have their son and brother back.

Yes, I guess it could be considered blood money -- the blood of Fred Goldman's son, Ron. How in the world you would think that the murderer, orenthal james simpson, should profit for that horrific act is beyond me.

WEEZER
You need to tell fred that money will not bring Ron back. Well initially it was blood money because oj made money on the book. Now it is Rons blood that makes the money bloody because fred is trying to make money off the same book.

Freds hands will be red after the auction.

martin II

[fbgweezer]

WEEZER
You need to tell fred that money will not bring Ron back. Well initially it was blood money because oj made money on the book. Now it is Rons blood that makes the money bloody because fred is trying to make money off the same book.

Freds hands will be red after the auction.

martin II

why don't you tell Mr. Goldman that the murderer of his son shouldn't pay for his crime because the murderer and his apologists say he shouldn't. And, martin, it was always Ron's blood that made orenthal profiting from the horrific crime he committed blood money. Mr. Goldman isn't trying to make money off the same book. Mr. Goldman is going to make sure orenthal never receives another dime from the book.

orenthal's face is going to be red after the auction. Hope he's learned to control his rage.

[Suzee10]

He owes for satellite that he ILLEGALLY stole. He owes a civil judgement for the MURDERS HE COMMITTED.

OJ is not a good person. He hides, sneaks, lies and cheats. And, let's not forget that he is also a murderer.




Totally!!! :beer:

[martin II]

why don't you tell Mr. Goldman that the murderer of his son shouldn't pay for his crime because the murderer and his apologists say he shouldn't. And, martin, it was always Ron's blood that made orenthal profiting from the horrific crime he committed blood money. Mr. Goldman isn't trying to make money off the same book. Mr. Goldman is going to make sure orenthal never receives another dime from the book.

orenthal's face is going to be red after the auction. Hope he's learned to control his rage.

weezer
you can try to twist this issue any way that you like. The fact is that Fred is going to make money on the auction of the book which he previously called garbage, if it does take place.
At least the Brown family says he is and they are asking people not to participate in the auction.

martin ii

[fbgweezer]

weezer
you can try to twist this issue any way that you like. The fact is that Fred is going to make money on the auction of the book which he previously called garbage, if it does take place.
At least the Brown family says he is and they are asking people not to participate in the auction.

martin ii

hmmmm -- I don't have to twist this issue. The facts are this: orenthal murdered Fred Goldman's son and then made videos and finally wrote his confession. orenthal received almost a million dollars for his confession. orenthal thought it was great fun to throw that in the face of Mr. Goldman. Mr. Goldman is trying to make sure that orenthal -- the Butcher of Brentwood -- never makes another dime from the book.

I have not seen the Brown's join in any fight.

[martin II]

hmmmm -- I don't have to twist this issue. The facts are this: orenthal murdered Fred Goldman's son and then made videos and finally wrote his confession. orenthal received almost a million dollars for his confession. orenthal thought it was great fun to throw that in the face of Mr. Goldman. Mr. Goldman is trying to make sure that orenthal -- the Butcher of Brentwood -- never makes another dime from the book.

I have not seen the Brown's join in any fight.

weezer
streatching and twisting again

The browns are quoted in the same newsweek article posted above.

martin II

[Jayme K]

Ah, the good ole "hypothetical".

Isn't that how Ted Bundy confessed? Classic narcissism, and I think that is the common trait of OJ Simpson. NPDs can’t stand scrutiny, nor will they ever accept responsibility for their deeds, but they want the spotlight; which is why they couch it in the detached third person.

I'd watch the interview though. OJ is guiltier than sin, but it’s funny trying to watch him talk his way out of it.

[socaldiva]

*snip*
I'd watch the interview though. OJ is guiltier than sin, but it’s funny trying to watch him talk his way out of it.


I agree :tongue: and welcome to the board :seeya:

[AmyW]

I also agree and welcome you to the board! :seeya:

[Wukong]

I am not sure if anyone here has seen the book yet. If not, here is a link to the book. I am not sure if it's the entire book (it's 118 pgs) but you can download a PDF version here. If the link doesn't work then PM me your email address and I'll email the PDF version to you.

http://scribblednoise.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/oj-simpson-if-i-did-itleaked/

[martin II]

I am not sure if anyone here has seen the book yet. If not, here is a link to the book. I am not sure if it's the entire book (it's 118 pgs) but you can download a PDF version here. If the link doesn't work then PM me your email address and I'll email the PDF version to you.

http://scribblednoise.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/oj-simpson-if-i-did-itleaked/

wukong
i and some others already have the book. it was on ebay and many other sites. free.
thanks
martin II

[Suzee10]

I am not sure if anyone here has seen the book yet. If not, here is a link to the book. I am not sure if it's the entire book (it's 118 pgs) but you can download a PDF version here. If the link doesn't work then PM me your email address and I'll email the PDF version to you.

http://scribblednoise.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/oj-simpson-if-i-did-itleaked/


Thanks Wukong. Long time no see. How are you?

[socaldiva]

Yes, Thank you Wukong.

I see that Orenthal was "shocked" when Marguerite tells him she is 5 months pregnant with their 3rd child. Not a very observant fellow :rolleyes:

[Suzee10]

Yes, Thank you Wukong.

I see that Orenthal was "shocked" when Marguerite tells him she is 5 months pregnant with their 3rd child. Not a very observant fellow :rolleyes:


He was not only shocked and non-observant about it he was not very happy either.

[martin II]

Thanks Wukong. Long time no see. How are you?

suzee

it seems that many people are contributing to the leakage.imo
martin II

[Suzee10]

suzee

it seems that many people are contributing to the leakage.imo
martin II



Yes you are here, aren't you MartinII.

[Suzee10]

I have been reading this bs book that Wukong provided and simpson goes on and on about how bad on drugs Nicole was, as bad as Faye, but when she was murdered she had no trace of drugs in her body at all. Why does he keep telling such outrageous lies that can be proved that he is a liar? Has he forgotten the medical examiner's report? Are we supposed to believe him and just forget all of the reports that proves he is lying? This guy is a joke.

[fbgweezer]

I have been reading this bs book that Wukong provided and simpson goes on and on about how bad on drugs Nicole was, as bad as Faye, but when she was murdered she had no trace of drugs in her body at all. Why does he keep telling such outrageous lies that can be proved that he is a liar? Has he forgotten the medical examiner's report? Are we supposed to believe him and just forget all of the reports that proves he is lying? This guy is a joke.

you're not going to find many on this board that will disagree with you. Except I would have used the word 'slime' rather than 'joke.' ;)

[Suzee10]

you're not going to find many on this board that will disagree with you. Except I would have used the word 'slime' rather than 'joke.' ;)


You are so right. simpson is a total slime to write this about two people that were totally innocent of anything except being there to be murdered by this scum bucket.

You can see in this so called book he cannot and does not even try to explain away the blood in the Bronco or at Bundy or Rockingham. He knew he would screw that up big time.

[Wukong]

suzee

it seems that many people are contributing to the leakage.imo
martin II

Leakage of what, pray tell?

[Wukong]

I have been reading this bs book that Wukong provided and simpson goes on and on about how bad on drugs Nicole was, as bad as Faye, but when she was murdered she had no trace of drugs in her body at all. Why does he keep telling such outrageous lies that can be proved that he is a liar? Has he forgotten the medical examiner's report? Are we supposed to believe him and just forget all of the reports that proves he is lying? This guy is a joke.


Hey Suzee,

Well, OJ did say this book was complete fiction. What's funny is that he doesn't even realize his wife, who he lives with, is 5 months pregnant but he knows Nicole was on drugs when he admitted to not seeing much of her in some time leading up to the murders.

[Wukong]

I posted a link to Arnelle's deposition in the bankruptcy of (cough..cough...ahem) her company, Lorraine Brooke associates, given on June 13th, 2007, in the links thread.

Well, I just the whole thing. Either Arnelle is the dumbest person on earth or she is covering up for her father. She sets up her own company for her and her siblings to make money from OJ's book. Then Harper Collins is depositing hundreds of thousands of dollars into her company account and her father is promptly taking it out, and she knows nothing about it....Yeah, right..I might have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.

http://abcnews.go.com/images/US/Arnell_Simpson_Deposition_061307.pdf

[martin II]

I posted a link to Arnelle's deposition in the bankruptcy of (cough..cough...ahem) her company, Lorraine Brooke associates, given on June 13th, 2007, in the links thread.

Well, I just the whole thing. Either Arnelle is the dumbest person on earth or she is covering up for her father. She sets up her own company for her and her siblings to make money from OJ's book. Then Harper Collins is depositing hundreds of thousands of dollars into her company account and her father is promptly taking it out, and she knows nothing about it....Yeah, right..I might have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.

http://abcnews.go.com/images/US/Arnell_Simpson_Deposition_061307.pdf


This was posted during the TMZ activity or by TMZ
but thanks
martin II

[tazzybaby]

I posted a link to Arnelle's deposition in the bankruptcy of (cough..cough...ahem) her company, Lorraine Brooke associates, given on June 13th, 2007, in the links thread.

Well, I just the whole thing. Either Arnelle is the dumbest person on earth or she is covering up for her father. She sets up her own company for her and her siblings to make money from OJ's book. Then Harper Collins is depositing hundreds of thousands of dollars into her company account and her father is promptly taking it out, and she knows nothing about it....Yeah, right..I might have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.

http://abcnews.go.com/images/US/Arnell_Simpson_Deposition_061307.pdf

Hey Wukong!

I was wondering if anyone was going to discuss this issue. I just finished reading the whole thing yesterday. I have been soooo busy! But, she comes across as covering up for him, completely. And, there were references to "you'll have to ask Leonardo" and he replied with "I've tried". I understand completely why the judge ruled the way he did and found that the LBA was not on the up and up. Anyone can see by reading this just how far those close to OJ will go to protect him. I think that Arnelle thought she did good. She came across as not very intelligent and part of the scheme of helping to hide the money. I giggled when she kept saying she didn't really know about the Goldman's lawsuit. She tried to make it seem like she didn't really know anything about all that. lol

I wish they had Leonardo's and OJ's deposition available!

[Wukong]

She definitely came off as very dumb. I don't know if it was an act or she really didn't know anything. She also came off as very greedy. She didn't know anything, but she was all about making money off the deal. The lawyer asks her what services LBA provided that justified LBA making money...she didn't really have an answer for that, save for..."You're confusing me...You'll have to ask Leonardo". What a SCAM!

[tazzybaby]

OMG! I completely agree. It was so obvious that it was all a scam. She was trying to act like she didn't know anything about anything she was just trying to make money.

:cuss:

[martin II]

OMG! I completely agree. It was so obvious that it was all a scam. She was trying to act like she didn't know anything about anything she was just trying to make money.

:cuss:

tazzy hi

I think every individual involved directly and indirectly with this book is TRYING TO MAKE MONEY.
When they say it is not about the money, IT IS ABOUT THE MONEY.
martin II

[Suzee10]

She definitely came off as very dumb. I don't know if it was an act or she really didn't know anything. She also came off as very greedy. She didn't know anything, but she was all about making money off the deal. The lawyer asks her what services LBA provided that justified LBA making money...she didn't really have an answer for that, save for..."You're confusing me...You'll have to ask Leonardo". What a SCAM!



I do not think anyone is this stupid Wukong. She is crazy like a fox!!!

[socaldiva]

I do not think anyone is this stupid Wukong. She is crazy like a fox!!!

You'd have to be pretty stupid to not formulate better answers. I "dunno" isn't a very bright or believable answer :tongue:

[Suzee10]

You'd have to be pretty stupid to not formulate better answers. I "dunno" isn't a very bright or believable answer :tongue:


I totally agree! :beer:

[fbgweezer]

In her deposition she said that she was approached by a friend. Well, it turns out that the person was actually a friend of her dad. what do you want to bet that orenthal cooked up the deal with his buddy and once again had arnelle helping him? imo

[Suzee10]

In her deposition she said that she was approached by a friend. Well, it turns out that the person was actually a friend of her dad. what do you want to bet that orenthal cooked up the deal with his buddy and once again had arnelle helping him? imo


Arnell has been "helping" old dad simpson from the start. One day she may live to regret it.

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi

I think every individual involved directly and indirectly with this book is TRYING TO MAKE MONEY.
When they say it is not about the money, IT IS ABOUT THE MONEY.
martin II

Hi Martin,

I have NO DOUBT that she was trying to make money. It is just so disappointing to see Sydney and Justins family trying to make money off of their mother's murder. It's different when it's someone who is suppose to love you and look out for you. IMO Sydney and Justin are so alone in their heart ache of losing their mother. Thank goodness they have each other!

[tazzybaby]

In her deposition she said that she was approached by a friend. Well, it turns out that the person was actually a friend of her dad. what do you want to bet that orenthal cooked up the deal with his buddy and once again had arnelle helping him? imo

Hi Weezer!

That's exactly what I think! So, so sad!

:(

[martin II]

Hi Martin,

I have NO DOUBT that she was trying to make money. It is just so disappointing to see Sydney and Justins family trying to make money off of their mother's murder. It's different when it's someone who is suppose to love you and look out for you. IMO Sydney and Justin are so alone in their heart ache of losing their mother. Thank goodness they have each other!

tazzy hi
Like i said everybody involved in any way is trying to make money regardless fo what they say. All famalies and Lawyers included imo
martin II

[fbgweezer]

tazzy hi
Like i said everybody involved in any way is trying to make money regardless fo what they say. All famalies and Lawyers included imo
martin II

it makes it no less obscene that arnelle (believed by many to be a co-conspirator) would be trying to profit from the murders. imo

[martin II]

it makes it no less obscene that arnelle (believed by many to be a co-conspirator) would be trying to profit from the murders. imo

weezer

I doubt that Arnell or anyone in her family has any reason to be concerned with what others think about their actions as there is nothing that strangers do or think that impack on them or their lives. They are in control of their lives
not others.imo

martin II

[tazzybaby]

weezer

I doubt that Arnell or anyone in her family has any reason to be concerned with what others think about their actions as there is nothing that strangers do or think that impack on them or their lives. They are in control of their lives
not others.imo

martin II

Hi Martin,

I agree with you that Arnell doesn't care what others think about her actions. To me, that is obvious. I would think that she would feel a desire to protect her younger siblings. To me, her need for money outweighs any protection she may feel towards her siblings.

I agree with Weezer, that just because others are making money it does not lessen the obvious obscenity of her actions. And, I know of no other parties (except OJ) that are accused of lying and obstructing justice in order to obtain their money.

:no:

[martin II]

Hi Martin,

I agree with you that Arnell doesn't care what others think about her actions. To me, that is obvious. I would think that she would feel a desire to protect her younger siblings. To me, her need for money outweighs any protection she may feel towards her siblings.

I agree with Weezer, that just because others are making money it does not lessen the obvious obscenity of her actions. And, I know of no other parties (except OJ) that are accused of lying and obstructing justice in order to obtain their money.

:no:

tazzy hi
it is my understanding that Arnell has a career in the fashion industry in LA and New York which causes her to travel a lot. So it seems that she supports herself. It was reported that all of the children, all are over 18 now, agreed to be a part of LBA and do that business.

I am not a part of their family and have no INSIDE information as others seem to have about their affairs. The last picture i saw of them they seemed to be
pleased as a family unit or at least in taking the pictures.

I make no moral judgement of others activities as i am not in their shoes. What i do believe is that everyone is going after this money that oj and HC created when the book was created. Some give different reasons to justify their actions and to get public support but in the end EVERYONE is going after any money they can get from this book.
No one is talking about doing any public good if they get this money so i assume that all are interested in personal enrichment for themselves. Lawyers included. imo

martin II

[fbgweezer]

*Snipped* ". . .it is my understanding that Arnell has a career in the fashion industry in LA and New York which causes her to travel a lot. So it seems that she supports herself."

LOL -- she said in her deposition that she borrows airfare from her daddy and then pays him back. Yep, she's a real jetsetter. LOL

[martin II]

LOL -- she said in her deposition that she borrows airfare from her daddy and then pays him back. Yep, she's a real jetsetter. LOL

She is a beautiful black woman working to establish herself in her chosen field. I doubt that Arnell is aware that she occupies so much of your concentration and time.

Jealousy can be harmful.:no:


imo
martin II

[martin II]

LOL -- she said in her deposition that she borrows airfare from her daddy and then pays him back. Yep, she's a real jetsetter. LOL

you may not now it but that is just one of the functions of a parent. It lease it has been my experience that a lot of offsprings think so.
Giving assistance to your child is a duty of a parent.
imo
martin II

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi
it is my understanding that Arnell has a career in the fashion industry in LA and New York which causes her to travel a lot. So it seems that she supports herself. It was reported that all of the children, all are over 18 now, agreed to be a part of LBA and do that business.

I am not a part of their family and have no INSIDE information as others seem to have about their affairs. The last picture i saw of them they seemed to be
pleased as a family unit or at least in taking the pictures.

I make no moral judgement of others activities as i am not in their shoes. What i do believe is that everyone is going after this money that oj and HC created when the book was created. Some give different reasons to justify their actions and to get public support but in the end EVERYONE is going after any money they can get from this book.
No one is talking about doing any public good if they get this money so i assume that all are interested in personal enrichment for themselves. Lawyers included. imo

martin II

If Arnelle is successful at her business affairs then I don't understand why she was trying to make money off of Justin and Sydney's misfortune?? That makes it even worse!! And, it is very hard to believe that she is successful at any business affair after reading her deposition. She doesn't seem to business savvy. It also came out of Arnelle's mouth that Sydney and Justin didn't want this to happen in the beginning. IMO it should have ended there. A child will always try to please their family and if they felt like they were letting them down by not agreeing then they may have felt they should agree. That's not a healthy position for a child to be in. The children should be more important than any dollar amount. Ever!

Pictures don't always tell everything. Many, many, many people pose and smile for the camera's but aren't necessarily happy. We know certain things about their personal affairs because they have been aired out in public. I know enough to make my OWN personal opinion.

Well, when a child is involved I tend to make my own personal moral opinions. I guess that comes from holding my own children so dear to me.

Everyone else who is going after this money does not have a blood tie to the children. Anyone else who is going after this money is not related to the children and therefore hold no personal responsibility for their well being. The one's who are exploiting them for profit are their family members. The others are after the fact and not personally attacking the children.

[tazzybaby]

you may not now it but that is just one of the functions of a parent. It lease it has been my experience that a lot of offsprings think so.
Giving assistance to your child is a duty of a parent.
imo
martin II

Most offspring by Arnelle's age are already established and don't have to borrow money from their parents any longer. And, those that do usually have some life event happen that was unforseen.

Giving assistance to your child is not a duty of a parent. Now you are making a moral judgement. A good parent would help their child whether it's giving money or not. Sometimes a good parent see's a child taking advantage of their generousity and stops handing out money. A good parent will never try to profit off of their children's trajedy. That is truly a duty of a parent.

[martin II]

Most offspring by Arnelle's age are already established and don't have to borrow money from their parents any longer. And, those that do usually have some life event happen that was unforseen.

Giving assistance to your child is not a duty of a parent. Now you are making a moral judgement. A good parent would help their child whether it's giving money or not. Sometimes a good parent see's a child taking advantage of their generousity and stops handing out money. A good parent will never try to profit off of their children's trajedy. That is truly a duty of a parent.

tazzy hi

You may not have understood the intent of my post. However i think that the relationship between a parent and a child is not goverened by any set rules. I beleive it is based on the person of the child and the parent and what they believe is beneficial to both. I beleive it is personal and unique.

imo
martin II

[socaldiva]

She is a beautiful black woman working to establish herself in her chosen field. I doubt that Arnell is aware that she occupies so much of your concentration and time.

Jealousy can be harmful.:no:


imo
martin II

"working to establish herself"? She better pick up the pace or she'll be doing it from the retirement home. :biggrin:

I doubt that Arnell is aware that she occupies so much of your concentration and time. Trust me, no one here is jealous of Arnelle. Gawd.

[fbgweezer]

"working to establish herself"? She better pick up the pace or she'll be doing it from the retirement home. :biggrin:

I doubt that Arnell is aware that she occupies so much of your concentration and time. Trust me, no one here is jealous of Arnelle. Gawd.

ROFLMAO ---------- :beer:

[fbgweezer]

She is a beautiful black woman working to establish herself in her chosen field. I doubt that Arnell is aware that she occupies so much of your concentration and time.

Jealousy can be harmful.:no:


imo
martin II

she is in her late 30's, living with her daddy, borrowing airfare, trying to sell a book about how her father murdered the mother of her brother and sister, and suspected by many to be a co-conspirator in the murders.

Exactly what field is she trying to establish herself in?

[socaldiva]

she is in her late 30's, living with her daddy, borrowing airfare, trying to sell a book about how her father murdered the mother of her brother and sister, and suspected by many to be a co-conspirator in the murders.

Exactly what field is she trying to establish herself in?

Professional co-conspirator to Daddy's dastardly deeds? I didn't know that was a profession :o

[fbgweezer]

Professional co-conspirator to Daddy's dastardly deeds? I didn't know that was a profession :o

I don't know about profession but she certainly has appeared to make it her life's work. :D

[socaldiva]

I don't know about profession but she certainly has appeared to make it her life's work. :D

True & by her own admission she's greedy.

[Suzee10]

she is in her late 30's, living with her daddy, borrowing airfare, trying to sell a book about how her father murdered the mother of her brother and sister, and suspected by many to be a co-conspirator in the murders.

Exactly what field is she trying to establish herself in?


I agree with all of you guys. Arnell has become a moocher form he**. Maybe simpson thinks she will narc, maybe that is why he is still shelling out money. I am one of those that believe she is a co-conspirator.

[jotun]

wukong
i and some others already have the book. it was on ebay and many other sites. free.
thanks
martin II

Martin,

I hear the free LEAKED version of the book is a runaway BEST UN-SELLER!!!

jotun

[jotun]

I have been reading this bs book that Wukong provided and simpson goes on and on about how bad on drugs Nicole was, as bad as Faye, but when she was murdered she had no trace of drugs in her body at all. Why does he keep telling such outrageous lies that can be proved that he is a liar? Has he forgotten the medical examiner's report? Are we supposed to believe him and just forget all of the reports that proves he is lying? This guy is a joke.


Link please!!!
Don't remember a tox report in court.Thought both sides agreed so as not to trash the victims.??? After the trial was a report on tv, that both victims had cocaine and the defendant a trace of marawana[sp].

IMO

jotun

[jotun]

Hey Suzee,

Well, OJ did say this book was complete fiction. What's funny is that he doesn't even realize his wife, who he lives with, is 5 months pregnant but he knows Nicole was on drugs when he admitted to not seeing much of her in some time leading up to the murders.



What O.J said is 1 chapter is complete fiction.'The Night in Question'
He says WONDER not knows:

O.J. Book
"Nicole had been associating with hookers,drug-dealers & unsavory characters from way back.I also began to WONDER WHETHER she was doing drugs"

IMO

jotun

[socaldiva]

Link please!!!
Don't remember a tox report in court.Thought both sides agreed so as not to trash the victims.??? After the trial was a report on tv, that both victims had cocaine and the defendant a trace of marawana[sp].

IMO

jotun

How about you providing us with a link as to "both victims having cocaine in their systems".

[jotun]

Hi Martin,

I have NO DOUBT that she was trying to make money. It is just so disappointing to see Sydney and Justins family trying to make money off of their mother's murder.

ALL-IMO
The way I understood it.This book was to be O.J.& Nicole-A Love Story.All 4 kids agreed to it.It wasn't about murder until Fenjves sprung it on O.J. after the other chapters were completed.
All who insisted this was a murder book from it's inception were simply wrong.
Was only the hook by the publisher to sell it.Regan DECIEVED everyone and it blew-up in her face. Fenjves[ghostwriter]
said "Regan said this is to be a confession." O.J.said" I have NOTHING TO CONFESS."

IMO

jotun

[socaldiva]

*snip*
All 4 kids agreed to it.

Who cares if Jason & Arnelle agreed to it? It wasn't about their Mother.
As for Sydney & Justin, I doubt they felt they had a choice in the matter.

[tazzybaby]

ALL-IMO
The way I understood it.This book was to be O.J.& Nicole-A Love Story.All 4 kids agreed to it.It wasn't about murder until Fenjves sprung it on O.J. after the other chapters were completed.
All who insisted this was a murder book from it's inception were simply wrong.
Was only the hook by the publisher to sell it.Regan DECIEVED everyone and it blew-up in her face. Fenjves[ghostwriter]
said "Regan said this is to be a confession." O.J.said" I have NOTHING TO CONFESS."

IMO

jotun

Funny. The way I understood it was that OJ signed up for it from the beginning. Did you read the links regarding his signature on the contract? He also signed up for the title. Any flack he is getting from this is his own fault for EVER doing it anyways.

Then all of a sudden his child gets on the stand and says that SHE took it to OJ. Hmmm....which is it? Seems like OJ nor his child have very good reputations as to telling the truth.

The only people deceiving anyone are the Simpsons. Well, and maybe a lawyer or two.

[tazzybaby]

Who cares if Jason & Arnelle agreed to it? It wasn't about their Mother.
As for Sydney & Justin, I doubt they felt they had a choice in the matter.


I totally agree!!

And, once Sydney and Justin didn't want to do it....it should have been dropped.

Poor Sydney and Justin. Their lives would have been so different had their mother not been taken away from them.

:rose:

[martin II]

Funny. The way I understood it was that OJ signed up for it from the beginning. Did you read the links regarding his signature on the contract? He also signed up for the title. Any flack he is getting from this is his own fault for EVER doing it anyways.

Then all of a sudden his child gets on the stand and says that SHE took it to OJ. Hmmm....which is it? Seems like OJ nor his child have very good reputations as to telling the truth.

The only people deceiving anyone are the Simpsons. Well, and maybe a lawyer or two.

i believe that oj did not mind telling his Nicole and i story in the book. I think that the HOOK chapter and the title was what Regan put into the project to ensure sales interest.
imo
martin II

[tazzybaby]

i believe that oj did not mind telling his Nicole and i story in the book. I think that the HOOK chapter and the title was what Regan put into the project to ensure sales interest.
imo
martin II


You don't have anything to show that as the case. OJ signed the contract and represented that he himself with the help of a writer wrote the book. It didn't say that he wrote portions of the book.

OJ agreed to it all. He even said he KNEW it was BLOOD MONEY.

[martin II]

You don't have anything to show that as the case. OJ signed the contract and represented that he himself with the help of a writer wrote the book. It didn't say that he wrote portions of the book.

OJ agreed to it all. He even said he KNEW it was BLOOD MONEY.

tazzy hi
i believe that every detail of what would be in the book was decided before the contract was signed by everyone.
I do believe that a book by oj about his life with nicole would not have the SHOCK appeal as the IF I DID IT title and the hypothetical chapter and that Regan Books put this in to give the book sales interest.

imo
martin II

[fbgweezer]

i believe that oj did not mind telling his Nicole and i story in the book. I think that the HOOK chapter and the title was what Regan put into the project to ensure sales interest.
imo
martin II

there is no Nicole and i story for him to tell -- what was he going to say? I needed to control her, I cheated on her, I beat her, I tormented her, I murdered her. We found all of that out at the trials. imo

I found it to be very interesting that it was orenthal's friend that supposedly approached arnelle with the idea. I don't buy it. First, very strange that it was orenthal's 'friend' and second why would he think he could approach arnelle? Seems like those of us who have expressed our suspicions as they relate to arnelle may not be the only ones who think she is capable of being a co-conspirator. imo

[martin II]

i believe that the book with the exception of the one hypothetical chapter IS THE NICOLE AND I STORY as told by OJ.

IMO
MARTIN ii

[tazzybaby]

i believe that the book with the exception of the one hypothetical chapter IS THE NICOLE AND I STORY as told by OJ.

IMO
MARTIN ii


Hi Martin,

What makes you believe that?

[tazzybaby]

tazzy hi
i believe that every detail of what would be in the book was decided before the contract was signed by everyone.
I do believe that a book by oj about his life with nicole would not have the SHOCK appeal as the IF I DID IT title and the hypothetical chapter and that Regan Books put this in to give the book sales interest.

imo
martin II


I agree that every detail was decided before OJ signed also. That means that he went into the project with his eyes wide open. Like I said, he admitted that he knew it was blood money. The judge has already ruled that LBA was nothing more than set up to funnell money to OJ. Of course, we knew that before the judge made it legal.

This was all about OJ making money. So sad for Justin and Sydney.

[fbgweezer]

i believe that the book with the exception of the one hypothetical chapter IS THE NICOLE AND I STORY as told by OJ.

IMO
MARTIN ii

if you read the book, then you know that orenthal tried to slant the book to make himself look good. Didn't happen. I believe the only part of the book that was NOT hypothetical was the chapter where he described murdering Nicole and Ron. The rest of the book was him dissing and bashing the victims. imo

[fbgweezer]

I agree that every detail was decided before OJ signed also. That means that he went into the project with his eyes wide open. Like I said, he admitted that he knew it was blood money. The judge has already ruled that LBA was nothing more than set up to funnell money to OJ. Of course, we knew that before the judge made it legal.

This was all about OJ making money. So sad for Justin and Sydney.

here's the really sad part to me: the orenthal apologists take as truth orenthal's dissing and bashing of Nicole as truth but need to believe the one chapter that is contradicted by evidence is 'hypothetical' -- imo

I am waiting to see if orenthal funneling the HC money through LBA into his homestead has jeopardized the homestead.

[socaldiva]

here's the really sad part to me: the orenthal apologists take as truth orenthal's dissing and bashing of Nicole as truth but need to believe the one chapter that is contradicted by evidence is 'hypothetical' -- imo

I am waiting to see if orenthal funneling the HC money through LBA into his homestead has jeopardized the homestead.

:beer: :beer: :beer:

[martin II]

if you read the book, then you know that orenthal tried to slant the book to make himself look good. Didn't happen. I believe the only part of the book that was NOT hypothetical was the chapter where he described murdering Nicole and Ron. The rest of the book was him dissing and bashing the victims. imo

Since no one here was present, it is only possible for people to accept the parts of the story that pleases them and reject all other.
imo
martin II

[martin II]

here's the really sad part to me: the orenthal apologists take as truth orenthal's dissing and bashing of Nicole as truth but need to believe the one chapter that is contradicted by evidence is 'hypothetical' -- imo

I am waiting to see if orenthal funneling the HC money through LBA into his homestead has jeopardized the homestead.

I have not read any court decision stating that the money payed Oj by LBA
was illegal funds. Have you?

martin II

[fbgweezer]

I have not read any court decision stating that the money payed Oj by LBA
was illegal funds. Have you?

martin II

I haven't said the money was 'illegal' so I'm not sure what you are asking.

[fbgweezer]

Since no one here was present, it is only possible for people to accept the parts of the story that pleases them and reject all other.
imo
martin II

you crack me up! you continually post that ONLY the jury are the 'tryers' of fact YET you discount statements by at least two of the criminal trial jurors who have stated that 'of course the gloves fit'.....LOL

guess some people do only accept the parts of a story that pleases them..........imo

[martin II]

I haven't said the money was 'illegal' so I'm not sure what you are asking.

For Oj to have some problem with his homestead i would assume you are suggesting that the money paid to oj would in some way impack on his homestead. If this is not what you suggest, then what exactly are you suggesting when you mentioned his homestead.
martin II

your post.

"I am waiting to see if orenthal funneling the HC money through LBA into his homestead has jeopardized the homestead."

[fbgweezer]

For Oj to have some problem with his homestead i would assume you are suggesting that the money paid to oj would in some way impack on his homestead. If this is not what you suggest, then what exactly are you suggesting when you mentioned his homestead.
martin II

your post.

"I am waiting to see if orenthal funneling the HC money through LBA into his homestead has jeopardized the homestead."

At one point, I was doing some research into the Florida Homestead Law and remember reading that the home owner could jeopardize the Homestead Exemption under certain circumstances -- IIRC, one of those instances is funneling money into the homestead. Gosh, I wish I were smarter about this stuff but I'm guessing if there is anything to it, it won't take long for someone smarter than me to figure it out -- if they haven't already.

[martin II]

you crack me up! you continually post that ONLY the jury are the 'tryers' of fact YET you discount statements by at least two of the criminal trial jurors who have stated that 'of course the gloves fit'.....LOL

guess some people do only accept the parts of a story that pleases them..........imo

weezer

what you may be failing to understand is that different jurors may have different opinions about the importance of specific pieces of evidence and testimony presented in the trial.

What you cannot ignore is that all 12 decided that the prosecution did not prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt and ALL declared that OJ SIMPSON was not guilty of the crimes he was charged with. He then went home.

martin II

[martin II]

At one point, I was doing some research into the Florida Homestead Law and remember reading that the home owner could jeopardize the Homestead Exemption under certain circumstances -- IIRC, one of those instances is funneling money into the homestead. Gosh, I wish I were smarter about this stuff but I'm guessing if there is anything to it, it won't take long for someone smarter than me to figure it out -- if they haven't already.

oh
maby this idea was pulled out of the sky without any information that it related to oj in any way. Actually how do you know that oj put any of this money into his homestead. No one really knows what he did with that money.
imo
martin II

[fbgweezer]

oh
maby this idea was pulled out of the sky without any information that it related to oj in any way. Actually how do you know that oj put any of this money into his homestead. No one really knows what he did with that money.
imo
martin II

'mayby' it was but as much as you and orenthal would like to think that he is beyond any law -- doesn't make it a fact. imo

Read the LBA bankruptcy papers; i.e., arnelle's deposition.

[fbgweezer]

weezer

what you may be failing to understand is that different jurors may have different opinions about the importance of specific pieces of evidence and testimony presented in the trial.

What you cannot ignore is that all 12 decided that the prosecution did not prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt and ALL declared that OJ SIMPSON was not guilty of the crimes he was charged with. He then went home.

martin II

oh, I completely understand there are different opinions. I just find it laughable that you throw the criminal jurors up as the 'tryers' of fact and the only ones that could judge the evidence because they were the only ones that mattered. I am simply posting what at least two of the juros have said about the gloves fitting.

Yes, all of the criminal jurors declared orenthal not guilty BUT all of the civil jurors declared him responsible for the deaths of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman. He then ran to Florida.

[martin II]

Hi Martin,

What makes you believe that?

i believe that these chapters had to be dictated by oj as i don't believe anyone else would know those details.
I believe the HOOK chapter was required by Regan and made up by oj and the ghost writer to give the book something to make the book sell.


what i am saying is that the IF I DID IT will be taken by most as just a hook title to get consumer interest. It may be seen by those that think they know oj was gilty as a opportunity to say SEE HE CONFESSED.
I don't think Oj or Regan gave a hot dog about what PEOPLE thought about the title or the hook chapter as long as they baught the book. That is the name of the game.imo


martin II

[tvdinner]

i believe that these chapters had to be dictated by oj as i don't believe anyone else would know those details.
I believe the HOOK chapter was required by Regan and made up by oj and the ghost writer to give the book something to make the book sell.


what i am saying is that the IF I DID IT will be taken by most as just a hook title to get consumer interest. It may be seen by those that think they know oj was gilty as a opportunity to say SEE HE CONFESSED.
I don't think Oj or Regan gave a hot dog about what PEOPLE thought about the title or the hook chapter as long as they baught the book. That is the name of the game.imo
martin III agree 100% with you martin. Writing that book was motivated by pure greed because if he's doing as well as some people on this forum say he is then writing the book was unnecessary from a financial standpoint.

[fbgweezer]

[/b]I agree 100% with you martin. Writing that book was motivated by pure greed because if he's doing as well as some people on this forum say he is then writing the book was unnecessary from a financial standpoint.

I was reading about the psychology of the interrogation and it said something to the effect that often times the suspect will use the 'hypothetical' to confess. I believe that is what orenthal did in this book. imo

[martin II]

oh, I completely understand there are different opinions. I just find it laughable that you throw the criminal jurors up as the 'tryers' of fact and the only ones that could judge the evidence because they were the only ones that mattered. I am simply posting what at least two of the juros have said about the gloves fitting.

Yes, all of the criminal jurors declared orenthal not guilty BUT all of the civil jurors declared him responsible for the deaths of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman. He then ran to Florida.

The great state of florida believes that it is beneficial for them and peoiple to move to their state when they have certain financial problems. OJ and many more take advantage of these laws all the time. It would not be smart if he had not.

PS
The jury WERE the tryers of fact and based on all they heard, they did not agree with the prosecution.
We know what the civil trial was about so i see no value in going over that
as it has been said that that outcome was set when the criminal jury verdict was read.

imo
martin II

[fbgweezer]

The great state of florida believes that it is beneficial for them and peoiple to move to their state when they have certain financial problems. OJ and many more take advantage of these laws all the time. It would not be smart if he had not.

PS
The jury WERE the tryers of fact and based on all they heard, they did not agree with the prosecution.
We know what the civil trial was about so i see no value in going over that
as it has been said that that outcome was set when the criminal jury verdict was read.

imo
martin II

I was simply responding to your post: "Originally Posted by martin II
Since no one here was present, it is only possible for people to accept the parts of the story that pleases them and reject all other.
imo
martin II"

Looks like your one of those folks. imo

[fbgweezer]

[QUOTE=martin II;8901076]The great state of florida believes that it is beneficial for them and peoiple to move to their state when they have certain financial problems. OJ and many more take advantage of these laws all the time. It would not be smart if he had not. . . *Snipped*

Hey, I'm hoping all murderers go to Florida -- that would be great for the rest of us! :tongue:

[martin II]

I was simply responding to your post: "Originally Posted by martin II
Since no one here was present, it is only possible for people to accept the parts of the story that pleases them and reject all other.
imo
martin II"

Looks like your one of those folks. imo


i was talking about the contents of the book.i have only read the first part of the book so i don't know what is in all of the book. But the part about Nicole asking for those earings because of what M ALLEN gave his girl/wife sounds reasonable to me.

imo
martin II

[martin II]

[QUOTE=martin II;8901076]The great state of florida believes that it is beneficial for them and peoiple to move to their state when they have certain financial problems. OJ and many more take advantage of these laws all the time. It would not be smart if he had not. . . *Snipped*

Hey, I'm hoping all murderers go to Florida -- that would be great for the rest of us! :tongue:

there may be some where you are now.

martin II

[fbgweezer]

i was talking about the contents of the book.i have only read the first part of the book so i don't know what is in all of the book. But the part about Nicole asking for those earings because of what M ALLEN gave his girl/wife sounds reasonable to me.

imo
martin II

are you sure you read that part in the book? Because I remember it saying that she was told he'd bought earrings (turned out they were for someone else) and she asked him about them. :confused:

[tazzybaby]

i believe that these chapters had to be dictated by oj as i don't believe anyone else would know those details.
I believe the HOOK chapter was required by Regan and made up by oj and the ghost writer to give the book something to make the book sell.


what i am saying is that the IF I DID IT will be taken by most as just a hook title to get consumer interest. It may be seen by those that think they know oj was gilty as a opportunity to say SEE HE CONFESSED.
I don't think Oj or Regan gave a hot dog about what PEOPLE thought about the title or the hook chapter as long as they baught the book. That is the name of the game.imo


martin II


But, what makes you think all of that?

[Kate Sachel]

We know what the civil trial was about so i see no value in going over that
as it has been said that that outcome was set when the criminal jury verdict was read.

imo
martin II

Generally people without interest in the truth claim that an alleged murder's testimony would be of no value in discussion.

Kate

[martin II]

are you sure you read that part in the book? Because I remember it saying that she was told he'd bought earrings (turned out they were for someone else) and she asked him about them. :confused:


i stoped when she asked him about the earings in the bed and a fight started. so you may be correct.
martin II

[tvdinner]

I was reading about the psychology of the interrogation and it said something to the effect that often times the suspect will use the 'hypothetical' to confess. I believe that is what orenthal did in this book. imoMy opinion also, weezer. :)

[martin II]

" psychology of the interrogation"

i have read things about the subject you speak of where people admit to things they never did because they have been told by LE,to just tell us what we want to hear and you can go HOME.
IMO
MARTIN ii

[socaldiva]

" psychology of the interrogation"

i have read things about the subject you speak of where people admit to things they never did because they have been told by LE,to just tell us what we want to hear and you can go HOME.
IMO
MARTIN ii

Obviously this wasn't the case with Orenthal ;)

[jotun]

True & by her own admission she's greedy.

ALL---IMO
Seems Arnelle was almost as greedy as goldman.All to willing to take advantage of O.J. and the kids loss.They didn't even want to talk about it at first.But all his kids eventually were willing to exploit and ride the golden goose O.J.Just as the media and some of the players do. O.J.didn't want to do the book,but gave in so his kids could "make alot of money because we all knew the book would sell"
32 & 4 FINAL INSULT???

jotun

[tvdinner]

ALL---IMO
Seems Arnelle was almost as greedy as goldman.All to willing to take advantage of O.J. and the kids loss.They didn't even want to talk about it at first.But all his kids eventually were willing to exploit and ride the golden goose O.J.Just as the media and some of the players do. O.J.didn't want to do the book,but gave in so his kids could "make alot of money because we all knew the book would sell"
32 & 4 FINAL INSULT???

jotunDoes OJ Simpson ever take responsibility for anything? While I agree that Arnelle is greedy I don't recall it being reported that anyone held a gun to OJ Simpson's head and made him participate in this book deal.

[socaldiva]

ALL---IMO
Seems Arnelle was almost as greedy as goldman.All to willing to take advantage of O.J. and the kids loss.They didn't even want to talk about it at first.But all his kids eventually were willing to exploit and ride the golden goose O.J.Just as the media and some of the players do. O.J.didn't want to do the book,but gave in so his kids could "make alot of money because we all knew the book would sell"
32 & 4 FINAL INSULT???

jotun

"Arnelle was almost as greedy as Goldman"? No, Arenelle didn't lose a son or a loved one in the mix. She was just greedy to be greedy imo

[jotun]

Does OJ Simpson ever take responsibility for anything?

ALL---IMO

Yes he does.
O.J.said in the AP interview and maybe the radio interview:
"I'm taking the HEAT for this and I
DESERVE IT"...

jotun

[socaldiva]

ALL---IMO

Yes he does.
O.J.said in the AP interview and maybe the radio interview:
"I'm taking the HEAT for this and I
DESERVE IT"...

jotun


Uh....unless it's for double murder, it doesn't count, imo

[tvdinner]

ALL---IMO

Yes he does.
O.J.said in the AP interview and maybe the radio interview:
"I'm taking the HEAT for this and I
DESERVE IT"...

jotunAre HEAT and BLAME the same thing? I'm not sure about that.

[tvdinner]

Uh....unless it's for double murder, it doesn't count, imo:beer: :beer:

[martin II]

Does OJ Simpson ever take responsibility for anything? While I agree that Arnelle is greedy I don't recall it being reported that anyone held a gun to OJ Simpson's head and made him participate in this book deal.

tv

i think the book was a bad idea as i have previously stated.
Oj said it was blood money. he said he did it for the money. He also said he was surprised that they (hc) would pay him this money for signing his name.

I do think that he may have done it for a few reasons.
1. It was one of a very few opportunities he has available to make good
money to support his family and himself.
2. He has said everyone made money off of him.media ,talking heads etc
3. It was a way for him to make some money and set his children up for
long term income from the royalties from the book.

imo
martin II

[martin II]

Are HEAT and BLAME the same thing? I'm not sure about that.

yes
martin II

[martin II]

Does OJ Simpson ever take responsibility for anything? While I agree that Arnelle is greedy I don't recall it being reported that anyone held a gun to OJ Simpson's head and made him participate in this book deal.

i still believe that it would have been better idea if the GREEDY lawyers had found a way for a agreement to be made bewteen oj and Fred when HC first announced the book. But it seems that Mr Goldmans lawyers were not open to this idea. imo
martin II

[martin II]

in the transcript i have of the book i am loosing some sentances/paragraphs
from one page to the next. Anyone else having this problem?

martin II

[martin II]

in the transcript i have of the book i am loosing some sentances/paragraphs
from one page to the next. Anyone else having this problem?

martin II

correctionh
i corrected the problem

martin II

[martin II]

are you sure you read that part in the book? Because I remember it saying that she was told he'd bought earrings (turned out they were for someone else) and she asked him about them. :confused:

wezer

where in the book did you read, WHAT PAGE??

MARTIN ii

(turned out they were for someone else) and she asked him about them. :confused:[/QUOTE]

[socaldiva]

are you sure you read that part in the book? Because I remember it saying that she was told he'd bought earrings (turned out they were for someone else) and she asked him about them. :confused:

I seem to remember what you remember.....

[fbgweezer]

I seem to remember what you remember.....

isn't that the reason he gave for beating her?

[socaldiva]

isn't that the reason he gave for beating her?

That sounds familiar as well. I think there was an altercation & he's now spun another version of it in his "if I did it" book, IIRC.

[Kate Sachel]

In the book, OJ claims that Nicole admired Kathryn' earrings and was jealous of them. According to OJ, Kathryn told Nicole that OJ had bought the same pair and Nicole asked him where they were. According to OJ, he never bought the earrings and Nicole assumed that he did but gave them to someone else and a fight broke out.

That, of course, is the gospel according to OJ.

In the real world, multiple people stated that OJ had bought diamond earrings identical to Kathryn's and gave them to Tawny Kitean who was his mistress at the time.

Kate

[Kate Sachel]

i still believe that it would have been better idea if the GREEDY lawyers had found a way for a agreement to be made bewteen oj and Fred when HC first announced the book. But it seems that Mr Goldmans lawyers were not open to this idea. imo
martin II

I can't imagine being willing to "agree" on anything with the person responsible for murdering my child.

As a matter of fact, agreeing on a settlement like that would be, in my eyes, a showing that Fred Goldman may only be after money. His willingness however to fight until the bitter end to punish OJ Simpson financially and emotionally tells me that he is simply interested only in pursuing justice and punishment for his son's killer.

Kate

[fbgweezer]

In the book, OJ claims that Nicole admired Kathryn' earrings and was jealous of them. According to OJ, Kathryn told Nicole that OJ had bought the same pair and Nicole asked him where they were. According to OJ, he never bought the earrings and Nicole assumed that he did but gave them to someone else and a fight broke out.

That, of course, is the gospel according to OJ.

In the real world, multiple people stated that OJ had bought diamond earrings identical to Kathryn's and gave them to Tawny Kitean who was his mistress at the time.

Kate

thanks Kate -- that's pretty much what I remembered.

[martin II]

So you did not read this in the book.

My point was how easy it was for a fight to happen because Nicole thought oj had baught some diamond earings. She did not know this for a fact that night. just what her friend told/suggested he had baught.
The other issue is that the maid claimed that Nicole came to her room and slapped her face as a result. What was that about?

imo
martinII

[martin II]

Regardless of what anyone says, Mr Goldman seems to have accomplished what he was after all the time. The title to the book and the potential
money he will receives from it for himself.
OJ had been paid already.
If the ruling stays as it is the people that loose are the children.

Bigger enemies than oj and Mr Goldman have found ways to make financial agreements for the benefit of both.

imo
martin II

[fbgweezer]

Regardless of what anyone says, Mr Goldman seems to have accomplished what he was after all the time. The title to the book and the potential
money he will receives from it for himself.
OJ had been paid already.
If the ruling stays as it is the people that loose are the children.

Bigger enemies than oj and Mr Goldman have found ways to make financial agreements for the benefit of both.

imo
martin II

don't you think the children had already lost when the murderer and his co-conspirator began on their quest to write the book?

[fbgweezer]

So you did not read this in the book.

My point was how easy it was for a fight to happen because Nicole thought oj had baught some diamond earings. She did not know this for a fact that night. just what her friend told/suggested he had baught.
The other issue is that the maid claimed that Nicole came to her room and slapped her face as a result. What was that about?

imo
martinII

why are saying I did not read it in the book?

you are assuming that orenthal was telling the truth when he said he didn't buy earrings even though there is now evidence to contradict his protestation. What makes you think she did not know it for a fact?

[Kate Sachel]

So you did not read this in the book.

My point was how easy it was for a fight to happen because Nicole thought oj had baught some diamond earings. She did not know this for a fact that night. just what her friend told/suggested he had baught.
The other issue is that the maid claimed that Nicole came to her room and slapped her face as a result. What was that about?

imo
martinII

We have had a lengthy discussion regarding this some time ago, but I will make a reminder for you here that it was not on that evening that Nicole slapped the maid. That incident was years later.

Kate

[Kate Sachel]

don't you think the children had already lost when the murderer and his co-conspirator began on their quest to write the book?

Agreed, wonderful point.

Kate

[Suzee10]

Link please!!!
Don't remember a tox report in court.Thought both sides agreed so as not to trash the victims.??? After the trial was a report on tv, that both victims had cocaine and the defendant a trace of marawana[sp].

IMO

jotun



No need for a link, if there had been the drugs in her body simpson and the defense would have been screaming the fact.

[Suzee10]

Link please!!!
Don't remember a tox report in court.Thought both sides agreed so as not to trash the victims.??? After the trial was a report on tv, that both victims had cocaine and the defendant a trace of marawana[sp].

IMO

jotun


Provide a link to the report they did have drugs in their body.

[martin II]

why are saying I did not read it in the book?

you are assuming that orenthal was telling the truth when he said he didn't buy earrings even though there is now evidence to contradict his protestation. What makes you think she did not know it for a fact?

all i asked in what page did you read this about oj buying earings and giving them to another woman as you stated in your post.. If you have the page from the book ,you can give it. iF not you may not have the page.imo
martin II

[martin II]

From reading the book it does not seem that it was oj doing the stalking.
imo

martin II

[socaldiva]

From reading the book it does not seem that it was oj doing the stalking.
imo

martin II

That's because Orenthal wrote it & he lies ;)

[Kate Sachel]

From reading the book it does not seem that it was oj doing the stalking.
imo

martin II

Considering the fact that you had been screaming from the rooftops that the book was entirely fiction I'd say your opinion from reading the book means zilch.

Kate

[martin II]

jotun

Previously i had understood that Bret Cantor was basically a known/friend of Ron Goldmans. Oj indicates that he was a friend/associate of Nicole or at least was in her friendship group. imo
very odd. both killed in a simular manner.
martin II

[martin II]

Funny. The way I understood it was that OJ signed up for it from the beginning. Did you read the links regarding his signature on the contract? He also signed up for the title. Any flack he is getting from this is his own fault for EVER doing it anyways.

Then all of a sudden his child gets on the stand and says that SHE took it to OJ. Hmmm....which is it? Seems like OJ nor his child have very good reputations as to telling the truth.

The only people deceiving anyone are the Simpsons. Well, and maybe a lawyer or two.

tazzy hi
remember it was Regan that brought Funjeves into the deal to add spice and the hook( the murder chapter) that she desired to be in the book. Oj commented that fujenvis knew so much about what happened he wondered
if he was the killer.imo
martin II

[fbgweezer]

tazzy hi
remember it was Regan that brought Funjeves into the deal to add spice and the hook( the murder chapter) that she desired to be in the book. Oj commented that fujenvis knew so much about what happened he wondered
if he was the killer.imo
martin II

someone had to help write the confession -- orenthal could misspell 'hi'. imo

So I read the 118 pages and I'm sorry but orenthal truly is a sociopath........my Gawd! imo

[martin II]

all i asked in what page did you read this about oj buying earings and giving them to another woman as you stated in your post.. If you have the page from the book ,you can give it. iF not you may not have the page.imo
martin II

weezer
did you find the page in the book where you claim oj baught the earings and gave them to some woman???


martin II

[martin II]

someone had to help write the confession -- orenthal could misspell 'hi'. imo

So I read the 118 pages and I'm sorry but orenthal truly is a sociopath........my Gawd! imo

there were some new details that came out in the book that were interesting.
I never knew Nicole was making as many trips to Rockingham and other places after she moved to Greta Green and to Bundy.
martin II

[martin II]

i realized today that the FREE book is STILL available for download on several sites on the net. It seems that the judges ruling has not stopped this at all.

imo
martin II

[socaldiva]

there were some new details that came out in the book that were interesting.
I never knew Nicole was making as many trips to Rockingham and other places after she moved to Greta Green and to Bundy.
martin II

Again, this is Orenthal's version, so it might appear "new" as he probably made it up.:tongue: