Predictions, Necklace, Songs , GA Murders, Ret Account. email & Other Ideas

[Babes]

How did Tara get a hold of MH's emails?
How did she get a hold of the email's password when MH doesnt even want to be with her?
When did she check his emails?
Where did she check his emails?
Was the emails only forwarded to her email? Then who forwarded it?

Thanks for the answers if you have any..

[concernedperson]

Maybe he is one of those people who use the same passcode and user name over and over. She would know who the provider is as I am sure she got emails from him at one time or another.

I check my emails from other computers all the time.

[Bnutty]

MH gave Tara his email password a long time ago when he had only been in the military for a little while. If I remember correctly, he gave her his password so that she could sort thru the junk mail since he wasn't able to check his email very often. At that time if the email account was too full, he could no longer receive emails. However when the two of them broke up he never changed his password.

[concernedperson]

Goes along with what I posted. Thanks.

[Moms4Justice]

I'm lost........where did the email subject come up?
Where is this info? From LE or family & friends?

[Babes]

Originally posted by Bnutty
MH gave Tara his email password a long time ago when he had only been in the military for a little while. If I remember correctly, he gave her his password so that she could sort thru the junk mail since he wasn't able to check his email very often. At that time if the email account was too full, he could no longer receive emails. However when the two of them broke up he never changed his password.

Thanks

If this is true then Tara could witness some emails that she's not really supposed to read....

[HonestInjun]

Does anyone have information regarding Tara's ebay account, i.e. whether she shared the account with anyone, whether it had any activity since October, 2005, etc.? And if she did share it, with whom?

[BroadwayJoe]

I was curious about your post. I've checked several profiles on ebay and I have a question. I believe Tara was born in Nov. Do you remember what day and year??

Originally posted by HonestInjun
Does anyone have information regarding Tara's ebay account, i.e. whether she shared the account with anyone, whether it had any activity since October, 2005, etc.? And if she did share it, with whom?

[HonestInjun]

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe
I was curious about your post. I've checked several profiles on ebay and I have a question. I believe Tara was born in Nov. Do you remember what day and year??



I think her birthday is November 14th, but I will check this and come back and correct it if I am off a day or two. I think this is correct though. Did you learn anything? Just curious.

[BroadwayJoe]

I'd rather not discuss yet!! Still checking.


Originally posted by HonestInjun


I think her birthday is November 14th, but I will check this and come back and correct it if I am off a day or two. I think this is correct though. Did you learn anything? Just curious.

[HonestInjun]

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe
I'd rather not discuss yet!! Still checking.




It's rare for an ebay account to list the DOB for a user, so that's why I asked. They could list it in the "about me" portion, but I just wondered why they would. No offense, Joe, just wondering if this might hold a clue.

[BroadwayJoe]

Do you know long Tara has been an ebay member?

That would help me narrow something down.

[HonestInjun]

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe
Do you know long Tara has been an ebay member?

That would help me narrow something down.

At least 4 or 5 years. That's my best guess, and I think that's pretty close. Does that help?

[BroadwayJoe]

Yup!! Thanks man!

[BroadwayJoe]

Hey, catch up with you tomorrow, man!

Need to hit the old sack-a-roo!!! Got a rough day tomorrow. Gonna tee off at ten so must be alert!!

[TuscanDreams]

Dang, I have to go back to work today and can't wait to read your follow up on this!

Are you thinking that maybe she bought or sold something on the bay that started a friendship that ended badly? As in, she purchased something from a seller that led to the friendship?

[HonestInjun]

Originally posted by TuscanDreams
Dang, I have to go back to work today and can't wait to read your follow up on this!

Are you thinking that maybe she bought or sold something on the bay that started a friendship that ended badly? As in, she purchased something from a seller that led to the friendship?

At this point I suppose anything is possible. I was hoping to get more information on the ebay account, just to check it out and see if anything could be learned from it. It may not be important at all.

[luvmy2labpups]

FW I think this needs a thread of its own. Some have posted on another thread that Tara took money out of her retirement account before she disappeared. Can anybody clarify when this was done, how much was taken out and was this money ever accounted for?

[fsbiii]

I've heard it was a withdrawal of under $10,000 and it wasn't long before 10/22/05, but I can't verify that. Someone closer to the facts would have to substantiate this information, and we know that won't happen (if it's true).

I see no reason Tara would want/need/have to borrow against any retirement money based on her apparent standard of living, income, and lifestyle. Then again, perception is often misperception.

If this is true, Tara must've had a separate retirement account from the basic one most teachers have by design (TRS). Teachers Retirement System of Georgia has a rule:

"While you are employed in a TRS covered position, as stated in Georgia law, you cannot make withdrawals or borrow funds from your account. If you terminate your TRS covered employment you may apply for a refund of contributions and interest. However, you are not eligible for a refund after you accept other TRS covered employment."

http://www.trsga.com/shared/subPage.asp?source=edu&targetAudience=1&Section=54

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by fsbiii
I've heard it was a withdrawal of under $10,000 and it wasn't long before 10/22/05, but I can't verify that. Someone closer to the facts would have to substantiate this information, and we know that won't happen (if it's true).


You've "heard" ? If you "heard" this somewhere, you should be able to ascertain truth or validity to it by going directly back to your source. Unless, of course, you conveniently don't remember where you "heard" it from. If you can't go back to your "source" and get the facts, then it's nothing more than rumor.

If you are able to get the facts, and she did indeed withdraw funds, the individual supplying this informaton to you appears to have broken several confidentiality and/or privacy laws.

Just for the reasons stated above, IMO, we'll never know if it was true or not. As usual.

[fsbiii]

From the sting of your post and the usual veiled legal threats with no basis, I assume the information is probably accurate.

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe


You've "heard" ? If you "heard" this somewhere, you should be able to ascertain truth or validity to it by going directly back to your source. Unless, of course, you conveniently don't remember where you "heard" it from. If you can't go back to your "source" and get the facts, then it's nothing more than rumor.

If you are able to get the facts, and she did indeed withdraw funds, the individual supplying this informaton to you appears to have broken several confidentiality and/or privacy laws.

Just for the reasons stated above, IMO, we'll never know if it was true or not. As usual.

[PNut]

Originally posted by fsbiii
From the sting of your post and the usual veiled legal threats with no basis, I assume the information is probably accurate.




:lol:

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by fsbiii
From the sting of your post and the usual veiled legal threats with no basis, I assume the information is probably accurate.


I have no idea if it's accurate or not. You are the one who posted the information. So you tell me, is it accurate info, or just hearsay?

[PNut]

Originally posted by readmylips


that looks like a good assessment to me.

With this group, it's always easy to see when you're too close to the truth. ;)

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by PNut



:lol:
I agree PNut. Fsbiii not revealing his "source" is hilarious.

[crytheblues]

Another tactic, right??

Due to the Financial Privacy Act, I really doubt you or anyone else would be given this type of information.

Good try, though!! Keep up the good investigative skills you have acquired. You could subsidize your day job or are you retired?

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by crytheblues
Another tactic, right??

Due to the Financial Privacy Act, I really doubt you or anyone else would be given this type of information.

Good try, though!! Keep up the good investigative skills you have acquired. You could subsidize your day job or are you retired?
With all due respect, Crytheblues, my day job is quite rewarding.

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by readmylips


ask her sister. you have a direct connection to her dont you?

while you are asking her ask her if anyone ever figured out why she withdrew money and maybe the speculation wont get too out of hand. there may be a very reasonable explanation.

So then you are fsbiii's source then? I deduct this from the fact that you weren't in this conversation before now. If you are the source, where did the info come from? I don't have direct connections to the sister. Sorry to disappoint you.

Let's see some proof or a link, then we can discuss this retirement topic. Without that, we're wasting time (again) discussing something that is rumor.

[crytheblues]

Sorry, BJ, my post was directed to Fsbiii.

BTW, if you feel this info is true, then you have knowledge of how the $10,000 was spent, right?

Where exactly did the money go, any hot trails?


Originally posted by BroadwayJoe

With all due respect, Crytheblues, my day job is quite rewarding.

[PNut]

Shoot BJ, if we only discussed cold hard FACTS - there'd be NO discussion. EVERY thing in this case is PURE speculation.

Why does a speculating discussion THIS topic seem to be so upsetting?

[luvmy2labpups]

BACK ON TOPIC! Thanks FSB, under 10,000.00 is no small amount to take out. Enough to pay a rent in cash for a year and then some right? Now if only we knew if this was a fact and if any of her paycheck was not being deposited, or if there were any other money that was taken out before her disappearance. I am sure if the GBI hasn't checked this out they will be.

[crytheblues]

Why in the world would this be upsetting, Bevie Ann, if indeed it is true and somehow could lead someone to Tara???

Is it really true or fiction??? Inquiring minds want to know.

Did Tara make a withdrawal or not? Is she on an extended cruise in the Virgin Islands?? Could she have possibly borrowed from her retirement to make a loan to a close friend??

Does anyone know anything about where this money has gone, if indeed, it was taken from her retirement??


Originally posted by PNut
Shoot BJ, if we only discussed cold hard FACTS - there'd be NO discussion. EVERY thing in this case is PURE speculation.

Why does a speculating discussion THIS topic seem to be so upsetting?

[PNut]

Luv - I'd guess, money trails were one of the FIRST things they checked out in Tara's case. Usually are. And maybe why some have said GBI thinks she's alive and well.

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by luvmy2labpups
BACK ON TOPIC! Thanks FSB, under 10,000.00 is no small amount to take out. Enough to pay a rent in cash for a year and then some right? Now if only we knew if this was a fact and if any of her paycheck was not being deposited, or if there were any other money that was taken out before her disappearance. I am sure if the GBI hasn't checked this out they will be.
Quite the contrary, labpups. I want to know if it's true. If it is, this case could take an amazing turn. Don't you agree??? Why wouldn't YOU, the "LINK QUEEN" want to know FOR SURE if it's true before warranting further discussion?

I think it's well within reason to ask for PROOF on something this serious. Wouldn't you agree? If not, I'd wonder WHY you wouldn't agree.
:shrug:

[luvmy2labpups]

Originally posted by PNut
Luv - I'd guess, money trails were one of the FIRST things they checked out in Tara's case. Usually are. And maybe why some have said GBI thinks she's alive and well. Could also be why they still have her as a MISSING person and say there is NO EVIDENCE OF FOUL PLAY. HMMMMMMMM

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by PNut
Luv - I'd guess, money trails were one of the FIRST things they checked out in Tara's case. Usually are. And maybe why some have said GBI thinks she's alive and well.
I don't think anyone but labpups thinks she's alive and well. And she's willing to latch on to questionable information and "sources" to make it fit.

Sad, very sad.

Meantime, Tara is still missing, right?

[PNut]

Originally posted by crytheblues
Why in the world would this be upsetting, Bevie Ann, if indeed it is true and somehow could lead someone to Tara???
*snip*


I'm sorry, who??:confused:

[crytheblues]

Originally posted by luvmy2labpups
I am sure if the GBI hasn't checked this out they will be.


Good deduction there, luvvy. Let's hope they have indeed checked this out!!!

[luvmy2labpups]

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe

Quite the contrary, labpups. I want to know if it's true. If it is, this case could take an amazing turn. Don't you agree??? Why wouldn't YOU, the "LINK QUEEN" want to know FOR SURE if it's true before warranting further discussion?

I think it's well within reason to ask for PROOF on something this serious. Wouldn't you agree? If not, I'd wonder WHY you wouldn't agree.
:shrug: I do believe the purpose of this thread is to get verification. If you don't wish to be a part of the attempt, you don't have to. I will continue along with this discussion as it seems to have brought out NEW information (atleast new to me) that is well worth exploring.

[luvmy2labpups]

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe

I don't think anyone but labpups thinks she's alive and well. And she's willing to latch on to questionable information and "sources" to make it fit.

Sad, very sad.

Meantime, Tara is still missing, right? Quite the contrary, there are MANY who think she is alive and well and if this info is true, I believe many more will be thinking the same thing. If true, I wonder why this information has been withheld.

[luvmy2labpups]

Originally posted by OliverTwist

They have.
:D

HMMMMM.....AND?

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by luvmy2labpups
Quite the contrary, there are MANY who think she is alive and well and if this info is true, I believe many more will be thinking the same thing. If true, I wonder why this information has been withheld.
But the fact remains, if fsbiii cannot back up what he "heard" with a credible source and/or a valid link to information, we must discount it as rumor.

Correct?

[cbcrime]

If Tara did remove money from her retirement. I sure GBI will have followed the money trail. Could she have used this money for tuition? I have no idea what the costs were at the school she was taking classes from.

Why in the world would this not be a topic for discussion? Everything is speculation because there are very few facts that have been released.

[luvmy2labpups]

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe

But the fact remains, if fsbiii cannot back up what he "heard" with a credible source and/or a valid link to information, we must discount it as rumor.

Correct? Not quite. The purpose of this thread is to discuss and bring forth anybody who may know of this so we can VERIFY it. One poster just posted that the GBI knows about this and has indeed checked into it, so there must be some validity if the GBI has or is looking into it RIGHT?

[PNut]

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe

But the fact remains, if fsbiii cannot back up what he "heard" with a credible source and/or a valid link to information, we must discount it as rumor.

Correct?


I agree with ya Joe, it would be nothing more than rumor. Do you not agree that 99% of the discussion on ANY board regarding Tara is 99% speculation/rumor?

The only LINKS that can be provided are of interviews/news items that involve her family or such - and even THEN what they have said is not to be taken at 100% truth/proof, no?

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by cbcrime
If Tara did remove money from her retirement. I sure GBI will have followed the money trail. Could she have used this money for tuition? I have no idea what the costs were at the school she was taking classes from.

Why in the world would this not be a topic for discussion? Everything is speculation because there are very few facts that have been released.
CB, I would LOVE for this to be a topic for discussion. Like I said, if this is accurate, it could change this case in many ways. HOWEVER, don't you think we need EVIDENCE THAT IT'S TRUE FIRST? After all, most all the other "regular" posters demand this at all times. It's simple enough for fsbiii to either provide a link or provide info regarding his source. I don't think that's too much to ask.

But I do agree with you, in that IF this is accurate info, she COULD have used it for any number of reasons, i.e. to pay school tuition (not cheap last time I checked), to pay off a debt like a furniture loan or a credit card, or some other purpose. Don't you agree that we need absolute FACTS before this goes further?

Regardless of what you believe, I would love to think Tara is alive and well somewhere.

[crytheblues]

Yes, CB, good topic for discussion.

Could she have also used this money to pay off credit cards, tuition, etc. What about a down payment on a new car?? Fsbii said he heard under $10,000. Does anyone know the exact amount??


Originally posted by cbcrime
If Tara did remove money from her retirement. I sure GBI will have followed the money trail. Could she have used this money for tuition? I have no idea what the costs were at the school she was taking classes from.

Why in the world would this not be a topic for discussion? Everything is speculation because there are very few facts that have been released.

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by OliverTwist

They have.
:D

AND????????????

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by PNut



I agree with ya Joe, it would be nothing more than rumor. Do you not agree that 99% of the discussion on ANY board regarding Tara is 99% speculation/rumor?

The only LINKS that can be provided are of interviews/news items that involve her family or such - and even THEN what they have said is not to be taken at 100% truth/proof, no?
Sorry. I disagree. I discuss facts. I have better things to do with my time than banter back and forth about rumors on a message board. I'm here to discuss facts.

Sorry if you find that so hard to grasp.

[PNut]

:lol: I'm sorry readmylips, but I read that last line - she could ask the family - with a perfect Godfather/Brando voice!! :D Just kinda tickled my fancy!

Carry on.....:tongue:

[PNut]

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe

Sorry. I disagree. I discuss facts. I have better things to do with my time than banter back and forth about rumors on a message board. I'm here to discuss facts.

Sorry if you find that so hard to grasp.


WHAT FACTS?!?!? :shrug:

[luvmy2labpups]

Was she receiving grants for school? Pageant wins provide any money?


Why not use her income from work to pay credit cards and car? If she used a retirement account for those things then what did she do with her income from teaching?

[cbcrime]

Of course it would be nice to have some form of verification. But like just about everything else on this case - I don't think it will happen. What I am saying - okay if it is true - what are the implications:

I see - 1) she took it out and used it for some ordinary every day purpose
2) she took it out and used it to start over somewhere

Personally my opinion is that she was is no longer alive. I will say - taking money out - really hit me - for the first time - I could see her leaving - if the money is not accounted for. So a discussion on the possibilities would be nice.

[concernedperson]

If this retirement account was touched for under 10,000 I would imagine it was for everyday expense or maybe she was contemplating buying a home. Under 10,000 doesn' t go too far after 9 months.

Her vehicle, clothing, household items and the rest of her banking accounts were left. Not a well thought out plan and unlikely IMO that she left to start over without everything she owned.Just doesn't fit.

[BFD - v2.0]

I have heard this from three separate sources, but unable to confirm or deny it one way or the other.

The interesting aspect is that there are some other pieces of the puzzle that would tend to corroborate at least the idea of it happening.

One aspect (version) is that Tara was looking to purchase a horse. Another source (independently) stated that Tara had indeed circled an ad for a horse that was for sale. I have been unable to verify if that is true or not. Or whether she ever followed up on looking at the horse or made arrangements as to where she would keep this horse.

Another aspect (version) was that Tara allegedly withdrew this money to pay down her credit card bills. No corroboration at all.

And still another aspect (version) was that Tara used the money to pay off her car not long before she disappeared. Again, no corroboration at all.

And yet another aspect is that Tara had a substantial amount of money in her savings account (uncorroborated), but was less than the amount she allegedly withdrew from her retirement account.

Now, all of this could be absolute hogwash due to the fact it will be next to impossible for any of us not connected to law enforcement to be able to verfiy.

Or, it could be factual in nature.

I tend to think there is at least some truth to the story. How much, I don't have the slightest idea.

[luvmy2labpups]

Originally posted by concernedperson
If this retirement account was touched for under 10,000 I would imagine it was for everyday expense or maybe she was contemplating buying a home. Under 10,000 doesn' t go too far after 9 months.

Her vehicle, clothing, household items and the rest of her banking accounts were left. Not a well thought out plan and unlikely IMO that she left to start over without everything she owned.Just doesn't fit. It sure does fit, what everyday things are worth taking a penalty off of a retirement account for? Why not get a loan from a bank unless you don't want funds traced right? Quick way to take out cash huh? IIRC I was told she was receiving grants for her schooling and may have won some money in pageants, had a decent salary, low rent, small car payment. IMO that does not speak of a person in desperate need of funding to want to take out money that required a penalty.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe


So then you are fsbiii's source then? I deduct this from the fact that you weren't in this conversation before now. If you are the source, where did the info come from? I don't have direct connections to the sister. Sorry to disappoint you.

Let's see some proof or a link, then we can discuss this retirement topic. Without that, we're wasting time (again) discussing something that is rumor.

You can choose not to discuss it. It's really quite simple... just click onto another thread.

At least this particular topic isn't disparaging anyone. Though I see there has been an attempt to disparage posters if the topic isn't liked.

I don't believe anyone is forcing you to read or respond to this thread. If you continue to choose to respond, then it obviously affects you in some manner and is obviously worthy of discussion; if nothing else but for your attempt to say it isn't so.

Life is about choices.

[crytheblues]

If a withdrawal was made, I feel GBI has been on top of the situation and knows exactly what happened to the money, if used, where, and if not used, where the balance is at this moment. No real earth-shattering news here IMO and JMOHO.

[cbcrime]

BFD - I believe you are correct unless you are LE you are not going to be able to get corroboration. Interesting - it would make sense that she paid off her vehicle. That would bring down her everyday expenses. If she was going to buy a horse - then I would think the money had been transferred into her checking or savings account.

I wonder how long before she disappeared she had withdrawn the money. If she was really going to buy a horse - doesn't seem like she was planning to leave.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by cbcrime
BFD - I believe you are correct unless you are LE you are not going to be able to get corroboration. Interesting - it would make sense that she paid off her vehicle. That would bring down her everyday expenses. If she was going to buy a horse - then I would think the money had been transferred into her checking or savings account.

I wonder how long before she disappeared she had withdrawn the money. If she was really going to buy a horse - doesn't seem like she was planning to leave.

Ummm... that's sort of the point though.

She allegedly told different versions to different people about what the money was going to be used for.

[cbcrime]

Interesting. Especially the different stories on what the money was for. If she took out less than 10,000 - and there was only 4,000 in the savings - is any money missing? Or was it already used? Leaves a lot of questions.

[fsbiii]

I would like to commend BFD for making sense of the topic, as usual.

I also think it is worth noting that if Tara planned on vanishing and leaving the teaching profession behind, it would make sense to get the money out of her retirement account (even a reduced amount, penalty applied, etc.) if she wasn't going to be around to get it after 30 years of teaching.

The harsh debate over the veracity of this speculative issue tells me something is fishy. Why be so testy unless you don't want it discussed, even in a speculative context?

I still no sensible reason to take money out of one's retirement account to pay down bills, pay off a used car, or buy a horse....when you are single, rent a home, make very good money, and have financial awards thru the pageantry to pay for grad school.

IMO.

[cbcrime]

I agree I don't understand why it shouldn't be discussed. And the fact that there is such a hoopla about it makes me wonder.

Not everyone handles money the same way. Some people won't touch their retirement - others will take it out for various reasons. I don't know how Tara regarded her retirement. If she took it out - there was a reason. Wonder what it was?

[concernedperson]

She was thirty years old. Retirement doesn't loom that great at 30. But, your stuff does. The few years for the accumulation and the costs of everything would make it hard for a young person to let go. JMO.

Also, I have seen this with my own adult children. My son just bought a great new sofa and he is protecting it at all costs. But, that is because he always had a hand me down and he is having to pay.

If Tara was poor with no options but the arm of some man I could see her escaping all the drama. But, she wasn't. From all indications she was a beloved teacher and felt the same about her students.

If someone has info to the contrary please post.

[mooloo]

Depending on the field, there are times that HOPE pays for tuition for advanced degrees, I believe. I may be wrong on that, but I think it is a possibility, or was when HOPE was first started.

Now, before anyone asks for a link---no, I don't have one and no, I am not looking for one.



Originally posted by cbcrime
If Tara did remove money from her retirement. I sure GBI will have followed the money trail. Could she have used this money for tuition? I have no idea what the costs were at the school she was taking classes from.

Why in the world would this not be a topic for discussion? Everything is speculation because there are very few facts that have been released.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by concernedperson
She was thirty years old. Retirement doesn't loom that great at 30. But, your stuff does. The few years for the accumulation and the costs of everything would make it hard for a young person to let go. JMO.

Also, I have seen this with my own adult children. My son just bought a great new sofa and he is protecting it at all costs. But, that is because he always had a hand me down and he is having to pay.

If Tara was poor with no options but the arm of some man I could see her escaping all the drama. But, she wasn't. From all indications she was a beloved teacher and felt the same about her students.

If someone has info to the contrary please post.

I think every person is different in regards to the importance of material things.

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by luvmy2labpups
Not quite. The purpose of this thread is to discuss and bring forth anybody who may know of this so we can VERIFY it. One poster just posted that the GBI knows about this and has indeed checked into it, so there must be some validity if the GBI has or is looking into it RIGHT? Okay, I'm reading back, and I see the post you are talking about. However, I must ask, I really must... Since WHEN do you put any credibility whatsoever into a FIRST POST by a NEW POSTER???? I'm sorry, but I'm not going to the bank with this one yet. JMHO.

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by cbcrime
BFD - I believe you are correct unless you are LE you are not going to be able to get corroboration. Interesting - it would make sense that she paid off her vehicle. That would bring down her everyday expenses. If she was going to buy a horse - then I would think the money had been transferred into her checking or savings account.

I wonder how long before she disappeared she had withdrawn the money. If she was really going to buy a horse - doesn't seem like she was planning to leave. Maybe she left on the horse. Galloped off into the sunset, you know, like a cheap TV movie or something.

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


I think every person is different in regards to the importance of material things. Your son worships a sofa? Enlighten us, please.

No offense, but can you explain the significance of this, other than someone putting material things above all else? From what I have read and heard about Tara, she wasn't like that at all. Didn't she do more for others than she did for herself? Don't attack...just asking.

[BroadwayJoe]

Sorry, my mistake. I see it is concernedperson's son, and not BFD's, that worships the sofa. Let me re-direct that question to concerned person instead.

I'm not trying to belittle, I just want to understand the sofa issue.

[concernedperson]

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe
Sorry, my mistake. I see it is concernedperson's son, and not BFD's, that worships the sofa. Let me re-direct that question to concerned person instead.

I'm not trying to belittle, I just want to understand the sofa issue.

It isn't hard. If you finally get a chance to own something new. No, he doesn't worship his sofa he is glad to have one. I am just trying to interject how young people think.Actually, I have a hard time posting at all.The cruelty is everpresent. Does anyone have experience with loss or potential loss?

[mooloo]

cp, I understand your son't pride in having purchased his own new furniture after having hand-me-downs for a long time. I've been in the same situation. It is the pride of ownership and the pride of being able to do something by yourself, without mom and/or dad helping you. Sort of like a rite of passage to adulthood.

Originally posted by concernedperson


It isn't hard. If you finally get a chance to own something new. No, he doesn't worship his sofa he is glad to have one. I am just trying to interject how young people think.Actually, I have a hard time posting at all.The cruelty is everpresent. Does anyone have experience with loss or potential loss?

[cbcrime]

Boredway Joe - too bad you can't contribute to the discussion rather than attacking other posters. Oh sorry fruedian slip I meant Broadway Joe

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by cbcrime
Boredway Joe - too bad you can't contribute to the discussion rather than attacking other posters. Oh sorry fruedian slip I meant Broadway Joe I don't recall attacking other posters CBCrime. But are you sure that was an honest error in my name or are you just being sarcastic? IMO, if something is stated as fact and presented for discussion, then we need to have evidence that it is fact. Don't get me wrong, I WANT THIS TO BE FACT. I REALLY DO. But why can't the poster who presented it as "he heard" it somewhere, at least substantiate it? CTV rules at a minimum require that don't they?

:shrug:

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by concernedperson


It isn't hard. If you finally get a chance to own something new. No, he doesn't worship his sofa he is glad to have one. I am just trying to interject how young people think.Actually, I have a hard time posting at all.The cruelty is everpresent. Does anyone have experience with loss or potential loss? You need not explain "loss" to me Concernedperson. Believe me, I know all about loss. What I don't understand is your reference to the sofa vs. this issue. It appears that you are attempting to direct the conversation around the fact that fsbiii is unable to substantiate his "I heard somewhere" claim.

ONCE AGAIN, I HOPE IT IS TRUE.

READ MY LIPS--------> I HOPE IT IS TRUE.

I just need to know if we need to waste precious time on this or not. Tara is out there somewhere, is she not???

[fsbiii]

Broadway-

What part of my first post on this topic isn't clear to you?

I've heard it was a withdrawal of under $10,000 and it wasn't long before 10/22/05, but I can't verify that. Someone closer to the facts would have to substantiate this information, and we know that won't happen (if it's true).

The baiting game is so played out by now. No one's fishing anymore. I don't owe you any "substantiation" whatsoever. IMO, it's true and has everything to do with the topic at hand. Deal with it or ignore it or cloak up a new name and harass us some more.

[concernedperson]

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe
You need not explain "loss" to me Concernedperson. Believe me, I know all about loss. What I don't understand is your reference to the sofa vs. this issue. It appears that you are attempting to direct the conversation around the fact that fsbiii is unable to substantiate his "I heard somewhere" claim.

ONCE AGAIN, I HOPE IT IS TRUE.

READ MY LIPS--------> I HOPE IT IS TRUE.

I just need to know if we need to waste precious time on this or not. Tara is out there somewhere, is she not???
It was an innocent reply. I have no agenda.Please don't attack me for my posting.I have no clue about where fsbiii is getting his info and will not further a post that isn't substantiated.I will speculate but I can't substantiate. I am a regular poster with no association with anyone in s.georgia.

[Elle_Woods]

I think concerned person is just saying that sometimes when you are young there are more immediate expenses and belongings that may make you feel like you need to take care of them sooner, as opposed to what you may need years from now while in retirement and that maybe Tara would not have thought it was a big deal to borrow from her retirement funds.

Also, just as a sidenote, many banks are no longer extending personal loans (especially unsecured personal loans) due to their losses they've incurred when people haven't paid them back and are now only offering credit in the form of a bank-issued credit card.

[crytheblues]

Your post is interesting to me, CB.

How do you know only $4,000 was left in Tara's savings? Did someone post that info on the board?? I can't recall seeing that amount in any post.





[QUOTE]Originally posted by cbcrime
Interesting. Especially the different stories on what the money was for. If she took out less than 10,000 - and there was only 4,000 in the savings - is any money missing? Or was it already used? Leaves a lot of questions. [/QUOTE:

[luvmy2labpups]

Originally posted by crytheblues
Your post is interesting to me, CB.

How do you know only $4,000 was left in Tara's savings? Did someone post that info on the board?? I can't recall seeing that amount in any post.





[QUOTE]Originally posted by cbcrime
Interesting. Especially the different stories on what the money was for. If she took out less than 10,000 - and there was only 4,000 in the savings - is any money missing? Or was it already used? Leaves a lot of questions. [/QUOTE:

Someone posted it on here, I forget which thread. I think it was a guess but I don't remember. It may be on this thread.

[luvmy2labpups]

Originally posted by fsbiii
Broadway-

What part of my first post on this topic isn't clear to you?

I've heard it was a withdrawal of under $10,000 and it wasn't long before 10/22/05, but I can't verify that. Someone closer to the facts would have to substantiate this information, and we know that won't happen (if it's true).

The baiting game is so played out by now. No one's fishing anymore. I don't owe you any "substantiation" whatsoever. IMO, it's true and has everything to do with the topic at hand. Deal with it or ignore it or cloak up a new name and harass us some more. Just keep swimmin, just keep swimmin. LOL No worries FSB most knew what you meant.

[fsbiii]

The $4000 info was posted on Wednesday night in the thread "Did Tara Just Walk Away..."

Originally posted by luvmy2labpups


Someone posted it on here, I forget which thread. I think it was a guess but I don't remember. It may be on this thread.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by crytheblues
Your post is interesting to me, CB.

How do you know only $4,000 was left in Tara's savings? Did someone post that info on the board?? I can't recall seeing that amount in any post.





[QUOTE]Originally posted by cbcrime
Interesting. Especially the different stories on what the money was for. If she took out less than 10,000 - and there was only 4,000 in the savings - is any money missing? Or was it already used? Leaves a lot of questions. [/QUOTE:

I stated I was told she left with $4k in her savings account. I was told that by someone close to the case and someone I don't necessarily see eye-to-eye with.

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by cbcrime
Interesting. Especially the different stories on what the money was for. If she took out less than 10,000 - and there was only 4,000 in the savings - is any money missing? Or was it already used? Leaves a lot of questions.

Unless LE publically offered that info, which I highly doubt, how can anyone know/be privy to such personal and confidential info about Tara; her savings accounts, 401K activity, bank withdrawals, and overall condition of her finances?

[fsbiii]

People who do know those things talk. For some, it's attention or grandstanding. But for others, they might be seeking others' input and advice on an issue. JMO.

Originally posted by Hey Paula


Unless LE publically offered that info, which I highly doubt, how can anyone know/be privy to such personal and confidential info about Tara; her savings accounts, 401K activity, bank withdrawals, and overall condition of her finances?

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by Hey Paula


Unless LE publically offered that info, which I highly doubt, how can anyone know/be privy to such personal and confidential info about Tara; her savings accounts, 401K activity, bank withdrawals, and overall condition of her finances?

Because Tara obviously told people about it due to the fact she gave different reasons for the withdrawal to different people.

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by fsbiii
People who do know those things talk. For some, it's attention or grandstanding. But for others, they might be seeking others' input and advice on an issue. JMO.



Was Tara in the habit of sharing such personal and confidential info with people?

I don't know anyone who shares that kind of info, not even with family members. I've never asked my son, my mother or my sister how much money they have in the bank, or in their retirement plans. Neither have they asked me how much I have, and I am extremely close with my family.

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


Because Tara obviously told people about it due to the fact she gave different reasons for the withdrawal to different people.

The only person who knows what personal and confidential info Tara shared, if indeed she shared any, is Tara herself.

[fsbiii]

And the person(s) she told, right?

:confused:

Originally posted by Hey Paula


The only person who knows what personal and confidential info Tara shared, if indeed she shared any, is Tara herself.

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by fsbiii
And the person(s) she told, right?

:confused:



We have only that person's word for it. Tara cannot confirm or verify that she shared that info with the person/s claiming it.

[fsbiii]

I gotcha.

Originally posted by Hey Paula

We have only that person's word for it. Tara cannot confirm or verify that she shared that info with the person claiming it.

[BroadwayJoe]

fsbiii
Member

Registered: Nov 2005
Location:
Posts: 431
The $4000 info was posted on Wednesday night in the thread "Did Tara Just Walk Away..."



quote:
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Originally posted by luvmy2labpups


Someone posted it on here, I forget which thread. I think it was a guess but I don't remember. It may be on this thread.
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[B]There's no post like that, so may we assume this was made up information?

One poster swears it was from a "source"; another says "Tara said it" to someone; another says "it's posted somewhere but I don't remember where"; and yet another says which thread, but it's not there. One of 2 things has happened here. Either someone DOES have reliable information and got it illegally; or someone just made it up. Obviously, if someone obtained this information illegally, they would not come forward; and likewise, if it was "made up" I doubt anyone would come forward either. It's funny how this info just "appears" out of nowhere, with no substantiated proof whatsoever. I am certain GBI wouldn't release this sort of information, so, hypothetically, if it IS accurate, and someone has it, they obtained it illegally. Since several of you seem so adamant about hiding the "source" of the info, I'm going to assume the worst at this time and make decisions accordingly.
:no:

[fsbiii]

THE POST IS THERE. Here's the direct quote:

" I have no way of knowing, but I think Anita is paying Tara's bills out of her own pockets. (And for what it's worth, Tara didn't really have any bills to speak of that we know of. Her car was paid off, she has no mortgage, maybe some student loans... I don't think it would be a whole lot. And for what it's worth, I've also heard that Tara had approximately $4k in her savings account when she left. But it is also my understanding that Tara had taken a sizable chunk out of her retirement account before she went missing.)"

You can assume and make legal threats til the cows come home.

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe
fsbiii
Member

Registered: Nov 2005
Location:
Posts: 431
The $4000 info was posted on Wednesday night in the thread "Did Tara Just Walk Away..."



quote:
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Originally posted by luvmy2labpups


Someone posted it on here, I forget which thread. I think it was a guess but I don't remember. It may be on this thread.
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[B]There's no post like that, so may we assume this was made up information?

One poster swears it was from a "source"; another says "Tara said it" to someone; another says "it's posted somewhere but I don't remember where"; and yet another says which thread, but it's not there. One of 2 things has happened here. Either someone DOES have reliable information and got it illegally; or someone just made it up. Obviously, if someone obtained this information illegally, they would not come forward; and likewise, if it was "made up" I doubt anyone would come forward either. It's funny how this info just "appears" out of nowhere, with no substantiated proof whatsoever. I am certain GBI wouldn't release this sort of information, so, hypothetically, if it IS accurate, and someone has it, they obtained it illegally. Since several of you seem so adamant about hiding the "source" of the info, I'm going to assume the worst at this time and make decisions accordingly.
:no:

[fsbiii]

Deflect.
Distract.
Harass.

The topic is TARA'S accounts. Why can't we stay on topic?

Originally posted by OliverTwist
I think whoever the source is should look at a couple of other accounts while they are in there. Namely MH's and ML's. Might see some pretty interesting transactions IMO.

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by fsbiii
Here's the direct quote:

" I have no way of knowing, but I think Anita is paying Tara's bills out of her own pockets. (And for what it's worth, Tara didn't really have any bills to speak of that we know of. Her car was paid off, she has no mortgage, maybe some student loans... I don't think it would be a whole lot. And for what it's worth, I've also heard that Tara had approximately $4k in her savings account when she left. But it is also my understanding that Tara had taken a sizable chunk out of her retirement account before she went missing.)"



Let me see if I understand this... Your info comes from a post that begins with "I have no way of knowing, but..." and ends with "I heard..." but we are supposed to accept this as "fact"? Oh please. Surely even you can do better than that. If it's fact, it's fact, and you have proof. If it's rumor, it's rumor, and "you heard" something.

HOWEVER, Oliver?? I'd be interested to know if you have valid info. PM me please.

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by fsbiii
Deflect.
Distract.
Harass.

The topic is TARA'S accounts. Why can't we stay on topic?


I'd like to hear more from Oliver. Is he your source fsbiii?

[fsbiii]

I never said the information was a fact, lady. I said it was speculation. Read back. Don't "twist" my words
Originally posted by BroadwayJoe

Let me see if I understand this... Your info comes from a post that begins with "I have no way of knowing, but..." and ends with "I heard..." but we are supposed to accept this as "fact"? Oh please. Surely even you can do better than that. If it's fact, it's fact, and you have proof. If it's rumor, it's rumor, and "you heard" something.

HOWEVER, Oliver?? I'd be interested to know if you have valid info. PM me please.

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by IrwinIndian
Looks like some information has got out that AG wanted kept quiet. That is my take on this situation.


That's a very interesting post Irwin. Could be read in a number of ways.

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by fsbiii
I never said the information was a fact, lady. I said it was speculation. Read back. Don't "twist" my words with your buddy tonight.


Looks like I hit a nerve. Found your source maybe?

[BroadwayJoe]

Oliver, I really don't care WHERE you got the info. I just want to know if it's accurate. Don't let fsbiii bully you into silence. We are not here to harass a source. Only to understand.

[fsbiii]

Huh? Your post makes no sense, which is probably the point. The only nerve you ever hit is the funny bone. Ask AG about the money and the credit card paydown. I think that's the story being told. Or was it a horse purchase? Who can keep up these days, really.

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe

Looks like I hit a nerve. Found your source maybe?

[cbcrime]

What is it about this topic that has people so stirred up? It is a discussion of possibilities. No one has ever stated the retirement or the bank account as facts. They stated that this is what they heard and in some cases from multiple sources.

And some people will tell other people their life story. I have one at work and I just wish I didn't know that much about her personal life. So why all of the twisting of posts?

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by Hey Paula


The only person who knows what personal and confidential info Tara shared, if indeed she shared any, is Tara herself.

You seem to have a desire for Tara to be dead...

Does it offend you that she might be alive?

It sure seems that way.

And not only you, but many people seem to take offense to the idea Tara could be alive.

:confused:

[BroadwayJoe]

To be continued I guess?? Oliver PM me back, and let's all discuss this like adults tomorrow. Novel idea? I thought so too. It feels good to finally find an answer for something, so on that note, I think I'll go get some dinner.

[Lindsey]

A horse?? Where was Tara going to keep a horse? In the backyard with Dolly? I have never heard about Tara having an interest in horses before. I wonder what else I haven't heard.

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by IrwinIndian
Usually when there is a bunch of harassment on a topic it means it is info that is too close to something that is not to be discussed. HD for example, LG for example, AG for example.


Computer hacking for example.
:confused:

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by OliverTwist
Maybe she used the money to get MH out of trouble again.
:confused:

Possibly, but it is my understanding that Marcus had his own significant pile of cash at that time.

[fsbiii]

"J4T...Clear your PM box....please!" *LOL*

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe
To be continued I guess?? Oliver PM me back, and let's all discuss this like adults tomorrow. Novel idea? I thought so too. It feels good to finally find an answer for something, so on that note, I think I'll go get some dinner.

[rhill]

Originally posted by IrwinIndian
Usually when there is a bunch of harassment on a topic it means it is info that is too close to something that is not to be discussed. HD for example, LG for example, AG for example.



Just use the harassing posts as a barometer to let you know the topic is a good one....otw ignore them.

[crytheblues]

It seems a lot of horse manure flying around if you ask me.

Who can keep us with this mess?? Nonsense!!


Originally posted by fsbiii
Huh? Your post makes no sense, which is probably the point. The only nerve you ever hit is the funny bone. Ask AG about the money and the credit card paydown. I think that's the story being told. Or was it a horse purchase? Who can keep up these days, really.

[Lindsey]

Originally posted by rhill


Just use the harassing posts as a barometer to let you know the topic is a good one....otw ignore them.

In that case, I would say Tara's retirement account is a good topic!

[crytheblues]

Pardon the pun, BVD, but YOU are "dead" wrong with your statement. That is a very cruel thing to say. I would love for Tara to be found alive and well. You are unbelievable!


Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


You seem to have a desire for Tara to be dead...

Does it offend you that she might be alive?

It sure seems that way.

And not only you, but many people seem to take offense to the idea Tara could be alive.

:confused:

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


You seem to have a desire for Tara to be dead...

Does it offend you that she might be alive?

It sure seems that way.

And not only you, but many people seem to take offense to the idea Tara could be alive.

:confused:

I would like nothing more than for Tara to be alive, and consider it an affront that you would even post that I have a desire for Tara to be dead, but I guess nothing you post should surprise me.

I'm a realist, and unfortunately when people disappear, and are missing for 10 months, having left their possessions and capital behind, they are often victims of foul play.

You seem to be more concerned about protecting one of the persons who might be viewed as a POI than about Tara herself.

It sure seems that way to me.

:confused:

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


Possibly, but it is my understanding that Marcus had his own significant pile of cash at that time.

How did you reach that understanding? Did Marcus tell you that he had a significant pile of cash?

[crytheblues]

Amen, Paula....



Originally posted by Hey Paula


I would like nothing more than for Tara to be alive, and consider it an affront that you would even post that I have a desire for Tara to be dead, but I guess nothing you post should surprise me.

I'm a realist, and unfortunately when people disappear, and are missing for 10 months, having left their possessions and capital behind, they are often victims of foul play.

You seem to be more concerned about protecting one of the persons who might be viewed as a POI than about Tara herself.

It sure seems that way to me.

:confused:

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by crytheblues
Pardon the pun, BVD, but YOU are "dead" wrong with your statement. That is a very cruel thing to say. I would love for Tara to be found alive and well. You are unbelievable!




They why do people seem so offended when talking about the possibility Tara could be alive?

It's like people would rather their egos be massaged by being correct that Tara is dead rather than admit they're wrong and she's alive.

I've never seen such a ridiculous clamor in my life regarding something so innocuous as the possibility Tara withdrew money from a retirement account.

The very people whining are generally the same people wanting everyone to believe Marcus Harper murdered Tara.

There is just as much evidence Tara withdrew this money as there is of Marcus murdering Tara... but one creates a big stink and the other is an expected assumption to be considered a person that is here "for Tara".

I find the witch hunt and those who attempt to sell it constantly disgusting, vile and almost inhuman for their desire to have some type of necrotic drama play out in front of their eyes. Any attempt to look at things in a light that could produce a positive outcome is shunned.

Talk about strange... sheesh.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by Hey Paula


How did you reach that understanding? Did Marcus tell you that he had a significant pile of cash?

Actually some of the people who claim he murdered Tara have been talking about it.

[crytheblues]

I find what you are trying to do very strange.

Who cares about the money. Who cares about being right or wrong. I certainly do not. All I care about is finding the jerk or jerks who are responsible for Tara's disappearance. I wish like heck she was alive and teaching students for the upcoming year but I highly doubt that she will ever teach again. And that is JMOHO. Take it or leave it.
I don't think people are as upset about this new revelation as you would like for everyone to believe!!! Again that is JMOHO.

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


They why do people seem so offended when talking about the possibility Tara could be alive?

It's like people would rather their egos be massaged by being correct that Tara is dead rather than admit they're wrong and she's alive.

I've never seen such a ridiculous clamor in my life regarding something so innocuous as the possibility Tara withdrew money from a retirement account.

The very people whining, *****ing and moaning are generally the same people wanting everyone to believe Marcus Harper murdered Tara.

WTF!!!! There is just as much evidence Tara withdrew this money as there is of Marcus murdering Tara... but one creates a big stink and the other is an expected assumption to be considered a person that is here "for Tara".

I find the witch hunt and those who attempt to sell it constantly disgusting, vile and almost inhuman for their desire to have some type of necrotic drama play out in front of their eyes. Any attempt to look at things in a light that could produce a positive outcome is shunned.

Talk about strange... sheesh.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by Hey Paula


I would like nothing more than for Tara to be alive, and consider it an affront that you would even post that I have a desire for Tara to be dead, but I guess nothing you post should surprise me.

I'm a realist, and unfortunately when people disappear, and are missing for 10 months, having left their possessions and capital behind, they are often victims of foul play.

You seem to be more concerned about protecting one of the persons who might be viewed as a POI than about Tara herself.

It sure seems that way to me.

:confused:

"Protecting"?

I am of the mindset that requires some type of evidence and/or proof that someone can be involved in a crime before subjecting them to a witch hunt.

it takes more than the fact "they're a man" to constitute "evidence" of a crime being perpetrated by them.

[Lindsey]

Could we keep the discussion on Tara's retirement account? I think there's a thread about MH somewhere down the list.

I would be very interested in knowing when Tara made the withdrawal. Was it within a month of the time she vanished? Anyone?

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by crytheblues
I find what you are trying to do very strange.

Who cares about the money. Who cares about being right or wrong. I certainly do not. All I care about is finding the jerk or jerks who are responsible for Tara's disappearance. I wish like heck she was alive and teaching students for the upcoming year but I highly doubt that she will ever teach again. And that is JMOHO. Take it or leave it, I really could care less about you or your beliefs.

I don't think people are as upset about this new revelation as you and your cronies would like for everyone to believe!!! Again that is JMOHO.



Obviously you care about the money or the possibility she withdrew it, or you wouldn't be on this thread
You want someone caught for murdering Tara?

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


They why do people seem so offended when talking about the possibility Tara could be alive?

It's like people would rather their egos be massaged by being correct that Tara is dead rather than admit they're wrong and she's alive.

I've never seen such a ridiculous clamor in my life regarding something so innocuous as the possibility Tara withdrew money from a retirement account.

The very people whining, *****ing and moaning are generally the same people wanting everyone to believe Marcus Harper murdered Tara.

WTF!!!! There is just as much evidence Tara withdrew this money as there is of Marcus murdering Tara... but one creates a big stink and the other is an expected assumption to be considered a person that is here "for Tara".

I find the witch hunt and those who attempt to sell it constantly disgusting, vile and almost inhuman for their desire to have some type of necrotic drama play out in front of their eyes. Any attempt to look at things in a light that could produce a positive outcome is shunned.

Talk about strange... sheesh.

I have often found that those who accuse others of outrageous and obnoxious behavior are the ones who practice that behavior themselves.

Braggarts are usually the ones who need and want their egos massaged. Look to those types of posters when pointing your fingers. Be careful though, I wouldn't want you to injure yourself in the process.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by Hey Paula


I have often found that those who accuse others of outrageous and obnoxious behavior are the ones who practice that behavior themselves.

Braggarts are usually the ones who need and want their egos massaged. Look to those types of posters when pointing your fingers. Be careful though, I wouldn't want you to injure yourself in the process.

And I have often stated that I am obnoxious, rude and condescending. I'm not here to win a popularity contest.

I call things as I see them.

But so far as being braggart? I'm intelligent. In fact I'm know I'm more intelligent and better informed than the vast majority of people I waste my time responding to. That's just the bottom line facts. If it comes across as being a "braggart" because of that fact, then so be it. I'm not ashamed of being more intelligent than the average person. When I was in high school it was deemed "strange" to be more advanced than the other students. Now that I'm an old man, I take pride in it. use the ignore feature. Doesn't matter to me, I don't intend upon changing because you don't like it.

[Elle_Woods]

Unbelievable. :mad:

[HonestInjun]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


And I have often stated that I am obnoxious, rude and condescending. I'm not here to win a popularity contest.

I call things as I see them.

And so far as egos, I'm not the one creating multiple nicknames responding to myself and praising myself. Sounds like a mental disturbance to me.

But so far as being braggart? I'm intelligent. In fact I'm know I'm more intelligent and better informed than the vast majority of people I waste my time responding to. That's just the bottom line facts. If it comes across as being a "braggart" because of that fact, then so be it. I'm not ashamed of being more intelligent than the average person. When I was in high school it was deemed "strange" to be more advanced than the other students. Now that I'm an old man, I take pride in it. Get over it, or use the ignore feature. Doesn't matter to me, I don't intend upon changing because you don't like it.
I'm know u r smart two....
:lol:

Sorry BFD, couldn't resist that. But one part of your speech about how wonderful you are did concern me. Up there at the top. You said you weren't here to win a popularity contest...etc. Thinking back, didn't Tara's sister make a statement similar to that once? Something to the effect of she "wasn't in town to make friends" or something like that? People read all sorts of things into that and tried to twist it all around and take it out of context. I find it very strange that you would make a statement so similar, yet expect praise and glory.

Strange.

[luvmy2labpups]

This thread has created a stir and many on here are not interested in actually discussing the possibilities that this can bring. If this is true, there is a HUGE possibility that Tara planned to leave. Excuses can be made until the cows come home but lets be honest, if a sum of 10,000 or any other figure was taken out shortly before her disappearance, from an account that gives a penalty upon taking money out it appears "hinky". If people can separate themselves from their own feelings of never being able to do this would say HMMMMM money withdrawn, no sign of struggle, no evidence of foul play, purse and keys gone, door locked, anything that could be traced to her left at home (car, cell, etc) it would open up a NEW perspective. Many have said she was young, single, didn't think about her retirement, paid off debt, car, school, etc. If and I mean big IF she did take out money to pay off these things, I ask why did she not get a bank loan to pay them off. Remember the comment that the only activity on her accounts was Anita paying on it? We can't have it both ways, either Anita was paying her bills or Tara took money out to pay off her bills. If she had so much debt that she felt inclined to borrow money, what was she purchasing, could those items be sold at a later date, were there airline tickets purchased, bus tickets, a used vehicle paid in cash? Where did her income from teaching go? The idea that some are quick to dismiss it makes me really question their ability to see things from an unbiased perspective. This possibility brings so many questions.

[Saskatoon]

Looks like some people didn't get the private message about not discussing this topic.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by HonestInjun

I'm know u r smart two....
:lol:

Sorry BFD, couldn't resist that. But one part of your speech about how wonderful you are did concern me. Up there at the top. You said you weren't here to win a popularity contest...etc. Thinking back, didn't Tara's sister make a statement similar to that once? Something to the effect of she "wasn't in town to make friends" or something like that? People read all sorts of things into that and tried to twist it all around and take it out of context. I find it very strange that you would make a statement so similar, yet expect praise and glory.

Strange.

Who expects praise and glory? If you're saying I expect it, please show me any post of mine that indicates that.

The thing that has pissed me off real good on this thread is the absolutely insane manner I've seen people get so riled up over the idea Tara could be alive.

I mean, I seriously have never seen anything in my life where a bunch people on the internet are getting together and getting when anyone talks about the idea that someone else could be alive. Blows my mind.

How unbelievably that some people come across as wanting Tara to be dead, just so they can be right in their assumptions. And that's exactly how people come across when they start pitching conniptions over any information that can point to the idea Tara left on her own. Flabbergasting.

[Saskatoon]

11-4-05
""I did not come to Ocilla to make friends. I came to find my sister, and if I make enemies along the way, that's okay too," she says."

Seemed pretty in-context and prophetic to me. Maybe she should've been nice and respectful to make friends instead of controlling and one-sighted to make "enemies"?

Originally posted by HonestInjun

I'm know u r smart two....

Sorry BFD, couldn't resist that. But one part of your speech about how wonderful you are did concern me. Up there at the top. You said you weren't here to win a popularity contest...etc. Thinking back, didn't Tara's sister make a statement similar to that once? Something to the effect of she "wasn't in town to make friends" or something like that? People read all sorts of things into that and tried to twist it all around and take it out of context. I find it very strange that you would make a statement so similar, yet expect praise and glory.

Strange.

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by luvmy2labpups
This thread has created a stir and many on here are not interested in actually discussing the possibilities that this can bring. If this is true, there is a HUGE possibility that Tara planned to leave. Excuses can be made until the cows come home but lets be honest, if a sum of 10,000 or any other figure was taken out shortly before her disappearance, from an account that gives a penalty upon taking money out it appears "hinky". If people can separate themselves from their own feelings of never being able to do this would say HMMMMM money withdrawn, no sign of struggle, no evidence of foul play, purse and keys gone, door locked, anything that could be traced to her left at home (car, cell, etc) it would open up a NEW perspective. Many have said she was young, single, didn't think about her retirement, paid off debt, car, school, etc. If and I mean big IF she did take out money to pay off these things, I ask why did she not get a bank loan to pay them off. Remember the comment that the only activity on her accounts was Anita paying on it? We can't have it both ways, either Anita was paying her bills or Tara took money out to pay off her bills. If she had so much debt that she felt inclined to borrow money, what was she purchasing, could those items be sold at a later date, were there airline tickets purchased, bus tickets, a used vehicle paid in cash? Where did her income from teaching go? The idea that some are quick to dismiss it makes me really question their ability to see things from an unbiased perspective. This possibility brings so many questions.
This thread "created a stir" because there were no facts stated at any time. Only "I heard" or "I thought someone said", etc. coupled with a mysterious "source" of sorts supposedly giving info to fsbiii. Thinking logically like I am prone to do, I decided to find out this information for myself, and to get it "straight from the horse's mouth" so to speak, while at the same time respecting fsbiii's "source", And BTW, Tara doesn't have a horse either so you all can shelve that one as well, but here we go on the retirement issue: Tara's immediate family has ALL of Tara's 401k statements from the past two years and no money, repeat NO MONEY has been withdrawn. FURTHER, her teacher's retirement has not been touched. All she did was get a credit card that had a lower interest rate than another credit card she had. Once obtaining the new card, she transferred a balance of several thousand dollars. It may look like she paid that much on it if someone does not have access to all of her finances and credit card statements. The foregoing was DIRECTLY from a family member, so you can take it or leave it. The same person wanted to relay another message as well, to tell the CTV posters, specifically fsbiii, to stop losing sleep over this, and to focus his energy on something truthful and productive for a change. They are tired of being harassed on this forum by the use of lies and innuendo, and outright slander, and wished only to set the record straight once and for all.

Fsbiii, get another source.

Again, the above information came DIRECTLY from Tara's immediate family. You can choose to believe it or not, I really don't have an issue with either. But I DO think it's ridiculous for threads like this to go absolutely BONKERS before they come back to reality. Shall we get back to reality now? Shall we?

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally posted by Saskatoon
11-4-05
""I did not come to Ocilla to make friends. I came to find my sister, and if I make enemies along the way, that's okay too," she says."

Seemed pretty in-context and prophetic to me. Maybe she should've been nice and respectful to make friends instead of controlling and one-sighted to make "enemies"?


That sounds quite harsh. Almost like you are stating you are an enemy, like on a personal level.

That's interesting, but it really has no place on this board does it?

[BroadwayJoe]

Hope you all find what you are looking for and have a great day. I have, like, you know, a regular job, so....play nice!
:punch:

[fsbiii]

I get a personal "back off" from Anita? Wow. That only makes me look more, to be honest. But she knows that by now. I've only been looking for truthful and productive things from the very beginning, can she say the same? The whole thread was couched in speculation, but that got overlooked in the mad dash to discredit posters, intimidate with legal threats, and otherwise cover up the topic (like many times before).

And for the record, I don't trust your source more than you trust mine. Saying "the family" says anything means absolutely nothing to me. Look at the track record. There's a reason 95% of the things said have been changed, twisted, or downright false.

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe

This thread "created a stir" because there were no facts stated at any time. Only "I heard" or "I thought someone said", etc. coupled with a mysterious "source" of sorts supposedly giving info to fsbiii. Thinking logically like I am prone to do, I decided to find out this information for myself, and to get it "straight from the horse's mouth" so to speak, while at the same time respecting fsbiii's "source", which incidentally, turned out to be not a very good one. And BTW, Tara doesn't have a horse either so you all can shelve that one as well, but here we go on the retirement issue: Tara's immediate family has ALL of Tara's 401k statements from the past two years and no money, repeat NO MONEY has been withdrawn. FURTHER, her teacher's retirement has not been touched. All she did was get a credit card that had a lower interest rate than another credit card she had. Once obtaining the new card, she transferred a balance of several thousand dollars. It may look like she paid that much on it if someone does not have access to all of her finances and credit card statements. The foregoing was DIRECTLY from a family member, so you can take it or leave it. The same person wanted to relay another message as well, to tell the CTV posters, specifically fsbiii, to stop losing sleep over this, and to focus his energy on something truthful and productive for a change. They are tired of being harassed on this forum by the use of lies and innuendo, and outright slander, and wished only to set the record straight once and for all.

Fsbiii, get another source.

Again, the above information came DIRECTLY from Tara's immediate family. You can choose to believe it or not, I really don't have an issue with either. But I DO think it's ridiculous for threads like this to go absolutely BONKERS before they come back to reality. Shall we get back to reality now? Shall we?

[fsbiii]

That was the intent of the information, but don't let it fool you. We've been down this road many times.

Didn't "the family" actually ask a teacher about the withdrawal, i.e., had no knowledge of it and turned to those who did?

Originally posted by barry9120
This information seems to end this thread.

[PNut]

Originally posted by fsbiii
*snip*

And for the record, I don't trust your source more than you trust mine. Saying "the family" says anything means absolutely nothing to me. Look at the track record. There's a reason 95% of the things said have been changed, twisted, or downright false.




Exactly fsbiii :beer:

"The family" as a reliable source? :no: The Spinners? No way. They are no more reliable than anyone else in this case.

[luvmy2labpups]

Originally posted by BroadwayJoe

This thread "created a stir" because there were no facts stated at any time. Only "I heard" or "I thought someone said", etc. coupled with a mysterious "source" of sorts supposedly giving info to fsbiii. Thinking logically like I am prone to do, I decided to find out this information for myself, and to get it "straight from the horse's mouth" so to speak, while at the same time respecting fsbiii's "source", which incidentally, turned out to be not a very good one. And BTW, Tara doesn't have a horse either so you all can shelve that one as well, but here we go on the retirement issue: Tara's immediate family has ALL of Tara's 401k statements from the past two years and no money, repeat NO MONEY has been withdrawn. FURTHER, her teacher's retirement has not been touched. All she did was get a credit card that had a lower interest rate than another credit card she had. Once obtaining the new card, she transferred a balance of several thousand dollars. It may look like she paid that much on it if someone does not have access to all of her finances and credit card statements. The foregoing was DIRECTLY from a family member, so you can take it or leave it. The same person wanted to relay another message as well, to tell the CTV posters, specifically fsbiii, to stop losing sleep over this, and to focus his energy on something truthful and productive for a change. They are tired of being harassed on this forum by the use of lies and innuendo, and outright slander, and wished only to set the record straight once and for all.

Fsbiii, get another source.

Again, the above information came DIRECTLY from Tara's immediate family. You can choose to believe it or not, I really don't have an issue with either. But I DO think it's ridiculous for threads like this to go absolutely BONKERS before they come back to reality. Shall we get back to reality now? Shall we? And I am supposed to believe U over any other poster when the context of all of your posts clearly shows your position on this matter? NO WAY! You have shown that you are not interested in any other theory then the AG camp thinking. Pardon me for disregarding EVERYTHING you have said. After a long review of all of the interviews AG and LG have given, I have also choosen to disregard ANYTHING that comes from them. I will continue to research this and see what comes from it. If you want to move on then please do.

[PNut]

Might I have some more?

:D

[PNut]

YES! I couldn't remember if there was a please there or not!!

Wasn't it - Might I have some more please sir? LOL Ah, takes me back to Senior English....:tongue:

[jond]

No, my source is better than your source...LOL. Maybe all this could have been avoided if the initiating post said: I either heard this or am making it up, but never mind it still could have happened. I wil say it least it has the plausbility of reality unlike other TG talk and with that said:

Why would TG take only a porton of her retirement account and not all?

Also, IMO, it would be very unusual for a bank to doal out thousands of dollars in cash, if it had, IMO, this would have come out long ago. If not, someone cashed a check close to $10,000.00 for TG, now thats a guy I can do bidness with.

[concernedperson]

Unless someone can tell me why a 30 year old would leave without a trace than I am discounting the money aspect. I contend and no one has swayed me that she wouldn't have done that considering all other possibilities.

Don't use the Jennifer Wilbanks excuse because as soon as she was out of money she called home. Tara was not in the same category. Jennifer was quick to lay blame on hispanic drivers but nothing from Tara.She isn't that sophisticated, in my opinion, to lay low from this period of time if she was a Jennifer Wilbanks.

I don't want Tara to be dead but I am not buying all the runaway theories. I would love to be wrong.But I don't think I am.

[jond]

I agree, its a goose chase and there have been plenty of gooses around...at least this goose had feathers, a little more respectable than the other gooses.

[TuscanDreams]

Originally posted by luvmy2labpups
This thread has created a stir and many on here are not interested in actually discussing the possibilities that this can bring. If this is true, there is a HUGE possibility that Tara planned to leave.

I see your point. The only problem I see with Tara leaving on her own is that she has not been seen- anywhere. She's high profile and I'd think that with the media coverage, she'd have been spotted by now.

Unless she retired in an Amish village or some place with no TV's!

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by TuscanDreams


I see your point. The only problem I see with Tara leaving on her own is that she has not been seen- anywhere. She's high profile and I'd think that with the media coverage, she'd have been spotted by now.

Unless she retired in an Amish village or some place with no TV's!

High profile?

I would estimate that 99% of the population wouldn't have the slightest idea who Tara Grinstead is if she was sitting right next to them.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by jond
No, my source is better than your source...LOL. Maybe all this could have been avoided if the initiating post said: I either heard this or am making it up, but never mind it still could have happened. I wil say it least it has the plausbility of reality unlike other TG talk and with that said:

Why would TG take only a porton of her retirement account and not all?

Also, IMO, it would be very unusual for a bank to doal out thousands of dollars in cash, if it had, IMO, this would have come out long ago. If not, someone cashed a check close to $10,000.00 for TG, now thats a guy I can do bidness with.

Actually, I am the one who first mentioned it and I did say I wasn't sure if it was true or not. After my post on another thread mentioning it, this thread was created.

It also wasn't $10k.

And the amount it was and considering the length of time Tara was employed, I would imagine that the amount taken did empty out the retirement fund.

[concernedperson]

Tara is not a high profile case. It doesn't matter who thinks differently. She is in my heart. I will never stop looking for her.

[crytheblues]

Originally posted by readmylips


so i guess you secured a direct connection sometime between 3 ysterday and when you posted your direct from the family info?

thats good to know really because there are a lot of things we'd like to get direct information about. can we count on you to be an information gatherer now?

Why?? Have you lost your direct connection?? You aren't using your specialized spyware, key logger, to monitor every e-mail, IM, chat, or log every Web site visited???? AWWWW....shucks. What about the Trojandownloader???

Didn't anyone tell you in March of 2006 the Senate approved the Undertaking Spam, Spyware and Fraud Enforcement With Enforcers Beyond Borders Act (US Safe Web Act) which allows the FTC to exchange information on ongoing investigations with foreign law enforcers, boosting the agency's efforts to nab spammers and spys. Spys are being prosecuted and sent to prison. About time, don't you think???

[Lindsey]

Originally posted by crytheblues


Why?? Have you lost your direct connection?? You aren't using your specialized spyware, key logger, to monitor every e-mail, IM, chat, or log every Web site visited???? AWWWW....shucks. What about the Trojandownloader???

Didn't anyone tell you in March of 2006 the Senate approved the Undertaking Spam, Spyware and Fraud Enforcement With Enforcers Beyond Borders Act (US Safe Web Act) which allows the FTC to exchange information on ongoing investigations with foreign law enforcers, boosting the agency's efforts to nab spammers and spys. Spys are being prosecuted and sent to prison. About time, don't you think???


Why are you trying to get this thread deleted? What is it on this thread that threatens you?

[crytheblues]

To answer your first question - NO!

Second question - NOT ONE DARN THING!!!

Originally posted by Lindsey



Why are you trying to get this thread deleted? What is it on this thread that threatens you?

[concernedperson]

I am so core right now. If this is a game please excuse yourself. There is nothing funny about a missing person case. Ever.

Look for everything but remember the person who is missing. They didn't ask for this. They need to be found in whatever shape or form...it is what we do. This is why a forum was created. JMO.

[Lindsey]

Back to the topic of this thread; Tara's Retirement Account.

Did Tara have access to any other large sums of money that we might not be thinking of. I'm thinking about the references to her large credit cards bills. Unless she was making frequent (or large) cash withdrawals, why were her balances so high? It doesn't match up with the lifestyle Tara was said to be living. IMO

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by Lindsey
Back to the topic of this thread; Tara's Retirement Account.

Did Tara have access to any other large sums of money that we might not be thinking of. I'm thinking about the references to her large credit cards bills. Unless she was making frequent (or large) cash withdrawals, why were her balances so high? It doesn't match up with the lifestyle Tara was said to be living. IMO


What large credit card bills?

[fsbiii]

"Once obtaining the new card, she transferred a balance of several thousand dollars."

-family source, via Broadway Joe up above

Originally posted by Hey Paula

What large credit card bills?

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by fsbiii
"Once obtaining the new card, she transferred a balance of several thousand dollars."

-family source, via Broadway Joe up above



Transferring a PRIOR [emphasis] balance to a new card, in order to pay a reduced rate of interest, is a common practice. We don't know what the inception date of the original loan was. What we do know is that it was not a new loan taken out for the purpose of skipping town.

IMO

[Lindsey]

Originally posted by Hey Paula



What large credit card bills?

Read back on this thread and you'll find references to Tara's credit card debts. It was also said to be offered as one of the reasons Tara might have taken money from her retirement account.

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by Lindsey


Read back on this thread and you'll find references to Tara's credit card debts. It was also said to be offered as one of the reasons Tara might have taken money from her retirement account.

We don't know, for a FACT, that Tara took money from her retirement account.

[fsbiii]

In my book, carrying a large balance on a credit card creates a high credit card debt month to month. You never seem satisfied with the simplest of answers, HP.

Originally posted by Hey Paula


Transferring a PRIOR [emphasis] balance to a new card, in order to pay a reduced rate of interest, is a common practice. We don't know what the inception date of the original loan was. What we do know is that it was not a new loan taken out for the purpose of skipping town.

IMO

[Lindsey]

Originally posted by Hey Paula


Transferring a PRIOR [emphasis] balance to a new card, in order to pay a reduced rate of interest, is a common practice. We don't know what the inception date of the original loan was. What we do know is that it was not a new loan taken out for the purpose of skipping town.

IMO

Even if it was only a transfer, there was "a balance of several thousand dollars." per BWJ above

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by Lindsey


Even if it was only a transfer, there was "a balance of several thousand dollars." per BWJ above

The age of the original loan is relevant if you are drawing a connection to Tara using this money to create a new life for herself elsewhere.

[fsbiii]

Huh? You only asked, "What large credit card bills?" - and you got an answer. Don't twist and bend.

Originally posted by Hey Paula


The age of the original loan is relevant if you are drawing a connection to Tara using this money to create a new life for herself elsewhere.

[Lindsey]

Originally posted by Hey Paula


The age of the original loan is relevant if you are drawing a connection to Tara using this money to create a new life for herself elsewhere.

Remember this post you made?

Originally posted by Hey Paula

What large credit card bills?

That's what I was responding to. I wasn't talking about loans of any size. What large loans are you speaking of?

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by fsbiii
Huh? You only asked, "What large credit card bills?" - and you got an answer. Don't twist and bend.



I'm not one one who is twisting and bending.

Old transferred debts and/or credit card consolidation are not new loans. This entire issue began when the question of why Tara would leave without closing her bank accounts, leaving all her capital behind, was raised.

That's when the retirement account loan and credit card loan speculations began to surface.

[Lindsey]

Originally posted by Results


Darn it! Now I'm confused. Paula said loan. Is there a loan or not? TIA

I was talking about the money from the retirement account and large credit card bills.

Apparently Paula knows something I don't. I don't know about a loan.

JMO

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by Results


Darn it! Now I'm confused. Paula said loan. Is there a loan or not? TIA

loan Pronunciation (ln)
n.
1.
a. Something lent for temporary use.
b. A sum of money lent at interest.

Credit card debts are loans.

[Lindsey]

Originally posted by Results


Thank you, Paula. I got it now. I think the confusion came in where you used both....credit card and loan. I was thinking she had both.


I think it was when Paula said "the age of the original loan is relevant" part that caused me to think she knew there was a large loan in addition to large credit card bills. Sorry I got confused too.

IMO

[TuscanDreams]

Originally posted by concernedperson
Tara is not a high profile case. It doesn't matter who thinks differently. She is in my heart. I will never stop looking for her.

Now that I think about it, Tara was only on the news programs for a brief few minutes. I think that I assume because of my interest, everyone else may be as well.

My thoughts and prayers are with the family, how anyone can go through this is beyond me.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by Hey Paula


We don't know, for a FACT, that Tara took money from her retirement account.

You also don't know for a FACT she transferred credit card debt to a different card.

See, this is where we don't see eye to eye on so many things.

The same speculative nature on things, but one you will choose to think is fact and the others you choose to say it's speculation.

Whatever BroadwayJoe, Mannequin or myself have said on this forum is all speculative in nature because NONE of us have the ability to prove a single solitary thing we've stated, because there are no "links" to provide.

BUT, you pick and choose what pieces of speculation you want to believe as "fact".

So, while you're talking about the speculation of the retirement account, you've immediately gone into "factual" mode regarding BroadwayJoe's version of events that there was a transfer of credit card debt.

[jond]

IMO, if this withdrawal, transfer, loan, etc. took place it comes back to cash, not checks. To disappear, TG would need a large sum of cash under this theory and a question remains did she clear out all her accounts, checking, saving, IRAs. In this case, Imo, the money is the easiest trail to have followed. I would feel safe to say LE has looked at TG account activity prior to her disappearance. Large withdrawals in the form of cash would be red light. IMO, it would be doubtful TG received a loan check for X thousands and went down to a liquor store and cashed it. IF any of this occurred, I believe LE is aware of its possible significance.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by MATTHEWsevenone


BFD- hope you don't mind, I zero'd in on the horse purchase- found that very interesting.

My family breeds horses, several have horse stables where they board horses, and I have a couple of cousins who competitively ride - most of us have been riding since we could hold the reins.

I have never seen a photo of Tara on a horse. Never seen anything to suggest she was a rider.

From my own personal experience, most novice riders do NOT buy horses. Horses are much like boats, they can be very costly.

So if it is true Tara was in the market for a horse, maybe tells me she most likely was riding. WHERE? How often? There is this supposed DNA that has not been matched? What about who she came into contact with when she was riding?

Did she ride as a child and she finally reached a moment she wanted to buy her own horse? I can see that quite so easily.

Horses are not cheap. There is not just the price of the horse there are also the boarding expenses and the vet costs and transfer costs - it can easily cost more than what she withdrew if it was under $10,000. Tara drove a little car. Most girls or boys who own horses have trucks and trailers! Or they have family or friends who have such equipment. Made me wonder about the black truck again!

If Tara did ride - then the trails/roads she rode obviously need to be checked? And the folks she came into contact with need to be examined. I can't help but wonder if any one has conveniently relocated since Tara disappeared.

One last thought - a wild card - what if the horse she was buying had something to do with her pageant work? maybe she could be in the market for a horse and NOT be a rider at all? What kind of horse was circled? BFD surely your source knows what horse was circled? IMO that is a very important detail. Did she plan to buy a horse to pull a bugey with the winner of the Relay for Life winner? Set her girls apart from the many who rode in cars? Do something with a historical flair? Just speculating of course.

And then there is the other side of the coin - this whole "buying a horse" is a ruse. Why would someone want to start such a rumor? Hope the GBI can get back to the original source of this! I think it may be important. In much the same way as the retirement money rumor goes, it really makes me wonder about the motives of whoever started this stuff if it is false and why anyone would spread it without first making sure it has some truth in it.

The horse thing is easy - a circled ad! What paper, what date? when found? by whom? what kind of horse?
That could be a lead, imo.




:seeya:

You have hit upon the one thing that has intrigued me.

I was originally told that Tara withdrew this money to purchase a horse. Tara told this to someone.

When I start looking into the alleged withdrawal, a family member allegedly stated that it was for the purpose of paying down credit card debt.

And then another person was told it was to pay off her car.

Three different stories, two alleged from Tara's lips to those who heard it. The one regarding the credit card debt is allegedly from a family member.

Out of the blue someone else told me that Tara had circled an ad for a horse for sale. They didn't tell me what paper, the date on the paper or anything else. What was intriguing to me was that it independently corroborated the versi