It's All in a Name

[Phnxbme]

I find it interesting that authorities can question whether Karla has changed or not. If anyone can recall before Paul Bernardo and Holmolka were caught they were in the legal process of having their last names changed. That name just happened to be Teale. The same name that she currently is using in her "new" life. If that doesn't send out a chilly warning I don't know what else would.

[Canadian]

Karla uses a different surname for personal safety. She hopes that it would confuse others if she is publicly recognized. She may have documents containing the fake name in an attempt to confuse others.

Psychos like Karla want to directly distant themselves from their evil-doings, but they desire the indirect attention. They like the attention, but not the attached stigma.

The 3 young girls' names will always be associated with this tragedy. The girls' family names will also carry that association. The families are not only suffering the loss of loved ones but also their identities.

The most disgusting part of all is that when such a tragedy occurs members of society place all of their focus on the evil-doers. The victims are only mentioned to heighten the focus of the evil-doers.

What about the victims? Their time in this life had meanings and purposes. Their time in this life was as important as any other member of society.

The tragedy is what happened to the victims. It was not who the victims were.

Did these 3 young girls die to give infamy to another psycho?

It is time for society to change its attitudes. When it encounters such an evil-doer, take that evil-doers out of mainstream society forever and not talk about that evil-doer. As strange as it may seem, it could result in less evil-doings.

Karla and Paul are in the category of domestic terrorists. Terrorists, of all types, champion their cause by entering the subconscious minds of the members of society.

[northernrflxn]

Originally posted by Phnxbme
I find it interesting that authorities can question whether Karla has changed or not. If anyone can recall before Paul Bernardo and Holmolka were caught they were in the legal process of having their last names changed. That name just happened to be Teale. The same name that she currently is using in her "new" life. If that doesn't send out a chilly warning I don't know what else would.

There's good news, and there's bad news.

The bad news is your theory blows. When Homolka entered the legal system she was tried as Karla Bernardo a.k.a. Karla Teale. She had to pick one of those names to use in prison, because everybody needs a name, right? As Stephen Williams said, "Not surprisingly, she chose the name of a fictional monster." She has attempted to legally change her name from Teale twice since her release, and been turned down by the courts both times.

The good news is that your factless blathering and salacious rumormongering will be very welcome by the majority here! Enjoy!!

[Canadian]

northernrflxn, what the hell is your problem!!!

When I first started posting here I supported your right to post your opinions. Others have that same right without having to read your rude comments.

It is good to have newer posters here and read their opinions on the topic at hand.

You have serious control issues. No sane person is that obsessed with anything. I am beginning to sense that you suffer from a level of mental illness.

Here are a few of my opinions of possibilities.......

1) you know Karla

2) false statements have been made against you in the past

3) you are closely connected to another person who suffered abuse or false statements

4) you have been abused or an abuser

5) you have been convicted of a serious crime

6) you have a physical attraction to Karla

Why would you care what others think about Karla? The more you post here the more you reveal about yourself.

If you want to debate this with me, then, be warned that you will be going against 30 years of studies on humans and human behaviour.

disclaimer: all of the above mentioned is my personal opinion, and not necessarily supported by peers.

[Canadian]

"You two were made for each other. You should get together one day"


It is interesting to note that a number of people feel compel to post regardless of the juvenile nature of their postings.

What is also interesting is that people reveal more about themselves then they realize.

Yes, it is understandable that one could see my comments as being similar to other posters. The difference being that I am attempting to get others to understand their sincere reason for being here and why the content of their postings conflict with itself

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Now, back to the regular programming........

One of the problems, and a significant one, is the attitudes and inabilities of those employed at the penal institutions. Reality dictates that humans are humans regardless of their occupations or education. Reality is that many of those employed at the penal institutions are unstable, reared in a disfunctional environment, or are prejudice towards those they were hired to assist. Many times their so-called qualified advice is influenced by their own weaknesses.

Think about it.......there are many penal institution employees, with mental/emotional/psychological weaknesses, who are expected to assess, advise, and guide the residents of those penal institutions.

Simply put, the penal institution employees go through the motions while being guided by text material.

Is there any wonder why rehabilitation is not progressive?

There is one female employee of a penal institution in Ontario who is out- to- lunch. I had a conversation with her by telephone. Well, I attempted to have a conversation with her. It was obvious that she was mentally unstabled. I could not believe that she was employed there. I came very close to having her investigated.

Elsie posted comments previously on another thread that was disturbing to me. Being involved with observations of penal institutions, I picked up on her wordings and message where most or all of the others would not. In a nutshell, she stated that she allows anyone into her program. If she has any say as to who can or can not enter a program, that in itself is a huge flaw in the system.

This post is long enough...

[Canadian]

Elsie, I do appreciate your honesty in addressing one of my points.

I understand your comments on the inmates re: behaviour/expoitation. Is that not expected from them? They certainly should not behave in that manner nor exploit, however, it relates to their perceptions....

Generally speaking, it is known what the person did to be incarcerated. It is not always known why they did it. IMO, this is what causes many issues between the inmates and staff. The inmates know why they did it and what led them to do it. The staff are told to proceed with the Corrections policies....

One example: the programs implemented by Corrections focuses on what happened to the alleged victim. Yes, the offender needs to realize, if he/she does not already, the full impact the offense had on the victim. What is forgotten are the events that led the offender to commit the offense. Not all cases are cut and dry.

Corrections have to begin to understand the mindset of a number of the inmates. There will be a number of the offenders, and perhaps most, who will see themselves )perhaps subconsciously) as a defender as oppose to an offender. I have observed this in many youth offenders.


It is always difficult to give full explanation on an Internet forum on a topic that one could write a book on. I hope that the brief explanation I placed in this post helps you and others understand that the scope of the problem needs to be broaden.

If the offenders are not fully understood and the proper programs implemented, then rehabilitation is useless. Corrections refusal or unawareness of the depth of the problems will only continue to breed harden criminals placing society at greater risks.

[hockeymomof5]

Originally posted by Canadian
northernrflxn, what the hell is your problem!!!
<snipped>
You have serious control issues. No sane person is that obsessed with anything. I am beginning to sense that you suffer from a level of mental illness.

Here are a few of my opinions of possibilities.......

1) you know Karla

2) false statements have been made against you in the past

3) you are closely connected to another person who suffered abuse or false statements

4) you have been abused or an abuser

5) you have been convicted of a serious crime

6) you have a physical attraction to Karla

disclaimer: all of the above mentioned is my personal opinion, and not necessarily supported by peers.

May I add:

7) you have done something horrible and have used the excuse of your own abuse to free yourself in your own mind.

JMHO

[alvitahoo]

Karla, who the hell is Karla! Where did this blond weirdo come from? I saw this lady on tv today! Her neighbors are all moving out by the handfuls. Why are they moving! Because they're scared of what this psycho will do!

I am outraged that she got to move into an apartment and now almost (2) years later her neighbors know that she is there. There is a lady in my building that told me she has mental problems. That **** is scary as hell! Find out you live next door to Jeffery Dalmer and tell me that it is ok. You're a liar and the truth ain't in you! I am so sick of people that live behind a wall, gated communities and say these murderers, rapist, etc should be let free to live among us, how about next door to you?

Please don't respond. I am venting. This is only my opionion. Don't get offended, wow, it would really make me sick if someone came on this site and defended this psycho! I don't want her living next door to me, I have children.

[hockeymomof5]

Originally posted by alvitahoo
Karla, who the hell is Karla! Where did this blond weirdo come from? I saw this lady on tv today! Her neighbors are all moving out by the handfuls. Why are they moving! Because they're scared of what this psycho will do!

I am outraged that she got to move into an apartment and now almost (2) years later her neighbors know that she is there. There is a lady in my building that told me she has mental problems. That **** is scary as hell! Find out you live next door to Jeffery Dalmer and tell me that it is ok. You're a liar and the truth ain't in you! I am so sick of people that live behind a wall, gated communities and say these murderers, rapist, etc should be let free to live among us, how about next door to you?

Please don't respond. I am venting. This is only my opionion. Don't get offended, wow, it would really make me sick if someone came on this site and defended this psycho! I don't want her living next door to me, I have children.

I was watching the bit about her on Catherine Crier today and what infuriated me was that she hasn't had a job in a year and guess who the heck is supporting her? Yup, folks......she is on welfare so the good folks of Canada are supporting this murderer!!!

[bellebutton]

I personally think that people should just leave her alone at let her live her life. I have read all of the books and I feel sorry for her. I dont think she is a horrible person, just misunderstood. Everyone deserves a second chance I would have no problems living next to her. (poor girl) I hope people can see that she is a good person!!

[henahed]

QUOTE]Originally posted by bellebutton
I personally think that people should just leave her alone at let her live her life. I have read all of the books and I feel sorry for her. I dont think she is a horrible person, just misunderstood. Everyone deserves a second chance I would have no problems living next to her. (poor girl) I hope people can see that she is a good person!! [/QUOTE]

Would you have a problem with your children living next door to her?

[hockeymomof5]

Originally posted by henahed
QUOTE]Originally posted by bellebutton
I personally think that people should just leave her alone at let her live her life. I have read all of the books and I feel sorry for her. I dont think she is a horrible person, just misunderstood. Everyone deserves a second chance I would have no problems living next to her. (poor girl) I hope people can see that she is a good person!!

Would you have a problem with your children living next door to her? [/QUOTE]

ignore the troll bellebutton

[henahed]

2L8 miss marple

[bellebutton]

Honestly no I wouldnt have any problems....People change.....Who are we to judge someone...that is up to GOD not us.....We are suppose to love not hate people!

[singlesix]

Okay, living next door to her wouldn't give you any additional problems and you could sleep at night without worrying.

But would you adopt her?

singlesix

[henahed]

Originally posted by singlesix
Okay, living next door to her wouldn't give you any additional problems and you could sleep at night without worrying.

But would you adopt her?

singlesix


She is maybe stupid enough to think that she has the power to cause problems, but that's only in her foolish imagination and the imagination of others that tolerate her.

Her security walls are about as useful as a wet paper sack, I've been told, and as archaic. The senior citizens have certainly set her up and sustained her, but that's where it ends. They haven't invested in her, she is therefor a sitting duck. If they desired to really seek her out, a couple of high school kids, with a half ounce of technical savi could get the job done real well.

The sad thing in an event like that would be, the distress that would be caused with any small children in the town, they would be the innocent victims.

For that reason it's best left.

JMO & MOO!!

[mnoffki]

My, this is a highly charged message board.

My thoughts, take them or leave them:

I think she should have rotted in prison. I don't care how abused you are, if you are capable of betraying the trust of your own sister, drugging her to rape her (and this without getting into those other victims), then you have no right to live in a free society. Sorry, her husband's "control' is a lame defense for this woman. Then, to accidentally kill your sister after you drug her for...well, rape, and try to get away with it?

I wouldn't want this woman within a mile of me, much less next door.

[2L8 4A D8]

Originally posted by henahed
2L8 miss marple
:lol: Hmmm.............I'm Miss Marple now. WOW!