Ocillians & Local News

[BevAnn]

ok, Oscillian, bnutty, whoever else claims to be from the area - why so cryptic?

I'm from an Arkansas small town - pop. 6,347 (I think) - and trust me, I know the good 'ole boy system. In fact, I am running for political office in my city this election. We've seen fist fights at city council meetings, tons of law suits against city personnel, family retaliation - you name it!! It can get ugly here too.

So, I kind of understand where you all come from...yet, it sounds like, from your various posts, Oscilla is much worse - am I correct? I guess if I lived there, I'd be going as public as possible about these issues. Grabbing every media person I could to let them know what was REALLY happening in this town. I know you guys fear retaliation.....but you know, a woman is missing, and it really does appear something stinks in Oscillian. Surely SOME one higher up in LE is looking into this town and it's police force!

Let me guess, no one will want to answer my post, because they are afraid to. Well, heck. pm me I guess! Or maybe, once Tara is found, and someone is charged with her murder, you guys can come back here and FINALLY explain what you knew all along!

Bev Ann

[benhill29]

I wish I knew something and if I did I would be more than willing to share it with every network anchor person who came along. However, I never meant to make it sound as though I knew more than I had ever stated. I appreciate you as a small town person and never meant to offend any one. Every one always states that one can find corruption and deceitfulness every where....no matter where you call home. I guess when it slaps us in the face each day we seem to forget that others live in small towns too. It is extremely frustrating to feel as though "small" groups control what happens in our area. I know it goes on every where. No offense meant by any of my posts. I truly feel as though no matter how close any one (hired or amatuer) gets to the truth...it will prove futile. Others from my area share my feelings I know. I just seem to be blunt and to the point. Perhaps the reason Tara's family is so upset over LE is that they too know how our little area of the world works. I support Tara's family in their quest for the truth. I just hope that one day there will be justice....as well as closure.

[Bnutty]

BevAnn-
I understand your questions but the problem is that when we (people from the community) try to help on these forums and share certain information that we know to be factual, we are gunned down a large percentage of the time simply b/c so many people on this forum and others in the past want to believe the rumors and gossip, I guess because it is more juicy. There is information (small bits and pieces) about the search and investigation that some of us in this town know about that hasn't been released on the news. If we think that the information should be known and will not damage the investigation, then I think that it should be posted in order to straighten things out. It also hasn't been on the news because it doesn't go along with or support the news bashing of certain "suspects" that AG has been talking about on the news in the past.

[benhill29]

Ocillian..you probably are a good ole boy but I was not referring to that type of good ole boy. I too have lived here my whole life except for when I was fortunate enough to leave and realize that there is a world out there but that is beside the point. I think you add to the message boards Ocillian. I just think we need not wear blinders when it comes to cover-ups, etc. I am not referencing the good old boy network in relation to speeding tickets, etc. I know that there is deep rooted corruption and I have proof of that. I am not pointing the finger at any one except to say....don't be surprised if the person who is guilty never pays for the crime. I have seen it happen and those around our community know what I am talking about.

[Atok]

* wow lots of posts posted while I was working on this reply...


I'll touch the post Bev...

Living in a small town during controversy this deep is like laying in bed with Cottonmouth snakes.

People want to help, but if their proof of fact is direct experience, saying so will implicate them in something or identify them when they wish to remain anonymous. Then they can only reply sort of crypticly or they can't say anything.

Comments target them for recrimations and a magnifying glass focus their personal lives can't handle. Small towns are catty places, little balls of soap opera and the show never goes off the air.

Everything someone says and does will follow them years after this case is resolved. They have to LIVE HERE after things settle down. We outsiders don't.

We need the locals to share the truth whenever it doesn't put their own worlds in jeopardy. Maybe we can have a sentance:

"I can't provide any more verification than my say so, I'm sorry." at which point a reader makes up their own mind about the veracity of the account, they accept it or discount it.

I hope this helps answer some of your questions.

[concernedperson]

I too am originally from a very small town. In Louisiana, does that tell you about corrupt? The network was always the same people and now they are all that is left.Except a pretty run down town with not a good tax base. Most people got tired fighting the system and left.

There is a sticky above about Nancy Grace talking about this case tonight and later doing an in depth piece. I think she got tired of my emails...LOL!

Part of my email campaign has been to Gov. Sonny Perdue. I am asking as a citizen of Georgia to please take a look. I want my state to be as safe and secure as possible in the big cities as well as the small towns. I want criminals prosecuted no matter who they are kin to. I don't want fear to be so pervasive that people can't speak or won't speak. We need to do the right thing and we need to teach our children to do the right thing....and when we do we should expect LE to do the right thing to.

[longcoolwoman]

Originally posted by Bnutty
...
I understand your questions but the problem is that when we (people from the community) try to help on these forums and share certain information that we know to be factual, we are gunned down a large percentage of the time simply b/c so many people on this forum and others in the past want to believe the rumors and gossip, I guess because it is more juicy. ...

I couldn't have said it better myself. :beer:

[Bnutty]

I just dont understand why people wouldn't want to hear the locals' information (the 411 that we are able to give) if the readers and posters are in fact here for the right reasons. I think that what some people have forgotten about is that this is a small town and the people that live here see things and know things that have not been on the news and things that have not been on this forum.
All of the people that read the credible info don't have to believe it, they can let it go thru one ear and out of the other. But when it is posted and we know the truth, we don't like to be accused of lying, protecting certain people, or assisting in some "cover-up".

[BorderCollieMom]

Posters want to believe the locals but its kinda hard to have that trust when so many times over the years on CTV Boards, so-called locals (of any given city/case) give out wrong info. just to stir things up. Please dont be offended of non-locals being cautious and/or asking alot questions about what a local posts. If there is info to post, go ahead and post it....but post the whole scenario/story - not just 2 lines and then do the "I cant say anything else on the matter". If you cant post the WHOLE story - why even bring it up ? Its like a teaser on the news that never pans out. I think that would help the board alot. jmo.

Dont get me wrong, any info is wanted (the whole story) by us NON-locals.....all we have is the media reports. Thats just the way message boards work.
Same goes for "speculating".....tidbits lead non-locals to start posting what they think the rest of story is or means...again, speculating.

As for people posting theories & speculating - thats what this board is about and every other crime board on the net.
Theres nothing wrong with that, imo.

So, unless info posted is confirmed by dna, le, etc......i suppose anything goes and folks can choose to believe the poster or not-----either way ---a poster shouldnt be slammed for making that choice.
1 more thing...imo, all of the namecalling & snide/rude remarks need to stop or this board is doomed like the NH board .

jmo

[Babes]

Originally posted by BorderCollieMom
Posters want to believe the locals but its kinda hard to have that trust when so many times over the years on CTV Boards, so-called locals (of any given city/case) give out wrong info. just to stir things up. Please dont be offended of non-locals being cautious and/or asking alot questions about what a local posts. If there is info to post, go ahead and post it....but post the whole scenario/story - not just 2 lines and then do the "I cant say anything else on the matter". If you cant post the WHOLE story - why even bring it up ? Its like a teaser on the news that never pans out. I think that would help the board alot. jmo.

Dont get me wrong, any info is wanted (the whole story) by us NON-locals.....all we have is the media reports. Thats just the way message boards work.
Same goes for "speculating".....tidbits lead non-locals to start posting what they think the rest of story is or means...again, speculating.

As for people posting theories & speculating - thats what this board is about and every other crime board on the net.
Theres nothing wrong with that, imo.

So, unless info posted is confirmed by dna, le, etc......i suppose anything goes and folks can choose to believe the poster or not-----either way ---a poster shouldnt be slammed for making that choice.
1 more thing...imo, all of the namecalling & snide/rude remarks need to stop or this board is doomed like the NH board .

jmo

100% Agree :beer:

[BevAnn]

Border Collie - couldn't have said it better myself!!

Thanks for the replies guys (with out anyone getting into an argument even! LOL). I have really tried to imagine, if in my small town, this happened, with a member of LE in the lime light, etc...how it would pan out here? I can't say. I like to think, our police force wouldn't be doing things such as squabbling with searchers for going in front of someone's home on a public road! But who knows?

I can say this - we currently have the jr high teacher, who has been arrested for sex with her student. 14 yr old boy. I grew up with her - she was homecoming queen here, Ms. Popular, cheerleader, cute, adorable, etc....worked at our school since she got her degree. She's 37. And I have to say, our LE, our school system, the general pop of our small town is NOT supporting her at ALL. She says it's all made up by this kid, it's lies, etc. and no one is taking her side. I really figured this small town would rally around one of it's own, but they've really shunned her. Her trial is this summer. (in light of yesterday's dropped charges on the other teacher, I fear she may get off too)

Well, sorry for the detour I made there - just an analogy on small town justice!

Bev Ann

[sumter_sue]

Murder expert to speak at Albany State University in Albany


Forensic scientist Henry C. Lee is expected to help draw more than 200 people to a forensic science symposium at Albany State University.

Aaron Bensonhaver -A premier name in forensic science who worked on the O.J. Simpson and JonBenet Ramsey murder cases will be in Albany this week for a forensic science symposium at Albany State University.

Henry Lee, a forensic scientist considered to be among the best in his field, will be the main speaker at a symposium beginning at 1 p.m. today in the ACAD auditorium for investigators, criminologists, police, prosecutors and students.

"He is the best-known face in forensic science in the world," said Charles Ochie, chairman of the school's criminal justice department and forensic science program.

Lee is credited, according to his Web site, with reviewing the John F. Kennedy assassination, war crimes in Bosnia and Croatia, the suicide of former White House attorney Vince Foster and 6,000 cases over the past 40 years.

Ochie said Lee is expected to speak about high profile cases he has worked on over the years.

Ochie and Derrick Gilmore, director of continuing education and an adjunct faculty member in the criminal justice department, said Lee's presence will bring the spotlight to the school's growing forensic science degree program.


Other scheduled speakers at the symposium include Rick Snow of the GBI, Special Agent Tom Brady of Naval Criminal Investigative Services and Greg Edwards, chief assistant district attorney for Dougherty County.


Thought this was an interesting person who may be able to help out with the case.

[IBC]

Read the reply to local on the Hawkinsville post, and you might get some idea why local people are reluctant to post on this board.

[Atok]

I also want to mention that whenever a local tries to post something, off the narrow theory they get grilled to the point of others trying to make them identify themselves.

This is very wrong.

People do not have to give out who their neighbor is, how far they live from the victim or a POI, what age they are, what car they drive... personal information that can be used for identifying a poster is uncalled for.

I also find it abhorrent that people try to pull off the veil of anonyminity by naming out who they think a poster is. This results in denial (narrowing the options of who it really is) or an invasion of privacy making them and anyone else UNWILLING to share info.

People need anonyminity to be able to speak. This board is useless without information from locals be it truth or deception.

It's invaluable, why squelch it??

[longcoolwoman]

My hat's off to you, Atok. :beer:

[concernedperson]

Regardless,I think people try to stay away from posts that disqualify or qualify. I also think that we are not alone in coming very close.I really think this is very close.

[cpettis]

:shrug: Wonder how Dr. Godwin came up with his time frame?
Interesting that the info about HD being at the house is just now being made public. There are a number of ponds and deeply wooded areas along Green Rd. and a lot of good people live in that part of Irwin County. Honest people that would have no part of a crime such as this. I do not know any of the principal parties discussed on these boards personally but I do have an interest in seeing this come to a conclusion for the sake of all involved. I fear there is only justice left for Tara. I pray I am wrong.

[benhill29]

I researched HD on some websites tonight and I found an article that quoted him in the very beginning as saying they had been long time friends from school and that he had not seen her for several weeks. He didn't mention in the article while being interviewed that he had even been at Tara's house looking for her. I am just throwing that out there because now we learn so much about him but he never let on that he had even been there....IMO that is strange. Also, GBI was listed on one of the websites as being headquartered in Perry, which is where he works with LE as well. It may be absolutely nothing but it would be nice to know why all of a sudden it comes out that he was there at her house calling Miss Faye?????

[BorderCollieMom]

Originally posted by Ocillian
"so-called locals (of any given city/case) give out wrong info. just to stir things up."

I will assure you that is not my intentions here.


I said of any given case/city - i did NOT say YOU !

[BorderCollieMom]

Originally posted by Atok
I also want to mention that whenever a local tries to post something, off the narrow theory they get grilled to the point of others trying to make them identify themselves.

This is very wrong.

People do not have to give out who their neighbor is, how far they live from the victim or a POI, what age they are, what car they drive... personal information that can be used for identifying a poster is uncalled for.

I also find it abhorrent that people try to pull off the veil of anonyminity by naming out who they think a poster is. This results in denial (narrowing the options of who it really is) or an invasion of privacy making them and anyone else UNWILLING to share info.

People need anonyminity to be able to speak. This board is useless without information from locals be it truth or deception.

It's invaluable, why squelch it??


This board needs FACTS backed up with proof just like every board on CTV, imo.
Or, locals need to tell the whole story or nothing at all.
Locals should expect to be asked many questions - from where you get your hair done - to - how far are you from blah blah blah......

Lets turn the tables. Lets say I come on this board and say Im a local and have lived there for years, i'm married to a cop, Tara & I have been best friends since BIRTH and the last time I saw her was right before she vanished............. AND , she was being followed by a red head guy that I went to elem. school with, his daddy is a lawyer. He had something in his hand .......
BUT, """I cant give anymore details"""".

See how that works ? Its very hard when people dont post the whole story.

I've neem on these boards (and others) long enough to know how they work).....and this one isnt working.

Just My Opinion.

[BorderCollieMom]

Originally posted by benhill29
I researched HD on some websites tonight and I found an article that quoted him in the very beginning as saying they had been long time friends from school and that he had not seen her for several weeks. He didn't mention in the article while being interviewed that he had even been at Tara's house looking for her. I am just throwing that out there because now we learn so much about him but he never let on that he had even been there....IMO that is strange. Also, GBI was listed on one of the websites as being headquartered in Perry, which is where he works with LE as well. It may be absolutely nothing but it would be nice to know why all of a sudden it comes out that he was there at her house calling Miss Faye?????

Can we get a link to this info please ? Links to articles dont contain CTV posters' "opinions".
tia

[benhill29]

Originally posted by BorderCollieMom


Can we get a link to this info please ? Links to articles dont contain CTV posters' "opinions".
tia
http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/1105/0303_tara_grinstead_no_clues.html

[jela72]

Thank YOU, Ben!!! :seeya:

This HD guy's actions have irked me from the beginning and I wasn't aware he'd 'shut up' earlier and not mentioned this. There's a vibe there - and he has not been straight since the getgo. I feel it in my bones, Jones!

In fact, short of stretching into my puter frame, lol, so irked was I by this chap & after reading everyone's 'all night' post-sessions, I was compelled to register and call attention to MY views on HD.

His deviant nature starts with the affair itself. Then ... when I read how 'close' he was/is supposed to be to Tara's family members - why it bordered disgust. A lying cheat.

And an angry, rejected, dumped or possessive lying-cheat can be lethal. We've seen it a million times.

The above is all my own opinion, but having read Ben's further great sleuthin skills - well: my opinion is endorsed!

TY again, Ben...

Jel



Originally posted by benhill29
I researched HD on some websites tonight and I found an article that quoted him in the very beginning as saying they had been long time friends from school and that he had not seen her for several weeks. He didn't mention in the article while being interviewed that he had even been at Tara's house looking for her. I am just throwing that out there because now we learn so much about him but he never let on that he had even been there....IMO that is strange. Also, GBI was listed on one of the websites as being headquartered in Perry, which is where he works with LE as well. It may be absolutely nothing but it would be nice to know why all of a sudden it comes out that he was there at her house calling Miss Faye?????

[jela72]

Just for the record:

In my previous post, I wrote:

<<< And an angry, rejected, dumped or possessive lying-cheat can be lethal. We've seen it a million times. >>>

Just to clarify I am not calling HD this. Just my views regarding 'cheats'. And most trouble starts when the bounds of marriage are broken and one wants out. (In a snapshot, that is.)

[The R]

Ok...now I'm totally confused....here's a quote from the CL article link that Ben provided....

"A few days later, ****s, a policeman from nearby Perry and long-time friend of both Grinstead and her family, a confidant whom she had recently been dating turned up in Ocilla. She left school early. That too was unusual for the highly devoted and motivated eleventh-grade teacher"

Does this say that she was dating ****s or am I wrong on this?? Is this the same guy that is reported to be married with kids in Perry?

Somebody help.......
:confused:

[jela72]

By all accounts and according to reports, one and the same. He was having an affair with Tara.

[goldylocks]

I'm not real sure if this is the thread to put my question on but i will give it a try. i was hoping if someone could help me with the question of durning the cookout that Tara was seen outside sitting on the curb talking to a person, it seems that i read that info from somewhere if this is true and anyone else remembers reading this i would like to if this was rumor or true.thank you

[shelock]

A poster previously pointed out that "one friend" gave out this info. Did "one friend" work at the school and assume HD was more than a friend?
"In fact, in mid-October, one friend said, Grinstead had made efforts to reconnect with Harper, and when he resisted, she became so overwrought that she took a long drive and had to pull over and call for assistance to get home. The next day, uncharacteristically, she called in sick to school. A few days later, ****s, a policeman from nearby Perry and long-time friend of both Grinstead and her family, a confidant whom she had recently been dating turned up in Ocilla. She left school early. That too was unusual for the highly devoted and motivated eleventh-grade teacher."

[4ANGELS]

Originally posted by Sassy


You go Girl:beer:

[Former Juror]

I don't know who did this, but I have a very strong feeling some Ocilla locals are going to be very surprised.

IMOOC

[Designer]

Tara's Angels, too?:D

[jela72]

Bwahahahaaaaaaa - Oh, God - forgive me but this is hysterical. Lord, is there paranoia out there or WHAT? On my first post on this forum I stated "I live far away from you all".

Read back: I said had NOT posted on a forum since the Peterson verdict - I opted to get a life. That's true.

And I also stated that I've experienced a similar personal loss and through that awful experience, I've followed mysteries, crimes and trial for years, now. I learnt the meaning of logic and it took half a lifetime to accept that meaning, believe in circumstances and communicate my thoughts. OK?

You sent me a great, warm, welcoming pm, Sassy, agreeing with some of my points and confirming ??? over HD. Was that pm a 'ploy' to warm up to me? Because, me darlin Sassy-girl, I don't even live in the USA!!!

When I fluffed up about the timeline, I was the first to post my errors and apologize.

At ALL times I have emphasized that my posts are MY PERSONAL OPINION & SPECULATIVE VIEWS.

Gosh, is there really a 'click' out there or WHAT? I didn't know there was some kind of 'entrance qualification' to post here. I believe in freedom of speech, too, y'know.

What a welcome - I had to roar laughing when Atok commented about the thick skin; and I saw what benhill went through before passing Muster Parade.

Let me end with this: I PERSONALLY HAPPEN TO BELIEVE HD IS SOMEHOW INVOLVED. OK? There. Roast it, fry it, grill it or freeze it - but those are my thoughts and my views and I'm sharing 'em with you all. (If the affair's a lie, then I go by the 'no smoke/no fire theory' until proven otherwise).

Wow, Sassy. I should have applied logic to your pm, the first sent to me ... and realize now you probably gathered up your internal 'folk' to flush out my 'motive'.

YOU are the offender, methinks, when it comes to honesty in co-posting and pm-ing.

Geeeeez.


Originally posted by Sassy
Jela72....just curious.....we have not seen you on the boards before......actually none of the past five boards concerning this issue...... why now, do you show up.....apparently you are part of the MH "Damage Control Squad" to shift the heat to HD...the other night "the Squad" attacked LG and when those rumors were shot down the focus is now HD.......nice tactic.....but we in the know do not buy it......JUST MY HONEST OPINION......

[4ANGELS]

Originally posted by Designer
Tara's Angels, too?:D

Sure:seeya:

[Designer]

Originally posted by 4ANGELS


Sure:seeya:

Thanks! I'll be Jacqueline Smith!;)

[4ANGELS]

Originally posted by jela72
Bwahahahaaaaaaa - Oh, God - forgive me but this is hysterical. Lord, is there paranoia out there or WHAT? On my first post on this forum I stated "I live far away from you all".

Read back: I said had NOT posted on a forum since the Peterson verdict - I opted to get a life. That's true.

And I also stated that I've experienced a similar personal loss and through that awful experience, I've followed mysteries, crimes and trial for years, now. I learnt the meaning of logic and it took half a lifetime to accept that meaning, believe in circumstances and communicate my thoughts. OK?

You sent me a great, warm, welcoming pm, Sassy, agreeing with some of my points and confirming ??? over HD. Was that pm a 'ploy' to warm up to me? Because, me darlin Sassy-girl, I don't even live in the USA!!!

When I fluffed up about the timeline, I was the first to post my errors and apologize.

At ALL times I have emphasized that my posts are MY PERSONAL OPINION & SPECULATIVE VIEWS.

Gosh, is there really a 'click' out there or WHAT? I didn't know there was some kind of 'entrance qualification' to post here. I believe in freedom of speech, too, y'know.

What a welcome - I had to roar laughing when Atok commented about the thick skin; and I saw what benhill went through before passing Muster Parade.

Let me end with this: I PERSONALLY HAPPEN TO BELIEVE HD IS SOMEHOW INVOLVED. OK? There. Roast it, fry it, grill it or freeze it - but those are my thoughts and my views and I'm sharing 'em with you all. (If the affair's a lie, then I go by the 'no smoke/no fire theory' until proven otherwise).

Wow, Sassy. I should have applied logic to your pm, the first sent to me ... and realize now you probably gathered up your internal 'folk' to flush out my 'motive'.

YOU are the offender, methinks, when it comes to honesty in co-posting and pm-ing.

Geeeeez.


:lol: Sassy is not the offender.

[4ANGELS]

Originally posted by Designer


Thanks! I'll be Jacqueline Smith!;)
Great who should I be lol. People dont take offense please we all need a little bit of laughing during this difficult time.:D

[jela72]

General... You're a decent person, Sir. (Or sirette - the gender does not worry me - but your grace, neutral stance and integrity warms me.)

...Damage control! Pah! As IF I'd ever place such meagre value on myself....


Originally posted by GeneralLee
Which damage control squad are you on?

I thing we all have a right to be on whichever side of the fence we so choose.

Some of us are objective and open about looking at everyone.
Some are friends of POI's and are naturally doing what they feel to help their friend.
Some are family of POI's and are naturally doing what they feel will help their family member, and so on.

It's fine to be on one "team" or another here, but why be so rude to the ones who are here for whatever their personal reason is?
I don't think it's nice to accuse anyone of being on a "squad" unless you are ready to admit which one you are on yourself and why. (No need to post your answer, really. Just making a point.)

Nothing personal, just an observation.

[4ANGELS]

Originally posted by Sassy
Opinions change quickly.....don't they.....!!!

They sure do Sassy.

[BorderCollieMom]

Originally posted by benhill29

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/1105/0303_tara_grinstead_no_clues.html

Thank you Benhill29 !!!!

[jela72]

4Angels, irrespective of whomsoever the 'offender' might be, I replied to the following post where Sassy claimed to be among those 'in the (ehem) know' and stated I was 'apparently' part of some Damage Control Squad to shift focus of MH.

Lawd. Maybe MH committed this crime - does anyone *know* he did? Sometimes and most often, it looks that way - that's true.

However, I happen to find HD's manoevres over the weekend in question seemingly suspicious - and believed I joined a forum where all angles are fleshed out. The man called Tara 20 times and was right outside Tara's house after midnight, Sunday (and before she was even determined missing) having traveled there from Perry. At that stage he was the only person who, through phone records, was placed directly at the scene.

But he doesn't call the authorities once during all of this? Why? If he was as 'serious' as he was when he went to the school and got Tara out of class, then why the hell didn't he adopt the same attitude and get her out of her house?

No. But, he's such a close friend yet decides to drive home instead of breaking down the front door of his dear, close friends' daughter's home? In light of earlier and previous 'real dangers' that was allegedly made know to him - and that he was apparently known to be privvy to?

A few articles stated their affair, as did posters 'in the know' on this very board. If indeed an affair was going on, and that's all he's hiding - then the man's in the wrong profession, IMO. Because when a life is at stake - the plugs come out on everything!

It's the price paid for illicit dalliance - if such escapades were going on.



Originally posted by Sassy
Jela72....just curious.....we have not seen you on the boards before......actually none of the past five boards concerning this issue...... why now, do you show up.....apparently you are part of the MH "Damage Control Squad" to shift the heat to HD...the other night "the Squad" attacked LG and when those rumors were shot down the focus is now HD.......nice tactic.....but we in the know do not buy it......JUST MY HONEST OPINION......

[BorderCollieMom]

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Originally posted by jela72
Bwahahahaaaaaaa - Oh, God - forgive me but this is hysterical. Lord, is there paranoia out there or WHAT? On my first post on this forum I stated "I live far away from you all".
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____

Its VERY obvious the locals are "paranoid" at times - especially when it comes to answering general questions and telling the "whole story", not just TIDBITS.

There are many here that DO NOT live close....so when you say "you all" , you are mistaken.

lmao @ "changing minds" posts ! Uh yea, that obvious, lol..

Regarding "living in a small town" and "the DRAMA & PARANOIA" in those towns.. Ive held back with my opinion on this. BUT,
In my opinion, a large percentage of that is crap. I have lived in several small towns and yes, small towns have all the drama that would make "Desperate Housewifes" look like nothing.

What I dont understand is why are locals , in any given small town so paranoid ? So scared to "tell it like it is" , so scared to tell THE WHOLE STORY ?
The small towns i lived in reported cops for doing dope .... Yea , alot of folks got threats (lmao) but who cares.
In the towns I lived in, "THE PEOPLE" MADE THE TRUTH KNOWN !
Anyways, who the heck would even want to live in a town like taras town is made out to be ?


*******All my opinion

[BorderCollieMom]

Originally posted by Sassy
Opinions change quickly.....don't they.....!!!

Never leaned toward HD....never....

We can't be certain who to trust, though, can we!! ;O)

:beer: As a fence sitter until the FACTS are in and CONFIRMED, I dont lean at all ...... I might fall off the fence. lol

[jela72]

And that's a very cool and honest opinion, BorderCollieMom (says another mom here to the sweetest cocker-spaniel on Earth...).

Stepping back: sorry about the 'you all' if that sounded derogatory. It was definitely not meant to be as I meant 'I live far away from everyone' (you all being general) ... IOW ... far away from USA.

Anyways, a couple of nights ago one poster regularly referred to an 'Old Boy' type practice in this town, or something like that. I'm beginning to see how that fits in, LOL.

Begs the question: If I knew my son or dau was involved in ANY way in something as critical as this, even if I had Bill Gates' money, or the Queen of England's connections - I hardly think I'd be part of a 'cover-up' or a 'kiss and don't tell' process. If my job and livlihood was on the line and I knew 'something', then God knows, I'd not be able to live with myself in shutting up and turning a blind eye.

That's all ... Not 'you all', LOL :)

[suzee]

I saw MH search with my own eyes along with his entire family. You may not have seen them, but I was there. He payed for his own helicopter and it was not JH. I was there when the helicopter landed. He was at the center many times until he along was asked not to come back. I don't mean for the words to sound harsh, but what you said was not true and maybe you were just confused. Hope this helps before more rumors get started.

[suzee]

The GBI did not ask him to leave. AG sent message that she did not want him there and out of respect for Tara and her family, MH did not go back to the center, but contiued to search.

[sumter_sue]

Maybe HD was trying to contact Tara to let her know his wife found out about them. Maybe the wife was going to cause problems for HD at work or maybe at Tara's work.

[Atok]

Clipped by Atok
Originally posted by Sassy

On the night of her disappearance, students, teachers, locals got together to search and hand out flyers:
JH REFUSED A FLYER FROM ONE AND REMARKED "THEY WILL NEVER FIND THAT GIRL".
Three witnesses to this statement.

Sassy, I heard this once before, early on and I can't find the source. Can you bring any stronger validation to the fact that JH really refused a flyer and said that sentance?

Was your answer "the witnesses told me this" what you have at this point concerning this detail or did that refer to the other part of the post?

[Atok]

Got it.

Thank you Sassy.

[benhill29]

Originally posted by suzee
The GBI did not ask him to leave. AG sent message that she did not want him there and out of respect for Tara and her family, MH did not go back to the center, but contiued to search.
I wouldn't call it out of respect. In my opinion I don't believe he went back probaly because TP and his daddy probably told him to stay away....Let's not go insinuating that respect was involved. If respect were involved the MH family would be sending out invites to people to come and search high and low..wouldn't they?

[longcoolwoman]

Originally posted by benhill29

I wouldn't call it out of respect. In my opinion I don't believe he went back probaly because TP and his daddy probably told him to stay away....Let's not go insinuating that respect was involved. If respect were involved the MH family would be sending out invites to people to come and search high and low..wouldn't they?

I was told by the MH family that they were asked to stay away from the Tara Center.

[cpettis]

:shrug: In response to Sassy's comment about not hindering the investigation, my question is What Investigation? Keeping certain details confidential is one thing, but keeping an entire investigation secret is questionable.... Why the secrecy?:confused:

[concernedperson]

Originally posted by cpettis
:shrug: In response to Sassy's comment about not hindering the investigation, my question is What Investigation? Keeping certain details confidential is one thing, but keeping an entire investigation secret is questionable.... Why the secrecy?:confused:

Cover up? It is obvious to me anyway. They are more than likely protecting something stupid like pot fields. And to think that someone was murdered and they would protect a killer is just putrid.

[mooloo]

Why would an affair cause problems for eithe rof them at work? Wouldn't be the first time an le or a teacher had had an affair. watch the newss

Originally posted by sumter_sue
Maybe HD was trying to contact Tara to let her know his wife found out about them. Maybe the wife was going to cause problems for HD at work or maybe at Tara's work.

[luvmy2labpups]

To the waters, I am starting this thread in the hope it does not get merged with any other so that we can have honest and open discussion in regard to all the people in Tara's life.

Can anyone tell me does LG own a black truck? Did he own a black truck at the time of Tara's disappearance? This has recently started circulating and either it is rumor or fact. Can anybody verify?

Where have BG & CG gone?

Where has FG gone?

Where has all of TG's other relatives gone? (other than LG & AG)

Does the family know people are claiming to speak for them on this message board? If so, are they in agreement with what is being posted?

What other side of the family was LG referring to? What private investigator was he talking about?

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:ifM0JATYH7oJ:www.courtnetonline.bra vehost.com/taragrinstead1.html+%22anita+gattis%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=102

LARRY GATTIS: The WHOLE thing. That was 90% of the questioning and harassment that day was the supposed affair I had with Tara, and anybody that’s been close to our family, or Tara, or anyone in town knows that’s totally ridiculous, I've don't go to that town very frequently at all. Me and Tara communicated by e-mails a lot and the GBI had all the e-mails that were strictly appropriate, very relative type stuff. So they knew that was ridiculous to start with. It actually got started by, we are not absolutely certain by a rumor from a private investigator that was working with the other side of the family. He has since been terminated. You know, the tragedy is that Tara's gone...


I have many more questions and would appreciate not having this merged.

[fsbiii]

I don't know where to post what any more. Is the black truck thread merged with the "Possible Crime Scene" thread?
This is utterly confusing. Maybe that's the point. Thank goodness for the cache.

IMO, LG was talking about Trackers Global and its recovery agent, Hardiman. Hardiman had info posted on this very site saying he was not fired. The Grinsteads also posted a thank you note to Hardiman on the TrackersGlobal website after this interview LG gave about him being fired.

[NancynNC]

I agree with you Fsbiii, it is so confusing and hard to find anything.

I think you are so right on the private investigator too. CTV posted that he was not fired, so LG must be talking about him, or why respond??

[fsbiii]

After LG's statement that the pi was fired, the Grinstead's posted this on the pi's website. Obviously LG was wrong or just wishful thinking since the pi must've uncovered something unbecoming about LG, perhaps? His own words imply as much.

"We have been working with Trackers Global since Tara first disappeared in Oct 2005. We still don't know where she is or what happend to her. We are realistic and know what the statistics are about finding Tara alive, but as long as we have not found her, we cling to that tiny glimmer of hope. We believe in Trackers Global and support Robert in his endeavor to provide this much needed service to any family with a missing loved one and we appreciate his continued efforts to search for our loved one.
Billy and Connie Grinstead
(Tara's Dad & Stepmom)"

Originally posted by NancynNC
I agree with you Fsbiii, it is so confusing and hard to find anything.

I think you are so right on the private investigator too. CTV posted that he was not fired, so LG must be talking about him, or why respond??

[luvmy2labpups]

Originally posted by fsbiii
I don't know where to post what any more. Is the black truck thread merged with the "Possible Crime Scene" thread?
This is utterly confusing. Maybe that's the point. Thank goodness for the cache.

IMO, LG was talking about Trackers Global and its recovery agent, Hardiman. Hardiman had info posted on this very site saying he was not fired. The Grinsteads also posted a thank you note to Hardiman on the TrackersGlobal website after this interview LG gave about him being fired. Thanks FSB, so someone hired by the family thought this in regard to TG and LG?

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by fsbiii
I don't know where to post what any more. Is the black truck thread merged with the "Possible Crime Scene" thread?
This is utterly confusing. Maybe that's the point. Thank goodness for the cache.

IMO, LG was talking about Trackers Global and its recovery agent, Hardiman. Hardiman had info posted on this very site saying he was not fired. The Grinsteads also posted a thank you note to Hardiman on the TrackersGlobal website after this interview LG gave about him being fired.

It's an attempt to micromanage something that is an unknown. It never works.

[fsbiii]

Obviously "the family" is a term used too often and loosely on these boards. LG himself phrased it "the other side of the family," and he's referring to Tara's dad. TrGl also said they were non-profit at some point after their work w/Tara's case began; not sure if it started off non-profit or not, so I don't know about the "hiring" part of your question.

I'd like to know exactly what TrGl discovered to make LG think they relayed info on this topic to GBI to get the polygraph maching going. He says anyone close to Tara or the family would know it was ridiculous, but apparently TrGl found something somewhere from someone.

Originally posted by luvmy2labpups
Thanks FSB, so someone hired by the family thought this in regard to TG and LG?

[NancynNC]

We do not know what Hardiman thought. I have not seen any public statements from him. The GBI have interviewed so many people in this case, it may have come from several people. If it was the PI who put it out to the GBI, he had to get it from somewhere.

[fsbiii]

For the record: I tend to think Tara's dad is more "family" than Tara's brother in law, IMO. But then again, Larry Gattis did say:

"I can't say we've lost her, I mean it looks that way, but I've sort of adopted Tara as my sister, she was 14 when I met Anita, and we were always really close. She didn't have a dad, and I have a sister but we don't maintain contact, and thats another story but, Tara was always like a sister to me."

[luvmy2labpups]

Originally posted by fsbiii
Obviously "the family" is a term used too often and loosely on these boards. LG himself phrased it "the other side of the family," and he's referring to Tara's dad. TrGl also said they were non-profit at some point after their work w/Tara's case began; not sure if it started off non-profit or not, so I don't know about the "hiring" part of your question.

I'd like to know exactly what TrGl discovered to make LG think they relayed info on this topic to GBI to get the polygraph maching going. He says anyone close to Tara or the family would know it was ridiculous, but apparently TrGl found something somewhere from someone.

Strange! I would like to know that myself.

[grandline]

Originally posted by fsbiii
For the record: I tend to think Tara's dad is more "family" than Tara's brother in law, IMO. But then again, Larry Gattis did say:

"I can't say we've lost her, I mean it looks that way, but I've sort of adopted Tara as my sister, she was 14 when I met Anita, and we were always really close. She didn't have a dad, and I have a sister but we don't maintain contact, and thats another story but, Tara was always like a sister to me."

Goodness, I wonder if BG thinks his daughter didn't have a dad? :(

[luvmy2labpups]

Originally posted by fsbiii
For the record: I tend to think Tara's dad is more "family" than Tara's brother in law, IMO. But then again, Larry Gattis did say:

"I can't say we've lost her, I mean it looks that way, but I've sort of adopted Tara as my sister, she was 14 when I met Anita, and we were always really close. She didn't have a dad, and I have a sister but we don't maintain contact, and thats another story but, Tara was always like a sister to me." Why would he say such a mean thing? That is just awful.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by MATTHEWsevenone


fsbiii,

Sorry I can't seem to open the first link you provided. Not sure where the interview appeared and who wrote it. And this post I don't know exactly where this quote came from. Is it from the same article? Could you try to link again?

I hate what this board has become. Sorry to have to ask.


** correction, the first link was luvs.
:seeya:

http://www.courtnetonline.bravehost.com/taragrinstead1.html

It's in this article.

[grandline]

Maybe this will work?

http://www.courtnetonline.bravehost.com/taragrinstead1.html (www.courtnetonline.bravehost.com/taragrinstead1.html)

[MakeSomeNoise]

I would interpret "Tara didn't have a dad" to mean she "didn't have a dad that lived in the home", not that she literally DIDN'T HAVE A DAD. Didn't her mother divorce her dad many years ago? Or maybe he wasn't home much. Who knows-- just a thought.

[concernedperson]

Originally posted by MATTHEWsevenone
http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?threadid=254732&highlight=tara+didnt+have+a+dad

This was a post that some poster named MHayguard whom I guess is in reality a man by the name of Larry Harriet. This man it is alleged in this thread to have his own website and he came to CourtTV and posted this interview he supposedly di with LG.

So the fundamental questions are WHO THE HECK IS LARRY HARRIET and what sort of journalistic creditials does he have? Is he creditible? Did this interview appear outside cyberspace? Is he connected to anyone in this case and why did he feel compelled to come to CTV site and prerelease his interview?

I don't know, has anyone done any research on this guy?

Just curious.

:seeya:

If you really read the interview between the two Larry's you can see that Larry Harriet is not a seasoned journalist. I think his website is more akin to a blog. The interview seems more of an opportunity for Larry Gattis to tell his version of events than a true investigative piece.JMO.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by MATTHEWsevenone
Apparently this INTERVIEW only aired- if that is the correct term- on some website created solely by the author. Actually the author uploaded all to a self created website on a free webhosting service called BRAVENET. As far as I can tell so far that network is owned by someone in British Columbia Canada.

Anyone find any journalism degree or creditials at all for Larry Harriet? There is no audio stream with this 'interview' so all we have to go on is what this Larry Harriet claims...


HUMMMMMMMMMMM.


:seeya:

So, you think this guy just made up an interview with Larry Gattis? Out of the blue? Just decided to make up a complete dialogue between him and Larry Gattis and then post it to the world wide web for all to see.

Ummm.... sure.

I doens't matter if the guy has a journalism degree or not. What a simpleminded approach. Larry Gattis' words are what's important. Who cares who asked the questions (even though they were crappy questions and solely geared towards Gattis having the ability to say what he wanted to say)?

Sometimes you've got to get out of the weeds to pay attention to what's going on above you.

[MakeSomeNoise]

Originally posted by MATTHEWsevenone


That makes ZERO sense to me since Tara LIVED WITH HER DAD for many years in Ocilla. Six years right? She begain teaching at Irwin High around 1997 and she lived with her dad on W. Henderson. In Feb.2003, she moved to her little rental house on W Park when her dad Billy and his second wife Connie moved to Alabama. There are also photos of Tara graduating showing her with her dad. Obviously the two were not estranged.

Anyone in the family would know this. Obviously Tara and her dad were close enough for her to LIVE WITH HIM for at the very least 6 years. And it should be noted he invited her into his home when Tara was an adult, this had nothing to do with court ordered arrangements.

Could this quote referenced to belong to Larry Gaddis really show that Larry Harriet goofed?

This guy - Larry Harriet- initially came here and claimed he would be doing an interview with Anita and Larry right? Didn't he ask for people to email him with questions? OOPS. another place for a poster to give up information to some unknown thrid party, in my estimation...

Could we all have been taken in by someone whose motives had nothing to do with this case particularly but who used this missing person case to gather inform from others?

Just wondering. Pure speculation on my part.

Consider me the resident cynic when it comes to other forums or websites.

Maybe this is off topic of sorts - in a day and age of identity theft and all sorts of trolling online for personal information, we each must be careful where we go to discuss and whom we trust before we give up our email addresses.

MOO.

:seeya:

Good point. That makes better sense to me. I didn't know she had lived with her dad later, etc. so thanks for clearing that up.

[grandline]

Originally posted by MATTHEWsevenone



This guy - Larry Harriet- initially came here and claimed he would be doing an interview with Anita and Larry right? Didn't he ask for people to email him with questions?



You are correct. He did start threads here and on another Tara forum soliciting questions for his interviews.

[kbrown]

Originally posted by fsbiii
I don't know where to post what any more. Is the black truck thread merged with the "Possible Crime Scene" thread?
This is utterly confusing. Maybe that's the point. Thank goodness for the cache.

IMO, LG was talking about Trackers Global and its recovery agent, Hardiman. Hardiman had info posted on this very site saying he was not fired. The Grinsteads also posted a thank you note to Hardiman on the TrackersGlobal website after this interview LG gave about him being fired.


As it was explained to me BG had told AG and LGg that he was letting RH go in late Jan. CG talked him out of it apparently some weeks later. I am now hearing that he is not working the case. I had an e-mail addy for RH at one time, but it no longer works. An e-mail last week got returned that went to the old addy.

[kbrown]

Originally posted by MakeSomeNoise


Good point. That makes better sense to me. I didn't know she had lived with her dad later, etc. so thanks for clearing that up.

Tara did her student teaching in Spring of 1998 and moved in with her dad and step mother. She moved in permanently when she accepted a fulltime position that summer at ICHS. Tara signed the lease on her home Aug 2002 and had lived ther until she disappeared. She moved out of her Dad's BEFORE he left Ocilla..

[concernedperson]

Originally posted by kbrown



As it was explained to me BG had told AG and LGg that he was letting RH go in late Jan. CG talked him out of it apparently some weeks later. I am now hearing that he is not working the case. I had an e-mail addy for RH at one time, but it no longer works. An e-mail last week got returned that went to the old addy.

This is from Trackers Global website. Nothing updated in your timeframe.

http://www.trackersglobal.com/

[kbrown]

Originally posted by concernedperson


This is from Trackers Global website. Nothing updated in your timeframe.

http://www.trackersglobal.com/


I did not get my information from that web site. I got it from being in the same building in January when the conversation took place.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by kbrown



I did not get my information from that web site. I got it from being in the same building in January when the conversation took place.

How does 4 weeks worth of information get told before it's time?

You "heard" this in January, but yet you're talking about some information that occurred in February.

You wouldn't be pulling our proverbial leg now, would you?

[kbrown]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


How does 4 weeks worth of information get told before it's time?

You "heard" this in January, but yet you're talking about some information that occurred in February.

You wouldn't be pulling our proverbial leg now, would you?

Ok let me try again. The conversation between BG, Ag and LG occurred in toward the end January. Sometimes in Feb CG talked BG into keeping RH on the case. I am not pulling your leg, just telling what happened. Now can I ask a question? What time zone is this board in? It shows it is 1:42am on July 7 on my computer for this site. At my house, it is 8:42pm on July 6. :shrug:

[kys]

Originally posted by fsbiii
For the record: I tend to think Tara's dad is more "family" than Tara's brother in law, IMO. But then again, Larry Gattis did say:

"I can't say we've lost her, I mean it looks that way, but I've sort of adopted Tara as my sister, she was 14 when I met Anita, and we were always really close. She didn't have a dad, and I have a sister but we don't maintain contact, and thats another story but, Tara was always like a sister to me."


This is a statement LG made that I have never understood......Why would LG say that Tara didn't have a dad?? When plainly she does....Alot of things AG and LG have stated about this investigation makes absolutely no sense, but this one is very weird...IMO

Allso, IIRC didn't LG state that he and Tara went shopping together at times??? If so, where did they shop at?

[MakeSomeNoise]

Originally posted by kys



This is a statement LG made that I have never understood......Why would LG say that Tara didn't have a dad?? When plainly she does....Alot of things AG and LG have stated about this investigation makes absolutely no sense, but this one is very weird...IMO

Allso, IIRC didn't LG state that he and Tara went shopping together at times??? If so, where did they shop at?

I have no idea about the shopping question, but the other question about the dad is addressed previously either on this thread or another, re: a possible misquote by Larry Harriet, the writer or just a possible expression meaning he wasn't home much or whatever.

[concernedperson]

It just seems like a retraction would be due from Larry Harriet if he misquoted or an explanation from LG would be appropriate for this comment. Mr. Grinstead deserves to be acknowledged for who he is....Tara's father. I believe Mr. Grinstead is suffering enough without having his parental acknowledgement stripped or displaced.

[MakeSomeNoise]

Originally posted by concernedperson
It just seems like a retraction would be due from Larry Harriet if he misquoted or an explanation from LG would be appropriate for this comment. Mr. Grinstead deserves to be acknowledged for who he is....Tara's father. I believe Mr. Grinstead is suffering enough without having his parental acknowledgement stripped or displaced.
Perhaps a phone call to either one of the Larry's would get the retraction or explanation you seek. Just talking about it on a forum doesn't mean they know about it.

[concernedperson]

Originally posted by Freshwater
OK I see where you are going here. It is a discussion about the Tara's intimates and associates and so to not confuse new posters let's change it and remove the initials. Sound fair?


FH20

Thank you maam. It is way past time to really discuss this case.No initials and just truth. Let a lot of people speak their minds and not buy into anything else or be manipulated. Tara is why we are here and Tara is the one who needs justice. Even GBI said this is a solvable case.Someone has to be truthful.

[kelloggirl]

That makes ZERO sense to me since Tara LIVED WITH HER DAD for many years in Ocilla. Six years right? She begain teaching at Irwin High around 1997 and she lived with her dad on W. Henderson. In Feb.2003, she moved to her little rental house on W Park when her dad Billy and his second wife Connie moved to Alabama. There are also photos of Tara graduating showing her with her dad. Obviously the two were not estranged.

Matthew7:1, I interpreted LG's comment as referring to Tara not having a dad at the time he met her - when she was 14. To me, he was speaking of the past.

According to the news reports, Tara's 31st birthday was November 14, 2005. Doing the math, she was born in 1974, and would've been 14 in 1988, well before she ever moved back with her dad in 1997, as you posted.

Whether or not that's a fair statement about Mr. Grinstead even if he was speaking about the situation when Tara was 14, I couldn't say. It does seem a bit insensitive, though, not to have at least qualified it as "not having a dad around."

[concernedperson]

Originally posted by kelloggirl


Matthew7:1, I interpreted LG's comment as referring to Tara not having a dad at the time he met her - when she was 14. To me, he was speaking of the past.

According to the news reports, Tara's 31st birthday was November 14, 2005. Doing the math, she was born in 1974, and would've been 14 in 1988, well before she ever moved back with her dad in 1997, as you posted.

Whether or not that's a fair statement about Mr. Grinstead even if he was speaking about the situation when Tara was 14, I couldn't say. It does seem a bit insensitive, though, not to have at least qualified it as "not having a dad around."

'It wasn't qualified with not having a dad around. It was qualified with not having a dad.As if there never was a dad.

Even though I am divorced from my children's father I would never say they didn't have a dad. They did.He loves them and he still loves me although it couldn't work.To never acknowledge or to disavow is so extremely wrong to me.

[kelloggirl]

Originally posted by concernedperson


'It wasn't qualified with not having a dad around. It was qualified with not having a dad.As if there never was a dad.

Right, I agree, but isn't that what I said? As spoken, the original statement was not qualified at all (I was using the grammatical definition of a qualifier here) - there was no "around" or "at the time" to soften the "no dad" statement. I said that the statement should've been qualified with the word "around" if that's what he really meant. I apologize for any confusion.

Even so, I personally am not sure if it was meant in such a perjorative sense as many are assuming. Giving a live interview isn't really easy, and how many of us always say precisely what we mean? Not to mention things getting lost in transcription. (See above for example, and I was able to reread and edit what I wrote, but the point obviously didn't quite come across.) Or maybe this could just be my not knowing the players and their relationships as everyone else seems to, and LG did mean it as an insult. Did they not get along prior to Tara's disappearance?

Results, I can't personally answer your question as to why this came up recently, I never saw it the first time but haven't been around that long.

[fsbiii]

I dug up the quote from Gattis about Tara "not having a dad" in the context of showing how this "family" issue has been splintered from the get-go. Gattis explained in the interview that the investigator for "the other side of the family" was terminated, and implied this termination occurred after that investigator stumbled onto information (and shared it with others) about Gattis and Tara.

I've always found it unfair to hear such broad, sweeping commentary from the Gattises about "the family" when they are truly speaking for themselves. Obviously, by their own words, they consider Tara's father "the other side of the family."

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by fsbiii
I dug up the quote from Gattis about Tara "not having a dad" in the context of showing how this "family" issue has been splintered from the get-go. Gattis explained in the interview that the investigator for "the other side of the family" was terminated, and implied this termination occurred after that investigator stumbled onto information (and shared it with others) about Gattis and Tara.

I've always found it unfair to hear such broad, sweeping commentary from the Gattises about "the family" when they are truly speaking for themselves. Obviously, by their own words, they consider Tara's father "the other side of the family."

That comment ("the other side of the family") is what stood out to me when first reading the article. Typically a situation like this would bring all family members together with a united purpose and make them closer due to a shared burden.

It seems to me that whatever previous divide existed, only broadened in the wake of Tara's disappearance after reading that article. Something that I find peculiar.

[luvmy2labpups]

UMMMMM Waters, how on earth did her family become her intimates & associates? What happened last night that I missed?

[MakeSomeNoise]

Originally posted by luvmy2labpups
UMMMMM Waters, how on earth did her family become her intimates & associates? What happened last night that I missed?
I think the moderator here just wanted to simplify all those initials, you know, like into 3 separate groups.

1. family (self explanatory)
2. intimates (boyfriends)
3. associates (business contacts)

Seems simple enough.

[fsbiii]

Before an edit this afternoon, the original title was just "Intimates & Associates." Family wasn't in the title.

Originally posted by MakeSomeNoise

I think the moderator here just wanted to simplify all those initials, you know, like into 3 separate groups.

1. family (self explanatory)
2. intimates (boyfriends)
3. associates (business contacts)

Seems simple enough.

[MakeSomeNoise]

Originally posted by fsbiii
Before an edit this afternoon, the original title was just "Intimates & Associates." Family wasn't in the title.


Then I stand corrected. I wasn't here earlier today. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by fsbiii
Before an edit this afternoon, the original title was just "Intimates & Associates." Family wasn't in the title.



Ummm... family members are intimates.

:shrug:

[fsbiii]

In my house, intimates are kept in the top drawer. :)

I was just pointing out that a mod changed the title to the thread to use the word "family" too.

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


Ummm... family members are intimates.

:shrug:

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by fsbiii
In my house, intimates are kept in the top drawer. :)

I was just pointing out that a mod changed the title to the thread to use the word "family" too.



LMAO

I reckon it confused a lot of people.

[longcoolwoman]

Originally posted by Results


...I don't know much about BG I wish I did. I wish he would come forward and let us know something anything from him would be good. The silence from the parents are deafining. JMHO (This is by all means not to hurt anyone but lets face it without the parents help we only have one side) I would love to hear what BG has to say. God be with them at this very difficult time.

I don't know BG personally, but my dh does and has spoken with him on many occasions since Tara's disappearance. According to dh, BG is a fine person, and this has hit him and Mrs. BG hard.

[kys]

Originally posted by Results
This is very interesting. When I read this interview when it first came out I started a thread asking how could LG make such a statement. No response. What has changed since the interview and now? Why does it sound bad now when it didn't when he first said it. I don't care what he meant by it he should not have said it. Do you think that BG deserved his own family bashing him? How many boards said Happy Fathers Day to him. I am sick and tired of hearing about AG and LG. What about her parents? You want my opinion, (I'm sure you don't but just the same I think I will go ahead and give it all I got). Shame on AG and LG. This is not about you. This is about a missing daughter, sister, aunt, and friend, not you. NOT YOU! How many times must this be said before you get the idea this is not about YOU! What do you think Tara would think about YOU! It is so easy to point the finger and say "Oh yeah we now who did it, MH, LE coverup, GBI coverup, etc, etc. YOU have not helped the situation any. I witnessed today someone step forward and face questions head on, you might have not liked the answers, but by God you got them. So, AG and LG come on out and tell me why your behaviour is so whacked out? Step forward and tell me why your story changes on almost every interviews. Tell me why you will not talk about HD? I know you guys are too busy for me, but, are you too busy for everyone on this board and not other boards? You guys have pulled these boards apart and divided a community for what? What have you accomplished? What is your mission? You keep asking questions that are directed to hurt people why are you not answering questions that can get to the truth? Are you hiding something? At what cost do you want to convict MH? Why the hatred? Where is your evidence? Do I think you had anything to do with Tara's disappearance? NO
But what cost will you go to make MH guilty? Have you ever thought of anyone else? Have you ever thought you could be wrong? Why do you hate people like me that say I don't think MH had anything to do with it. If you would just stop this hatred we could get somewhere, maybe. Don't answer me now, please just sleep on it. THIS IS MY OBSERVATION AND OPINION ONLY!!!

Amen Results!!!! I agree wholeheartly with this post! All Anita and Larry need to do is step forward and answer the questions, TRUTHFULLY!!.......I've seen it done, right here, Gooch answered ALL the questions a few could throw his way, and he has my praise for that!!

So to Anita and Larry I say: Come on out and answer the questions honestly that really need answered in this! If it were my sister I would NOT try to throw the blame on one person and one person only, I would be out there screaming for everyone that could hear that my sister is missing please everyone help me find her!! I am just finding it so hard to understand why they want only a select few involved in searching for Tara, and why they feel they have to be in control of all the searches and where to search....I don't understand why they can't answer questions for themselves.....Instead you go ove to CB ask a question and get a vile remark from their few IE: J4T, MM........You can not get an answer other than a nasty one there period....

Come on Larry and Anita come on and anwser these questions for us..

And for the record, I agree, Marcus H has been raked over the coals and every part of his life put out there for the world to see, and I do not believe this man is guilty at all!

[kys]

Wasn't the satement that "Tara didn't have a dad" said at the same time that LarryG made the statement that AG would "have him pushing up daisies'? Or was that two different interviews??

I know the one about daisies I heard on TV but was the other one made at that same time as well?? I can't remember..

[fsbiii]

The CrimeLibrary article where this quote comes from is from January 2006.

"The way Gattis sees it: the very fact that he was alive and able to be asked about his alleged affair is proof that the rumor is baseless. "I wouldn't be alive right now," he said. 'If you know my wife, I'd be pushing up daisies somewhere.'"

The Larry Harriet interview with the "didn't have a dad" line is from February 7/8, 2006.

[kys]

Thank you for clearing that up for me FSB.....Ok, so is this the same interveiw they were doing where LarryG stated that he had taken an LDT?? And the GBI told him he failed the one question about beinging intimate with Tara?? Just a little confused about it, and have read so much it all seems to be running together nowadays...

[concernedperson]

Originally posted by kys
Thank you for clearing that up for me FSB.....Ok, so is this the same interveiw they were doing where LarryG stated that he had taken an LDT?? And the GBI told him he failed the one question about beinging intimate with Tara?? Just a little confused about it, and have read so much it all seems to be running together nowadays...

You are probably right on with your assessments. Keep up the good work.

[Moms4Justice]

Talk of GBI crime scene trucks at the old Tara center and LE going running out like "crazy"?
Anyone know anything?

[concernedperson]

I know as much as you do right now. On pins and needles though.

[HonestInjun]

Closure would be nice....God speed the GBI....

Time for an arrest.....IMO...:seeya:

[simply quiet]

Originally posted by Mannequin

They were walking door to door in parts of the neighborhood, and with the crime scene trucks thrown into the mix maybe they got a new lead and/or confiscated more item or took some more DNA swab or something. Was this also GBI in the black SUVs? Two or three of those Tahoe or Yukon type trucks were parked out front at one point in addition to the white crime units.

Thanks for the update.

What elese did you see? What time did you see these trucks?

[simply quiet]

Originally posted by Mannequin
I came over to this website to try to read about the tv program that's got everybody all bent out of shape and found all this other stuff written about Tara. i had no idea. My old heart couldn't take reading this stuff very long. I just came to read about Haunted Evidence since its the talk of the town right now.

What is the talk of the town about the show? How are people feeling about it?

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by Mannequin
I came over to this website to try to read about the tv program that's got everybody all bent out of shape and found all this other stuff written about Tara. i had no idea. My old heart couldn't take reading this stuff very long. I just came to read about Haunted Evidence since its the talk of the town right now.

Bent out of shape?

If I lived there, I might be bent out of shape if a charlatan was to come into town with cameras whirling a mile a minute and feeding people, who so desperately want answers, a bunch of BS that any cold reader could do.

For those that believe in psychics, more power to them. If it gives them some type of comfort in life, then so be it.

But in my opinion it is nothing more than a predatory profession that takes advantage of people when they're having weak moments in life and feel helpless and hopeless.

[The R]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


Bent out of shape?

If I lived there, I might be bent out of shape if a charlatan was to come into town with cameras whirling a mile a minute and feeding people, who so desperately want answers, a bunch of BS that any cold reader could do.

For those that believe in psychics, more power to them. If it gives them some type of comfort in life, then so be it.

But in my opinion it is nothing more than a predatory profession that takes advantage of people when they're having weak moments in life and feel helpless and hopeless.

Don't hold back your true feelings BFD, let us know what you really think..........

Sorry, I could not help it......;)

[IBC]

Originally posted by MATTHEWsevenone I would like to know what anyone can confirm or knows of why and what the GBI did?

Wouldn't we all? The GBI isn't about to said anything, which is really unfortunate. Anything we surmise could well be off base, but we certainly can wonder. I just don't see how GBI occasionally giving a statement would harm their case. It would be a positive public relations move, would squash rumors, and might subdue uneasy and uncomfortable feelings among Ocillans.

[mooloo]

Are there uneasy and uncomfortable feelings among Ocilla folks? I haven't heard this.

Originally posted by IBC


Wouldn't we all? The GBI isn't about to said anything, which is really unfortunate. Anything we surmise could well be off base, but we certainly can wonder. I just don't see how GBI occasionally giving a statement would harm their case. It would be a positive public relations move, would squash rumors, and might subdue uneasy and uncomfortable feelings among Ocillans.

[msmith1]

This post was started 2 days ago with information that the GBI were scurrying around Ocilla. Whatever happened? Any new news to share? Please share !!

[Atok]

They swirled in and they swirled out, leaving the general public with nothing but guesses about the reasons.

[IBC]

Originally posted by Atok They swirled in and they swirled out, leaving the general public with nothing but guesses about the reasons.

And more gossip and more rumors.

[concernedperson]

Originally posted by Hey Paula


Do you know how long the GBI was in Ocilla, i.e., days/hours?

TIA

They could still be there. It isn't up to us anymore to discern what is or what isn't. Someone with more knowledge has stepped in.

We have to let authorities handle at this point. I trust GBI. The truth will fall wherever it may.

[msmith1]

How are the folks in Ocilla feeling today. Is there the feeling that something is about to break with the GBI in town?

[InOcillaGA]

It looked like everthing was going to break loose Saturday but they left as quick as they came in. Don't know if anything became of any of their questioning. Haven't noticed anything different going on since they left.

[msmith1]

hmmm how odd is that. Of course seems there are so many twists to this that it doesn't surprise me. My heart aches for closure of some sort. We all know that this family is suffering in a way few of us can understand. I'm one of those that checks the board first thing everyday hoping for something. It's taking soo long. I'm also thankful for every bit of info given from those that are closest to the situation. Thanks

[lostinthought]

My mother-in-law was interviewed by the GBI this past weekend. She is the one who saw the man the Monday night after Tara went missing.

[Moms4Justice]

Originally posted by lostinthought
My mother-in-law was interviewed by the GBI this past weekend. She is the one who saw the man the Monday night after Tara went missing.

Did she say who they were questioning about?
Did she say that acted like they knew something more or that there was a tip or a break in the case or just following up from old stuff?

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by guitarstring
*snipped*

A suicide attempt is a very serious thing and is a cry for help. We know this man has been through some tough times, but to try to kill himself is a loud message. Either he's totally innocent, but people have found him guilty in their eyes & he's buckling from the pain of being wrongly accused, OR, maybe he does have some involvement and is cracking under the pressure?

Either way, my prayers go out to the family of JML for all they are dealing with alongside their loved one in this difficult time.
(if this is true)

The ONLY place I've heard it characterized as a "suicide attempt" is from the other board you referenced.

My understanding was that he was hospitalized due to an overdose. But at this time no one has come out and said whether the OD was accidental or an attempt to take his own life. Many people have been hospitalized throughout the years due to an overdose... doesn't mean all of them were attempting suicide.

In my opinion the man had plenty on his plate well before Tara Grinstead ever went missing. The innuendo, accusations and rumors surely did not help the situation, I'm sure.

[msmith1]

Yes that confirms it!!!! I'm so lost. I try to stay up but if you miss a day or two your out in the cold. What man was seen? Where was he seen and is the man in the hospital the same one that owned the mobile home that burned right after Tara was missing.
The mohter-in-law that was interviewed...where did she she this man? Was it at Tara's and does the mother-in-law live close to Tara?
Does she know the Poirters?
Just trying to catch up Thanks

[msmith1]

Thanks so much for the update. I thought all along that it was an old mobile home that had burned. See...lost. I truly appreciated the update and am now SOOO curious about this man that was seen. Lostinthought!!! Where are you?

[Moms4Justice]

snipped from guitarstrings post

"Never heard of a mobile home burning up, but a HOUSE burned on Snapdragon Road & NO, this man did not own it, nor do I believe he had permission to even be in the home, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong. "


He was house sitting for the elderly lady that owned to my understanding.

[Saunterer]

Isn't it amazing ... that, notwithstanding the GBI's inexplicable silence regarding things that matter most to the good citizens of Georgia, an entire town full of people seems to be totally dumbfounded and oblivious to what is happening around them?

[rhill]

Originally posted by Saunterer
Isn't it amazing ... that, notwithstanding the GBI's inexplicable silence regarding things that matter most to the good citizens of Georgia, an entire town full of people seems to be totally dumbfounded and oblivious to what is happening around them?

What is happening around them? :confused:

[Moms4Justice]

Originally posted by Saunterer
Isn't it amazing ... that, notwithstanding the GBI's inexplicable silence regarding things that matter most to the good citizens of Georgia, an entire town full of people seems to be totally dumbfounded and oblivious to what is happening around them?

Absolutely Amazing!

[justthinking]

What many of us need to realize is this is not about US. Because the case may involve LE officials or agents, it is of the utmost importance that the information the GBI is gathering be kept absolutely quiet as not to be leaked to the perp. We all understand the brotherhood of the LE and how the slightest bit of info spreads like wildfire through the departments. As a result, LE unknowingly helps out the perp. I, like everyone else, would love to know what is going on on a regular basis. However, I do trust that LE is doing their job and will render favorable results. Let us not forget the rush to make hasty moves which can end up with the same outcome as in the O.J........sorry, Nicole Simpson case.

For the longest, I think LE was led to believe ONE theory. Now that it has not led them to Tara, they have had to come up with another game plan....perhaps, drop back and punt. Please give them time to get back in the game and make some yardage before we criticize the new strategy. And, please forgive the analagy as I am sure I will have someone who will make some wise comment about it.

Again, this is not about us.

[luvmy2labpups]

Originally posted by justthinking
What many of us need to realize is this is not about US. Because the case may involve LE officials or agents, it is of the utmost importance that the information the GBI is gathering be kept absolutely quiet as not to be leaked to the perp. We all understand the brotherhood of the LE and how the slightest bit of info spreads like wildfire through the departments. As a result, LE unknowingly helps out the perp. I, like everyone else, would love to know what is going on on a regular basis. However, I do trust that LE is doing their job and will render favorable results. Let us not forget the rush to make hasty moves which can end up with the same outcome as in the O.J........sorry, Nicole Simpson case.

For the longest, I think LE was led to believe ONE theory. Now that it has not led them to Tara, they have had to come up with another game plan....perhaps, drop back and punt. Please give them time to get back in the game and make some yardage before we criticize the new strategy. And, please forgive the analagy as I am sure I will have someone who will make some wise comment about it.

Again, this is not about us. Who is the PERP you are talking about? Last article I read they don't even see any evidence of foul play. Hence, the reason she is still considered a missing person.

[justthinking]

The term PERP was a very general term, not with any one specific person in mind. Although there is no evidence of foul play, you and I both know foul play is suspected, hence the yellow CRIME SCENE tape.

[simply quiet]

Originally posted by justthinking
The term PERP was a very general term, not with any one specific person in mind. Although there is no evidence of foul play, you and I both know foul play is suspected, hence the yellow CRIME SCENE tape.

I don't think the fact that there is crime scene tape still up has anything to do with anything.

Heck.....aren't they packing up her household things and getting ready to move them?

I just walked by a water pipe break and it was cordoned off with POLICE yellow Crime Scene tape. So go figure

:shrug:

[justthinking]

Pups, my reason for logging on and replying to your post was not to engage in meaningless arguments, but to stress the importance of patience in this very sensitive case. I think all of us armchair detectives want to solve this case, but we need to remember that some innocent people may be being accused, while the guilty is being overlooked.

I read these posts regularly, but sit back quietly and just watch all of the finger pointing and bashing. I have not taken part in such and refuse to do so now. The sharing of ideas is important to this case. However, hurtful, unfounded accusations are not.

Again, I am not here to defend anyone. Heck, I don't know anyone. I just think we need to continue to be open minded and look in all directions......which I am sure that is what the LE is doing.

[luvmy2labpups]

Originally posted by justthinking
The term PERP was a very general term, not with any one specific person in mind. Although there is no evidence of foul play, you and I both know foul play is suspected, hence the yellow CRIME SCENE tape. No I don't know there is foul play suspected. Yellow tape is put up during an investigation to keep people from entering, so far it looks like their investigation has led them to believe as of this date (almost 9 months later) that there is NO EVIDENCE OF FOUL PLAY. Do you honestly think that the GBI requested that they keep the tape up? Call the GBI and ask them if it is a normal practice to keep crime scene tape up for 9 months. Further, please ask them why they put the tape up and if they asked Anita to keep it up. My take on it still being there is for attention and I don't believe it is the GBI or LE that is seeking that attention. I strongly believe that Tara is alive and well, you are free to believe what you wish and I don't seek to change your mind. As far as I am concerned, they don't have a PERP and they say there is NO EVIDENCE OF FOUL PLAY. I think I will go with that. I don't believe there was foul play either.

[justthinking]

Pups, I certainly was not insinuating you were finger pointing. I was just replying to your post and the statement was about the boards as a whole. It was not aimed at you and I hope I did not offend you. If I did, I am truly sorry. I have read many of your post and have found you to be very knowledgeable and informative.

Again, I am sorry if I offended you.

[justthinking]

Okay Pups, I will go with your take on that. I have looked at the latest pics of her and compared them to earlier ones. I have wondered it several times myself. So, do you think she went on her own or against her will? Any help?

[luvmy2labpups]

Originally posted by justthinking
Pups, my reason for logging on and replying to your post was not to engage in meaningless arguments, but to stress the importance of patience in this very sensitive case. I think all of us armchair detectives want to solve this case, but we need to remember that some innocent people may be being accused, while the guilty is being overlooked.

I read these posts regularly, but sit back quietly and just watch all of the finger pointing and bashing. I have not taken part in such and refuse to do so now. The sharing of ideas is important to this case. However, hurtful, unfounded accusations are not.

Again, I am not here to defend anyone. Heck, I don't know anyone. I just think we need to continue to be open minded and look in all directions......which I am sure that is what the LE is doing. What made you respond to me again when I had not even responded to your first post. Sure, I agree patience is necessary and I believe in the long run patience will bring Tara home. Atleast I hope it will. I will state my thoughts/ opinions with gusto just have many others on here have. I have watched as numerous people have been accused of being a possible perp, as SF, MH, AV and others have been accused without one ounce of proof. The band marches to a beat of only one tune and anytime anybody goes against them, they are bashed. Hell, now they want to run me over with a truck, because I have an opinion. Lets talk about posting trash, put the blame where it belongs, and it isn't on me. You can have differing opinions but I would never in a million years dream of saying or wishing any harm on you or anyone. Go take a look on the site they post on and if you find it even remotely ok then you have a very skewed view on reality. Grieving people don't poke fun at attempted suicide victims, nor do they enjoy joking about running over and backing up and running people over again. Honestly, it makes me sick.

[luvmy2labpups]

SHEESH, you are responding faster then I can get back to you. LOL, I will try and respond to all in just a minute.

[luvmy2labpups]

I believe she left on her own, maybe had some help and believe that she confided in someone that she was going. I believe she had alot of turmoil going on in her life and needed/wanted to get away from it all. I believe she will be found alive and well and don't have an opinion one way or another on if she will want to return to Ocilla. I would hope she would just so that the many who care about her would know that she is ok. However, if she did leave on her own, the things that have come as a result of her disappearance be it good or bad may be a reason to not want to return. I have tried regularly to understand the position of those who believe she is no longer alive, but nobody has given me any reason good enough to change my thoughts. Obviously there is a potential that something bad happened but I can't see anything indicating it at this point. Would I want justice for Tara if something happened to her, absolutely. My take on justice is not just throwing someone under a bus just because someone needs to be responsible for it. In otherwords, the right person. Until such time as there is information to the contrary I hold out hope that she is alive and well.

[justthinking]

Originally posted by luvmy2labpups
What made you respond to me again when I had not even responded to your first post. Sure, I agree patience is necessary and I believe in the long run patience will bring Tara home. Atleast I hope it will. I will state my thoughts/ opinions with gusto just have many others on here have. I have watched as numerous people have been accused of being a possible perp, as SF, MH, AV and others have been accused without one ounce of proof. The band marches to a beat of only one tune and anytime anybody goes against them, they are bashed. Hell, now they want to run me over with a truck, because I have an opinion. Lets talk about posting trash, put the blame where it belongs, and it isn't on me. You can have differing opinions but I would never in a million years dream of saying or wishing any harm on you or anyone. Go take a look on the site they post on and if you find it even remotely ok then you have a very skewed view on reality. Grieving people don't poke fun at attempted suicide victims, nor do they enjoy joking about running over and backing up and running people over again. Honestly, it makes me sick.

Help me out here....I am not sure I know what you are referring to.

[justthinking]

Originally posted by luvmy2labpups
I believe she left on her own, maybe had some help and believe that she confided in someone that she was going. I believe she had alot of turmoil going on in her life and needed/wanted to get away from it all. I believe she will be found alive and well and don't have an opinion one way or another on if she will want to return to Ocilla. I would hope she would just so that the many who care about her would know that she is ok. However, if she did leave on her own, the things that have come as a result of her disappearance be it good or bad may be a reason to not want to return. I have tried regularly to understand the position of those who believe she is no longer alive, but nobody has given me any reason good enough to change my thoughts. Obviously there is a potential that something bad happened but I can't see anything indicating it at this point. Would I want justice for Tara if something happened to her, absolutely. My take on justice is not just throwing someone under a bus just because someone needs to be responsible for it. In otherwords, the right person. Until such time as there is information to the contrary I hold out hope that she is alive and well.


In this day and time it is hard to believe someone would just disappear. Yes, I am familiar with certain cases, but even if she was pregnant, as has been discussed, that would be no reason to just disappear.....even to protect the father. Heck, Terri Hatcher, who has the media all over her all the time, has been able to conceal the paternity of her child. Granted, a pregnancy would have been scandalous for a short time, but not nearly as long as this disappearance has been.

If Tara left on her own, regardless of the reason, I would equate the selfishness to that of a person who commits suicide. In such cases, the true victims are those left here to grieve.

[simply quiet]

Originally posted by justthinking



In this day and time it is hard to believe someone would just disappear. Yes, I am familiar with certain cases, but even if she was pregnant, as has been discussed, that would be no reason to just disappear.....even to protect the father. Heck, Terri Hatcher, who has the media all over her all the time, has been able to conceal the paternity of her child. Granted, a pregnancy would have been scandalous for a short time, but not nearly as long as this disappearance has been.

If Tara left on her own, regardless of the reason, I would equate the selfishness to that of a person who commits suicide. In such cases, the true victims are those left here to grieve.

HUH ??? Did I miss something? Possibly a National Enguirer article, maybe Soap Digest? Is that how Terri Hatcher fits in here?

[floridasweet5]

I'M FAIRLY NEW TO THIS BOARD, AND FOR THESE COMMENTS ON THIS THREAD, R ALL OF U FROM THE GA AREA???????

I'M IN FLORIDA

JUST CURIOUS, CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE AREAS YOUR SPEAKIN OF............:confused:

FLORIDASWEET5

[justthinking]

If Tara was pregnant and wanted to keep the baby, all she would have to say is she was artificially inseminated. Her business; her choice.....end of discussion. And if she had help with the disappearance, whoever helped her, I'm sure would go along with the story. I don't think a married man would push the issue.

If the father were a student, now that's a different story.

Strings, you made some great points, but I'm with you....clueless!

[IBC]

Guitarstring, I think your assessment is quite good.

If T disappeared on her own because of any of the pregnancy theories, a baby should have already been born, assuming she was 1 or 2 months along in October. After all the searches, etc., how could T simply waltz into town one day as if nothing happened and assume there would be no rumors? IMO there would be no coming home.

If she did have a baby, now what? How is she supporting herself? Is someone helping her? Did a mysterious couple want a child and fund her pregnancy? It seems that GBI would pick up on any attempt to get a job in education - license, etc.

No one has reported T sightings. How could she remain hidden? Did she leave the country? Change her identity?

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by IBC


*snipped*


No one has reported T sightings. How could she remain hidden? Did she leave the country? Change her identity?

Not quite accurate. There have been "sightings" but no one has confirmed one way or the other if it was Tara. Law enforcement doesn't believe it was Tara that the one truck driver saw... but I don't think they've ever confirmed 100% that it was someone else.

Also, outside of Georgia, not too many people would recognize (or even know who is) Tara Grinstead.

A very small percentage of the population is aware of her. She could be up in Michigan doing her thing at the local grocery store and no one is going to know she is a missing person.

In my opinion, that's the only good thing that will come of the Haunting Evidence show. Someone may recognize her as someone they saw.

[ccteacher]

On July 8, I was in the area and saw several LE with lights on racing around. I was between Irwinville and Ocilla. I'm not sure what was going on, but I was curious to see if it had anything to do with Tara. They were headed toward Irwinville. I was wanting to post this earlier, but I've been out of town. Anyone know what was going on?

[justthinking]

Is anyone familiar with the process of taking someone into the witness protection program? Do they just disappear and leave things as if they vanished or is a death staged?

Long shot, I know.

[simply quiet]

I'd be real curious to see where her packed belongings go. If she were pregnant when she left she wouldn't need her old clothes until just about now. Coincidence?

What made the owner decide to rent out the house now? Did she think that maybe she and her baby would return, but then change her mind?

[simply quiet]

Originally posted by ccteacher
On July 8, I was in the area and saw several LE with lights on racing around. I was between Irwinville and Ocilla. I'm not sure what was going on, but I was curious to see if it had anything to do with Tara. They were headed toward Irwinville. I was wanting to post this earlier, but I've been out of town. Anyone know what was going on?

I am not local there, but I was wondering if your local paper listed the police calls from the previous week? Our local paper prints the "police blotter" once a week, they post all the calls from the previous week. Maybe you could look there.

[simply quiet]

Originally posted by Hey Paula
Hi Everyone!

I've thought long and hard about Tara leaving Ocilla, for whatever reason, and I just can't wrap my mind around it.

I find it hard to believe that someone would leave their town, without planning where they're going, or setting up such a move in advance, either by phone or via the internet. I suspect LE has checked all these avenues and turned up empty.

I also can't imagine why Tara would leave $300 in her unlocked car, and not take that money with her. Her bank accounts were not closed or depleted, and her clothing was left behind. Why would Tara do that, and how would she pay rent and buy food, clothing etc., without money?

How did Tara leave the tiny town of Ocilla without being seen or noticed? What method of transportation and payment did she use? Did she leave in the middle of the night? Do buses, trains and planes leave from Ocilla? How did she get to the bus, train or plane?

The questions raised leave me feeling very doubtful that Tara simply up and left, without a trace.

IMO

:seeya: Hi Paula

I am still hanging on to the thought and hope that she is ok.

Funny how I can answer all your questions and be satisfied with my answers and still think there is no sign of a crime.

CTV is loading slow as mollasses here.....Grrrrrrr

Always nice to see you hon. Hope all is well.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by justthinking
Is anyone familiar with the process of taking someone into the witness protection program? Do they just disappear and leave things as if they vanished or is a death staged?

Long shot, I know.

They don't "vanish" in regards to family members. Other people may think they "vanished", but family members are typically aware of the situation. In some cases even allowed to correspond via the US Marshal's office.

[justthinking]

Originally posted by Hey Paula


As far as I know, most in the WPP are given new ID's, SS#'s, Motorist ID#'s, etc, and are moved away from their hometown, and away from those who might harm them. Some informants disguise themselves by wearing wigs, and in the case of men beards and/or mustaches.

IMO

In other words, they walk away from the current life and start anew. No need to take anything with them.

If she is alive, this type of vanishing would make far more sense. Though I don't quite know what she would have witnessed.