Karla Homolka has resurfaced

[maybeme]

:flamemad: :flamemad: :flamemad:

Global reporter tracks down Karla Homolka
Published: Tuesday, July 25, 2006
MONTREAL -- Karla Homolka has resurfaced.

The notorious sex killer has not been seen in public since last summer, when a Toronto Sun reporter found her working in a hardware store in Longueuil.

But her brief spell out of the spotlight is over.

As she walked out of her east-end apartment just after 10:30 a.m. Tuesday, Homolka was greeted by a Global television reporter who has been keeping tabs on her since Christmas.


"She rolled her eyes, turned around and put sunglasses on," said Domenic Fazioli, who has covered crime and courts for five years.

As she headed toward a bus stop that would take her to the métro, Homolka remained silent when Fazioli told her several residents in her neighbourhood are alarmed that she is living there.

"Karla’s neighbours know who she is, they know where she lives, and most of the people who live there are young families," he said. "They are scared and they want her to move."

When he asked Homolka how the last year in Montreal has been for her, Homolka replied: "I have nothing to say."

Homolka was dressed in brown pants and a white top. Her blond hair was tied back and she carried a beige suede purse.

She eventually jumped on to a bus and disappeared into the métro.

Homolka is unemployed and lives by herself in a four-unit apartment block in the east end with her dog, Fazioli said.

He wouldn’t divulge the neighbourhood, saying Global’s lawyer has instructed him not to.

Fazioli acknowledged being a bit nervous just prior to speaking with Homolka, who served a 12-year sentence for manslaughter for her part in the sex slayings of two Ontario teenagers, as well as her sister Tammy, 15.

"It was exciting and nerve-racking at the same time," he said, conceding it was the biggest scoop of his career.

Fazioli said he received a tip around Christmastime, directing him to Homolka’s apartment. He defended his decision to approach Homolka yesterday, saying "her neighbours are nervous about having her around."

"She looked visibly upset, but we weren’t rude with her. We weren’t harassing her. She was very professional."

A mother of three children told Global that Homolka "has done a lot of bad things to a lot of children and it’s better if she wasn’t in our neighbourhood."

Fazioli said he expects Homolka will have to move to another neighbourhood now that a journalist knows where she lives.

Alexandra Henderson, Global’s assistant news director, said Canadians are still fascinated by Homolka and said it is intriguing how she can disappear for lengthy periods despite her high public profile.

Homolka’s lawyer, Sylvie Bordelais, refused to comment on the incident Tuesday.

Last month, a Quebec Superior Court judge barred Homolka from legally changing her name to Emily Chiara Tremblay.

In December, the Quebec Court of Appeal removed 14 restrictions that had been placed on Homolka after her release from prison last summer.

Homolka was freed in July after completing her sentence for the killings of schoolgirls Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffy. Her former husband, Paul Bernardo, is serving a life sentence for the killings.

© Montreal Gazette 2006

[Neener-Neener]

She is an evil, evil woman who needs to be locked up for the rest of her life!

[goatgirl]

Hi all

Here is another update on life after murders & prison for Karla...

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060701/homolka_quebec_060701/20060701?hub=Canada&s_name=

GoatGirl


:seeya:

[yvonnepar]

The only news article most Canadians want to see is "Karla Homolka found with a knife through her brain!!!"

[ferretplay]

Karla is obviously one of the worst & i have read about the majority.It would seem she has no conscious beyond herself.She clearly is selfcentered to the ultimet extreme.She went to any lengths to achieve her end goals,whether it be to make her x-husband happy,so he would make her happy.It is difficult to put in words,her lack of any good human emotions.She definately should not be free ,as her victims are gone forever,so should she.

[maybeme]

Originally posted by yvonnepar
The only news article most Canadians want to see is "Karla Homolka found with a knife through her brain!!!"

:beer:

[2L8 4A D8]

Originally posted by ferretplay
Karla is obviously one of the worst & i have read about the majority.It would seem she has no conscious beyond herself.She clearly is selfcentered to the ultimet extreme.She went to any lengths to achieve her end goals,whether it be to make her x-husband happy,so he would make her happy.It is difficult to put in words,her lack of any good human emotions.She definately should not be free ,as her victims are gone forever,so should she.

It's thanks to the Canadian Government for giving Karla her "sweetheart deal" which has allowed her to be free for what she did after only 12 years. A Poster has said that the Canadian Government has made changes to make sure that their big "mistake" is never repeated. Yeah, like that is supposed to give some sort of consolation to the French's and the Mahaffy's. It's a little too late if you ask me!

JMO and MOO!!

[goatgirl]

Originally posted by yvonnepar
The only news article most Canadians want to see is "Karla Homolka found with a knife through her brain!!!"

yikes,

I am going to stick w/ karma myself!

"what goes around comes around"

GoatGirl
:)

[ferretplay]

:read: I have just read the 28 pages in "Good News"Debbie Mahaffy.Quite interesting.Where to begin would be an understatement.I have been a victim of DV & know someone like Karla,although this person never murdered or sexually abused.This person is so controlling,manipulating,self-absorbed,ect,she once told me she tries to be nice.I thought to myself,normal people should not have to try to be nice.Unless Karla wants to change & get the right professional help,she will always be a threat to society.She will use & abuse to achieve her goals,as long as she is allowed to.MPO?!???!!!:no:

[rasmur]

I just wanted to say that I think that Karla Homolka should be left alone. I know that the media say they have a public duty to keep an eye on her, and I have no problem if that's as far as it goes. But I don't trust the media to use discretion in that endeavor. I'm afraid they'll hound her and take photos of her in the hope of making a profit. That won't do anybody any good, and it might even result in more tragedy.

[Canadian]

Karla should never be left alone....

If Karla was involved in fraud or robbed a bank ( to use a couple of examples) then the surface wounds would heal with little scarring. The deep slashes that Karla carved into the flesh of society will never heal. The scars will always be a reminder of the tragedy.

Karla did not rob a bank or involve herself in fraud. Karla tortured then ended the lives of three young people. She did not do it once but three times.

There are times when a person under a great amount of stress will snap and cause great injury or death to another person. Usually, the victim did something at the wrong time and put the offender at the breaking point. That person generally has a good level of remorse.....Karla is not placed in that category. She killed her sister. That should have been enough for her to end her ways. But, she continued and killed two others. A long prison term does not help a person, it makes him/her worse. Karla is damaged goods beyond repair. She could attempt to lead a 'normal life' but the potential to harm and kill will always be there.

[Canadian]

"It's thanks to the Canadian Government for giving Karla her "sweetheart deal" which has allowed her to be free for what she did after only 12 years."


It depends on your definition of free. How much freedom has been given to Karla? She is not in a physical penal institution, but one that is much greater. She is now among the general population of her peers where she will always be an outcast. She will have no friends, no financial means of supporting herself, no peer support. She will always have concern for her safety. She may not have remorse for what she did, but she knows that she is one of the hated in Canada.


"A Poster has said that the Canadian Government has made changes to make sure that their big "mistake" is never repeated. Yeah, like that is supposed to give some sort of consolation to the French's and the Mahaffy's. It's a little too late if you ask me!"

Nothing will ever give the involved families peace or contentment. Karla's life could have been ended, but that would not mend the broken hearts of the involved families. Each of the involved families is mourning the loss of a loved one, not the sentence given to Karla. Of course, the involved families would like to see Karla spend the rest of her life in prison. So does most, or all, of Canada.

It is never too late to amend policies, rules, regulations or laws. The amendments could never regain the loss of a life, but it could decrease the chance of another loss of a life.

[Canadian]

"I have been a victim of DV & know someone like Karla,although this person never murdered or sexually abused.This person is so controlling,manipulating,self-absorbed,ect,she once told me she tries to be nice"

Your post is not clear on that person being a victim of DV or if she is simply someone you know.

If she is a victim of DV, was she that way prior to the DV?

My guess is that her problems are genetic.

[henahed]

Isn't Karla Homolka the one who blamed her partner for all the crimes and then when all the hoopla was almost over she tried to shag another wife murderer?

[ferretplay]

Canadian,
The sad truth is she is my sister.She has cut off all communication with her immediate family as she blames each of us for her actions.She was a very caring person,even though she was controlling.Controlling behavior ,as anything is not that bad as long as it does not go to extremes.For a short period in her life,she was a victim of DV,as was I.I did not turn out like her or Karla H.I did at one time ,go live with her to learn how to be mean,cause I was tired of being hurt by people.I could not do it.Unfortunately,she started doing drugs & continued for about 20 years.IMO,this was the end of the sister I knew,she will never be the same as she doesn't feel the need to change.She has been married 5 times & does not have ANY long lasting realationships with any person.I could go on about this tragedy,the point is,I believe people are born with traits,bad or good,the question is what we do with them through out our lives.Human beings Have to accept all responsibly of their actions,if not each generation could blame the former.:no:

[Canadian]

ferretplay

I do not know you or your family, so my comments are general.

There are no excuses for wrong-doings, but there are reasons.

"She was a very caring person,even though she was controlling"

What I have noticed in others is that at times their perceived caring nature is actually a subtle attempt at control. You have acknowledged your sister's controlling nature. I will assume other family members have also. You do not have to answer this question here, but I hope you answer it to yourself - Did you or any other family member attempt to discussion the control issues with your sister during the initial recognition of the control issues?

"I did at one time ,go live with her to learn how to be mean,cause I was tired of being hurt by people"

The troubling factor is that you made the attempt. It could be said that you went to extreme measures to "learn how to be mean". Fortunately, your genetic makeup did not allow you to succeed. Now, take your sister who will not have the exact genetic makeup as you. Unless your sister suffered a traumatic experience or a head injury, there would be strong probability that it is genetic. Her drug usage is not the cause of her problems, but it is responsible to the escalation of her problems.

"I believe people are born with traits"

That means it is genetic, unless it is a defect.

[northernrflxn]

Originally posted by rasmur
I just wanted to say that I think that Karla Homolka should be left alone. I know that the media say they have a public duty to keep an eye on her, and I have no problem if that's as far as it goes. But I don't trust the media to use discretion in that endeavor. I'm afraid they'll hound her and take photos of her in the hope of making a profit. That won't do anybody any good, and it might even result in more tragedy.

I agree that the recent 'outing' of Homolka served no purpose beyond the enrichment of the folks at Global. The interests of Karla Bernardo and society are one and the same in this instance; she should be left alone to put together a semi-normal life and not driven underground. John Rosen, Bernardo's defense attorney and nemesis of Karla Homolka all those years ago said this leading up to her release last year:

"She had to go in there and do her time," he says. "She didn't crumble. She didn't panic. She cannot possibly be the same person now. I think she must have found an internal strength she probably didn't know existed."

Denying her a livelihood or a place to live now, he reasons, will make society no safer. "I think she is pretty savvy and will know to stay away from the wrong people. I think she will lead a quiet, successful life and never get into trouble again. She will quietly disappear into the woodwork."

[northernrflxn]

Originally posted by Canadian
<snip> Karla tortured then ended the lives of three young people. She did not do it once but three times.


So often I hear about how Homolka tortured people. Karla did nothing to interfere with brutal physical, psychological and sexual assaults on others, but she herself did not torture victims, or encourage the torture of victims, or express any enjoyment at watching the torture of victims. Paul spent hours with the girls alone, and Karla's sexual interaction with the girls was a fraction of that of Paul's. Virtually all of her actions were directed on film by Paul, set up like a lesbian porn film with two girls 'in love' and acting out consensual sex. I don't in any way mean to minimize the terror or humilation of the victims, but Homolka simply didn't 'torture' people the way I think is widely assumed.

The only thing that approaches anything like this is a sequence of tape lasting less than a minute that involved a foreign object used against a victim. Paul ordered her to do it, told her to do it harder so it hurt, and then took over because she wasn't doing it hard enough. That's the extent of it. It is so hard not to seem to be minimizing the victims' ordeals, and that is not my intention. It just needs to be understood IMO that there are profound differences between the actions and motivations of Bernardo and Homolka that justify the different sentencing results.

[Kiki]

Originally posted by northernrflxn


*snip*

The only thing that approaches anything like this is a sequence of tape lasting less than a minute that involved a foreign object used against a victim. Paul ordered her to do it, told her to do it harder so it hurt, and then took over because she wasn't doing it hard enough. That's the extent of it. It is so hard not to seem to be minimizing the victims' ordeals, and that is not my intention. It just needs to be understood IMO that there are profound differences between the actions and motivations of Bernardo and Homolka that justify the different sentencing results.

Oh I think that's enough- she is sick and so are you!!!

[northernrflxn]

Originally posted by Kiki


Oh I think that's enough- she is sick and so are you!!!

Sigh. No, Kiki, I'm not sick. I'm just into facts. I find what the court called Homolka's 'somewhat secondary role' relevant, and so should you.

[2L8 4A D8]

Oh Gawd! It's baaaaaaack!!

[Canadian]

northernrflxn

Are you naive or simply ignorant to reality? Do you truly believe that everything was video taped? You have no knowledge of everything that went on between Karla, Paul, and the victims. How could you say that you know all of the facts?

Are you naive enough to believe that every word or group of words written in a document, book, or spoken in a court of law is factual?

Is your reality based on what you read and hear?......I read it in the ?? therefore it must be true?????

I understand that your postings here may be therapeutic to you. If so, then I am glad that it is beneficial to you. However, you are coming across as a person of unsavor character.

[nojusticeatall]

Originally posted by northernrflxn


I agree that the recent 'outing' of Homolka served no purpose beyond the enrichment of the folks at Global. The interests of Karla Bernardo and society are one and the same in this instance; she should be left alone to put together a semi-normal life and not driven underground. John Rosen, Bernardo's defense attorney and nemesis of Karla Homolka all those years ago said this leading up to her release last year:

"She had to go in there and do her time," he says. "She didn't crumble. She didn't panic. She cannot possibly be the same person now. I think she must have found an internal strength she probably didn't know existed."

Denying her a livelihood or a place to live now, he reasons, will make society no safer. "I think she is pretty savvy and will know to stay away from the wrong people. I think she will lead a quiet, successful life and never get into trouble again. She will quietly disappear into the woodwork."

Yeah too bad those 3 innocent girls wont be living successful lives. They had their lives ended because of that ***** karla and her loser ex husband. I hope someone makes karla pay and pay good. She deserves the fate of her 3 victims she helped murder.

[Kiki]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by northernrflxn


*snip*

"So often I hear about how Homolka tortured people."



Awful, isn't it?

[No Nic]

Originally posted by northernrflxn


So often I hear about how Homolka tortured people. Karla did nothing to interfere with brutal physical, psychological and sexual assaults on others, but she herself did not torture victims, or encourage the torture of victims, or express any enjoyment at watching the torture of victims. Paul spent hours with the girls alone, and Karla's sexual interaction with the girls was a fraction of that of Paul's. Virtually all of her actions were directed on film by Paul, set up like a lesbian porn film with two girls 'in love' and acting out consensual sex. I don't in any way mean to minimize the terror or humilation of the victims, but Homolka simply didn't 'torture' people the way I think is widely assumed.

The only thing that approaches anything like this is a sequence of tape lasting less than a minute that involved a foreign object used against a victim. Paul ordered her to do it, told her to do it harder so it hurt, and then took over because she wasn't doing it hard enough. That's the extent of it. It is so hard not to seem to be minimizing the victims' ordeals, and that is not my intention. It just needs to be understood IMO that there are profound differences between the actions and motivations of Bernardo and Homolka that justify the different sentencing results.

I am actually just reading the book "invisible darkness" about this sadistic couple.

From the descriptions of video tapes in this book, Karla thoroughly enjoyed her role in holding these young girls hostage and tormenting them. She could have stopped it at any time and they would still be alive today, as is she.

She HELPED Paul kidnap these girls, for Pete Sake. And we only have her word that she never helped kill them, I personally believe she did. She is a monster and I hope the media keeps tabs of her throughout her life so she will NEVER be able to commit such a heinous crime again.

If she has to only endure media scrutiny, she is getting another "deal" as she deserves so much more punishment than she will ever recieve.

IMO

[ferretplay]

Originally posted by henahed
Isn't Karla Homolka the one who blamed her partner for all the crimes and then when all the hoopla was almost over she tried to shag another wife murderer? The one who helped murder her younger sister & 2 other girls for deviant sexual purposes . She doesn't even have to register as a sexual predator.Totally disgusting human :flamemad:

[ferretplay]

Canadian,I have been working at my job alot,haven't had time to reply.We all tried in different ways to help my sister.I was thinking ,maybe if schools taught classes about life in general,such as ,realationships,parenting,up's & down's of life,working,etc.,maybe it would help .In a way ,maybe they could be more prepared about life.:shrug:

[Canadian]

good post xcel

I will also ask not to be misunderstood as I proceed.

Sex offenses against children should see the offender being dealt with severely. What would be the best and proper way to do this is yet to be determined. Although many would like to see sex offenders' lives ended, that would setback civilization. We could not say we are a civilized society if we act or react uncivilized.

Keep in mind that the vast majority of offenders, who rape and kill, rape for control and kill because they are psychopaths.

Do we want to track the sex offenders or the psychopaths? Are we subconsciously focused on the sex offenders due to many of them being involved in psychotic behaviour?

In a round-about-way, we are tracking a number of killers by tracking the sex offenders.

IMO, the global society is focused on the sex offenders because it sees the ultimate violation as being the violation of the human body.

What about the other types of murderers? Would you not want to know if your neighbour was convicted of one or more murders? Would you not want to know if your neighbour is a psychopath?

What about the drug dealers who are raping the body, souls,and minds of your children? Would you not want to know if your child is being exposed to drugs by a neighbourhood drug dealer?

Society, as a whole, has to begin to acknowledge and accept that physical and mental abuse is as damaging as sexual abuse.

I jumped around in this post to keep it as short as possible. I also know that I went a bit off topic.

[cami]

Originally posted by Freshwater
Katherine Wilton, Montreal Gazette
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Font: * * * * MONTREAL -- Karla Homolka has resurfaced.

The notorious sex killer has not been seen in public since last summer, when a Toronto Sun reporter found her working in a hardware store in Longueuil.

But her brief spell out of the spotlight is over.

As she walked out of her east-end apartment just after 10:30 a.m. Tuesday, Homolka was greeted by a Global television reporter who has been keeping tabs on her since Christmas.


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That's Homolka!! Doesn't look a thing like her. I would never have known it was her if I lived there.

[2L8 4A D8]

Originally posted by cami

That's Homolka!! Doesn't look a thing like her. I would never have known it was her if I lived there.

Yeah, me too Cami. It looks like a picture of a real ugly Gwyneth Paltrow. LOL!!

[Sasha1122]

I've been very interested in this case for years, and I've come to a conclusion about Karla which is probably not a popular one. I think that if Karla had never met Paul, she would have likely lived a very crime-free productive life. She is not the first woman to be so sexually obsessed by a man that she would do anything for him. Remember that Karla was very young when she got involved with Paul Bernardo. She was determined to do whatever it took to make him happy - even help him kill and kidnap young women. This passionate, obsessive, sexually deviant relationship was one that escalated over time. But clearly Karla was victimized by Paul too. One has only to look at some of the pictures of her beaten face to know that. That does not excuse her for her part in the deaths of her sister, Leslie, and Kristin. She has served 12 years in prison. She was vilified for having a relationship (via mail) with a male prisoner who had killed his girlfriend. She can't leave her house without fear for her life. For the rest of her life she will have to live with what she did, and no one else will ever look past what she did and give her a chance at leading a normal life. Many murderous people responsible for heinous crimes have gotten out of prison and lived productive lives. But I guess no one on this board believes in redemption of any kind. Not where she is concerned, and that puzzles me. Is it because she is bi-sexual? I'm well aware of the deviant nature of her relationship with Bernardo, but that does not mean that I think she is beyond redemption

[RogerV]

Originally posted by cami


That's Homolka!! Doesn't look a thing like her. I would never have known it was her if I lived there.


Has anyone else noticed that one very distinguishing feature is her eyes? I don't mean the color, but the fact that she seems to look half asleep much of the time? That may be the reason he put on sun glasses when she was confronted.

[Canadian]

Redemption?

Take an item to a redemption centre and you will see the decreased value.

[joanw_123]

Originally posted by rasmur
I just wanted to say that I think that Karla Homolka should be left alone. I know that the media say they have a public duty to keep an eye on her, and I have no problem if that's as far as it goes. But I don't trust the media to use discretion in that endeavor. I'm afraid they'll hound her and take photos of her in the hope of making a profit. That won't do anybody any good, and it might even result in more tragedy.



If she lived next door to you.....would you not keep an eye on her?

[joanw_123]

For the rest of her life she will have to live with what she did, and no one else will ever look past what she did and give her a chance at leading a normal life. Many murderous people responsible for heinous crimes have gotten out of prison and lived productive lives. But I guess no one on this board believes in redemption of any kind. Not where she is concerned, and that puzzles me. Is it because she is bi-sexual? I'm well aware of the deviant nature of her relationship with Bernardo, but that does not mean that I think she is beyond redemption

In order to commit her henious crime and get out of prison and lead a productive life....... she must first feel culpability, remorse and regret. Carla has expressed non of this in any sincere manner.

Yes, she will have to live with what she did and no, no one will ever look past what she did and give her a chance at leading a normal life.....BECAUSE.... she chose these consequences when she chose to murder and rape. That was HER choice.

How silly to confuse the feelings of the overwhelming injustice of her freedom with feelings about the insignificance of bisexuality.

[joanw_123]

Originally posted by joanw_123
For the rest of her life she will have to live with what she did, and no one else will ever look past what she did and give her a chance at leading a normal life. Many murderous people responsible for heinous crimes have gotten out of prison and lived productive lives. But I guess no one on this board believes in redemption of any kind. Not where she is concerned, and that puzzles me. Is it because she is bi-sexual? I'm well aware of the deviant nature of her relationship with Bernardo, but that does not mean that I think she is beyond redemption

In order to commit her henious crime and get out of prison and lead a productive life....... she must first feel culpability, remorse and regret. Carla has expressed non of this in any sincere manner.

Yes, she will have to live with what she did and no, no one will ever look past what she did and give her a chance at leading a normal life.....BECAUSE.... she chose these consequences when she chose to murder and rape. That was HER choice.

How silly to confuse the feelings of the overwhelming injustice of her freedom with feelings about the insignificance of bisexuality.


*Frowns* The first part of the above was supposed to be someone else's quote.

I think I erased the brackets *sighs*

[jadedheart]

I try to think if I was her mother...if this was my child..that took the life of one of my other children....

and then lives of 2 others...

not to mention the mental anguish and forever emotional distress of those raped....

we tend to forget jane doe here...because she wasn't murdered...she has the wonderful task of living to tell about it...or not...

given a choice..and having been molested and raped...

I'd like to see my tormentor dead and buried...

she should be given a chance?
let her live in peace?

there is no peace for those she touched with her barbaric selfish behaviour...

I could never forgive a child of mine for taking the life of one of their siblings....

poor karla...

her father is the only one that gets that....her mother and sister need their heads examined...

we as a public were made fools of because of how the government did the deal.....funny how she was pretty smart in getting out just in time when she needed to....when they were getting close...

but not smart enough to put a stop to him before he kidnapped or killed....

any person with a conscience would have sacrificed for their sibling...just one little yell upstairs to her parents and it would have been over and done with....

right or wrong is a choice....

and she made her choice....

she doesn't get to live in peace...

she gave that up when she made her choice....

its called a consequence....

nuff said...

[2L8 4A D8]

jadedheart: Excellent post! Thank you for posting!

[VictorianLady]

Originally posted by jadedheart
I try to think if I was her mother...if this was my child..that took the life of one of my other children....

and then lives of 2 others...

not to mention the mental anguish and forever emotional distress of those raped....

we tend to forget jane doe here...because she wasn't murdered...she has the wonderful task of living to tell about it...or not...

given a choice..and having been molested and raped...

I'd like to see my tormentor dead and buried...

she should be given a chance?
let her live in peace?

there is no peace for those she touched with her barbaric selfish behaviour...

I could never forgive a child of mine for taking the life of one of their siblings....

poor karla...

her father is the only one that gets that....her mother and sister need their heads examined...

we as a public were made fools of because of how the government did the deal.....funny how she was pretty smart in getting out just in time when she needed to....when they were getting close...

but not smart enough to put a stop to him before he kidnapped or killed....

any person with a conscience would have sacrificed for their sibling...just one little yell upstairs to her parents and it would have been over and done with....

right or wrong is a choice....

and she made her choice....

she doesn't get to live in peace...

she gave that up when she made her choice....

its called a consequence....

nuff said...

:beer:

well put my friend, well put.....
that's what many believe and have been saying all along, I posted a few times in this forum

....Did Jane Doe ever recieve justice for the crime inflicted on her? If not, then why???????

I have google mail send me news clips whenever that woman's name is mentioned in the media, I'd hate to have that creepy thing for a neighbour. Even if the legal authorities feel she isn't a threat, I can't forget what she's done, and I don't trust her, I believe she should be monitored like other perverted pedophiles. IF her crime was less severe (which it isn't) then sure, she deserves to live her life quietly, but her crimes are too atrocious, worst, done against CHILDREN not just one child, but many!

She should be where her ugly husband is, in jail. (and not that sorry excuse of a jail she was in before, partying and living up the good life)

Of course this is just my opinion.

[2L8 4A D8]

I would probably have a different opinion of Karla had she:

When she was asked by Paul to help him rape Jane Doe, did she run screaming to her Parents or the Police or anything!

When she was asked by Paul to help him rape her baby sister, did she run screaming to her Parents or the Police or anything!

When she was asked by Paul to help him rape, torture and eventually kill, dismember and dispose of Leslie, did she run screaming to her Parents or the Police or anything!

When she was asked by Paul to help him kidnap, rape, torture and eventually kill and dispose of Kristen, did she run screaming to her Parents or the Police or anything!

Was Karla bound and gagged? No!
Was there a gun pointed to Karla's head? No!
Was Karla ever left alone in the house? Yes!
Did she run screaming to her Parents or the Police or anything! No!

After all of the above, I am supposed to feel sorry for Karla? Karla has served her time so I am supposed to let her live her life and leave her alone?

Sorry, I don't think so!

JMO and MOO!!

[henahed]

Originally posted by northernrflxn




"I think she is pretty savvy and will know to stay away from the wrong people. I think she will lead a quiet, successful life and never get into trouble again. She will quietly disappear into the woodwork."

You know what Northern, although you and I could never agree on very much, I really do think that your prophecy has come true on this account. It is sweet of you not to give up hope for her.

JMO and MOO!!

[henahed]

Man!! You make Nancy look like Mother Theresa.

I bet your co workers are all terrified of you.

JMO & MOO!!

[henahed]

The biggest eye in the sky is the moon.

Have a good one!

[dmnckray]

She will probably have to go hide again after the movie is released...

[argus1000]

Originally posted by Sasha1122
I've been very interested in this case for years, and I've come to a conclusion about Karla which is probably not a popular one. I think that if Karla had never met Paul, she would have likely lived a very crime-free productive life. She is not the first woman to be so sexually obsessed by a man that she would do anything for him. Remember that Karla was very young when she got involved with Paul Bernardo. She was determined to do whatever it took to make him happy - even help him kill and kidnap young women. This passionate, obsessive, sexually deviant relationship was one that escalated over time. But clearly Karla was victimized by Paul too. One has only to look at some of the pictures of her beaten face to know that. That does not excuse her for her part in the deaths of her sister, Leslie, and Kristin. She has served 12 years in prison. She was vilified for having a relationship (via mail) with a male prisoner who had killed his girlfriend. She can't leave her house without fear for her life. For the rest of her life she will have to live with what she did, and no one else will ever look past what she did and give her a chance at leading a normal life. Many murderous people responsible for heinous crimes have gotten out of prison and lived productive lives. But I guess no one on this board believes in redemption of any kind. Not where she is concerned, and that puzzles me. Is it because she is bi-sexual? I'm well aware of the deviant nature of her relationship with Bernardo, but that does not mean that I think she is beyond redemption

I totally agree with your opinion, Sasha. When you are 17, you are vulnerable to bad influences. Your character isn't formed yet. Now she knows better. She's done her time, I wish people would leave her alone.

[argus1000]

Originally posted by joanw_123




If she lived next door to you.....would you not keep an eye on her?

No. I'm positive she won't re-offend.

[mnoffki]

Did she physically kill these girls? In light of what happened, I don't think it makes a difference. She did nothing to stop it, and she actually did hold the anesthetic on her sister's nose and mouth that killed her. So, whether she physically did it or not really doesn't matter, because she was there as a willing participant. If her sister's death did not wake her up to her husband's depravity, then she is just as depraved as he is.

She willingly participated in getting girls, raping them, and disposing of them. It's bad enough that she gave her little sister to this man for his birthday, but she killed her as well.

That Karla is on the streets again, free to live her life is an outrage. There is no punishment harsh enough for people like her or that waste of space of a husband she had.

[busythimble]

Originally posted by rasmur
I just wanted to say that I think that Karla Homolka should be left alone. I know that the media say they have a public duty to keep an eye on her, and I have no problem if that's as far as it goes. But I don't trust the media to use discretion in that endeavor. I'm afraid they'll hound her and take photos of her in the hope of making a profit. That won't do anybody any good, and it might even result in more tragedy.
No, this monster should never be "left alone". Anyone who can arrange the murder of her own sister should be hounded to the gates of hell. It's to be hoped she never lives a peaceful moment again.

[mnoffki]

Originally posted by busythimble

No, this monster should never be "left alone". Anyone who can arrange the murder of her own sister should be hounded to the gates of hell. It's to be hoped she never lives a peaceful moment again.

I couldn't agree with you more. I would die for my sister without giving it a second thought, so that BS about her being afraid of Paul really doesn't get any sympathy from me.

[IsItAnyWonder]

Originally posted by mnoffki
Did she physically kill these girls? In light of what happened, I don't think it makes a difference. She did nothing to stop it, and she actually did hold the anesthetic on her sister's nose and mouth that killed her. So, whether she physically did it or not really doesn't matter, because she was there as a willing participant. If her sister's death did not wake her up to her husband's depravity, then she is just as depraved as he is.

She willingly participated in getting girls, raping them, and disposing of them. It's bad enough that she gave her little sister to this man for his birthday, but she killed her as well.

That Karla is on the streets again, free to live her life is an outrage. There is no punishment harsh enough for people like her or that waste of space of a husband she had.


I agree, though as much as it is regretable that she is free to wonder our society, I ask? who is to blame for this major error of the Canadian justice system. I view it as the Da who was so much in a rush for a plea-bargain, that they reduced a sentence of multiple murders to 12 years. That's unthinkable, I hope that a lesson is learned that no plea-bargain will be granted before an investigation is completed. The DA ( Not to mention names ) was in such a rush for notoriety that he permitted this killer to almost walk away.......

Atleast I have the conviction that she will be judged for the rest of her mortal life and then some........

Robert

[Chocoholic]

Originally posted by argus1000


No. I'm positive she won't re-offend.

I'm perfectly ok with that as long as she lives on the other side of the country. If she moves any closer, I may have to become a little more skeptical. 4,000 miles is still too darn close for my liking.

[IsItAnyWonder]

Originally posted by Chocoholic


I'm perfectly ok with that as long as she lives on the other side of the country. If she moves any closer, I may have to become a little more skeptical. 4,000 miles is still too darn close for my liking.

Chocoholic

You seem sure of where she is.... Maybe she's the girl next door ?

RDJ

[deputydi]

Originally posted by Sasha1122
I've been very interested in this case for years, and I've come to a conclusion about Karla which is probably not a popular one. I think that if Karla had never met Paul, she would have likely lived a very crime-free productive life. She is not the first woman to be so sexually obsessed by a man that she would do anything for him.
Couldn't the same thing be said of Paul? He didn't commit his first murder until he met and married Karla. These were two sick, needy people who together formed a lethal bond. I was, and still am, appalled at the "deal with the devil" the Canadian gov't made.

I have always wondered why they chose not to void their deal with her once those tapes were discovered. One condition of any plea is total honesty -- the tapes conclusively proved that she violated this term.

[elvislives]

Originally posted by deputydi

Couldn't the same thing be said of Paul? He didn't commit his first murder until he met and married Karla. These were two sick, needy people who together formed a lethal bond. I was, and still am, appalled at the "deal with the devil" the Canadian gov't made.

I have always wondered why they chose not to void their deal with her once those tapes were discovered. One condition of any plea is total honesty -- the tapes conclusively proved that she violated this term.

Excellent point. I always wonder what kind of sentence Paul Bernardo's accomplice would have received if he were a man. I think the criminal justice system is very gender biased. And why that plea bargain was never overturned is a mystery to me.

[mnoffki]

Originally posted by elvislives


Excellent point. I always wonder what kind of sentence Paul Bernardo's accomplice would have received if he were a man. I think the criminal justice system is very gender biased. And why that plea bargain was never overturned is a mystery to me.

It's absolutely gender biased. This is why Karla is free and why so many of these child raping female teachers get off scot free. Sick isn't it?

[deputydi]

Originally posted by elvislives
Excellent point. I always wonder what kind of sentence Paul Bernardo's accomplice would have received if he were a man. I think the criminal justice system is very gender biased. And why that plea bargain was never overturned is a mystery to me.
I totally respect our system of justice and believe that most of the time it works. You may be right, however, about the gender bias. I hate to admit it, but too often I see women getting sentencing breaks and wonder if that same judge would offer the same break to a man who committed an identical crime.

We fought long and hard to achieve equality but it should apply to equality in sentencing also.

[Chocoholic]

Originally posted by IsItAnyWonder


Chocoholic

You seem sure of where she is.... Maybe she's the girl next door ?

RDJ

I'm sure she is not in this small town. ;)

[mnoffki]

Originally posted by deputydi

I totally respect our system of justice and believe that most of the time it works. You may be right, however, about the gender bias. I hate to admit it, but too often I see women getting sentencing breaks and wonder if that same judge would offer the same break to a man who committed an identical crime.

We fought long and hard to achieve equality but it should apply to equality in sentencing also.

Perfect and clear cut example of gender bias in the courts is the Florida pedophile who was given a break because she was " too pretty to go to jail". I would like to see a man try to get away with that one.

Karla's case was just more subtle, though not much more. She was clearly a willing participant. Though, yes, Paul did abuse her, she had every opportunity to escape the situation and put a stop to it. If her sister's death was not a wake up call, which is still something that I cannot wrap my mind around, then to me, she's as big a piece of you know what than Paul is. JMO

[Xainia]

Guys get off for lack of height.. well this one did.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0605/26/ng.01.html

Xainia

[northernrflxn]

There's a bias alright. A bias as in if Karla was ugly and/or 300 pounds she probably wouldn't have people trying to slowly peck her to death. She got a lighter sentence because she had a secondary role in many elements of the crimes, she provided evidence against a truly dangerous man, and because her peception and judgement were demonstrably compromised. She was a different criminal than Paul, with a different culpability and different level of future dangerousness. Different criminal = different sentence. Makes sense to me.

[markdmin]

jeez i'm gonna puke...homolka is about as dangerous as they come...she has demonstrated the ability to kill with extreme cruelty...

this woman participated in the rape and killing of her own sister...think about that...then on top of it...she showed what can only be considered an evil lack of remorse...including belittling her father for his grief...a grief he felt because thought that to some extent his own actions contributed to his daughters death...

just imagine, you are perfectly aware that it was your actions that resulted in rape and death of sister...your actions of abetting the drugging and intoxication of sister that led to her choking on her own barf in front of your very eyes (and save for posterity on videotape)...and then, when your father exhibits grief...because he feels his own permissiveness in allowing daughter to have drink on holiday led to her death...you turn around and belittle the man stating things like "why doesnt he get over it"...or "he is ruining my wedding"...and you have no compunction about doing this publically in letter to friends...wtf...thats unbelievably cold...there are bloated dead carp floating on shore of lake ontario warmer and more human than that...if evil exists in some form...THATS IT!...RIGHT THERE!...there is no explanation for that...no justification or rationalization...that is a total, unmitigated, abject, unadulterated lack of compassion...

because homolka didnt instigate these crimes (and i'm not sure i believe that - bernardo was a rapist that graduated to kidnap/killer when joined with homolka), if anything, makes her more dangerous...she is malleable...her morality and actions are at control of any psycho or degenerate hooks up with...the sky is the limit...no depth of depravity to low...

homolka was a willing participant....she liked it....dont kid yourself...

[mnoffki]

jeez i'm gonna puke...homolka is about as dangerous as they come...she has demonstrated the ability to kill with extreme cruelty...

this woman participated in the rape and killing of her own sister...think about that...then on top of it...she showed what can only be considered an evil lack of remorse...including belittling her father for his grief...a grief he felt because thought that to some extent his own actions contributed to his daughters death...

just imagine, you are perfectly aware that it was your actions that resulted in rape and death of sister...your actions of abetting the drugging and intoxication of sister that led to her choking on her own barf in front of your very eyes (and save for posterity on videotape)...and then, when your father exhibits grief...because he feels his own permissiveness in allowing daughter to have drink on holiday led to her death...you turn around and belittle the man stating things like "why doesnt he get over it"...or "he is ruining my wedding"...and you have no compunction about doing this publically in letter to friends...wtf...thats unbelievably cold...there are bloated dead carp floating on shore of lake ontario warmer and more human than that...if evil exists in some form...THATS IT!...RIGHT THERE!...there is no explanation for that...no justification or rationalization...that is a total, unmitigated, abject, unadulterated lack of compassion...

because homolka didnt instigate these crimes (and i'm not sure i believe that - bernardo was a rapist that graduated to kidnap/killer when joined with homolka), if anything, makes her more dangerous...she is malleable...her morality and actions are at control of any psycho or degenerate hooks up with...the sky is the limit...no depth of depravity to low...

homolka was a willing participant....she liked it....dont kid yourself...

:beer: You said it better than I ever could, and I thank you for that.

This woman should still be rotting in prison or dead. There is no excuse. I don't believe for a minute that she is any less guilty than her sicko husband. A person like that being out on the streets is an insult to her victims and an insult to society.

[The R]

Sigh. No, Kiki, I'm not sick. I'm just into facts. I find what the court called Homolka's 'somewhat secondary role' relevant, and so should you.


Hey northern-whatever.

I got an idea. Why not send Karla and Paul down to the great state of Texas? Why they can even fire up ol' Sparky the electric chair for 'em and strap 'em in at the same time......and if it really upsets you, you can give 'em a great big bye-bye hug right before they.................


AllMO.......

R

[Paul Richardson]

The R--totally agree--too bad Canada doesn't have the death penalty but if Bernardo and Karla had done their crimes here in Florida they would have been executed by now or at least Bernardo would have been--Here in Florida, as you do in Texas,we deal with these sadistic criminals the proper way--I believe that after the Bernardo horrors there was some talk in Canada of restoring the death penalty but then it "died" out--However, with this pig farmer Robert Pickton's 17 murders revealed in Vancouver recently,maybe the death penalty restoration talk will start up again---I noticed that Japan recently executed four murderers the same day around Christmas last year, so they are at least still implementing it

[Auntie Venom]

I first encountered the Holmolka story on the main page and read it with great interest. I wonder if she would have committed criminal acts on her own. As I do not know the woman, I can't say for sure. But that kind of depravity is not the fault of others. Many women suffer extreme and profound abuse, things that I cannot imagine and do not want to. They go on to lead productive lives, some even try to help and guide other victims. Holmolka engaged in sociopathy. Do I believe that she would have without Bernardo? Yes I do. It may not have been sexual crime, but she would have stepped out of line. This person appears to believe that she is above the law. Bernardo may have been the spark, but the fuse was there just waiting for ignition.
I would be terrified to have her live anywhere near me. She may never offend again, but I wouldn't want her for a neighbor. IMO she has not paid society what she owed. I have no problem with someone who has paid their debt, but I do not believe she has. She contributed to the deaths of three people, on her own sister. That debt cannot be paid in twelve years. Period.
Her family has only my deepest sympathy. I cannot imagine what their lives have been like. Thanks for listening.

[luvthelaw]

I just posted, asking for news on Karla and lookie lookie. Unbelievable.

[2L8 4A D8]

<snipped>

Her family has only my deepest sympathy. I cannot imagine what their lives have been like. Thanks for listening.

Karla's Mother and middle Sister do not have any problems with the fact that Karla participated in the rape and murder of her baby Sister. Her Dad, on the other hand, still has a problem with it. I do not have any sympathy whatsoever for the Homolka's!

Thanks for listening!

JMO and MOO!!

:rose: For Tammy!
:rose: For Leslie!
:rose: For Kristen!

[Damselina]

The only news article most Canadians want to see is "Karla Homolka found with a knife through her brain!!!"

:lol: How very true!!

[Damselina]

I totally agree with your opinion, Sasha. When you are 17, you are vulnerable to bad influences. Your character isn't formed yet. Now she knows better. She's done her time, I wish people would leave her alone.


Good lordy :no: Come to Toronto and make that comment. She hasn't even begun to do the time she deserves. She was the bad influence. Paul was only a rapist until he met his psychotic bride.

[Auntie Venom]

Karla's Mother and middle Sister do not have any problems with the fact that Karla participated in the rape and murder of her baby Sister. Her Dad, on the other hand, still has a problem with it. I do not have any sympathy whatsoever for the Homolka's!

Thanks for listening!

JMO and MOO!!

:rose: For Tammy!
:rose: For Leslie!
:rose: For Kristen!

You are right here, I didn't know that there were people in the family who were in her corner. I don't see how that is possible, but there are often weird things going on under the surface in families. Let me amend myself: Her father has my sympathy, as he seems to at least halfway get it.

[Canadian Bum]

Wish i knew this earlier..... Court TV Canada - Homicide File- features Karla and Paul. Shame its over at 7 pm.

[goatgirl]

Good lordy :no: Come to Toronto and make that comment. She hasn't even begun to do the time she deserves. She was the bad influence. Paul was only a rapist until he met his psychotic bride.

Damselina,

being a former Toronto gal myself I agree ( I'm out West now but it still counts :beer:)

this case was like no other~ it was simply horrible.

[diamond d]

Anyone know a link with her most recent pics?

[Canadian Bum]

I woke to the rumors that Karla had not only gotten married but had also given birth to a baby boy. I believe these rumors to be false.

[Chocoholic]

I totally agree with your opinion, Sasha. When you are 17, you are vulnerable to bad influences. Your character isn't formed yet. Now she knows better. She's done her time, I wish people would leave her alone.
Oh please, even a 5 year old knows whether it's right or wrong to harm another being.

[Chocoholic]

jeez i'm gonna puke...homolka is about as dangerous as they come...she has demonstrated the ability to kill with extreme cruelty...

this woman participated in the rape and killing of her own sister...think about that...then on top of it...she showed what can only be considered an evil lack of remorse...including belittling her father for his grief...a grief he felt because thought that to some extent his own actions contributed to his daughters death...

just imagine, you are perfectly aware that it was your actions that resulted in rape and death of sister...your actions of abetting the drugging and intoxication of sister that led to her choking on her own barf in front of your very eyes (and save for posterity on videotape)...and then, when your father exhibits grief...because he feels his own permissiveness in allowing daughter to have drink on holiday led to her death...you turn around and belittle the man stating things like "why doesnt he get over it"...or "he is ruining my wedding"...and you have no compunction about doing this publically in letter to friends...wtf...thats unbelievably cold...there are bloated dead carp floating on shore of lake ontario warmer and more human than that...if evil exists in some form...THATS IT!...RIGHT THERE!...there is no explanation for that...no justification or rationalization...that is a total, unmitigated, abject, unadulterated lack of compassion...

because homolka didnt instigate these crimes (and i'm not sure i believe that - bernardo was a rapist that graduated to kidnap/killer when joined with homolka), if anything, makes her more dangerous...she is malleable...her morality and actions are at control of any psycho or degenerate hooks up with...the sky is the limit...no depth of depravity to low...

homolka was a willing participant....she liked it....dont kid yourself...

Considering she was the older sister, one would think she would have had some engrained sense of protection over her younger sibling. On the contrary she tortured, raped and killed her.

She's safe to be around, as long as her community consists of hungry polar bear.

[2L8 4A D8]

:beer: I'm with you on this one. The only thing that gives me peace of mind is that she most likely will be denied entry into the US. What gives with anyone trying to defend or explain away what she did to her little sister? Not only did she help defile and kill her sister, she destroyed her parent's lives. She should not be free. No, she should not be alive. God Bless Texas!!!

I guess you haven't had the displeasure of meeting a certain Poster who is pro-Karla ~ BIG TIME! From Day 1 on this Board and Threads, she has defended and explained what Karla did to her little sister and the other two innocent victims. Going so far as stating that Karla is the classic example of the Battered Wife Syndrome or something like that! And if you believe that, I've got some real nice beachfront property in the Florida Everglades that I will sell you real cheap! LOL!

JMO and MOO!!

[mnoffki]

I agree, though as much as it is regretable that she is free to wonder our society, I ask? who is to blame for this major error of the Canadian justice system. I view it as the Da who was so much in a rush for a plea-bargain, that they reduced a sentence of multiple murders to 12 years. That's unthinkable, I hope that a lesson is learned that no plea-bargain will be granted before an investigation is completed. The DA ( Not to mention names ) was in such a rush for notoriety that he permitted this killer to almost walk away.......

Atleast I have the conviction that she will be judged for the rest of her mortal life and then some........

Robert

This is a case where the justice system has failed miserably and made a mockery of itself and the victims involved.

I do hope she never finds peace.

[cami]

You know what Northern, although you and I could never agree on very much, I really do think that your prophecy has come true on this account. It is sweet of you not to give up hope for her.

JMO and MOO!!

LOL, it's not Northern's prophecy...it was Paul Bernado's lawyer who made that statement.

[cami]

The one who helped murder her younger sister & 2 other girls for deviant sexual purposes . She doesn't even have to register as a sexual predator.Totally disgusting human :flamemad:

She wasn't charged with sex crimes that's why. She was charged with and served 12 years for manslaughter.

[cami]

Excellent point. I always wonder what kind of sentence Paul Bernardo's accomplice would have received if he were a man. I think the criminal justice system is very gender biased. And why that plea bargain was never overturned is a mystery to me.

A male accomplice most likely would have been declared a DO, dangerous offender, if charged with sex crimes, and that means an indeterminate sentence...just as Paul has. Paul got life for the murders and in Canada that's 25 years. I don't know what he got for the Scarborough rapes..have to go and google that. The Crown then has six months to apply for DO status.

That plea bargain was never overturned because Karla refused to testify in court against Paul without it. Getting Paul locked up for life was paramount. She actually received two pleas, the one crafted in 1993 would have been overturned and she would have faced full prosecution, however on the eve of Paul's trial, they crafted a new deal and gave her the blanket immunity.

Regardless, she would have received a deal whether they had those tapes or not.

[cami]

Good lordy :no: Come to Toronto and make that comment. She hasn't even begun to do the time she deserves. She was the bad influence. Paul was only a rapist until he met his psychotic bride.

I disagree. Each of Paul's rapes was more violent than the last. The profilers predicted the rapist would kill eventually. His lifelong friends suspected he was the killer and went to the cops. Based on his violent behaviour toward women. He was raping, choking and beating his girlfriends long before he met Karla.

I know that's what author Stephen Williams believes and what he broadcasts but there is one flaw in his theory. He thinks Karla beat Kristen to death while Paul was out of the house...yet Kristen died from asphxiation

[Canadian Bum]

I need a favour :) could someone from Montreal PM me? I need to confirm something. TIA

[cami]

I agree, though as much as it is regretable that she is free to wonder our society, I ask? who is to blame for this major error of the Canadian justice system. I view it as the Da who was so much in a rush for a plea-bargain, that they reduced a sentence of multiple murders to 12 years. That's unthinkable, I hope that a lesson is learned that no plea-bargain will be granted before an investigation is completed. The DA ( Not to mention names ) was in such a rush for notoriety that he permitted this killer to almost walk away.......

Atleast I have the conviction that she will be judged for the rest of her mortal life and then some........

Robert

Karla is not unique. Have you ever heard of Charlene Gallego? She too helped her husband abduct, rape and murder over 10 women..most of them teenagers. She received 16 years for her part in the crimes. She was parolled after serving her 16 years and is as free to walk the streets of the US as Karla is free to walk the streets of Canada. Plea bargains..they always want to get the more dangerous partner.

p.s. we have CAs in Canada, not DAs

"At least as high a toll as that exacted by Gerald and Charlene Gallego. In the late seventies, the Sacramento, California couple kidnapped and killed ten people. Most of their victims were teenage girls, lured and captured in well-planned schemes, the ultimate goal of which was to provide a steady procession of disposable “love slaves.” Depending on whose story you believe, Charlene Gallego was either a reluctant facilitator of, or a willing participant in her husband Gerald’s tragic extended binge. After the couple’s apprehension, Charlene claimed that Gerald had beaten and intimidated her into helping him, but Gerald, for his part, insisted that she had taken part in the assaults and killings. “We had this sexual fantasy see, so we just carried it out,” Charlene later recounted chillingly. “I mean, like it was easy and fun and we really enjoyed it, so why shouldn’t we do it?”

[IsItAnyWonder]

Karla is not unique. Have you ever heard of Charlene Gallego? She too helped her husband abduct, rape and murder over 10 women..most of them teenagers. She received 16 years for her part in the crimes. She was parolled after serving her 16 years and is as free to walk the streets of the US as Karla is free to walk the streets of Canada. Plea bargains..they always want to get the more dangerous partner.

p.s. we have CAs in Canada, not DAs

"At least as high a toll as that exacted by Gerald and Charlene Gallego. In the late seventies, the Sacramento, California couple kidnapped and killed ten people. Most of their victims were teenage girls, lured and captured in well-planned schemes, the ultimate goal of which was to provide a steady procession of disposable “love slaves.” Depending on whose story you believe, Charlene Gallego was either a reluctant facilitator of, or a willing participant in her husband Gerald’s tragic extended binge. After the couple’s apprehension, Charlene claimed that Gerald had beaten and intimidated her into helping him, but Gerald, for his part, insisted that she had taken part in the assaults and killings. “We had this sexual fantasy see, so we just carried it out,” Charlene later recounted chillingly. “I mean, like it was easy and fun and we really enjoyed it, so why shouldn’t we do it?”

Although they were couples who perpetrated atrocities, there were some
unmistakable differences. For one: G.Gallego was very violent with his
girlfriends and wives and that from the beginning.

On July 12, 1966, Gerald again married. His bride was a twenty-four year old waitress form West Sacramento. However, just twenty-six days after it began, the marriage fell apart. It appears Gerald enjoyed beating the **** out of his new bride and chasing her around with knives.

The obvious difference between Charlene Gallego and Karla Homolka. While Karla participated in the sexual sadism and perversion along with her husband there is no indication that Charlene Gallego ever participated in the actual rapes themselves.

One thing they did have in common is that they were both convicted of murder.

IMO Karla's relation with Paul did not start with her being scared of him, but
rather fascinated by him.:read:

P.S. The use Da's is voluntary, since most readers are accustomed to it's representativeness

IsItAnyWonder

[cami]

Although they were couples who perpetrated atrocities, there were some
unmistakable differences. For one: G.Gallego was very violent with his
girlfriends and wives and that from the beginning.

Yeah so was Paul....he was beating and anally raping his girlfriends long before Karla came along.

On July 12, 1966, Gerald again married. His bride was a twenty-four year old waitress form West Sacramento. However, just twenty-six days after it began, the marriage fell apart. It appears Gerald enjoyed beating the **** out of his new bride and chasing her around with knives.

The obvious difference between Charlene Gallego and Karla Homolka. While Karla participated in the sexual sadism and perversion along with her husband there is no indication that Charlene Gallego ever participated in the actual rapes themselves.

Is her word good enough? She admitted it. She and Karla are two of a kind.


One thing they did have in common is that they were both convicted of murder.

Yep neither was convicted of sex crimes...Karla was convicted of manslaughter.

IMO Karla's relation with Paul did not start with her being scared of him, but
rather fascinated by him.:read:

And Charlene was afraid of her husband from the beginning? Not what I read about her. Regardless, the two cases are very similar IMO.

P.S. The use Da's is voluntary, since most readers are accustomed to it's representativeness



IsItAnyWonder

LOL, okay. One thing I am is PC

[IsItAnyWonder]

There's steam coming off those red words.....:lol:

IsItAnyWonder;)

[sharlock]

I agree that the recent 'outing' of Homolka served no purpose beyond the enrichment of the folks at Global. The interests of Karla Bernardo and society are one and the same in this instance; she should be left alone to put together a semi-normal life and not driven underground. John Rosen, Bernardo's defense attorney and nemesis of Karla Homolka all those years ago said this leading up to her release last year:

"She had to go in there and do her time," he says. "She didn't crumble. She didn't panic. She cannot possibly be the same person now. I think she must have found an internal strength she probably didn't know existed."

Denying her a livelihood or a place to live now, he reasons, will make society no safer. "I think she is pretty savvy and will know to stay away from the wrong people. I think she will lead a quiet, successful life and never get into trouble again. She will quietly disappear into the woodwork."
I do see your point however so often it is the victims who are forgotten in our great race to be fair to those who commit the crimes. This was not an accidental killing and she had sufficient time to extricate herself from the relationship if that had been her wish instead she married and then took some pleasure in destroying others lives. These are deepseated issued indicative of a psycopath and no amount of jail time is going to fix that little problem it may only serve to give her the ability to hide her true nature better. IMHO we should be more concerned with the victims families then if Karlas privacy is being invaded.

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