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Babes

06-09-2006, 08:28 PM

I posted this on one thread but someone said maybe this should be on another thread. There is no thread for Psychic yet since the moderators merged most of the topics so i am just creating this new one so that i can deliver my message to some psychics out there

To Esah and Other Pychics out there:

On all the men and women we talked about on this case... Is anyone bothering you at all? I am just curious about this... I know you are focusing your abilities with Tara but what about trying to do the other way? Is there a possibilities that you check some people in this case and see if you get anything? How do you feel about AV? MH? HD? Mr P?, Larry?, RR? ME? Anita? SF? ML? Some of their pictures are posted on this board.... Did you feel anything when you saw their pictures at all?

concernedperson

06-09-2006, 10:11 PM

I am not a true psychic at all. I have had Tara invade my dreams and she is part of my life for whatever reason.I can assure that I am not in for profit and wouldn't accept it if it was offered. I just don't know where else to go. I don't want to give up but I am less than hopeful.

concernedperson

06-09-2006, 10:13 PM

Another thing, my post count is greatly reduced. Why?

Babes

06-09-2006, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by concernedperson
Another thing, my post count is greatly reduced. Why?

Coz the mods removed couple threads that contains our post LOL . I have over 2k post also and ended up with less now. Well i hope they do this to make the board faster to load :D

Babes

06-09-2006, 10:19 PM

I remember my old post before regarding my dream about Tara and the word "voy" came out. I tried to follow Esah's little instructions on how to go back to my dreams but i am not getting anything anymore but while trying to read some postings.... could it be the "voy" on my dream is about the "voy" forum where ME posted something?

cbcrime

06-09-2006, 11:11 PM

I am not psychic but I did talk to someone who is. She has never heard of Tara. She said she felt that she was about 32. She felt she was dead - she didn't know why. She said she was very hard to read. She felt she would be found that her body would be bones and wouldn't give many clues. She felt she was East and slightly south of her house. She felt it was a marshy area or short grass a field off a road. That it might have had water at one time. She felt they have already looked in this area.

She sees two young men - hispanic looking. She doesn't know if it was robbery or they were hired. She felt it happened really quickly and that she might have been going to her car. But she said Tara was really hard to read and that she might not be picking it up correctly.

She also said she did not feel like she would have just left. That she had important things - stuff in her life and wouldn't just leave. I did ask if Tara maybe knew something - was afraid - maybe drug related. She said it sounded like it could be but she reallly could not tell. She might have been afraid.

The psychic was really clear that it was hard to read Tara - so she might not have picked up correct details. She did feel that she was gone. I know this is really not like anyone elses dreams or insights. I thought I would just put this out there for what it is worth.

Babes

06-09-2006, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by Babes
I remember my old post before regarding my dream about Tara and the word "voy" came out. I tried to follow Esah's little instructions on how to go back to my dreams but i am not getting anything anymore but while trying to read some postings.... could it be the "voy" on my dream is about the "voy" forum where ME posted something?

Ive'd been googling Voy and Tara Grinstead and it looks like one poster there even posted the phone number of Tara Grinstead. The post was deleted but the cached is still available at google:

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Miss Relay for life this weekend!!!!!! With a very LOW ENTRY FEE $ 25.00 Age Divisions 10 thru 12 13 thru 16 and 17 thru 22 yrs of age. Numbers are low come on and help out!!!!! Call director Tara Grinstead at 229 468 8478 if not at home leave a message

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The post is originally posted here http://www.voy.com/81301/5935.html

but the cached link is here:
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:eyKu_JLu6fwJ:www.voy.com/81301/5935.html+tara+grinstead+voy&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=4

Babes

06-09-2006, 11:57 PM

There is also one person who did an EVP for Tara and i remembered that that person also posted here before but i dont know where the thread is but here is the link to his EVP:

http://home.columbus.rr.com/lsweb/

Insert from that EVP:
These EVP where collected by using a Sony IC recorder. I would record in a quiet room and sometimes would run water in the sink to add a little background noise. The only editing I did was to amplify and filter out hiss.
These are whispers in the background so you will want to use a headset and listen to each one a few times to hear the words.

It's Freddie This one is real quiet and sounds like a child
Sounds good
Want to say, love you
Sherry
He could know. Not possible. 2 ghosts talking to each other?
Jeffery not sure of this
This Jewel
Possible to meet me
Boy, it's cold
Let me see the children She must be talking to someone else, I don't have any children.
We come soon
Talk to us
Justin
Help me
Justin is here
Larry, you can talk to me
Love you. Lived up there
Talk to me Tara, he is here
Can you help Larry
I've been coming late
Somebody is helping me
I must leave
Hey there Larry. Don't cover me
You're talking to me
You freed me
You'll never get my voice
Ethan here
Made me happy
Come here. Jimmy can hear me
Larry, you can see me
You came, Larry
Larry, it's me
Jimmy can talk to me
I love her
I'm here, Larry
Look, Larry's here, Sara
I'll just go save this
Louis here
You couild leave us here
I love him. What? Two spirits talking
These two are from a session I did on Tara Grinstead.
kill me I got a name on this one, I'll let you decide what name is mentioned
David this is Tara A message for the family or a friend of Tara's?

Some people are good in translating the EVP that was done in Laci Peterson case so maybe you guys can analyze this EVP too.

Babes

06-10-2006, 12:08 AM

Steve Huff's Blog also mentioned a psychic who contacted him about this case. We talked about this long time ago and some said this psychic mentioned that the name of the Rd is similar to the ex-boyfriend which a lot of posters thought it is Harper Rd ( there is a name before Harper and i cant remember it ) but according to some that rd has a new name which is Snapdragon Rd and that is the location of the burnt house.

I also received a message from a psychic.

I am what I’d describe as a reluctant skeptic. That is, I want to believe, and even would like to think I’ve had a couple of moments in my life that I can’t explain outside of psychic phenomena. One or two speculations I wrote out in this blog in the past were prescient enough to make others actually ask me if I was—but at bottom I cannot claim I am and convince myself.

However, with the caveat in mind that I have no idea where this person is, geographically, or if he knows anything about the area around Ocilla, Georgia, what he wrote was interesting. I was able to find a road on the map in Douglas, GA, over 20 miles to the east of Ocilla, the name of which closely matched a road name he came up with, and a type of recreational facility near the road that this person stated would be near the road in question. It was enough to make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up… but even the psychic admitted it is always a good idea to be skeptical—it’s healthy.

The psychic also indicated that enough evidence was left behind that the person or persons who caused Tara to disappear will be linked to her when she is found. He stated, too, that something may have been overlooked when authorities searched Tara’s home earlier this week.

This last did prick my skepticism, but as the psychic stated he charged no one any money for what he did I was polite and tried to be as open-minded as possible. I just felt a little skeptical that as elite a law-enforcement agency as the Georgia Bureau of Investigation would miss much of anything in such an investigation.

http://huffcrimeblog.com/?p=354

Esah

06-10-2006, 02:40 PM

Babes,
Thank you for asking for my input. In all the names that have been discussed on here and other forums, the man I see that took Tara, has not been discussed. None of the common names even get a rise out of me. I never for one minute thought MH had anything to do with this. The only thing I think MH is guilty of is not giving Tara the concern she wanted him to have.

I feel that the man who took Tara is in LE (or military because of the black shiny shoes I saw) and he is not local now, but I feel that he used to be.

His plan to take Tara, was right down to the letter. He even had notes the day he took her, so that he wouldn't forget anything important. He can appear invisible if he wants to. Very highly trained in surveilance. His motives were mainly to have Tara in a place that no one would find her, to make MH look involved and cause him a lot of grief, and to keep Tara from talking about something only she and he knew. (not sure what that was though) He drives a dark truck, and Is married.

I am not comfortable putting his initials on here. He is frightening to me and I would rather put all my energy into finding Tara than talking about him. I would also rather surprise him, than give him any idea that I am thinking about him.

Any way, the bottom line is, "where is Tara" right? That is where my focus stays. I see her in Ambrose, Ga and hope that she is still there and not been moved.

As a footnote: I have had two dreams of Tara being pregnant. The second one was last night!

I hope this helps you Babes, you have stayed with the focus being on Tara and that is the only reason I have replied to this post, because it came from you. So many others have had dramas going on that I simply don't want to be a part of.

Good luck!
Esah

Babes

06-10-2006, 02:49 PM

Thank You Esah

I really appreciate your response. Did you see my post above regarding my dream about "voy"? Could it be pertaining to the "voy forum"? I'd see Tara's phone number is even listed in that forum....

Babes

06-10-2006, 02:53 PM

Esah,
There is one post by dixiegirl on the googled cached here at CTV regarding one weird post at the guestbook of findtara board:

This is the original post placed in the "guestbook" for the family on the "findtara.com" website.

Date: 2/12/2006, 4:13 am, EST
Name: angela
Number: 1,520

I'm sorry to post this here, but I want to be sure someone involved in searching sees it. If you have searched this spot already, fine, but if not, it's worth a try. She is indeed wonderful, judging by how much her students, family, and just folks love her.
Lat 31.668 Long -82.98
Ashton School Road, Wray, GA, about 8 km NNE of Ambrose, GA. Patch of pines across the road from some big fields, in the triangular wooded section between Griffin Road and Newt's Lane.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:3Qyc8l1wqg8J:boards.courttv.com/showthread.php%3Fs%3D665f4e002d456dcdbe8bab0a8c9c6 877%26postid%3D7687013+tara+grinstead+ambrose+geor gia&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=4

concernedperson

06-10-2006, 07:02 PM

I am going to mention this and I haven't given it much credence in the past. I have had at least 2 psychic oriented people ask me about a David associated with the case. I believe I threw it out a while ago or maybe I didn't. In any case, I am not aware of a David.

So just a tidbit of more than likely nothing.

cbcrime

06-10-2006, 08:43 PM

Esah-

It's funny that you says LE or military. The person I spoke to saw a husky man with blonde short hair. She thought he was either military or LE from the way he looked. She said he might have been involved. She did not have a name.

Several people have stated they felt Tara knew something. Does anyone have a feeling or thought on what that might be? Was she aware of some crime? Or what secret did she know?

concernedperson

06-10-2006, 08:53 PM

Does anyone know about a Ben Hill County officer that has been reassigned?

cbcrime

06-10-2006, 09:18 PM

Living out of state I have not heard anything. I went to the Ben Hill Co So website and they did not list officers. Was looking for a David - which is a name that has come up. Thoough can anyone tell me - has meth become a problem in the area? I noticed the website had a poem about meth and a drug unit.

Esah

06-10-2006, 09:27 PM

I'm not sure if that area NE of Ambrose was searched. I remember it because that person was getting a "triangle" in her message too.

My complete insights are all posted on Talk Tara, in a thread entitled "My psychic insights revisited". I really like the way that site is managed. If you would like to read more of what I have received, it is all there.

This site has calmed down considerably, but when I posted this info, it was anything but calm on here.

fsbiii

06-10-2006, 09:31 PM

Keep digging.

You're gonna hit a Ben Hill LE connection.

You're gonna hit a David connection.

You're gonna hit a Tara connection.

cbcrime

06-10-2006, 09:48 PM

fsbiii

Is there any information that you have that you can share?

Matt71 - I really don't have an answer for CP - but from the posts - I do believe the name David was associated with a person - rather than a street/place etc.

cbcrime

06-10-2006, 09:49 PM

Also Eash - thanks for the link to your detailed info.

concernedperson

06-10-2006, 09:54 PM

It is a person. David. Not biblical in nature nor in reference. I can't draw the parameters as my feelings coincide but are not as defined.

concernedperson

06-10-2006, 09:58 PM

Originally posted by fsbiii
Keep digging.

You're gonna hit a Ben Hill LE connection.

You're gonna hit a David connection.

You're gonna hit a Tara connection. Talk to me. PM me here, TalkTara or Websleuths. If you need mypersonal email contact me on any and I will provide.This is extremely importent.

concernedperson

06-10-2006, 10:20 PM

I can get on to TT but I can't retrieve pm's. Remember I was hacked it is better but everything there is slow and I don't have tons of patience. I know someone is trying to pm me. Do it here or websleuths. Then I can go from there

fsbiii

06-10-2006, 10:34 PM

Just what I said, keep digging. I'd rather people find out for themselves than get attacked or dissected over presenting information. I've grown weary of the constant battling. No offense intended to anyone asking tonight. You'll probably sleuth it out by morning!

janis

06-11-2006, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by fsbiii
Just what I said, keep digging. I'd rather people find out for themselves than get attacked or dissected over presenting information. I've grown weary of the constant battling. No offense intended to anyone asking tonight. You'll probably sleuth it out by morning!

fsbiii:

Where's your devil outfit? LOL

Eash, glad you responded to these folks!

Oh yea, whatever happened to Scooby?:D

janis

06-11-2006, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by janis

fsbiii:

Where's your devil outfit? LOL

Eash, glad you responded to these folks!

Oh yea, whatever happened to Scooby?:D

Sorry, that should read Esah, not Eash!!!!!!! I apologize Esah!

Babes

06-11-2006, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by fsbiii
Keep digging.

You're gonna hit a Ben Hill LE connection.

You're gonna hit a David connection.

You're gonna hit a Tara connection.

Ok am trying to dig LOL but can you tell me if i am on a right direction?

I got this... Col John "David" Anderson of Ben Hill County Chief of Operations used to live and work in Ocilla. The Link I got is only a cached from google because it is no longer available in Macon's website.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:lQlauFCQIuAJ:www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/local/states/georgia/counties/houston_peach/13526263.htm+%22john+david+anderson%22+ben+hill&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=8

When he was 14, the Ocilla native said his older brother, Steve, became a police officer. Anderson said having "a cop in the house and around the house" really shaped and fueled his dreams. So much so that he joined a volunteer search-and-rescue team. He wasn't old enough yet to go into law enforcement.

"Kids admire firefighters, cops and EMTs (emergency medical technicians). But there was something more to it," Anderson said. "When my brother got into it, it was more of a calling.

"I just don't think you can take just anybody and make them into a cop. You have to have certain qualities inside - a certain moral and ethical foundation that you've got to have inside to make you a good cop. I believe there's more than sitting in a classroom for 10-and-a-half weeks and somebody telling you just how you do your job," Anderson said.

When Anderson was 17, Ocilla Police Chief Billy Hancock, who had recognized the teenager's interest in law enforcement, allowed him to hang out at the station and get a first-hand look at police operations on a daily basis.

Hancock said he remembers Anderson as a child even before he started spending time at the police department. Hancock and a fellow officer who he rode with on and off were both friends with Anderson's dad, Jim. "I'd see his dad in the yard and stop and talk with him. John David was always one to stick his head in the patrol car and look around. He was always curious about law enforcement."

When he was 18, Anderson got another break. He was hired by the Irwin County Sheriff's Office to fill a part-time slot during the Christmas holiday in 1995. "I expected to work a month as a part-time jailer but I never left."

In April 1997, Hancock, the police chief who had taken Anderson under his wing, hired him as full-time police officer and later promoted him to detective for the city police force, a position he held for five years.

"John David was a real good officer and a real good investigator," Hancock said. "He'd take decisive action based on fact and he was always eager to take on more responsibility. ... I encouraged him early on to develop goals and prepare for future responsibility. He obviously responded."

Anderson's next career move was to assume command of the South Central Drug Task Force. He did that for three years before joining then-newly elected Ben Hill County Sheriff Bobby McLemore as second in command. Anderson continued to serve as the sheriff's chief of operations before accepting in early December the three-year contract as Fort Valley police chief.

Link to the benhill sheriff staff:
http://crime.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=crime&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.benhillcounty.com%2Fsheriff.ht m

Babes

06-11-2006, 12:36 AM

I got this weird feeling that the person above i posted is the person Esah is probably mentioning....:(. This John David used to live in Ocilla and was an old LE cop for 5 years at Ocilla before he got his promotions. Currently he is the chief of operations for Ben Hill County but will be joining another city to be the chief of police. Is this the one you are referring to concernperson?

Babes

06-11-2006, 12:45 AM

More info on John David Anderson:

He began his career in 1995 as a detention officer with the Irwin County Sheriff's Office. While employed with the Ocilla Police Department, Anderson rose from officer to detective, also serving as the neighborhood watch program coordinator and D.A.R.E. officer.

In 2002, he was hired as a senior investigator with the South Central Drug Task Force. He also served as an evidence custodian, marijuana examiner, training officer and clandestine laboratory incident commander.

He graduated with an associate's degree in criminal justice from Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College.

http://www.hr-blog.com/node/4143?PHPSESSID=a6c04771c9d520dbecb0cb40b4d47ca8

Babes

06-11-2006, 01:29 AM

Esah

Hmmm the initials you mentioned at Talktara is JA ... JA for John Anderson?

Babes

06-11-2006, 01:54 AM

According to one Pm i received:

JA=John Anderson used to live in the same street where Tara used to live with her Father and Stepmother before they move to Alabama. And JA is married for 10 years now. I think JA is almost same age as MH . If you google John Anderson Ocilla then you will have the old address of JA.

NancynNC

06-11-2006, 01:55 AM

This is getting creepy. Great work Babes

Babes

06-11-2006, 02:03 AM

Originally posted by NancynNC
This is getting creepy. Great work Babes

I got the chills when the name matched the initial that Esah was giving on her post at TalkTara which is JA. Then come a mysterious name "David' Then this guy has a Ben Hill County Connection and atthe same time used to live on a street where Tara used to live ....Where is this guy that weekend? Did he attended the pageant at Fitzgerald? What is the color of his vehicle? Anyone?

NancynNC

06-11-2006, 02:07 AM

I cannot find anything any more.:confused:

What was that, that Godwin said about some DNA matching LE. I think the story got deleted from CTV Library?

Babes

06-11-2006, 02:10 AM

Originally posted by NancynNC
I cannot find anything any more.:confused:

What was that, that Godwin said about some DNA matching LE. I think the story got deleted from CTV Library?

He said that the DNA doesnt match MH or HD or men discussed on this case and they said that there is still one man who is in LE also but havent provided any DNA yet. Not the exact wordings on the article but i think this is what that article explained and fort some reasons that article was edited LOL

NancynNC

06-11-2006, 03:21 AM

Is this the same JDA mentioned in this article???

http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/14763605.htm

and here??

http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/local/states/georgia/counties/houston_peach/14622902.htm

Babes

06-11-2006, 03:27 AM

Originally posted by NancynNC
Is this the same JDA mentioned in this article???

http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/14763605.htm

and here??

http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/local/states/georgia/counties/houston_peach/14622902.htm

Yes he is the current police chief for New Fort Valley. But in the Ben Hill LE page , his picture is still there as the Chief of Operations. He was assigned as Police Chief for New Fort Valley last January 2006 only.

NancynNC

06-11-2006, 03:30 AM

Originally posted by Babes

Yes he is the current police chief for New Fort Valley. But in the Ben Hill LE page , his picture is still there as the Chief of Operations. He was assigned as Police Chief for New Fort Valley last January 2006 only.

I checked his old address in Ocilla and saw that he lived near MH's dad. They had to all know each other, I would say. Such a small town.

NancynNC

06-11-2006, 03:35 AM

I just had such a sick feeling. You don't think someone would float his info out there for some kind of diversion? Seems like this fellow is moving on up.

simply quiet

06-11-2006, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by NancynNC
Is this the same JDA mentioned in this article???

http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/14763605.htm

and here??

http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/local/states/georgia/counties/houston_peach/14622902.htm

I may be wayyyyy off on this, but a red flag went up for me in the first article here.

Officer DAVID Coleman resigned rather then face desciplinary charges from and auto accident.

It was an accident, he was responding to a call, lights and sirens were on......NO ONE HURT.

Why would he resign? Don't they have a union there that would help fight for this officer?

It seems it wasn't worth resigning over to me anyhow.

Unless there is more to this then what we read.

fsbiii

06-11-2006, 10:54 AM

I knew the overnight shift would work this thing out. :) Nancy, it's not a diversion. He's been on the POI list in many people's minds for quite some time.

BFD - v2.0

06-11-2006, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by Babes
According to one Pm i received:

JA=John Anderson used to live in the same street where Tara used to live with her Father and Stepmother before they move to Alabama. And JA is married for 10 years now. I think JA is almost same age as MH . If you google John Anderson Ocilla then you will have the old address of JA.

Good work Babes. Keep digging.

NancynNC

06-11-2006, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by fsbiii
I knew the overnight shift would work this thing out. :) Nancy, it's not a diversion. He's been on the POI list in many people's minds for quite some time.

So noone looked in a crystal ball and found all this out??
This is not a game, if you know something, spill it. Who are these people who have him as a POI?

fsbiii

06-11-2006, 01:21 PM

Who said it was a game? I just meant that anyone could figure out what I and others figured out about this guy with a little work. His name has been brought up before on other boards and there have been references to him without using his name, too.

NancynNC

06-11-2006, 01:34 PM

It seemed like a game to come over to this board and present it as a dream, reading or whatever. That is what I was saying. You know I do not believe in pychics.;)

NancynNC

06-11-2006, 01:37 PM

If you have him on POI list, please tell us why.
Babes is the best, but maybe you could save her some time.
Tell us the connection to Tara.

fsbiii

06-11-2006, 01:50 PM

Oh, I see... sorry for the confusion!

IMO, no game was being played by anyone. The mention of "David" by cp's source wasn't related to Esah's visions at all. Esah's visions of the perpetrator have been consistent from Day 1 and, in my opinion, seem to fit JDA's profile. I can't speak for Esah or cp or anyone else, but I think a lot of info on JDA has fallen into place at one time in the last little while, so it appears like it's all come about at one time. That isn't true. He has been mentioned by people for many months.

Supposedly he and Tara had a relationship, he was/is married, he lived near Tara's dad's house in Ocilla, worked in local LE, worked for Drug Task Force, and now works LE in Ft. Valley, GA. He also owned property in Irwin Co. on one of the "flower" roads that was sold recently.

I have no idea if this is the guy Godwin was talking about in the CrimeLibrary article that got edited. He would have to answer that. Since Godwin seems to be focused only on Harper as the perp, I'm not sure who he was talking about in the article before the edit took place.

I am told that LE has talked to this guy and that he, along with MANY OTHERS, are names in this investigation. We all know there are no "official" POI's according to LE, but the online community POI list includes this guy.

NancynNC

06-11-2006, 02:05 PM

Thanks fsbii, you can always be counted on for putting it out there and for the truth as far as you know.

I appreciate it.

For what Godwin believes, I wrote down his last words, when he appeared on CC (I taped it), He said, "We have to get rid of this suspect, so we can move on." Of course, he was talking about MH. And Ag has said that she wishes the GBI would talk to some people that they have not talked to yet. Who ever they are???

Going to play the ponies, catch you all tonight.

:seeya:

BFD - v2.0

06-11-2006, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by NancynNC

So noone looked in a crystal ball and found all this out??
This is not a game, if you know something, spill it. Who are these people who have him as a POI?

I'm one of them. But I hate the term "person of interest". It's a politically correct way of saying "suspect". (That actually exists only to circumvent rights)

I just think some of the circumstances are intriguing.

Babes

06-11-2006, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by NancynNC
I cannot find anything any more.:confused:

What was that, that Godwin said about some DNA matching LE. I think the story got deleted from CTV Library?

Godwin says, the GBI has not come up with a match, not from Tara's former boyfriend, not from a police captain in a nearby community with whom she enjoyed a close friendship, not from any of the other men in her life, though, he says there is at least one man, also a friend of Tara's with links to law enforcement who has not yet been swabbed.

http://www.crimeandjustice.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=6725&view=getlastpost+Tara's+former+boyfriend,+not+from +a+police+captain+in+a+nearby

Check Post #98

Esah

06-11-2006, 02:43 PM

NancynNc, I am not in the game playing business. My insights are as real to me as watching a movie is to you. I was very nicely asked a question and because Babes asked it, I answered it.

I operate with integrity. If I say something was a vision, dream, or message then you can bet that it was.

I didn't just come up with this man's name either. It is well documented that I saw him in my earliest visions and LE has all of my documentation as well.

Skeptics have a place in this too, you make sure that everyone is backing up what they are saying. My info is backed up on the Talk Tara site, go read it.

cbcrime

06-11-2006, 03:53 PM

Was the property 225 Daisy Rd?

Babes

06-11-2006, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by cbcrime
Was the property 225 Daisy Rd?

That's the property they purchased last August 2005 and sold it this May 2006and now moved to Fort Valley . There is an older property that they used to live that is the same street where Billy Grinstead used to live.

cbcrime

06-11-2006, 04:55 PM

Thanks Babes - wasn't her parent (Billy) and stepmom's address the 176 Hackberry Ln?

Lindsey

06-11-2006, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by cbcrime
Thanks Babes - wasn't her parent (Billy) and stepmom's address the 176 Hackberry Ln?

No, it wasn't. They lived on Henderson St.

fsbiii

06-11-2006, 05:06 PM

No. Her dad and stepmom lived 1-2 doors down from JDA on Henderson St. in town.

I am pretty certain the Hackberry Lane was a phonebook miscue, not related to Tara at all. There are other similar entries in the same book that are obvious misprints. IMO.

Originally posted by cbcrime
Thanks Babes - wasn't her parent (Billy) and stepmom's address the 176 Hackberry Ln?

cbcrime

06-11-2006, 05:10 PM

Thanks for the clarification - appreciate it.

Babes

06-11-2006, 08:57 PM

This is the old JDA's address

504 W Henderson St, Ocilla, GA 31774

Babes

06-11-2006, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by simply quiet

I may be wayyyyy off on this, but a red flag went up for me in the first article here.

Officer DAVID Coleman resigned rather then face desciplinary charges from and auto accident.

It was an accident, he was responding to a call, lights and sirens were on......NO ONE HURT.

Why would he resign? Don't they have a union there that would help fight for this officer?

It seems it wasn't worth resigning over to me anyhow.

Unless there is more to this then what we read.

Anderson also fired a 26 year old veteran for missing drugs on the evidence room

A longtime police officer responsible for overseeing the Fort Valley police evidence room has been fired after undisclosed quantities of crack cocaine, powder cocaine and marijuana were discovered missing.

Capt. W.K. Richardson, a 26-year veteran of the police department, was fired Friday after declining to accept disciplinary action that would have allowed him to stay on the force until his expected retirement next year, Fort Valley Police Chief John David Anderson said.

Richardson also was given the option of resigning, the chief said

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:glor3Y_l8bUJ:www.iape.org/Headlines/Headlines_2006_02.html+%22john+david+anderson%22+f ired&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

IMO but not sure, Anderson will offer them to resign than be fired.

NancynNC

06-11-2006, 10:49 PM

Matt, No kudos for me. Babes done all the work, I just rode her coattail.:D

simply quiet

06-11-2006, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by Babes

Anderson also fired a 26 year old veteran for missing drugs on the evidence room

IMO but not sure, Anderson will offer them to resign than be fired.

Hi Babes

The case of the missing drugs seems serious enough to issue the resign or be fired choice.

But the case of the car accident just to me seems that the punishment of resign or be fired is a bit of overkill......:shrug:

NancynNC

06-11-2006, 11:11 PM

I am not sure I buy all this stuff about JA being a POI. He lived in the neighborhood, "rumored" to have been with Tara and in LE.
Is that enough? Why would he want to cause MH some grief, would he kill to do this? Not in my mind.
We have 3 or 4 in LE, don't we? Many rumored to be with Tara.
And then we have the tip come in to search Benhill County, suspicious. Maybe one day we will know for sure.

fsbiii

06-11-2006, 11:17 PM

What does JDA being a POI have to do with causing MH grief? He's in a similar boat as HD if there is an affair with a married man going on. What if JDA helped her to runaway, not necessarily caused her harm? There are never any answers... only more questions. Unfortunately.

IMO, he's on the list, Nancy! Trust me. :)

Wasn't this "Ben Hill" tip the one that was traced to a computer in the Ben Hill County school system? I recall that being stated in a media report, perhaps the Ocilla Star or the Herald-Leader. It specifically said the tip came from a school system IP address.

BFD - v2.0

06-11-2006, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by NancynNC
I am not sure I buy all this stuff about JA being a POI. He lived in the neighborhood, "rumored" to have been with Tara and in LE.
Is that enough? Why would he want to cause MH some grief, would he kill to do this? Not in my mind.
We have 3 or 4 in LE, don't we? Many rumored to be with Tara.
And then we have the tip come in to search Benhill County, suspicious. Maybe one day we will know for sure.

I'm not getting the connection between Marcus and Anderson. What does any of it have to do with giving Marcus grief?

The only people who have given Marcus grief is Anita and her band of merry followers.

Can you please detail what this has to do with Marcus and why it would cause him grief? I am completely befuddled by that comment.

BFD - v2.0

06-11-2006, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by MATTHEWsevenone

Good thinking Nancy -

I was trying to do the side by side resume stuff for the three of them - Tara, MH, and JA (TARA AND JA are easy, MH well nothing is easy about MH is it?

It seemed IMO while Anderson was moving up MH was not. It seems that Anderson was Ocilla PD Chief's golden boy! MH was not. Did he ever get promoted at all. SF is now a SGT right? Is the only DET. = BARRS? I am not sure when Tara and Anderson are supposed to have had this relationship? He was a newlywed and seemed to be on a fast track in Ocilla. THE GBI would have been supervising him between 2002 and very late 2004 or sometime in 2005 when Ben Hill Sheriff (elected in runoff in August 2004) hired him as his #2 man. That leaves just months in 2005 - was he living out on Daisy at that time, working as the COMMANDER for the South GA. Drug Task Force. Didn't I read that Ocilla PD Chief was also a COMMANDER for one of the Drug Task Forces? I know I linked it but where it is now ??????

Did Chief Billy Hancock take over the helm when Anderson moved over to Ben Hill job?

Not matter how I look at this - what is GLARING to me is IF ANDERSON had any sort of relationship with Tara- then the GBI should have turned the WHOLE SHOOTING MATCH OVER TO THE FBI IMMEDIATELY!

For Pete's sake, this is getting ridiculous.

Just MOO. Of course.

:seeya:

:confused:

Huh?

Why should it have been turned over to the FBI when adding one more person to the mix? Do you know if the FBI has been assisting already or not?

Babes

06-11-2006, 11:50 PM

Is JDA ever involved in any searches done for Tara? more specifically at Ben Hill County? Did he attend any searches at all?

NancynNC

06-11-2006, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0

I'm not getting the connection between Marcus and Anderson. What does any of it have to do with giving Marcus grief?

The only people who have given Marcus grief is Anita and her band of merry followers.

Can you please detail what this has to do with Marcus and why it would cause him grief? I am completely befuddled by that comment.

Wow that caused a commotion...

The word grief was used in Esah's post. I did not make it up.
I was thinking that was supposed to be his motive.

How can you BFD see JA as a POI or suspect, whichever, and not see MH as the same???? You have definitely got more info than I have.

NancynNC

06-11-2006, 11:56 PM

Jumped on me like flies on sugar..:D

Babes

06-12-2006, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by MATTHEWsevenone

Not matter how I look at this - what is GLARING to me is IF ANDERSON had any sort of relationship with Tara- then the GBI should have turned the WHOLE SHOOTING MATCH OVER TO THE FBI IMMEDIATELY!

For Pete's sake, this is getting ridiculous.

Just MOO. Of course.

:seeya:

Matt it doesnt mean that Tara and JDA have a relationship too.. It could be that JDA is probably obsessed with Tara... who knows...

BFD - v2.0

06-12-2006, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by NancynNC

Wow that caused a commotion...

The word grief was used in Esah's post. I did not make it up.
I was thinking that was supposed to be his motive.

How can you BFD see JA as a POI or suspect, whichever, and not see MH as the same???? You have definitely got more info than I have.

Oh. My apologies. I don't intend this as mean, but I don't read psychic stuff. So, when a post starts with a vision, a feeling or something like that; I tend to not read it and just skip right over it.

Anderson and Harper are equal in my book. I don't see "anyone" as a POI. (As I stated before, just a politically correct way of saying suspect).

But there are a heck of a lot more intriguing things going on with Anderson than Harper in my opinion. Least of all is the fact it took over 7 months for his name to ever appear on a forum.

NancynNC

06-12-2006, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0

Oh. My apologies. I don't intend this as mean, but I don't read psychic stuff. So, when a post starts with a vision, a feeling or something like that; I tend to not read it and just skip right over it.

Anderson and Harper are equal in my book. I don't see "anyone" as a POI. (As I stated before, just a politically correct way of saying suspect).

But there are a heck of a lot more intriguing things going on with Anderson than Harper in my opinion. Least of all is the fact it took over 7 months for his name to ever appear on a forum.

We finally agree on something, about psychics. But if some believe, I respect that. I am just not one of them. We are in a psychics thread and maybe we should move over to another if we stay on this subject of JA.

I do not see them as equal, one had a 6 year relationship and one is "rumored" as being involved with Tara. I pray it will not happen, but IMO next month will be a new guy named. LE in another county????

NancynNC

06-12-2006, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by fsbiii
What does JDA being a POI have to do with causing MH grief? He's in a similar boat as HD if there is an affair with a married man going on. What if JDA helped her to runaway, not necessarily caused her harm? There are never any answers... only more questions. Unfortunately.

IMO, he's on the list, Nancy! Trust me. :)

Wasn't this "Ben Hill" tip the one that was traced to a computer in the Ben Hill County school system? I recall that being stated in a media report, perhaps the Ocilla Star or the Herald-Leader. It specifically said the tip came from a school system IP address.

Of course, I trust you fsbiii..;)

I have never heard where the tip came from, I thought we had been discussing that. You sure it was a Ben Hill school IP?

Babes

06-12-2006, 12:26 AM

Originally posted by NancynNC

We finally agree on something, about psychics. But if some believe, I respect that. I am just not one of them. We are in a psychics thread and maybe we should move over to another if we stay on this subject of JA.

I do not see them as equal, one had a 6 year relationship and one is "rumored" as being involved with Tara. I pray it will not happen, but IMO next month will be a new guy named. LE in another county????

I think the reasons behind he's in the scene is his actions during the searches that was done at Ben Hill County. I am wondering if anyone here participated on that search and can give us details on how JA treated possible evidences.

Then considering he just bought a new house last August 2005 at Daisy Rd then why did he apply for another job that is more than 2 hours away from his new house in less than a year ... actually he got the job when January 2006/ so that gives him only couple months. Doesnt make any sense that you buy a new house then after 2-4 months you'll apply a new job that is more than 2 hours away from your new house? ROFL...

Babes

06-12-2006, 12:46 AM

ANITA GATTIS, TARA GRINSTEAD`S SISTER: Well, the search on Saturday was approximately 300 people were here. And they searched the area that EquuSearch had previously planned on searching.

They got a tip on Saturday night, and it was not in Irwin County. It was in Ben Hill County, Northern Ben Hill County. So they sent all 100 volunteers who returned on Sunday to that area. I know that some articles of clothing were found. I`m not really sure exactly what the tip was. I was not given that information, but it was phoned in to either the sheriff`s...

GRACE: Articles of clothing? What were the articles of clothing?

GATTIS: Yes. I know it`s a couple of t-shirts and a pair of jeans were found.

GRACE: Is there any way to trace them back to Tara? And have the other items have been evaluated yet?

GATTIS: Nancy, you know how this is on waiting for evidence and the family being notified if anything`s been evaluated. We were told a month ago a rush was put on it, we`d have it in a week. We have still not heard anything from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation as to any results of any...

------------

Where are these couple of shirts and jeans that were found? I remember Moochdog also said that there is a bloody shirt that never made it to GBI. Hmmmm

Babes

06-12-2006, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by MATTHEWsevenone

Help me out Nancy - fuzzy mind right now....

JA suuposed married 10 years right? That means he married in 1996, right? According to the article Babes linked, his resume says he was 18 in 1995 when he began his LE career with the Irwin County Sheriff's department- right?

What is 2006 minus 10? Isn't it 1996? That means he married when he was 16?

What did I do wrong?

It says on one article that JA is currently 29 years old now and if he's married for 10 years then he got married when he was 19?

NancynNC

06-12-2006, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by MATTHEWsevenone

Help me out Nancy - fuzzy mind right now....

JA suuposed married 10 years right? That means he married in 1996, right? According to the article Babes linked, his resume says he was 18 in 1995 when he began his LE career with the Irwin County Sheriff's department- right?

What is 2006 minus 10? Isn't it 1996? That means he married when he was 16?

What did I do wrong?

You are the cutest...

If he was 18 in 1995, he would have been 19 in 1996 when he married.

cbcrime

06-12-2006, 08:56 AM

Couple of questions for anyone who knows. The search that was in Ben Hill county - with he clothes found and some questionable actions. What date did that occur.

Also If Tara and JDA had an affair - when was it. Was it right before her disappearance? Was it after she and MH broke up?

Also M71 - I believe earlier several locals clarified that JDA lived on Henderson St. a couple doors down from BG - and that Tara lived with him and CG before she moved to the Park St. Address. The address was 504 W. Henderson St.

Does anyone know if JDA's wife works?

He does seem to be on the fast track. To be in his early 30's and a Police Chief is pretty young. At least in CA. He apparently beat out a sgt from Vero Beach FL. for the chief's position.

I know in CA it can take months to hire a new chief - what about in GA - is the process as cumbersome?

It said in one article - that in Dec they Fort Valley were going to go ahead and interview JDA and the candidate from FL. I'm assuming that there already had been a screening process and it was narrowed down to those two. I quess this is a long and about way of saying - or asking when did he apply and when did the process start? Had the process already started when Tara disappeared? Any help on questions is appreciated.

fsbiii

06-12-2006, 09:10 AM

JDA had just bought the Daisy Rd property in mid-August 2005, so it was strange that he bought this new place in Irwin County and then took a job in Ft. Valley.

cbcrime

06-12-2006, 01:53 PM

From the Macon Telegraph - I've been able to put this timeline together.

6/28/2005 - Council is looking at consolidating Fort Valley Police and Peach County Sheriff

7/21/2005 - Still considering consolidation

8/21/2005 - Decided to re-open the Chief of Police Search

10/22/2005 - Received 37 applications

11/29/2005 - Interviewed 5 candidates

12/01/2005 - Dropped consolidation

12/02/2005 - Hired JDA at age 29 for Chief's position

01/01/2006 - JDA starts new position

If he purchased property in August - it might have happened before the Chief's position was re-opened. Which would explain why the purchase and then quick move. FWIW

Esah

06-12-2006, 02:38 PM

I've been asking about JDA's alibi since Nov and I still haven't heard anything.

Also, I read in the following article that Capt. W.K. R********* was recently fired from Fort Valley PD. He and another man were acting as fill in's while a new chief was hired. They ran things for almost a year. (Feb 05 - Jan 06) Just wondering if there might have been some hard feelings when a new guy comes in and takes over. Richardson was fired for mishandling the evidence room. Which is not good, when drugs disappear from under his watch. Looks like JDA runs a tight ship anyway.

http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/local/states/georgia/counties/houston_peach/14218184.htm

Just a thought about things, nothing intended.

lighthousedazy

06-12-2006, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by MATTHEWsevenone

FSBIII -

What does his wife do?

I was wondering about job requirements down there -

In many communities there are requirements that police, firemen and even teachers have to live where they work- in the same county. Any idea what the LAW is for Peach or Ben Hill?

Next I wondered if his wife's employment allowed him to negotiate a contract that excludes him from any residency clause?

Just wondering... I am not sure about the small towns and countys in Ga., but in Macon/Bibb Ga., firemen and police must live in a 25 mile radius.

cbcrime

06-12-2006, 04:14 PM

According to Babes the property in Ocilla was sold in May 2006 and he moved to Fort Valley. Did he move once in got the position or once the house sold? Just trying to clarify. If he was required to live in the area - his hiring might be contigent on the house selling. Just a thought.

cbcrime

06-12-2006, 05:29 PM

"Our whole profession relies on an officer's ability to rely on their integrity, and rely on integrity perceived for the public. We make rules so you don't have problems like this where officers are dismissed and people harmed," Anderson said. "I'm not the best captain in the world, and I am not the best manager in the world, but I know right from wrong." This is from the article that Esah quoted above.

Interesting because he places a lot of credence on integrity. Like Esah - I wonder what his alibi is.

Esah

06-12-2006, 10:04 PM

JDA started his postion as Chief of Police of Fort Valley on Jan 1st, 2006. He must be renting, because there is no record of a house being bought by him in that area yet.

Cbcrime, I'm waiting on the alibi too! Looks like we're gonna need a super sluether to find that out!

cbcrime

06-12-2006, 10:22 PM

Your right - we're gonna have to have someone slueth that out. I find it intertesting that JDA was in the hiring process when Tara went missing. I don't know if that means anything or not - though I find it and interesting fact.

Babes

06-12-2006, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by MATTHEWsevenone

FSBIII -

What does his wife do?

His wife's name is Christy

i was googling and happened to pass an adoption site:
http://registry.adoption.com/records/373713.html

That a certain Chrystine Anderson from Georgia has a brother name JDA and i thought This is JDA we are talking about and was shocked when i learned that his wife's name is Christy.

Babes

06-12-2006, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by Esah
JDA started his postion as Chief of Police of Fort Valley on Jan 1st, 2006. He must be renting, because there is no record of a house being bought by him in that area yet.

Cbcrime, I'm waiting on the alibi too! Looks like we're gonna need a super sluether to find that out!

Just think about this. He purchased a new home on August 2005 then he submitted his application for a Fort Valley position in 2 months considering Fort Valley is 2 hours away from his new house in Daisy Rd Ocilla.

August 2005 = Purchase a House at 225 Daisy Rd

October 2005 = Applied at Fort Valley

December 2005 = Got hired at Ft Valley

January 1, 2006 = Started at Ft Valley's new job

January 7 and 8 2006= Tara's Search at Ben Hill County ( What the heck is JDA doing here when he is supposed to be working for Ft Valley already? )

May 2006= Sold the Daisy Rd House

In 2 months, after moving to a new house and he's considering of having a job 2 hours away from the new house?

fsbiii

06-12-2006, 11:51 PM

Where are you getting that JDA was there January 7th and 8th?

cbcrime

06-12-2006, 11:56 PM

Also this chief's position is a three year contract. I assume that this is natural. Do most chief's contracts get renewed if they are doing a good job? That is just different from what I am use to. One of the council members when they re-opened the position was concerned about getting a quality person - since they were at that time still considering merging with Peach County. Does anyone know if he was commuting - or if he moved before sellling the house? TIA

Babes

06-13-2006, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by fsbiii
Where are you getting that JDA was there January 7th and 8th?

Someone told me that JDA attended the Ben Hill County Search and according to the crimelibrary article that the search happened on Jan 7 and 8 so i assumed that he was there on any of those dates.

Babes

06-13-2006, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by cbcrime
Your right - we're gonna have to have someone slueth that out. I find it intertesting that JDA was in the hiring process when Tara went missing. I don't know if that means anything or not - though I find it and interesting fact.

I'd like to know what JDA is driving too

Babes

06-13-2006, 01:17 AM

HmM Another old poster who shared his vision before says that he's getting a "john"

here is the cached link by googled posted by MRT2c

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:vSCKseKxsqcJ:boards.courttv.com/showthread.php%3Fs%3D590ad15a8cfa03ba2edc0aa7141d8 b5e%26postid%3D7878713+free+psychic+yahoogroup+%22 tara+grinstead%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

MrT2c
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Registered: Apr 2006
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 3
MightBuseful?!
Just some information I hope could B e useful in the search of this missing woman..
I think she may have been adducted by someone she knew, I feel she went walking after returning home that night, and did not take her dog with her since it was early morning..
from what I can see, she may have been stopped in her walk that morning in someone driving a two door black vehicle, sports like car, but few years older, I believe she was walking on the side of the road, going in a direction that was to the left of her front door that morning,....
THE car in question rode up behind her and she stopped to see who it was, there was a confrontation between the to, some sort of disagreement perhaps, I belive she was wearing a black, blue jacket with an emblem on it that morning,....I'm getting a john, or a josh name, black dark hair, glasses, he took her heading the same direction, she was walking...[B][I][COLOR=indigo]

Then as i posted before another psychic who posted at Yahoogroup on November 13 2005 said

From: sunflower <spiritlight53@...>
Date: Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:10 am
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ok... i am seeing an 'admirer' took her... i am also seeing an old barn that is gray and brown... looks as if it is at least 25 years old... and i am seeing a patch of flowers that resemble lilies but yellow and sort of lavender... and a road that has a plant or flower name... she was alive for a while.. i could be just a negative sort of person but i do not feel she is still with us

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freep...72?viscount=100

From: sunflower <spiritlight53@...>
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continue to view this... no one has yet contacted me so this will be the way we talk to the family... i also see a blue taurus or some car that resembles that as being over there at tara's place originally and that it is parked right now about 1 mile from tara's... tara herself is within 10 miles of her home...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freepsychicdetective/message/175?viscount=100

and Esah was also mentioning Daisy Rd on 4/18/2006

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:vSCKseKxsqcJ:boards.courttv.com/showthread.php%3Fs%3D590ad15a8cfa03ba2edc0aa7141d8 b5e%26postid%3D7878713+free+psychic+yahoogroup+%22 tara+grinstead%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

cbcrime

06-13-2006, 08:37 AM

The psychic I know said Tara was off a road that was marshy or had been marshy. That it was East and slightly south. Does anyone know if the area around all the flower names - is any of it marshy or wet in the winter? Sorry that really is a broad question. Don't know how to narrow it down at all.

On the map - Daisy Rd. does not look that far from the Snapdragon pond. In reality how close is it? Maps can be deceptive. TIA

Esah

06-13-2006, 01:45 PM

I have decided to release a message that I got on 2-6-06.

I was asking Spirit (God) about Tara's location and the following is what came through. At one point, JA's spirit came to me. (we don't have to be dead to communicate this way!) How do I know for sure it was JA and Tara? I don't. You will have to make that decsion for yourself, just like I did. It will sound a bit off the wall, but I'm willing to look fruity!! It will also give you an idea of how I do this.

Me: Dear Spirit, why would I see Dolly first, out of all my insights regarding Tara?
(the first vision that ever came to me about Tara, was her dog, Dolly sitting by a stop sign)

Spirit: She is just showing you that she is waiting. That Tara is alive. It's the stop sign by her house. It is also confirmation that you are on the right track. You did not know that Tara had a dog or that it was a german shepherd.

Me: Thank you. Now I want to ask JA something. JA, how many miles is it from your home to where Tara is? You must know the exact mileage by now!

JA: 5.2 miles

Me: Okay, I just went to Google Earth. You are exactly 5.2 miles from Tara's house to your house. You are right. But I wanted to know how far from your house to where Tara is being kept right now. In the Ambrose area or where ever she is at this moment.

JA: Oh, ok, she is next to me. She is 11.89 - 12 miles from my house to her now. (he was right, his house is exactly 11.89 miles to the area I see Tara in, in Ambrose, the extra .11 mile is from one end of the triangle to the other) (Also, in the stmt "she is next to me" I think JA was telling me he was with her at that moment!)

Me: Ok, I've just been looking at all the streets in downtown Ambrose. Is Tara in between Vickers Crossing and Jowers Street, in that quadrant? ....I don't feel a yes..... But she is in the yellow circle right?

JA: Yes

Me: Thank you then if I draw a plus sign of N.S.E. & W over the center of Ambrose, which quadrant would she be in?

JA: NE

Me: So is she near Ambrose Elementary school and near Ashley street, almost due east of the center and just below Vickers Crossing?

At this moment Tara intervened and told me clearly that she is in the "Triangle". Where Orange Street, Vickers Crossing and Ashley Street come to form a triangle.

This is the end of this message, it ended rather abruptly because I was disturbed by someone in my house.

You are probably asking right now "How can she really talk to JA and to Tara?" And why JA would want to tell me anything at all. To tell you the truth, I don't know. All that I do know is that I am amazed at the infinite power of God and the angels that work with us. I learned from another case I worked on that the Higher Self of a person wants what is best.

I believe that this can happen and that's why it does. I have done thousands of readings and I am truly amazed every time. I know that the person I am, cannot possibly know these things, I am just a good listener! God knows everything, so why can't He tell us stuff every now and then? I just think that most people don't listen.
I challenge every thing that comes to me. I make sure it is a truth I am willing to stand up for.

I shared this message because of the exactness of the mileage and the location of Tara. I have not shared the exact location before publicly, but I feel it is time. I am told that it has been searched, but since I see her in a house, someone would need a very good reason to get inside a house. i.e. search warrant. The exact location of the house is debatable and that is where I am right now with all of this. I still need your help and God's help, that's for sure.

Esah

cbcrime

06-13-2006, 02:01 PM

Esah - thank you so much for sharing. I truly believe that we can talk to each other on a whole other level. I've done it before with people I am close to.

I wish I could say that I listened better. I do believe we all can do it - just others are better at it than most. I was better - but I really have let every day life get in the way.

The mileage is truly amazing. I hope that you continue to receive information. Your son too - he sounds adorable.

I know concernedperson is having restless nights because of Tara talking. I just hope that between everyone working on this the answer to where Tara is-can be found. Prayers to all.

concernedperson

06-13-2006, 02:30 PM

Esah,

I did what you said and revisited the dream. I got good descriptions of the building and land around it.

It is a white one story concrete block building. It is old and looks abandoned. It has one window in the rear with cracked panes. No side windows. The front of the building has a door with a concrete step leading to it. A picture/larger window on the left facing the building and smaller one on the far right. The parking lot/drive is gravel. There is a hand crank pump/water pump in the lot to the left of the door.

The building is in an isolated area placed in what appears to be pasture land. The land is wide open until you see trees in the distance behind it. The building is on a two lane road with a slight curve towards the building. There is a clump of trees on the other side of the road. I didn't see any signs. The rear of the lot is overgrown weeds and no shrubs at all.

Maybe an old grocery store..gas station..For some reason I got a feeling of coca cola, almost like there used to be sign that said that but is gone now.

Esah, did you pick up the same thing when you went in?

msmith1

06-13-2006, 03:38 PM

I am fascinated. Please continue....It has been my feeling for a long time that Tara was gone but I'm an optimist and a believer in higher powers than that of my own. Please keep posting.

sumter_sue

06-13-2006, 04:26 PM

Please! someone check this area out!

Esah

06-13-2006, 04:32 PM

Concernedperson, I am so proud of you!!! That is great! This is the first moment I've been able to think about things today. I've had tons of rain and the kids needing entertainment all day!!
I will see what I get and post it as soon as I can.

Now, see if you can get Tara to talk more to you. I really feel she is trying to tell you something important.

I teach class tonight and won't be able to post until the morning, unless I get home early enough.

Msmith1, thank you for posting your support.

Moms4Justice

06-13-2006, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by concernedperson
Esah,

I did what you said and revisited the dream. I got good descriptions of the building and land around it.

It is a white one story concrete block building. It is old and looks abandoned. It has one window in the rear with cracked panes. No side windows. The front of the building has a door with a concrete step leading to it. A picture/larger window on the left facing the building and smaller one on the far right. The parking lot/drive is gravel. There is a hand crank pump/water pump in the lot to the left of the door.

The building is in an isolated area placed in what appears to be pasture land. The land is wide open until you see trees in the distance behind it. The building is on a two lane road with a slight curve towards the building. There is a clump of trees on the other side of the road. I didn't see any signs. The rear of the lot is overgrown weeds and no shrubs at all.

Maybe an old grocery store..gas station..For some reason I got a feeling of coca cola, almost like there used to be sign that said that but is gone now.

Esah, did you pick up the same thing when you went in?

That is very close(not exactly) to the same vision i had CP. I dont have time to post it all right now but it is somewhere on TT board under the name wiskcal.........!
btw .....i do not post here much at all but i have read a lot of your post and its time to tell you that a lot of your recent post (last month or so) have been my thoughts.......its neat to think about posting a response and then read that someone has already posted it! LOL:cool:

concernedperson

06-14-2006, 02:18 PM

Esah is going to intepret my dream. The info she will post needs to have a foundation on you won't understand what she is trying to say. The description of the building is revisiting the dream after she instructed me.

I had a dream night before last that I was in a large hole "raking" it with a brick. There was a woman (Tara)sitting above me on the edge of the hole. We were speaking and I said to her " This is the way we do things in Georgia". Behind her was a concrete/stucco building with no windows. I didn't see any shrubs , trees or grass in the dream at that time. Tara continued to speak very fast but I didn't understand her fully.

concernedperson

06-14-2006, 09:23 PM

Esah, where are you?

starryeyes

06-15-2006, 12:01 AM

I receive physic and paranormal impressions…my impressions have helped people find items that were lost for many years as well as in the recent past, helped others to prepare for the future, and other things. These impressions that I receive are strong, and will not "go away" until I pass them on to help people. The more I resist passing off the information, the stronger the visual/physical feelings impressions become and overwhelm me.

I agree with others' postings that the perp drives a dark vehicle; he planned this abduction carefully and for a long time.

In Tara’s case, I receive the impression that Tara and her abductor knew each other. The abductor is quite fit, strong, a large and powerful person. Tara would not have the strength to successfully struggle against her abductor.

My feeling is either Tara was knocked unconcious and carried from out of her home; or that she could have been strangled in the home and taken out. I get a strong impression that the perp ran into a metal windshime on a porch...he may have touched it to brush it out of his way as he exited the property.

I receive a strong impression of an old shed, garage or small barn building with a steeply-pitched roof on a small hill. It is an old weathered building, greys and browns from exposure to the sun and looks like it might collapse. Lots of trees are around this building. The building is not far from a dirt road and a small lake/pond. I feel that Tara is in that building or on that property.

I also get an impression of the possibility that Tara could be in N. Forsyth county, as there are lots of woods and lakes there, farm country. Lake Lanier has had many bodies disappear in it, as the lake is man-made and the trees on the former property were never removed prior to the lake creation. Bodies get trapped there frequently.

just my 2 cents worth. Perhaps my impressions can help to find Tara or help investigation to find her.

starryeyes

06-15-2006, 12:07 AM

starryeyes

06-15-2006, 12:10 AM

Esah

06-15-2006, 12:52 PM

Concernedperson, sorry it took so long to get back in here.

My very first impression when I went into your dream was a sick feeling. That this large hole is being prepared for Tara, as a grave.

The bldg seems abandoned and has a business feel about it, rather than a house. The bldg is not new, the clay dirt around it is new though. It has just been freshly placed there. No grass has had time to grow yet. It has a low pitch roof, that is grey.

(Just to add, this looks like the plain old church I saw in a dream a few weeks back. Tara was showing me a well with a pump and they were on a small mound, about 2 ft high. Tara told me they were elevated because the land floods so easily when it rains. She didn't say a word to me, only lead me by the hand around the back of the church to show me this well)

You are in the hole 'raking for clues'. Tara is talking incesantly about anything she feels you will listen to. Like she is rambling on and on about nothing. I asked Tara to please speak clearly and I hear "you won't find me in there", meaning the hole.

Even though this appears to be a grave, there is only one.
The feeling I have of Tara sitting up on the ledge, looking down into the whole is that she hasn't passed yet, but it seems like she is trying to tell CP this. The purpose of the dream.

In one direction, I see the bldg, but as I pan around, I see only the trunks of a few very tall trees.

Then I asked Tara to talk to me again. She said "Concerned- person is clairaudient (meaning she can hear spirit) words are important to her. I am not dead. I am not happy either. This Was Not My Choice. I want that clear. I really did it this time. I wanted someone to love me and protect me. I put the call out there to the Universe and the wrong person answered it. He really feels he has helped me, but now he is afraid of me. He realizes that he cant undo what he has done. He covered his tracks well. Concernedperson can hear me. She thinks she has a vivid imagination, well she does, but she also hears all of her relatives who are in spirit and many of the thoughts of those around her."

That is the end of what I got about the dream.

The bottom line with this dream, in my opinion is that there isn't much time before this whole is used for its intended purpose. If anyone has any idea where this small, dingy white church, with red clay dirt freshly layed, may be. Please post it here or call someone that can check it out.

There is also another intuitive person who has seen this same type of bldg. I don't know where it is though. It may have nothing to do with Ambrose and that is okay. Lets just see if we can make some sense of this.

Concernedperson, the next step might be to try going back into the dream again and this time view it from a birds eye view or try to find a street sign. I know this can be taxing, so wait until you feel peaceful. You have done great already.

Esah

p.s. As you know, I have felt Tara was alive all this time. Not just because I want her to be, but because in every single vision I have seen her alive. If Concernedperson's dream is literal and not symbolic, then finding Tara feels critical. Is Tara forseeing her own future or trying to prevent it? I don't know.

concernedperson

06-15-2006, 02:27 PM

Esah, I went back in. It was taxing as hell..you were right about that. I will need your help interpreting some of it.

I panned from a bird's eye view and wanted to see the sun so I could figure out direction but I couldn't. In the direction of the tree lined area but beyond it is a pond. Past the building in the other direction (maybe a mile or 2) is a barn w/ split rail fence. This barn doesn't look like barns from up north but is a low pitched roof sort of like a chicken farm building. No signs on the road.

Two odd things popped up....a sign that said Centerville. The Centerville sign was all that was there and a tarot card for the Page of Wands It was also in a solo reference.

lighthousedazy

06-15-2006, 03:40 PM

FWIW. Centerville is a small little town west of Warner Robins, GA, and halfway between Macon and Perry, GA.

concernedperson

06-15-2006, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by lighthousedazy
FWIW. Centerville is a small little town west of Warner Robins, GA, and halfway between Macon and Perry, GA.

Thank you for the info. Do you know of any industries related to chicken farms or quarry/rock operations in the area?

Atok

06-15-2006, 04:35 PM

Tarot signifigance (MOO)

The Page of Wands in solo representation symbolizes an internal creative spark that send the individual in a new direction.

The Page is a youthful messenger. It appears when you are tapping into a free spirit vision or thirst for adventure. He is a representation of sudden passion to an idea, not usually passion to a person unless he is paired. (You said yours was solo)

He is particularly associated with High ethics, as he is a wand card. He is supposed to help you see that your fears are only inside you and you do not need to fear them anymore.

Seeing this card in a vision is a note to self that you must carry on, listening to the voices in your sub concious and visionary states...despite the lonely voice you may be or if you feel all alone in the pursuit.

His presence may be for you CP: that this exploring of your dreams and visions is a new calling that you are embarking on and will be a great new adventure in living.

FWIW...If you buy into astrology as well, the Page card is aligned with Saggitarius.

If you would like any further clarifications pertaining to Tarot feel free to PM me.

lighthousedazy

06-15-2006, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by concernedperson

Thank you for the info. Do you know of any industries related to chicken farms or quarry/rock operations in the area? I'm not familiar with any chicken farms in that particular area, but I'm sure there are probably some not to far. The area does get pretty rural in spite of the new housing construction in that vicinity of Houston County. There are 2 rock quarrys northeast of Macon in Jones County, but, I cant locate the name of them or recall right now.

concernedperson

06-15-2006, 05:09 PM

Thank you both for the help. I believe the quarries in Macon are Florida Rock Industries.I am more interested in anything to do with granite....distributors, street names etc. in south Georgia.Granite quarries in Georgia are located in Elberton (n. Georgia) so no need to search that any further.

Esah

06-15-2006, 05:44 PM

First of all, Atok, that was a great interpretation of that card. You consistently amaze me with your knowledge of so many things!

Concernedperson, I don't think I need to interpret this because I think you are seeing a real location. And there is that Warner Robbins reference again. There has to be a clue or two there, for sure!

Does anyone know this area (Centerville) well enough to place all of these landmarks?

I think you're really on to something Concernedperson. Could you please go to sleep and see what else comes through??? lol

concernedperson

06-15-2006, 06:14 PM

One more thing if anyone is from that area, pecan tree groves. Older ones that are at least 30-50 feet high. In a cluster and maybe a roadway interrupted the whole grove. At least I think it is pecan trees not weeping willows or white birchs. The tree lined rear is scrub pine, water oaks, maple and some other junk.The roadway trees are importent. Thanks for the help!

msmith1

06-16-2006, 08:56 AM

I'm anxiously awaiting this mornings recap of cp's sleeptime. My thoughts last night were that you slept well with full knowledge and awareness
Good Morning to all:seeya:

hear16

06-19-2006, 01:14 PM

Okay, I am very rarely on here but haven't heard much about Tara in the news so decided to read some of the forums and get up to date :) My family lives in Hawksinville, GA...thats how I heard about Tara. I lived there for about 3 months dont really know anybody. My family hasn't been there long.

I worked in Perry, Ga when I lived in Hville and maybe this can help some of you who aren't in the area. There is a road from Hawksinville to Centerville (goes thru perry) People in Hville call it the Perry Hwy. Thats the way I'd travel to/from work. There are huge pecan orchards all along the perry hwy. There is a rock company off that road in BFE called Cemex. There is also a Purdue chicken plant...I dont think its a chicken farm, but just a plant. I think they supply all of Chick-fil-a's chicken from what I've heard. Cemex and Purdue are about 5-8 miles from each other.

You guys are so good at piecing things together I thought this info would help since i've often traveled that road.

hear16

06-19-2006, 01:32 PM

Sorry for another post. The name of the road is hwy 341S and Cemex is in a town called Clinchfield, GA which is b/t Hville and Perry. You take a right off of 341 to get to Purdue Farms.

Here are the addresses if somebody wants to mapquest or google earth:

250 Ga Highway 247 Spur, Perry, GA (purdue
2720 Highway 341 S, Clinchfield, GA (cemex

InOcillaGA

06-19-2006, 02:24 PM

It took a little but there is a place where they have huge pits and even a overhead conveyor going over the road in Clinchfield southeast of Perry. The company is Medusa Cement Company. Also has Norfolk Southern train going through this location.

Originally posted by concernedperson

Thank you for the info. Do you know of any industries related to chicken farms or quarry/rock operations in the area?

Esah

06-19-2006, 06:45 PM

Hear16, thank you for the info, that really helped me to visualize the area better, since I am not in Ga. This is good confirmation for Concernedperson's dream.

Bye the way, how are your dreams lately CP? I am curious to see what comes to you next.

cbcrime

06-19-2006, 06:54 PM

Esah - I have a question about your dream/vision of 2/6 - you are given very detailed mileage- is this from Tara's to the Daisy Rd address? By then JDA was in Ft. Valley - could this mileage pertain to this area? Though I don't know where he was at actually living at this time. Or are you sure it was the Irwin Co area?

concernedperson

06-19-2006, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by InOcillaGA
It took a little but there is a place where they have huge pits and even a overhead conveyor going over the road in Clinchfield southeast of Perry. The company is Medusa Cement Company. Also has Norfolk Southern train going through this location.

Thanks for the info...I am very famiiar with Medusa Cement and other cement manufacturors. The thing about cement vs. concrete is the fine nature of portland cement . It takes aggregates like rock and sand to form concrete. When I was working for a cement mfg. a long time ago we lost an employee who fell into a silo of cement and smothered.

I am also familiar with quarries. After taking the raw product many reclaim the pits by making ponds and such.

This area is very interesting to me because of all these possibilities.

concernedperson

06-19-2006, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by hear16
Okay, I am very rarely on here but haven't heard much about Tara in the news so decided to read some of the forums and get up to date :) My family lives in Hawksinville, GA...thats how I heard about Tara. I lived there for about 3 months dont really know anybody. My family hasn't been there long.

I worked in Perry, Ga when I lived in Hville and maybe this can help some of you who aren't in the area. There is a road from Hawksinville to Centerville (goes thru perry) People in Hville call it the Perry Hwy. Thats the way I'd travel to/from work. There are huge pecan orchards all along the perry hwy. There is a rock company off that road in BFE called Cemex. There is also a Purdue chicken plant...I dont think its a chicken farm, but just a plant. I think they supply all of Chick-fil-a's chicken from what I've heard. Cemex and Purdue are about 5-8 miles from each other.

You guys are so good at piecing things together I thought this info would help since i've often traveled that road.

Thank you so much for yor input. Your info really fits a lot with what I visualize about the area. The Purdue plant is a very interesting tidbit...they may supply to all outlets but the chickens come from somewhere.

Please continue to post as all info is helpful.

concernedperson

06-19-2006, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by Esah
Hear16, thank you for the info, that really helped me to visualize the area better, since I am not in Ga. This is good confirmation for Concernedperson's dream.

Bye the way, how are your dreams lately CP? I am curious to see what comes to you next.

Woke up all through the night last night with dreams. But was concentrating on getting back to sleep....Monday's are my long days. I am on a 6 day a week work schedule and I need sleep for the impetus to tackle this.

Mid-week will be a little easier and I hope to concentrate more. I am sure someone is trying to get in but my exhaustion level keeps them at bay.

Esah

06-19-2006, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by cbcrime
Esah - I have a question about your dream/vision of 2/6 - you are given very detailed mileage- is this from Tara's to the Daisy Rd address? By then JDA was in Ft. Valley - could this mileage pertain to this area? Though I don't know where he was at actually living at this time. Or are you sure it was the Irwin Co area?

Yes, the 5.2 miles is from Tara's house to the Daisy Road address and the 12.89 miles is from the Daisy Road address to where I feel she is in Ambrose.

But you bring up a very good point about him possibly not living there at that time. I'm thinking that since he is still very new on the job that he would still refer to this address as his home. If I knew his new address I could also apply these mileage counts to that, just to be sure. I have been shown the city of Ambrose so many times though, and I would have to have a lot of other connections to a new area in order to think she would be somewhere else. But I remain open to any and all possibilites!

Thanks for the question.
Esah

cbcrime

06-19-2006, 09:35 PM

Esah - thanks - I think that the Daisy address would feel like home. I just wish that it could all be put together and that there was an answer. Do you think that you and CP are seeing the same area? Or do you think they are different?

Babes

06-19-2006, 11:57 PM

cbcrime

06-20-2006, 08:38 AM

Babes - do you know if JDA moved in Jan/06 or did he continue to live in Irwin CO and move later? Because he already was working two hours away in Feb - I was wondering when he actually moved? Also both Esah and Concernedperson seem to have some similiarities to parts of their visions. (maybe a few more people) I was wondering what is the same and what is different. Because it seems some of the building(s) might be the same - but the area is different.

NancynNC

06-21-2006, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by Babes
This is the old JDA's address

504 W Henderson St, Ocilla, GA 31774

Seems like many people lived on Henderson that are involved in this case. Are there some posters here that lived on Henderson
Street growing up? Maybe they can share.

gilligan

06-21-2006, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by NancynNC

Seems like many people lived on Henderson that are involved in this case. Are there some posters here that lived on Henderson
Street growing up? Maybe they can share.

Ocilla is very small town...maybe it is one of the only streets in Ocilla?

:D

kebo

06-21-2006, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by gilligan

Ocilla is very small town...maybe it is one of the only streets in Ocilla?

:D

http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?newFL=Use+Address+Below&addr=&csz=Ocilla%2C+GA&.intl=us&name=&lat=&lon=&srchtype=a&qty=&new=1&trf=0&getmap=Get+Map

gilligan

06-21-2006, 04:24 PM

Looking at map, I don't even see Henderson Street on it...there is a 4th street on map....Where the heck is Henderson Street???

kebo

06-21-2006, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by gilligan
Looking at map, I don't even see Henderson Street on it...there is a 4th street on map....Where the heck is Henderson Street???

http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?newFL=Use+Address+Below&addr=Henderson+St&csz=Ocilla%2C+GA&.intl=us&name=&lat=&lon=&srchtype=a&qty=&new=1&trf=0&getmap=Get+Map

kebo

06-21-2006, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by gilligan
Looking at map, I don't even see Henderson Street on it...there is a 4th street on map....Where the heck is Henderson Street???

if that takes you to the same place, make it zoom in closer & look south.............it is one block south of 1st street

gilligan

06-21-2006, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by kebo

if that takes you to the same place, make it zoom in closer & look south.............it is one block south of 1st street

OK...I see now...

BUT there aren't many streets, are there?

OH... The joys of small town living...everyone knows everyone's business and gets in it as well...

Saunterer

06-21-2006, 05:40 PM

The Admin. at TCBC says Tara's episode on "Haunting Evidence" will air on July 19.

http://www.carlabaron.net/forum/showthread.php?t=518

concernedperson

06-24-2006, 10:01 PM

Esah, I know I have fallen off the job. I am just so tired. Nothing comes except odd things from my past. An old boyfriend who shows up in what seems to be pews. Trust me our relationship was never about church. I can't even interpret. Yes he was a big love but not someone who has been in my life for 20 years. The rest of the time I am riding around in cars with others that I am not sure who they are. Need to sleep more.

janis

06-25-2006, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by concernedperson
Esah, I know I have fallen off the job. I am just so tired. Nothing comes except odd things from my past. An old boyfriend who shows up in what seems to be pews. Trust me our relationship was never about church. I can't even interpret. Yes he was a big love but not someone who has been in my life for 20 years. The rest of the time I am riding around in cars with others that I am not sure who they are. Need to sleep more.

CP, hang in there. Get some rest. I would give anything to have your abilities. Every night, I pray God will send me something in a dream. I have yet to dream about where Tara is or what happened to her. So, please....calm down, rest, and hang tight.
We need you!!

janis

06-25-2006, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by concernedperson

Thank you so much for yor input. Your info really fits a lot with what I visualize about the area. The Purdue plant is a very interesting tidbit...they may supply to all outlets but the chickens come from somewhere.

Please continue to post as all info is helpful.

CP, Perdue is a processing plant, currently upgrading to a cooking plant. We have ten poultry houses, there are 6 other houses approximately behind us. Twelve other new houses are currently being built. I can assure you, of the sixteen currently in operation, there is nothing on our properties. We have searched land and incinerators. Hope this helps. These farms are in Pulaski and Dodge Counties. We are south of the Perdue plant. I can't answer for north of the plant. Wish I could. Carry on!!

Esah

06-25-2006, 04:35 PM

I've been thinking about all of the information that has been presented, both psychically and otherwise, since Tara went missing. Hundreds of pages of posts, loaded with theories, speculation and psychic insights, have been shared. At this point, many of us are dazed and confused with it all.

We want to narrow down what could have happened to Tara, and yet that seems harder every day. But if Tara is alive and has been in a few different places, since October 22nd, then it would account for the many different types of visions and details that a lot of us are getting. Are you with me here?

Rather than limiting ourselves into thinking only one circumstance could be right, maybe all of them, or at least most of them are right.

Someone could also be picking up on what Tara did just before she went missing too!

I just feel like we need to keep an open mind with all of the info that has come to us from so many different sources. I think that any insight, even one small detail, is far better shared than kept inside, just because it doesn't seem to fit with what others have received.

I know that there are some people out there who would share their feelings, but don't have a clue how they would fit in the big picture. But I want to reassure them that there is a lot more going on behind the scenes than is being posted. So, if you have anything that you have received about Tara, please share it. It could make the difference that we need at this point.

Thanks
Esah

Esah

06-25-2006, 05:09 PM

Concernedperson, try not to pressure yourself. You'll keep having dreams about being pressured before you will get to one about Tara.....lol

I know exactly how you feel though, you feel like if God can give us some info, why not all of it. And why not gps coordinates for Tara while He's at it!

***********

Just to be clear about one point that I keep thinking about. Divine timing is not about God "deciding" when everyone has worked hard enough to find Tara, and then saying "here she is!". It is about Tara and her life lessons and what she has come here to experience. We may find Tara, but we cannot shorten her time away for even a second, because we cannot interfere. When she has fullfilled that lesson, then she will be found. If she has already passed, when she is found, we still must realize that the time it took to find her was still part of her life plan.

I get a bit upset when people say "why would God do this to Tara?". God is a loving being and would do nothing to hurt us. I think that we are here to experience all kinds of things and God allows us to learn, just like a doting Father does. The God that I love would never "do" anything to me other than love me like the child of God that I am.

I hope that this was received in the way that I meant it. Not to go against anyone else's beliefs, only to share mine.

Thanks
Esah

concernedperson

06-25-2006, 06:52 PM

Thanks Esah, I do understand.The fact that Tara had lessons to deal with was apparent in my dream The tail end of it....where she was angry and wouldn't talk about where she was anymore but rather a situation or several situations that angered her.

cbcrime

06-25-2006, 08:28 PM

Sometimes I think it is not only Tara's life lesson but ours also. That all who are trying to find tara - you are having visions etc. are a part of that life plan. I hope that is clear.

cbcrime

06-25-2006, 08:38 PM

A question for anyone who has visions. Does reading/talking about theories and other peoples visions influence your dreams/visions?

concernedperson

06-25-2006, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by cbcrime
A question for anyone who has visions. Does reading/talking about theories and other peoples visions influence your dreams/visions?

No,not at all in my case. They are either pure or I never qualify the remainder. I know when it is fuzzy and if I say anything it is with a question mark. You know how good I am at disqualfying and when I am unsure I say so. Sometimes I will say a feeling to trusted people but again that is not qualfying.

I wish this were a science but it isn't.

Trusting sometimes leads your persective/logic to another place but visions come on their own unsolicited. I know this sounds ambiguous but its the best I can do.

cbcrime

06-25-2006, 10:46 PM

Thanks it does make sense to me. I hope you rest up. Remember to take care of yourself also.

SHandCH

06-28-2006, 02:34 AM

Originally posted by Babes

His wife's name is Christy

i was googling and happened to pass an adoption site:
http://registry.adoption.com/records/373713.html

That a certain Chrystine Anderson from Georgia has a brother name JDA and i thought This is JDA we are talking about and was shocked when i learned that his wife's name is Christy.

Not sure if this is his sister or not. Could be. He has only referred to an older brother that was a police officer when he was 14. She doesn't mention any other brothers.

who knows.

longcoolwoman

06-28-2006, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by SHandCH

Not sure if this is his sister or not. Could be. He has only referred to an older brother that was a police officer when he was 14. She doesn't mention any other brothers.

who knows.

It's not his sister.

I am continually amazed at the inaccurate conclusions made on this board from every little snippet of information that is found on Google. JMHO, of course.

Moms4Justice

06-28-2006, 03:00 PM

MakeSomeNoise

06-29-2006, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by longcoolwoman

It's not his sister.

I am continually amazed at the inaccurate conclusions made on this board from every little snippet of information that is found on Google. JMHO, of course.
I am amazed by that as well. If a person is going to do research, at least finish it up and get the info straight before posting it for all to see.

kundalini

06-29-2006, 11:53 AM

I realize this is an odd post for many but bear with me as I explain.
There is a lot of energy on this board. Some good some not so good.
I wish to request that those with good intentions use their energy at a specific time to help Tara come forth.
The universe is made of energy - energy that is able to connect to many realms. Many of you on this board realize the energy is there and have just never attempted to use it before. Some of you "sense" what happened to Tara. It is that kind of energy I wish to unite and with the help of many we can assist Tara in closing this horrible chapter.
Even if you have never participated in any thing like this before or feel it may be "hogwash" - put those feelings aside and loan us your energy. What will it hurt?

At 6 pm this even EST please close your eyes for a brief moment. Take three deep breaths and pull the energy of the earth up through your feet and down from the sky. Let it gather in your heart chakra. You will feel overwhelming warmth and love. You may cry. That is okay - stay focussed. Tell Tara (with your mind) that you are here to help her but she must help us find her. Ask her to please bring forth a clue. If she is in water, to please place her personal item on the shore in plain site and where she knows someone is going to see it. Tell her to direct someone to her clue.
Focus on this message to Tara for about five minutes. With all of us contacting her with the same message she will have the energy needed to provide us with her help.
If she does not wish to be found she will not assist. I have a feeling she does want closure and will appreciate the energy sent her way.

Bless