FDInLaw
07-12-2006, 08:56 AM
Since her murder in December, I have been following the Nona Dirksmeyer case. She was a contestant at last year’s Miss Arkansas Pageant, and following her case involves keeping a close eye on the pageant sites. This year’s Miss Arkansas was determined a few weeks ago, and since then there has been an explosion of accusations on this board that seem to go beyond the expected hype generated by sore losers:
http://missarkansas.proboards13.com/index.cgi?board=general
This morning this was posted by one of the moderators (Amber Bennet won, but Stephanie DeClerk was a clear favorite):
My conversation with Bruce Danley
« Thread Started on Today at 12:47am »
“Bruce Danley is the judge that has stated the Miss Arkansas board acted inappropriately during Miss Arkansas.
Mr Danley began by asking "What did I have to gain by doing this?"
Bruce said "...a local director who I had emailed , oh this was months back about you know, judging, even on the local level...this lady came up to me on Sunday. She introduced herself and I said it's so nice to finally meet you and ... she had this look on her face and I said Are you ok, and she said, Well I need to share this with you, that the top 10 list was found in the Embassy suite, ah, copy machine Saturday, during the day, before the finals even started."
Reggie Hall, the judge from Texas appeared to be good friends with the Arkansas board. The judges went to dinner before the finals and Reggie was sitting next to Bruce. "Reggie Hall was sitting next to me and this is the God's honest truth...If I'm lyin' I'm dyin', He's sitting right next to me and he leans over and he goes, Now Bruce he said, ah, You know what to do right? And I didn't respond and he said We just want to make sure you're on the same page as everybody else."
Bruce stated no one was going to tell him how to score a contestant.
" Just before the pageant, I watched him, he approached Terri Galvez from D.C. the director from D.C. and if I could have been a fly on the wall, I knew what he was telling her. Anyway, he goes over, it was just him and her, and he leaves and I went over and asked Terri, are you ok and she said almost like she was scared to death or frightened and she said I'm just being squeezed and being pressured."
" I was threatened twice, twice, by Kelly Hull." Shannon Hull, Kelly's husband called Bruce outside to smoke as they had done before. Shannon told Bruce"...You've judged enough you know you're not supposed to talk, no I'm sorry, critique contestants. I said Shannon, you know a lot of times contestants come up to me and I never want to be rude and say I can't talk to you and whatever, you know the pageant was over, and he said well you know you're not supposed to do that, and I said well how do you know I'm doing that, so then he says Kelly wants to see you. Well, here comes Kelly...and Kelly would not look at my face...and she's got that finger...and she going Bruce, she said I'm so upset right now but she said I promise you, I promise you I will ruin you. You will never I will contact Miss America You will never be allowed to judge another state pageant and you definately will not come back to Arkansas."
"I was sitting there talking to Stephanie DeClerk, I wasn't spilling my guts or anything, so it was Stephanie DeClerk,...It was Thomas, Stephanie's parents, I'm sure her boyfriendThere was like fifteen people, well here comes Kelly and Shannon back in and Kelly goes Bruce, I've told you that you need to get up and leave right now before I call the police and have you removed from the property and I was like You're kidding me, I said since when were my freedom of speech rights taken away from me?"
"So I did, I got up and left and I was staying on the third floor so I get on the elevator and I go up and ...I was kind of peeking around the corner, well it was Kelly and Shannon talking to Stephanie and Thomas and Stephanie's family and Kelly was saying well like that I was crazy, was I asking her this was I asking her that, she said no, no, we were just talking."But the look on Shannon's face like he was scared to death, It's like they're worried now that someone would finally speak up and people have suspected this for years , this just kind of confirms things. No...I had nothing to gain by doing this"
Bruce told me that after Amber won, board members were talking about how they had Amber in their home and had been trying on a wardrobe.
Bruce told me he has not contacted the Miss America Organization.”
http://missarkansas.proboards13.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1152683246
The above may be difficult to follow, but basically it states that the top 10 was determined beforehand. The whole pageant scene is new for me. I’m not shocked to read about the politics involved, etc. I do wonder if this type of scandal is normal. Any insight is appreciated!
(For a good laugh, follow this link - it is a classic! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TJ_UKt4QtQ )
:) :) :)
http://missarkansas.proboards13.com/index.cgi?board=general
This morning this was posted by one of the moderators (Amber Bennet won, but Stephanie DeClerk was a clear favorite):
My conversation with Bruce Danley
« Thread Started on Today at 12:47am »
“Bruce Danley is the judge that has stated the Miss Arkansas board acted inappropriately during Miss Arkansas.
Mr Danley began by asking "What did I have to gain by doing this?"
Bruce said "...a local director who I had emailed , oh this was months back about you know, judging, even on the local level...this lady came up to me on Sunday. She introduced herself and I said it's so nice to finally meet you and ... she had this look on her face and I said Are you ok, and she said, Well I need to share this with you, that the top 10 list was found in the Embassy suite, ah, copy machine Saturday, during the day, before the finals even started."
Reggie Hall, the judge from Texas appeared to be good friends with the Arkansas board. The judges went to dinner before the finals and Reggie was sitting next to Bruce. "Reggie Hall was sitting next to me and this is the God's honest truth...If I'm lyin' I'm dyin', He's sitting right next to me and he leans over and he goes, Now Bruce he said, ah, You know what to do right? And I didn't respond and he said We just want to make sure you're on the same page as everybody else."
Bruce stated no one was going to tell him how to score a contestant.
" Just before the pageant, I watched him, he approached Terri Galvez from D.C. the director from D.C. and if I could have been a fly on the wall, I knew what he was telling her. Anyway, he goes over, it was just him and her, and he leaves and I went over and asked Terri, are you ok and she said almost like she was scared to death or frightened and she said I'm just being squeezed and being pressured."
" I was threatened twice, twice, by Kelly Hull." Shannon Hull, Kelly's husband called Bruce outside to smoke as they had done before. Shannon told Bruce"...You've judged enough you know you're not supposed to talk, no I'm sorry, critique contestants. I said Shannon, you know a lot of times contestants come up to me and I never want to be rude and say I can't talk to you and whatever, you know the pageant was over, and he said well you know you're not supposed to do that, and I said well how do you know I'm doing that, so then he says Kelly wants to see you. Well, here comes Kelly...and Kelly would not look at my face...and she's got that finger...and she going Bruce, she said I'm so upset right now but she said I promise you, I promise you I will ruin you. You will never I will contact Miss America You will never be allowed to judge another state pageant and you definately will not come back to Arkansas."
"I was sitting there talking to Stephanie DeClerk, I wasn't spilling my guts or anything, so it was Stephanie DeClerk,...It was Thomas, Stephanie's parents, I'm sure her boyfriendThere was like fifteen people, well here comes Kelly and Shannon back in and Kelly goes Bruce, I've told you that you need to get up and leave right now before I call the police and have you removed from the property and I was like You're kidding me, I said since when were my freedom of speech rights taken away from me?"
"So I did, I got up and left and I was staying on the third floor so I get on the elevator and I go up and ...I was kind of peeking around the corner, well it was Kelly and Shannon talking to Stephanie and Thomas and Stephanie's family and Kelly was saying well like that I was crazy, was I asking her this was I asking her that, she said no, no, we were just talking."But the look on Shannon's face like he was scared to death, It's like they're worried now that someone would finally speak up and people have suspected this for years , this just kind of confirms things. No...I had nothing to gain by doing this"
Bruce told me that after Amber won, board members were talking about how they had Amber in their home and had been trying on a wardrobe.
Bruce told me he has not contacted the Miss America Organization.”
http://missarkansas.proboards13.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1152683246
The above may be difficult to follow, but basically it states that the top 10 was determined beforehand. The whole pageant scene is new for me. I’m not shocked to read about the politics involved, etc. I do wonder if this type of scandal is normal. Any insight is appreciated!
(For a good laugh, follow this link - it is a classic! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TJ_UKt4QtQ )
:) :) :)