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The R
03-28-2006, 11:34 AM
Sorry if this is a rehash...... but I just reread the interview MH did with Greta. While I am NOT pointing any fingers necessarily, one thing said in the interview really jumped out.
MH said he and T broke off the relationship in Oct. 2004 at her request. He states they remained friends afterwards and saw each other as friends whenever he was in town. He then says she came to his house one year later (in Oct 2005) crying and saying if she found he was dating someone else she would 'commit suicide'. This is after they broke off the relationship one year earlier?
Does anyone else think this is really strange?:confused:
4ANGELS
03-28-2006, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by The R
Sorry if this is a rehash...... but I just reread the interview MH did with Greta. While I am NOT pointing any fingers necessarily, one thing said in the interview really jumped out.
MH said he and T broke off the relationship in Oct. 2004 at her request. He states they remained friends afterwards and saw each other as friends whenever he was in town. He then says she came to his house one year later (in Oct 2005) crying and saying if she found he was dating someone else she would 'commit suicide'. This is after they broke off the relationship one year earlier?
Does anyone else think this is really strange?:confused:
I dont think she commited suicide. Who really knows if that was said by Tara he said she said that. For her to commit this is unbelievable in my book plus I think he may of said that so we all would think she did this to herself. Wrong we know someone did something to her.
jela72
03-28-2006, 12:35 PM
Genlee, you wrote: The way we wish it was is completely different from the way it is.
Exactly! The cloth cuts both ways.
The same may be said for HD - WHY didn't he tell anyone else that Tara was in 'real danger'. He elected to keep this dangerous and alarming info to himself. He drove 90 miles in secrecy to her house. He made 20 calls to her. Seems like he's not a man to give up.
And some will have it that MH 'threw it in there' - those same people will not have it that HD 'threw in' Tara only told HIM she was in grave danger, if indeed she told him this at all. We only have his word on this - and as Tara is not here, that's actually (legitimately) hearsay.
Again, let's be honest: if not for Dr. G, we may never have learned that HD was parked right outside her house in the middle of all of this. Few here seem to want answers to that; instead they answer for him - or excuse him totally. Again such comments are hearsay, not fact...
Me-still-thinks the man was keen on Tara in more than just the 'family-friend-way'. Maybe she wasn't keen on him - who knows. We've heard too many reports contradicting posters beliefs - and with the recently added knowledge (that it's ALLEGED) the spouse of an OPD was posting in support of HD - well - I rest my case!
No one is perfect. And LE in these parts raises an eyebrow, according to 'those in the know'...
victoria01
03-28-2006, 12:56 PM
REGARDING HD:
We keep saying he drove the 90 miles to Tara's house. Do we know that for a fact? Am I correct that he lived in Hawkensville and grew up there? Could he , on that night, been spending the night with family or friends? Puts a different light on him checking up on Tara.
The R
03-28-2006, 01:04 PM
well let me say this then:
The thing I thought the most strange about it was the fact that it was one entire year after they broke off their relationship that she shows up at his house crying. I just don't get it.
As far as the 'commit suicide' statement, I tend to come down on the side of Sassy. If I had a girl that was that distraught enough to say that... esp. after breaking up with her one year before, I think I'd call her Mom or something. Anyone that knows anything about suicide threats - ESPECIALLY L.E . - will tell you to always take a suicude threat seriously.
My 2 cents
R
jela72
03-28-2006, 01:17 PM
Agree entirely, The R.
On an earlier post (could have been yesterday - but somewhere in here) I asked JUST that: IF Tara threatened to take her life WHY didn't MH advise her family, friends and loved ones?
Ditto: WHY didn't HD advise family friends and loved ones that T allegedly TOLD HIM she felt she was in real danger?
Outside of the seemingly ominous crime looming over Tara Grinstead, BOTH men reacted VERY badly to this (hearsay) information that came directly from Tara .... Unforgiveable!
gafan33
03-28-2006, 01:20 PM
Suicide, IMOO, has nothing to do with Tara's disapearance. No one can dispose of oneself that good. She'd had to leave some sort of trail to follow. I just mean how does someone dispose of their own body or dissapear. Tara's dissapeared, but IMO it wasn't because she wanted to.
gafan33
03-28-2006, 02:00 PM
J4T, who are you referring to when you say "spewing out information like that"
jela72
03-28-2006, 02:03 PM
FWIW, I believe both men were 'pushing the envelope' when it came to what THEY CLAIMED Tara 'told them'.
Very easy to put words in the mouth of Tara after the fact. And - whether or not this is accepted by the HD Fan Club: Tara told NO-ONE ELSE she was in this supposed 'real danger' - and nor did HD, for that matter. Like he was her private Bodyguard? I don't believe it for a splitting second.
Conclusion? THEIR word against Tara's - ultimately: hearsay.
jela72
03-28-2006, 02:22 PM
So in your book what's good for the goose is not good for the gander?
That's OK. That's your book.
In my book: BOTH FAILED.
MH: Sour grapes - indeed I believe he 'threw that in there', 'cos he should have acted more responsibly if he really believed it.
However, HD a senior, respected, trust Captain in local LE? Well, he owed it to his 'best, close, dear, lifelong' friend's family to TELL THEM. He owed it to the county and to the ethics of Law Enforcement. To enforce law, protect civilians and carry out justice.
Far too many excuses are being made of this man. The major one being he was right outside Tara's house and an external private investigator had to pry this info out of tower records to track HD's cell phone. In the background? HD was/is not talking - stating it had been 'a few weeks' since last he saw Tara. Infact it was THE WEEK before, when he rode up to her school, took her away and she not appear at class the next day.
Confucious Say: Sumptink velly, velly wong.
Originally posted by Justice4Tara
Perhaps one man simply failed, and the other acted badly.
NancynNC
03-28-2006, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by Ocillian
IMO no one knows for sure if Tara really hinted about suicide except for those that may have heard her say it. It's their word against our opinions. We could go on all day about why "someone said this" or why "they said that" but ultimately it really doesn't matter b/c that gets no one closer to finding Tara. Either way........... she's still MISSING.
I so agree. I just want some news. This rehashing solves nothing.
concernedperson
03-28-2006, 02:37 PM
Right, Sassy, and that could be why from the very beginning Anita said, "What Did You Do With My Sister'? It seems she had strong suspicions and why would she have them? Because either/or both Tara and HD confided this to her.
Originally posted by jela72
FWIW, I believe both men were 'pushing the envelope' when it came to what THEY CLAIMED Tara 'told them'.
Very easy to put words in the mouth of Tara after the fact. And - whether or not this is accepted by the HD Fan Club: Tara told NO-ONE ELSE she was in this supposed 'real danger' - and nor did HD, for that matter. Like he was her private Bodyguard? I don't believe it for a splitting second.
Conclusion? THEIR word against Tara's - ultimately: hearsay.
I was under the impression that Tara had shared concerns with LG in the form of Emails and I do not know for a fact that she ever told ANYONE, including HD she was in real danger. It was only a speculation that Tara told HD about issues and this has been inflated to infer that she knew or he knew she was in some sort of "real danger".
It's not fact.
Another reason people assume it was serious fear was the fact that HD went to the house at such a late hour and presumable (but not known) from such a long distance away and he made lots of phone calls.
The hour can coincide with shift ends or time of travel. It just isn't ominous to me.
Lots of phone calls? If you expected a reply and weren't getting one what would you do?
HD just didn't do anything weird to me. :shrug:
benhill29
03-28-2006, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Justice4Tara
The suicide theory never made any sense to begin with, as clearly shown by the above posts. One cannot dispose of one's own body very easily... Likewise, the tossing out there of the possibility of her doing this is silly. IMO, that was simply thrown out there during the tv interview in an attempt to make people consider that, and perhaps in the worst case scenario, believe that Tara had just run away...and to ultimately make the search for Tara come to a halt. Fortunately, no one believed that, and the investigation did not come to a halt. In my opinion, the ones spewing out info like that only open their mouth for one reason. To insert the other foot.
I could not agree with you more. I absolutely think that the suicide mention was just an attempt to distract attention away from whomever or whatever....Nice try...but I am not biting that apple either.
:rose: Always for Tara
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