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fsbiii

03-28-2006, 08:57 AM

Guess who.............

I have not disappeared, but I did receive a temporary ban for attacking someone on a thread. I have also been out of town and moving the last week. If I have anything worthwhile to post or a good reply to any questions, I'll sure do it. I just don't want to be accused of attacking anyone else, so I'll keep my postings to the basics and follow the rules like a good CTVer always should.

Thanks for checking up on me! (You PMers, too!)

concernedperson

03-28-2006, 09:12 AM

Glad to see ya!!!:beer:

4ANGELS

03-28-2006, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by fsbiii
Guess who.............

I have not disappeared, but I did receive a temporary ban for attacking someone on a thread. I have also been out of town and moving the last week. If I have anything worthwhile to post or a good reply to any questions, I'll sure do it. I just don't want to be accused of attacking anyone else, so I'll keep my postings to the basics and follow the rules like a good CTVer always should.

Thanks for checking up on me! (You PMers, too!)

Yeah your back:beer: Your welcome some of us wondered what happened. Nice to see you back.

bred

03-28-2006, 11:13 PM

Hey, I, too, wondered if you were on vacation or something! I thought I'd see you posting on Mary W. and haven't noticed you there. But glad you are back here. Are we getting closer to a resolution??? Let's hope and pray.

Jboils

03-29-2006, 07:38 AM

Babes

04-14-2006, 03:08 AM

where is benhill now?

concernedperson

04-14-2006, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by Sassy

Benhill is still alive and OK....I do know that...

Good news! We haven't heard from Benhill in days, I was starting to worry.

shelock

05-03-2006, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by concernedperson

Good news! We haven't heard from Benhill in days, I was starting to worry.

Does anyone know what happened to Benhill? His account is still active but he hasn't posted since Apr 6th. Sassy was the only one that acted like she/he knew anything about him.

concernedperson

05-03-2006, 07:59 PM

I hope to hear from him again. Very valuable poster.

luvmy2labpups

05-03-2006, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by HarperValleyPTA
If anyone sees him at the benefit concert, let him know people were asking about him. If anyone sees who?

luvmy2labpups

05-03-2006, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by HarperValleyPTA
Benhill, of course. That's who we were discussing and if anyone had seen him lately. Yeah, um ok.

Atok

05-03-2006, 09:04 PM

Did you make sure he got a green flyer too, maybe he doesn't know about the event?

luvmy2labpups

05-03-2006, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by HarperValleyPTA

If he comes onto the board at all, he'll probably see the sticky link first anyway. There's a sticky about the benefit concert giving all the info there.

What exactly is the purpose of this benefit concert?

luvmy2labpups

05-03-2006, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by HarperValleyPTA

All the information you need is in the sticky link on this board. But the purpose of any benefit is to raise funds of course. It isn't very clear. Can you clarify please. What does "to continue our search" mean. Who is our and what searches does that refer to?

luvmy2labpups

05-03-2006, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by HarperValleyPTA

Those searches would be for Tara Grinstead. Who is doing the searches?

concernedperson

05-03-2006, 11:33 PM

If April 2006 is a long time poster than I am ancient. But that is what people say about me all the time.

BFD - v2.0

05-04-2006, 01:04 AM

Originally posted by concernedperson
If April 2006 is a long time poster than I am ancient. But that is what people say about me all the time.

LOL

Oh, she's just been reincarnated.

She's been around for a while... longer than I have (and I was actually banned after being on here for about a year).

If she had learned to stay Simply Quiet at certain times, she would probably still be Meeeeeee.

:D

luvmy2labpups

05-04-2006, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by luvmy2labpups
Who is doing the searches?

Any answers here HVPTA?

Deepwater

05-04-2006, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by luvmy2labpups

Any answers here HVPTA?

Who is Harper Valley PTA?

Atok

05-04-2006, 05:31 PM

Thank you Deepwater.

:beer:

luvmy2labpups

05-04-2006, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by Deepwater

Who is Harper Valley PTA?

Thank you!:patriot:

fsbiii

05-04-2006, 05:50 PM

Now that we've established "where fsbiii is," could we delete this thread? :)

I'm growing weary of seeing my username at the top of the list every hour in light of recent activities on my lawn.

THANKS!

luvmy2labpups

05-04-2006, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by Hey Paula
I'm not HVPTA, but perhaps the poster was referring to searches discussed earlier on Catherine Crier's show.

Tara's family and friends have been searching places of interest, especially where the cadaver dogs had previously alerted to, near the structure which burned via a suspicious fire.

The spot the dogs kept alerting to, was adjacent to a pond. The specific land area is said to be approximately 18 inches by 6 feet.

An item was found in/near the pond, which Tara's sister will not disclose. It was given to the GBI for forensic testing, and it's said to be an item not generally associated with a person. Those responsible for the care of the pond stated that the item is definitely one which should not be expected to be found there. This is old hat hey paula. As far as I am concerned it could be a yo-yo. Until GBI says something of interest has been found I will put that in the rumor category.

concernedperson

05-04-2006, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by Hey Paula
I'm not HVPTA, but perhaps the poster was referring to searches discussed earlier on Catherine Crier's show.

Tara's family and friends have been searching places of interest, especially where the cadaver dogs had previously alerted to, near the structure which burned via a suspicious fire.

The spot the dogs kept alerting to, was adjacent to a pond. The specific land area is said to be approximately 18 inches by 6 feet.

An item was found in/near the pond, which Tara's sister will not disclose. It was given to the GBI for forensic testing, and it's said to be an item not generally associated with a person. Those responsible for the care of the pond stated that the item is definitely one which should not be expected to be found there.

Great synopsis of the show. Maybe you should post this info on another thread in the event it gets deleted by a posters request.

zorro

05-04-2006, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by luvmy2labpups
Who is doing the searches?

The family is organizing searches based on tips provided through the Tara Center. The searches are made up of volunteers and friends of the family. Perhaps you would like to volunteer to search, if so contact the Tara Center. If you are unable to search perhaps you would like to make a donation to the center. What else would you like to know about the searches?

Atok

05-04-2006, 07:09 PM

I understood the need for a command center early on in the case.
But I question the needed purpose of such expense at this point in time.

I would like to know why the Tara Center is not running out of the families home or something cheaper that doesn't require donated support for rent and electricity and phonelines etc.

I would like to know if the Tara Center has registered for non-profit status.

I would like to know how donated funds have been appropriated and what the center has left to work with.

I would like to know if records are being maintained regarding donations.

I'm pretty clear on searches. I would expect a large portion of funds would be applied to things like hiring dog teams when the hunting area is considered high interest.

That makes some sort of sense to me, but having a $500 a month office setting at this point in time does not.

If you know more, can you help provide some clarity so that people will WANT to make more donations?

luvmy2labpups

05-04-2006, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by zorro

The family is organizing searches based on tips provided through the Tara Center. The searches are made up of volunteers and friends of the family. Perhaps you would like to volunteer to search, if so contact the Tara Center. If you are unable to search perhaps you would like to make a donation to the center. What else would you like to know about the searches? Thanks for the answer zorro. If they are being done by volunteers why is there a need to raise funds for searches? A volunteer isn't expecting to be paid. So who is?

NancynNC

05-04-2006, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Atok
I understood the need for a command center early on in the case.
But I question the needed purpose of such expense at this point in time.

I would like to know why the Tara Center is not running out of the families home or something cheaper that doesn't require donated support for rent and electricity and phonelines etc.

I would like to know if the Tara Center has registered for non-profit status.

I would like to know how donated funds have been appropriated and what the center has left to work with.

I would like to know if records are being maintained regarding donations.

I'm pretty clear on searches. I would expect a large portion of funds would be applied to things like hiring dog teams when the hunting area is considered high interest.

That makes some sort of sense to me, but having a $500 a month office setting at this point in time does not.

If you know more, can you help provide some clarity so that people will WANT to make more donations?

Seems that you would be happy if it shut down.:confused:

luvmy2labpups

05-04-2006, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by NancynNC

Seems that you would be happy if it shut down.:confused: Seems there are other options that would not require fund raisers. :shrug:

Atok

05-04-2006, 09:30 PM

Think I'll save my money and use it for a worthwhile purpose.

gacountry

05-04-2006, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by Atok
Think I'll save my money and use it for a worthwhile purpose.

I am sure that is OK Atok, but I think the Tara Center will be around without your help. AS they have made it through searches, and information to people in other states, and all the many things the director would be glad to tell you about.

I find it sad that things like this are disputed by those that have never and will never help the Tara Center in anyway Or the Search for Tara in anyway.

This board is NOT the search.

Take yourself out to dinner and think about how good that makes you feel.

Atok

05-04-2006, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by gacountry

I find it sad that things like this are disputed by those that have never and will never help the Tara Center in anyway Or the Search for Tara in anyway.

This board is NOT the search.

Not that I should have to open my financial records to you; but the fact is you have no idea what contributions I have made. My personal financial support is not public knowledge, nor should it be.

However, the public should know how the contributions are being appropriated if you expect people to keep supporting the center.

You are correct that I won't support something that can't even identify it's purpose.

Atok

05-04-2006, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by neonorange

I'm sure most of your questions could be answered by calling the
Tara Center and speaking to the director. Then you could report back to us with the correct answers. How did you come up with the "$500.00" a month office rent? Just curious!!

I have no desire to make a long distance call and chat it all out with Ms. F*******, when there are people on this board that see her everyday and could just ask/answer the basic questions without getting defensive and bullying. I know lots of people have these questions so I thought I'd be brave and ask them. I can see why people didn't want to post these types of questions themselves, becuase look where it's getting me...

ANYWAY

I thought I read that $500 figure in the Tifton Gazette regarding leasing out the two office suites on Cherry, but I returned to that article and do not see that figure OR any figure reported in that story.

Perhaps it was released in something else, so I'll keep looking, OR my memory may be incorrect, but I recall thinking... "if they are paying $500 for office space, why not just pay the rent on Tara's house and work from there..."

I can't answer now where that figure came from, so perhaps you can ask Ms. F******* YOURSELF (which would not be long distance calling on MY part) what it costs to lease and if that is the primary expense needing to be covered. Or not.

You don't seem to have any concern about where these donations go or how they are used.

I've been around a long time, and have supported a whole host of charitable causes, after awhile you start to ask questions about purpose and use of monies donated.

For example, when donating through the Combined Federal Campaign I read through the charities eligible and I look for those who use less than 10% of the proceeds on administrative staff and salaries. I want my donation spent directly on the cause.

I don't ask all these questions becuase because I want it shut down, it's becuase I want it to be effective.

We're going on 7 months... asking what the money is used for is not crazy.

Babes

05-04-2006, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by Atok

Perhaps it was released in something else, so I'll keep looking, OR my memory may be incorrect, but I recall thinking... "if they are paying $500 for office space, why not just pay the rent on Tara's house and work from there..."

Are they allowed to use Tara's house already?

Atok

05-04-2006, 10:39 PM

Tara's house was released a LONG time ago.

elledub

05-04-2006, 10:45 PM

I believe the $500 figure is the amount of rent Tara was paying.

BFD - v2.0

05-05-2006, 04:39 AM

Originally posted by NancynNC

Seems that you would be happy if it shut down.:confused:

I think questioning the outlays of the search center is appropriate as long as they continue to ask for donations.

For the life of me I cannot really think of what they would need to spend further money on.

If there were active searches, I could understand food, first aid supplies, gasoline, equipment rental, etc. But I'm not aware of any active searches underway.

Maybe they have some in the works and are working toward the goal of being able to finance those searches. I really don't know because no one has said one way or the other.

But I feel anybody who comes out to the public and asks for money should be prepared to say what the money is being used for, it's only fair and it might even make more people donate if they can see the results and understand the use.

NancynNC

05-05-2006, 10:41 AM

This is my (as an outsider) opinion only of this line of questioning.
Maybe others closer can add or tell me I am wrong.

There is a power struggle going on in Ocilla. This group had their center in a room on school property. NG sent a crew down there and they were disrupted by a person. If this was just a rumor. Please tell me. The show was cancelled. Some people in the town went on camera and said they did not want the nation wide attention. Like get out of here and leave us alone is the impression I got. These people doing this have influence in this town. Tara's family, Linda, and Teens for Tara want to keep the center open and to do this, they had to move out on their own. No one can come in now and throw a tantrum and scare people off. I am sure that it costs money to rent this place. Water bill, electricity, etc. I am sure some searches are still going on. They have bands that are participating for donations. If you do not support this, it is simple, do not give.

Of course someone has the right to ask where the funds go, if they really want to know, call the Center. If they think it is illegal, report them. So simple. I followed the Taylor Behl case and they had a band fund raising, no questions were asked. There just seems to be an underlying motive here to me.

BFD - v2.0

05-05-2006, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by NancynNC
This is my (as an outsider) opinion only of this line of questioning.
Maybe others closer can add or tell me I am wrong.

There is a power struggle going on in Ocilla. This group had their center in a room on school property. NG sent a crew down there and they were disrupted by a person. If this was just a rumor. Please tell me. The show was cancelled. Some people in the town went on camera and said they did not want the nation wide attention. Like get out of here and leave us alone is the impression I got. These people doing this have influence in this town. Tara's family, Linda, and Teens for Tara want to keep the center open and to do this, they had to move out on their own. No one can come in now and throw a tantrum and scare people off. I am sure that it costs money to rent this place. Water bill, electricity, etc. I am sure some searches are still going on. They have bands that are participating for donations. If you do not support this, it is simple, do not give.

Of course someone has the right to ask where the funds go, if they really want to know, call the Center. If they think it is illegal, report them. So simple. I followed the Taylor Behl case and they had a band fund raising, no questions were asked. There just seems to be an underlying motive here to me.

Taylor Behl wasn't missing for 6 months.

But they stated outright that the money they were raising was to go towards a reward fund. That's a pretty straightforward description of what the funds were going to be used for.

BeachPatrol

05-05-2006, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by Atok

I have no desire to make a long distance call and chat it all out with Ms. F*******, when there are people on this board that see her everyday and could just ask/answer the basic questions without getting defensive and bullying. I know lots of people have these questions so I thought I'd be brave and ask them. I can see why people didn't want to post these types of questions themselves, becuase look where it's getting me...

ANYWAY

I thought I read that $500 figure in the Tifton Gazette regarding leasing out the two office suites on Cherry, but I returned to that article and do not see that figure OR any figure reported in that story.

Perhaps it was released in something else, so I'll keep looking, OR my memory may be incorrect, but I recall thinking... "if they are paying $500 for office space, why not just pay the rent on Tara's house and work from there..."

I can't answer now where that figure came from, so perhaps you can ask Ms. F******* YOURSELF (which would not be long distance calling on MY part) what it costs to lease and if that is the primary expense needing to be covered. Or not.

You don't seem to have any concern about where these donations go or how they are used.

I've been around a long time, and have supported a whole host of charitable causes, after awhile you start to ask questions about purpose and use of monies donated.

For example, when donating through the Combined Federal Campaign I read through the charities eligible and I look for those who use less than 10% of the proceeds on administrative staff and salaries. I want my donation spent directly on the cause.

I don't ask all these questions becuase because I want it shut down, it's becuase I want it to be effective.

We're going on 7 months... asking what the money is used for is not crazy.
I'm reading this and it seems only a couple of you are interested in where the donations go, so it makes sense if one of you who is asking should just call the center and ask them that question. I was just wondering why you'd ask someone else to do that for you since you are the one wanting to know. Most people have cell phones these days anyway and long distance is usually free on those isn't it? Not trying to make trouble, but these posts just don't make sense to go on and on and on about something that could be answered with one phone call. JMO.

concernedperson

05-05-2006, 08:37 PM

I would make the call but I am not worried about it. I have T-Mobile and LD is free. I would much rather spend my minutes on something that would add to or solve this crime.In fact, that is what I do.

Atok

05-05-2006, 11:10 PM

It was an easy question, it got all wrapped up in drama like everything else that gets questioned in this case and frankly, I don't really care enough.

The bottom line is no one has to give if they don't think it will help.

BeachPatrol

05-05-2006, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by Atok
It was an easy question, it got all wrapped up in drama like everything else that gets questioned in this case and frankly, I don't really care enough.

The bottom line is no one has to give if they don't think it will help.

That's true, but others can still continue to give if they think it WILL help. There are probably plenty of expenses that we know nothing about. IMO, it all goes for good and necessary things.

Babes

05-05-2006, 11:26 PM

IMO i agree that they can probably choose a cheaper place to hold the center but remember they did that and was removed by BOE so we cant blame them if they get a place that will do multiple task like "meeting place" , answer tips , research and probably even watch this message board ( LOL )...I think Nancy is right on her post above. No one is being force to donate anyways - you donate because you think you will help the family but you dont donate to scrunitize them then better not donate at all. I think AG's family can afford the cost of $500 a month rental for that center without any donations at all ... If they will rent a $2000 rent for the center then its their choice... you are not obligated to donate $100 bucks or $500 bucks... even a $1-5 donation is ok if it will come to your heart.

I hope you dont scrunitinize the amount they get from the donations just because you dont like AG. IMO AG and her family didnt force anyone to participate on this cause as far as i know :(

Babes

05-06-2006, 01:50 AM

Goodnight Matt :seeya:

gacountry

05-06-2006, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by MATTHEWsevenone

I WAS WRONG! IF they had an icon for eating your hat that would apply. I may have posted in haste!

:hat:

I thought in our PM I had told you to contact the Tara Center for your Thank You note. I did not know YOU wanted me to give you the Contact Info?!?
If I caused you confusion I indeed am sorry.

luvmy2labpups

05-06-2006, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by gacountry

I thought in our PM I had told you to contact the Tara Center for your Thank You note. I did not know YOU wanted me to give you the Contact Info?!?
If I caused you confusion I indeed am sorry. Instead of having people contact the Tara Center, can they just provide open information via a website?

Saunterer

05-06-2006, 09:37 AM

"The Command Center is the central location for local efforts to find Tara and bring her home. We are thrilled at the people who have come forward to assist us and know that there are many out there who wish to help and don't know how to. Hopefully we have provided an outlet for you here to allow you to be involved at some level."

"An account to support the operation of the Command Center Operations was opened by Teacher's for Tara at Planter's First Bank in Ocilla. If you would like to contribute, please contact them directly or contact the Command Center at 229-468-0667" ... "email to: command@findtara.com "
http://www.findtara.com/command.htm

Teens for Tara: "We are a group of Tara’s students, former students, and hopeful future students. We dedicate all our free time to the job of helping to spread the word of our missing teacher in hopes of her safe return. We attend parades and other events that other communities hold to distribute fliers, sell our tara merchandise, and take donations. All the money we make is used to help in the return of tara, and to help out with official searches that the command center holds."
http://findtara.com/WordPress/?page_id=10

"The new location for The Tara Command Center & Teens for Tara will be at 121 North Cherry Street, Ocilla Georgia. Our mailing address will remain the same P.O. Box 184 Ocilla, Ga 31774."
http://findtara.com/WordPress/?p=53

luvmy2labpups

05-06-2006, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by Saunterer
"The Command Center is the central location for local efforts to find Tara and bring her home. We are thrilled at the people who have come forward to assist us and know that there are many out there who wish to help and don't know how to. Hopefully we have provided an outlet for you here to allow you to be involved at some level."

"An account to support the operation of the Command Center Operations was opened by Teacher's for Tara at Planter's First Bank in Ocilla. If you would like to contribute, please contact them directly or contact the Command Center at 229-468-0667" ... "email to: command@findtara.com "
http://www.findtara.com/command.htm

Teens for Tara: "We are a group of Tara’s students, former students, and hopeful future students. We dedicate all our free time to the job of helping to spread the word of our missing teacher in hopes of her safe return. We attend parades and other events that other communities hold to distribute fliers, sell our tara merchandise, and take donations. All the money we make is used to help in the return of tara, and to help out with official searches that the command center holds."
http://findtara.com/WordPress/?page_id=10

"The new location for The Tara Command Center & Teens for Tara will be at 121 North Cherry Street, Ocilla Georgia. Our mailing address will remain the same P.O. Box 184 Ocilla, Ga 31774."
http://findtara.com/WordPress/?p=53

Thanks Saunter, do they have any open information in regard to donations?