MH Defense Team, Part Deux

[fsbiii]

Reading back overnight, I was shocked at the return of the MH Defense Squad. Early on, they were posting the same diversions on the local talk forums. I'm pretty sure MH and his lawyer told them to stop because their IPs and email addys could be (and were) traced by the admins... so they did. But now they are back on CTV posting VERBATIM messages from 4 months ago, under the impression no one will figure out who they are.

Bnutty - be more clever with your postings and your choice of a "B" in the handle. And the other one about LG dumping a body at his hospital? That's deplorable. In the name of Tara you post such a thing?

What's strange is that the Defense Squad was hot and heavy when MH was feeling pressure, but then they disappeared. This week they have returned with a vengeance. Wonder why?

[fsbiii]

BNutty's profile shows 79 postings in less than 2 days. Wow.

[benhill29]

Originally posted by fsbiii
Reading back overnight, I was shocked at the return of the MH Defense Squad. Early on, they were posting the same diversions on the local talk forums. I'm pretty sure MH and his lawyer told them to stop because their IPs and email addys could be (and were) traced by the admins... so they did. But now they are back on CTV posting VERBATIM messages from 4 months ago, under the impression no one will figure out who they are.

Bnutty - be more clever with your postings and your choice of a "B" in the handle. And the other one about LG dumping a body at his hospital? That's deplorable. In the name of Tara you post such a thing?

What's strange is that the Defense Squad was hot and heavy when MH was feeling pressure, but then they disappeared. This week they have returned with a vengeance. Wonder why?

I must defend what I said since it was taken incorrectly. I simply said we here on the local front are faced with this rumors such sa that. I never meant to let any one believe that I feel that way. I was just giving some feedback from what others in the community are saying....Purely old rumor that I simply repeated to be rumor...Big Mistake on my part. I too feel that it is deplorable but every one here has an opinion and once the rumors got it some just chose to keep sticking with what they believed. I for one have no idea whether MH, LG, HD, or whomever is the perp.

[benhill29]

Prosecution has always been my preference so I must not be the one who would be indicated to be a part of the defense team either. In fact, it is rather insulting because I never wanted to be a defense attorney but rather I always wanted to nail their tails to the wall and send the guilty up river.

[concernedperson]

Originally posted by Ocillian
I'm not trying to divert attention from MH but its real easy to see that AG/"Dr." Godwin has stirred the pot to focus the investigation on him once again. AG has supported HD just like we have supported MH and we have YET to hear from HD. hhhmmmmm??????

I am glad the investigation is going full steam even though I am sorry Dr. Godwin received a death threat. Tara deserves to be found and justice needs to be served for this crime.

IMO, HD is probably very active in the search for Tara and the family knows this vs. others that seem to be reticent about searching/allowing searchers to look Tara.

[Luckys_Wife]

Originally posted by seekeroftruth


I believe it was NOT bnutty who shared that rumor.

I read with amazement the back and forth between the lynch mob and bnutty and have 2 things to say.

I can't believe he/she didn't get disgusted with the attack and start attacking back. (I was impressed)

and

You wonder why you can't get a local to share information with you?

Why not take ALL the information that is offered and sort it out with an open mind? It seems like the only information that is "accepted" is info that supports your pet theory.

I thought bnutty did a darn good job of keeping his/her cool and continue to provide answers from his/her perspective. Don't ask the questions if you can't handle the answers. Don't shoot the messenger. If you don't agree with him/her/ don't engage. Ignore them if it makes you feel better.

One thing is for sure - if you are really digging and really listening - you are going to get several versions of EVERY story. I know this for fact. It has happened to me too many times already. So collect every version available. Record it. Record who shared it - a poster, media, AG, LE, etc, the date it was shared. You will be shocked when you look back and see the way it changes. But don't discount anything. Somewhere in the middle of all this madness is ..... Tara.
So very true!!

[suzee]

Ocillian,
I too was once an Ocillian and just posted on another thread. Just to let you know it is discouraging to me also to read and hear about people and families we have known and things we know not to be true be distorted in the media by others. I thought you may be curious to see that mHayguard signed his name on one of his post and the name was Larry.... Wonder if it's good ole boy LG? Not many believe LG and even knew much of him or AG before Tara went missing. They were not as "active" as the good ole people in Ocilla were in her life. You know as I do that most of what is on the boards are specualtions and many are truly trying, but when others use this board as a vendetta or as a tool to remove suspicion from themselves, it hurts and angers the innocent. Keep the faith and keep believing Tara will be found.

[concernedperson]

Originally posted by suzee
Ocillian,
I too was once an Ocillian and just posted on another thread. Just to let you know it is discouraging to me also to read and hear about people and families we have known and things we know not to be true be distorted in the media by others. I thought you may be curious to see that mHayguard signed his name on one of his post and the name was Larry.... Wonder if it's good ole boy LG? Not many believe LG and even knew much of him or AG before Tara went missing. They were not as "active" as the good ole people in Ocilla were in her life. You know as I do that most of what is on the boards are specualtions and many are truly trying, but when others use this board as a vendetta or as a tool to remove suspicion from themselves, it hurts and angers the innocent. Keep the faith and keep believing Tara will be found.

mHayguard's real name is Larry Harriet and he is a crime writer that is actively writing about Tara. He is also in contact with the family on a regular basis. I don't have the link handy for his site but I am sure someone else can provide it.

So, in your haste to change the emphasis to one of Tara's family members.....you failed.

I was wondering what it was that you posted meant on the other thread. Thanks for the clairification

[Atok]

Clipped by Atok:

Originally posted by seekeroftruth


Why not take ALL the information that is offered and sort it out with an open mind? It seems like the only information that is "accepted" is info that supports your pet theory.

Clipped by Atok

One thing is for sure - if you are really digging and really listening - you are going to get several versions of EVERY story. I know this for fact. It has happened to me too many times already. So collect every version available. Record it. Record who shared it - a poster, media, AG, LE, etc, the date it was shared. You will be shocked when you look back and see the way it changes. But don't discount anything. Somewhere in the middle of all this madness is ..... Tara.

APPLAUSE.

It's not easy to be thorough, but it is mandatory if we want to SOLVE this not just banter gossip, inflame sensitivities and "get a good argument going" with some stranger. Everything said has merit and bias... ok not sure about the incinerator comment, but I'm trying to be gracious...

Minds are like parachutes they only work when they're open.

[tiffanycw3]

Amen J4Tara! Another great post!

[Bnutty]

Originally posted by Justice4Tara


And in his haste to post so many, so quickly, to try to get attention diverted from MH, he contradicted himself many many times. I hope LG sues for that stupid comment about the hospital. What an immature and tacky thing to say. But then, one must consider the source.

First off, I was not the one that posted anything about a rumor of LG doing anything with a body at a hospital, get it right please

[Bnutty]

Originally posted by Justice4Tara

And if the ex b/f were innocent he'd be out looking for her and assisting in the investigation. Not blocking it. DUH.

The reason that MH no longer assists with the searches is b/c AG ran him off from the search center and told him not to come back. If I were AG (but thank goodness i'm not) I would want as many people as possible to help, I wouldn't pick and choose. And FYI, MH has not "blocked" any searches. His mother's land was searched in the past. All that happened recently was that his mother didn't want AG or Dr. G in her yard and continuously riding in front of the house.

[Bnutty]

Originally posted by Justice4Tara


In all of your *logical thinking* did it occur to you that MH is the only one who immediately hired an attorney to do his talking for him? Why is that? Put your common sense to work here and stop taking jabs at Anita. She has done nothing except look for her sister. How would you feel if you were looking for your missing sister and had to deal with hostile people who knew nothing about what you were going through and local LE blocking your ground searches? Would you feel a tiny bit angry at that point? I think so. She is very determined about this because, quite frankly, LE isn't helping. At the point that was fully realized, she had to take matters into her own hands. As far as MH "helping" in the searches, his behavior from day one spoke volumes. Just keep protecting your friend all you want. Maybe you'll go down with him. Have a nice day.

MH hired an attny which the right thing to do since AG was going thru Tara's scrap-book and plucking pics of him and then spreading them all over the news and accusing him thru her stories. Having those pics on the news could have really damaged his career not to mention she was running his good name thru the dirt and mud. Dang right he hired an attny and if your pics were all over the nat'l news, don't say that you wouldn't do the same. And as far as MH's behavior is concerned, I don't know what you are talking about b/c he was more than cooperative with LE and GBI from the get-go.

[RQjph]

Do any of you relize Why so much has been looked into on MH???? Because of statistics (on missing, harmed or murdered)persons 90% of the time, it is the victoms sagnificant other.. And statistic don't lie.... So using common sence one would look at MH. and any others she was involved in until said person was cleared. Rumor has it HD and AV have been cleared. So that leaves??? JMO

[Bnutty]

Originally posted by RQjph
Do any of you relize Why so much has been looked into on MH???? Because of statistics (on missing, harmed or murdered)persons 90% of the time, it is the victoms sagnificant other.. And statistic don't lie.... So using common sence one would look at MH. and any others she was involved in until said person was cleared. Rumor has it HD and AV have been cleared. So that leaves??? JMO

Yes, I won't go against those statistics, that is right. But MH was not Tara's significant other for a number of months before any of this happened. He was the one that didn't want to get married, she did. But around the time that all of this happened, she had other people that she was going on dates with. And MH was cleared, before AV was. After searching MH's truck and him passing (notice I said that he passed) the poly and he had an aliby for the weekend, he was cleared.

[goldylocks]

Maybe the other men that she was dating should be looked at ifas you say bnutty that mh has been cleared and as rq has said that rumor has it that hd and av has been cleared. jmo

[BevAnn]

Has ANYONE been "cleared" in this case?????

If you say yes - then please provide a link to such FACT.

TIA

BevAnn

[jela72]

Lawd! :punch:

Everyone's been cleared then? So whose left floating around out there? Casper the friendly Ghost, lol?

I definitely, definitely, definitely ... (lol, iow: absolutely) agree with the sentiments that either the last person to see her and/or Sig Other should be a serious POI contender. If MH was her vaguely significant-distant-other, then we should also consider Tara's recent-and-illegal-significant-other, too.

That's why both have received the Cum Laude Arched-Eyebrow Award on MY face :tongue:

Jel :)

[Atok]

Absolutely NO ONE is "cleared".

Someone find me the quote, I sure can't, but it said, "No one has been ruled out in this investigation."

MH's truck was looked over, that's fine. I don't think he used his truck to transport Tara or her body anyway. Glad they looked though, they should have been as thorough with Tara's vehicle.

Can't search ML's truck, that's burnt to a crisp.

How about HD, did he drive a truck?

Why do people need a truck? Tara wasn't a linebacker. If she left her residence willingly or unwillingly she could have sat/been slumped into any kind of vehicle, right?

[jela72]

I'm with you on that one, Atok. Apologies if my 'everyone's been cleared then' (tongue in cheek comment) came over as fact.

You're right about the vehicle. A truck, pick-up, suburban would not be necessary. Tara was a petite woman - around 5' 3", right?

Something's up with the vehicles, though. Didn't Anita say it appeared the driver's seat had been pushed back? Maybe someone parked away from Tara's house, sneaked up, entered her home and forced her into her car then drove off ... He brought her car back and snuk back to his car ... and?

Just thinking aloud.

[Saunterer]

Originally posted by Justice4Tara


It's funny you keep mentioning that truck. It's a nice truck. And big too. And those little GPS things are so incredibly small. You hardly see them if you're not looking. Just my opinion of course. Did Dr. G get some GPS fixes on MH's truck J4T?

[benhill29]

Originally posted by Justice4Tara


If nothing else Bnutty, you are mildly entertaining in your little rants. MH has NOT been cleared. Get your *facts* straight.
Bnutty, since you claimed to have been hanging at the Ocilla PD last night...or was it early this morning....then you should know that any member or LE, past or present, and especially with a military background such as MH, can pass a poly. The fact that he passed a poly doesn't mean a thing to me, especially since he knows the backwards and forwards of polygraphs so I am not willing to thing that this clears him in any way whatsoever.

[Bnutty]

Originally posted by benhill29

Bnutty, since you claimed to have been hanging at the Ocilla PD last night...or was it early this morning....then you should know that any member or LE, past or present, and especially with a military background such as MH, can pass a poly. The fact that he passed a poly doesn't mean a thing to me, especially since he knows the backwards and forwards of polygraphs so I am not willing to thing that this clears him in any way whatsoever.

No, I wasn't at any PD last night. One of the other posters asked me if I was there being a smart *** so I aswered with the same exaggeration. Sorry if you misunderstood.

[benhill29]

Originally posted by Bnutty


No, I wasn't at any PD last night. One of the other posters asked me if I was there being a smart *** so I aswered with the same exaggeration. Sorry if you misunderstood.

No misunderstanding on my part at all. I knew you weren't there. I was being facetious.

[RQjph]

Just who gave MH the poly graph . WAS it LE or GBI ///NO it was private //thing that make you go HHmmmmOriginally posted by Bnutty


Yes, I won't go against those statistics, that is right. But MH was not Tara's significant other for a number of months before any of this happened. He was the one that didn't want to get married, she did. But around the time that all of this happened, she had other people that she was going on dates with. And MH was cleared, before AV was. After searching MH's truck and him passing (notice I said that he passed) the poly and he had an aliby for the weekend, he was cleared. :shrug:

[benhill29]

That's right. He took a private poly and then passed it so that if LE did want him to take one he already knew the outcome anyway. He didn't take too much of a risk by taking one in a privately controlled setting.

[Atok]

* In response to Jela72 thinking out loud...


Tara's vehicle was unlocked, which people who know her say is NOT customary, that she was very particular on safety and very careful with her car.

Tara's driver's seat was pushed way back for her frame.

People have opined that maybe she pushed it back when she left her car so she could pick something up that dropped. I think that even if she did that, some cars pop back up to the steering wheel position and even if hers didn't, she didn't lock the car.

Other's have said this is proof someone larger drove the car.

As far as someone larger driving the car, it depends on when it was noted that this seat was out of position. Was it noted during the GBI fingerprinting session or before it? Who noticed this?

We know that AFTER that session had occured and dust was all over the white trunk, AG asked for the car to be cleaned and JP went and did it as a favor. Of course he needed to resize the seat to do so.

Could a person have come in their own vehicle and parked it out of the way and walked a bit to Tara's door? Yes. Could it not be noted that anyone was there? Sure.

People just aren't as observant as we'd like to think.

Could someone have let themselves in to Tara's house while she was asleep? Not likely or without damage.
She locked her door internally at night and so even with a key her front door won't open up if she is inside.

This argues that Tara herself opened the door to a person during this hour, following the opinion that she was abducted from her home, which is still not known as a fact. Who would Tara open the door to?

Any of the POI we all know. She would open it for a person SHE knows and we don't.

Did she head out of the house willingly in her sweat pants and sneakers? Many accounts of Tara state she was meticulous about appearance. Did she get re-dressed up if she wanted to go for a quick ride anywhere? Would she bother to leave her home if she was going to have a personal chat? Why not stay in and do that?

I don't think she left willingly. It's hard for me to imagine she would leave conciously either.

How did the perp. make Tara, in her sweat pants, leave her house willingly and lock the door behind her? Doesn't fit.

What about leaving conciously yet under duress? Unless she was handcuffed to her car while the perp went back and locked the door, I don't see it.

If she was in duress outside her strong voice would have penetrated the neigborhood. You'd have to say she was gagged and bound and shoved out to her car to make this work. Unable to get free while the perp went back and locked the door. I don't see this either. There are no forensics that I'm aware of from her car which would indicate this type of happening.

What does fit is her leaving unconcious. The perp locking her door and taking her somewhere else in her car to dump. And if the perp uses her car, then he has to bring it back and the timing must be quick becuase his own car is sitting out there.

[concernedperson]

Atok, I too, think she left unconscious. I think she was either accidentally hurt or intentionally hurt in her bedroom. Forensics being what they are the perp knew to get rid of the body. Not even considering trace evidence, the time of death could be noted and depending on the alibi, could place him in her home.

[janis]

Could someone have let themselves in to Tara's house while she was asleep? Not likely or without damage.
She locked her door internally at night and so even with a key her front door won't open up if she is inside.

Didn't Godwin find her screen had been pulled away from the window? Wouldn't need a key.......Also her keys and pocket book were missing.....Possibly whoever, used her keys to lock the door back.


What does fit is her leaving unconcious. The perp locking her door and taking her somewhere else in her car to dump. And if the perp uses her car, then he has to bring it back and the timing must be quick becuase his own car is sitting out there.



Not if there was more than one involved. Perp could have got out and waited for driver to come back by and pick him/her up....

[Atok]

Originally posted by janis
Didn't Godwin find her screen had been pulled away from the window? Wouldn't need a key.......Also her keys and pocket book were missing.....Possibly whoever, used her keys to lock the door back.

Who knows when the screen was damaged, it's been months now. Is the window big enough for a person to climb in?

by janis
Not if there was more than one involved. Perp could have got out and waited for driver to come back by and pick him/her up....

It's too complex. Every person added to the incident makes it less likely to be such a clean scene, or such a silent 5 months, and you need more motive.

I don't mean the perp had to have acted alone, but first I try to solve it that way unless it's obvious there is more than one person. Crime done by more than one perp against a vicitm such as Tara is not the norm, although they happen too, mostly in movies. I start by keeping it simple.

[jela72]

Hey Atok :seeya: ... thanks for your response. I've snipped your quotes as below:

Originally posted by Atok


* In response to Jela72 thinking out loud...


*** edited by jela: ***


>>> Could a person have come in their own vehicle and parked it out of the way and walked a bit to Tara's door? Yes. Could it not be noted that anyone was there? Sure.

>>> People just aren't as observant as we'd like to think.



>>>This argues that Tara herself opened the door to a person during this hour, following the opinion that she was abducted from her home, which is still not known as a fact. Who would Tara open the door to?

>>> Any of the POI we all know. She would open it for a person SHE knows and we don't.

>>> I don't think she left willingly. It's hard for me to imagine she would leave conciously either.

>>> How did the perp. make Tara, in her sweat pants, leave her house willingly and lock the door behind her? Doesn't fit.

>>> What does fit is her leaving unconcious. The perp locking her door and taking her somewhere else in her car to dump. And if the perp uses her car, then he has to bring it back and the timing must be quick becuase his own car is sitting out there. [/B]


Great reply.

You're right :) and logic provides that without forced entry, it had to be someone Tara knew.

The fact her phone was in the charger seems like she was ready to charge it overnight - probably a habit of Tara's; AG made her bed and the clothes she was wearing still on the chair in her room suggests Tara was in bed when this person arrived.

Also, the only reported evidence of things being 'not right' in her home appeared mainly in Tara's bedroom: the alarm clock on the floor and 6 hours out of synch, rumpled clothes, scattered remnants and broken lamp. The scene was reported as trashed with signs of a major struggle.

Agreed: it's possible the perp's car may have been parked elsewhere; it's also possible that whomsoever was there may have been there a little earlier waiting for Tara to return ... in which case he wouldn't have wanted his car seen outside of her home during her absence ... and, fwiw, I also don't think she left willingly and possibly not consciously, either!

If 'he' arrived a little earlier, he may have noticed the P's return (which apparently was around 10:00 pm, right?) So the perp would have wanted to be out of sighting range on that score, too.

We might also consider that IF ... the perp knew about criminal investigations, then there had to be ZERO fibres, dna, etc., of Tara in his car. The latex glove is a giveaway, IMO. Whoever it was ... came prepared not to leave any evidence.

Evidence around her bed indicates a struggle of sorts and that's why I feel she was in bed. The lamp fell, broke and was replaced on the side table (because a lamp can't snap at the bulb connection on it's own!)

I do believe that whoever it was, also waited for Tara to turn in for the night to approach her at her most vulnerable. A hand over a surprised mouth in darkness as opposed to following her inside. Alternatively, he could have let himself in and announced it was him to subdue a scream, or anything. (All speculation, of course).

Necklace broke off during a struggle - or was flung off bedside table as that's where the most 'disturbance' was apparent.

He may have grabbed her keys (and/or her purse with her keys in it), slumped her in the front seat, slipped into the driver's seat and drove away unnoticed. Returned, parked T's car and went back to his own car.

The other thing: people have said the deed had to have happened between 12:15 and 7 am, because HD was outside at 12:15. The P's returned at 10 and Tara just after 11 (if she left her friends about 11). This leaves a dent in the time frame from, say 11:15 through 12:15.

Options: Tara could have been gagged, knocked out, threatened with a firearm to shut-up or she could have calmly walked to her fate. The latter appears highly unlikely.

What motivates these things? Revenge, jealousy, anger, fear. Burlglary was not the objective here.

The card in the door is worrying, unless it was fastened onto the door - or if a different exit used to access Tara's vehicle (backdoor).

Missing: Tara, her keys and purse.
Entrance: by someone who knew her.
Clues: broken lamp, alarm clock on the floor, necklace, bedclothes, Tara's clothes.
Foolish: for people to straighten up, Anita to make the bed and folk to go through her clothes, wash the car.
Statistics: Significant Other (current or ex)
Why: rejection, blackmail, exposure, revenge

Questions: who had keys to Tara's house (although she may have let the perp in), why were 20 calls made throughout the day and none the following day? When did she last see MH or HD? Who else may Tara have been seeing?

Still find it very strange that HD would drive from one town to another, call continuously 'concerned for Tara's safety', park right outside and then phone Tara's MOTHER after midnight and get the neighbors to confirm everything was 'OK'.

Don't you? Thanks again for the reply...

:seeya:

[Babes]

Originally posted by fsbiii
Reading back overnight, I was shocked at the return of the MH Defense Squad. Early on, they were posting the same diversions on the local talk forums. I'm pretty sure MH and his lawyer told them to stop because their IPs and email addys could be (and were) traced by the admins... so they did. But now they are back on CTV posting VERBATIM messages from 4 months ago, under the impression no one will figure out who they are.

Bnutty - be more clever with your postings and your choice of a "B" in the handle. And the other one about LG dumping a body at his hospital? That's deplorable. In the name of Tara you post such a thing?

What's strange is that the Defense Squad was hot and heavy when MH was feeling pressure, but then they disappeared. This week they have returned with a vengeance. Wonder why?

Two words...

DAMAGE CONTROL

:beer: :seeya:

[NancynNC]

Originally posted by Bnutty


No, I wasn't at any PD last night. One of the other posters asked me if I was there being a smart *** so I aswered with the same exaggeration. Sorry if you misunderstood.

Yep, that was me and thanks for the compliment.

[NancynNC]

jela72,

Good work....I agree with so much you have written. I may have not understood your time line but Tara disappeared on Sat. night or Sunday morning, HD was there Sun. night or Monday morning.

[rhill]

Nancy...I remember the timeline as you mentioned as well

[jela72]

Jela and jello go together in this case :biggrin: Silly me :punch:

Thanks all. I got heated up on the wrong route. Nancy, thank you. Clarifying the time line ... the entire synopsis works AS LOGICALLY when it comes to HD's very, very strange reaction.

I just do NOT get that HD drives all that way b/cos Tara is in immediate danger - pulls up outside and drives off after a sleeping neighbor say everything seems 'ok'.

He leaves HIS CARD at the door?

If he was that close and caring he'd have called emergency. He knows the drill.

Taking my huge dunce-hat to bed shortly, lol. :seeya:

[pulaski1996]

:flamemad: I've been reading posts here off & on since Tara's disappearance...There have been several times when what I've read has angered me...And this is one of them...I just can't keep my mouth shut any longer. In response to Ocillians posts about Anita's "stupid comments & lies" & how Anita has "stirred the pot," that is completely inappropriate & out of line!! And if you had a family member missing, would you really still be crying on the news & begging for their safe return?? Come on...It's been five months...If I, or any of you, were in this situation we don't know how we would act...But I do know this, we would be trying everything to get our loved one back...I can't even begin to imagine the emotions that Anita is dealing with. Call it what you want, but Anita is in Ocilla to find out what happened to her sister!! She's not there to make friends!! She may be stirring the pot but by God someone needs to be!!

[benhill29]

You are so right and I too believe that the pot she has been left to stir is full of S***. I can't imagine how troubling it must be for anyone in this situation to realize that the odds are against her since she is up against the LE and instead of helping they seem to be resisting. I would holler from the mountain top for any one to hear if it was my friend, family member, etc. I send praises to Anita for being devoted to the true cause ....so she isn't winning any elections or making any friends but neither was Natalie Hollway's family doing so in Aruba. I am glad to know that someone cares enough to carry on the crusade and not allow this to another one of those cold case files that fall into the filing cabinet only to be forgotten. I hope this weekend will bring closure and success for Anita in her search for the TRUTH!

[Results]

Originally posted by benhill29
You are so right and I too believe that the pot she has been left to stir is full of S***. I can't imagine how troubling it must be for anyone in this situation to realize that the odds are against her since she is up against the LE and instead of helping they seem to be resisting. I would holler from the mountain top for any one to hear if it was my friend, family member, etc. I send praises to Anita for being devoted to the true cause ....so she isn't winning any elections or making any friends but neither was Natalie Hollway's family doing so in Aruba. I am glad to know that someone cares enough to carry on the crusade and not allow this to another one of those cold case files that fall into the filing cabinet only to be forgotten. I hope this weekend will bring closure and success for Anita in her search for the TRUTH!

Well my goodness since we are talking about Anita wanting the truth lets start by asking her why she was asked to leave a home in Ocilla after staying there for weeks? Please the truth. We have to rewind this whole case and start with the nontruths and hey WE MIGHT ACTUALLY GET SOME WHERE? jmho

[Results]

Originally posted by suzee
Ocillian,
I too was once an Ocillian and just posted on another thread. Just to let you know it is discouraging to me also to read and hear about people and families we have known and things we know not to be true be distorted in the media by others. I thought you may be curious to see that mHayguard signed his name on one of his post and the name was Larry.... Wonder if it's good ole boy LG? Not many believe LG and even knew much of him or AG before Tara went missing. They were not as "active" as the good ole people in Ocilla were in her life. You know as I do that most of what is on the boards are specualtions and many are truly trying, but when others use this board as a vendetta or as a tool to remove suspicion from themselves, it hurts and angers the innocent. Keep the faith and keep believing Tara will be found.

I think this was a really good post and I am bumping it because we have discovered that AG & TG were not close. There were some truth being told by locals and their voice were not heard by many. How do we get these locals back? It has been a year and these people have been through a lot and more then likely know alot more now then when they posted last. We could possibly get back to finding Tara with so much more information. JMHO

[readmylips]

Originally posted by OopsItsAdel
FYI Results, there are errors in both of your last posts. First of all, Anita was NEVER asked to "leave" a house she had stayed in when in Ocilla. Once again, you are being fed crap from local rumor mongers. Second, the MHayguard person on the board was "Larry Harriett" (sp?) who is a crime writer of some sort. You can review enough of his back posts and probably figure that out on your own if you doubt my statement.

FYI to all of you who persist in this nonsense. People are being quiet for a R-E-A-S-O-N. Write it down. Some of you already know why.


Shhhhhhhhhhhh..............
:seeya:

be vewy vewy quiet, they is huntin wabbits.

:rolleyes:

[mooloo]

I have no idea how the people in Ocilla feel, but from what I have read on here (in many instances), why would anyone local want to post any info and then have to defend themselves against the ones who are NOT local, who did NOT know Tara, who have NO IDEA about who she was and/or what she did, nor with whom she did it? These people, who often have more nics than Sybil had personalities, have jumped on the bandwagon and taken up "The Cause" with a blind vengeance.

As a friend of mine likes to say, "It ain't worth the freight."

:shrug:

Originally posted by Results


I think this was a really good post and I am bumping it because we have discovered that AG & TG were not close. There were some truth being told by locals and their voice were not heard by many. How do we get these locals back? It has been a year and these people have been through a lot and more then likely know alot more now then when they posted last. We could possibly get back to finding Tara with so much more information. JMHO

[readmylips]

Originally posted by Ambrosia

I SO agree with your post Mooloo. I can't see ANY of the locals posting info on this forum if they have a "lick of sense" because whatever is posted will be shot down quicker than it could be uttered. Results, go find somebody else to give you information because we is talked out around here. Once burned, twice shy to to speak.

no offense to anyone but imo you can only speak for yourself and not for a whole group of people. you may be once burned and twice shy but maybe, just maybe, there is someone out there who is local who would like to be invited to share. they may just decide to do it via pm and that is ok too. but to say that a whole group of people will react one specific way is stretching things a little and discouraging someone who may want to share what they know. all imo.

[mooloo]

I am certainly not speaking for anyone else. There are days when I can barely speak for myself!

I was basing my post on what I have personally observed and been told by those that are local.

I agree with what you say....there may be that ONE person who might have the ONE piece to the puzzle that hooks everything together. I hope so. And I hope the piece is put into place and this is all over.



Originally posted by readmylips


no offense to anyone but imo you can only speak for yourself and not for a whole group of people. you may be once burned and twice shy but maybe, just maybe, there is someone out there who is local who would like to be invited to share. they may just decide to do it via pm and that is ok too. but to say that a whole group of people will react one specific way is stretching things a little and discouraging someone who may want to share what they know. all imo.

[Results]

Originally posted by OopsItsAdel
FYI Results, there are errors in both of your last posts. First of all, Anita was NEVER asked to "leave" a house she had stayed in when in Ocilla. Once again, you are being fed crap from local rumor mongers. Second, the MHayguard person on the board was "Larry Harriett" (sp?) who is a crime writer of some sort. You can review enough of his back posts and probably figure that out on your own if you doubt my statement.

FYI to all of you who persist in this nonsense. People are being quiet for a R-E-A-S-O-N. Write it down. Some of you already know why.


Shhhhhhhhhhhh..............
:seeya:

OK. Thank you for your information. I appreciate it.

[Results]

Originally posted by mooloo
I have no idea how the people in Ocilla feel, but from what I have read on here (in many instances), why would anyone local want to post any info and then have to defend themselves against the ones who are NOT local, who did NOT know Tara, who have NO IDEA about who she was and/or what she did, nor with whom she did it? These people, who often have more nics than Sybil had personalities, have jumped on the bandwagon and taken up "The Cause" with a blind vengeance.

As a friend of mine likes to say, "It ain't worth the freight."

:shrug:



Thank you for your information I appreciate it.

[Results]

Originally posted by Ambrosia

I SO agree with your post Mooloo. I can't see ANY of the locals posting info on this forum if they have a "lick of sense" because whatever is posted will be shot down quicker than it could be uttered. Results, go find somebody else to give you information because we is talked out around here. Once burned, twice shy to to speak.

Thank you for your advice. Sorry you feel the way you do. I hope that you feel better.

[Results]

Originally posted by readmylips


no offense to anyone but imo you can only speak for yourself and not for a whole group of people. you may be once burned and twice shy but maybe, just maybe, there is someone out there who is local who would like to be invited to share. they may just decide to do it via pm and that is ok too. but to say that a whole group of people will react one specific way is stretching things a little and discouraging someone who may want to share what they know. all imo.

Good post as always. I knew there would be negative post when I posted. I always have faith that there are good people out there that care and want the truth to come out. Maybe that is what the fear is? I don't know? JMHO

[readmylips]

Originally posted by mooloo
I am certainly not speaking for anyone else. There are days when I can barely speak for myself!

I was basing my post on what I have personally observed and been told by those that are local.

I agree with what you say....there may be that ONE person who might have the ONE piece to the puzzle that hooks everything together. I hope so. And I hope the piece is put into place and this is all over.





i didn't take it that you were speaking for anyone but yourself. ambrosia on the other hand was and i just didnt want to see results discouraged from inquiring.

[Results]

Originally posted by Ambrosia
Thank you.

Your welcome. I thank you even more for posting. The posting wasn't for nonsense. The posting was to remember Tara. To remember in the beginning the goal was to find Tara. The goal was to try to figure out what happened to Tara. The point was to make everyone notice there were good discussions and there was heated discussions but it was for the right reason not for the wrong ones. It was to make us remember why we are here for Tara. JMHO

[mooloo]

I've been thinking about this post for a day or two and felt I needed to respond. Anita was indeed asked to leave the home in which she had stayed in Ocilla. The person who asked her to leave is a close friend of mine and I got the information from her, along with the main reason. Rather than go into details, let's just say that a change needed to be made. But...she was asked to "make other arrangements." Not "leave" using exactly that word, but the meaning was the same.



Originally posted by OopsItsAdel
FYI Results, there are errors in both of your last posts. First of all, Anita was NEVER asked to "leave" a house she had stayed in when in Ocilla. Once again, you are being fed crap from local rumor mongers. Second, the MHayguard person on the board was "Larry Harriett" (sp?) who is a crime writer of some sort. You can review enough of his back posts and probably figure that out on your own if you doubt my statement.

FYI to all of you who persist in this nonsense. People are being quiet for a R-E-A-S-O-N. Write it down. Some of you already know why.


Shhhhhhhhhhhh..............
:seeya:

[gagal]

Originally posted by Results


OK. Thank you for your information. I appreciate it.


Were you there?

[gagal]

Sorry results this was to OOPS ITS ADEL!

[One2Snoop]

Bump :rose: