Does MH Drinks alcohol?

[Babes]

As far as i remember, Pajadas said MH doesnt drink ( correct me if i am wrong here guys!)... But on the picture released at the new crime library file , He is holding a BEER. How do i know it is a beer? try to right click on the picture and save it and the file name says "PG-Marcus-w-beer.jpg"

http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/criminal_mind/forensics/tara_grinstead/PG-Marcus-w-beer.jpg


FYI
PAJADAS: I might add Marcus doesn't drink, but they were at a bar where a friend of his was playing in the band.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,174968,00.html

[fallenangelpi]

hmmm, he doesnt drink yet hes holding a beer in his hand???? How many other questions has he lied to??? I am wondering if he continually lies or if he is known for lying b4 this? Because when enlarged an focused he definently has a beer there:)

[Lawdog]

I'll be the first to say...beer is cool. Especially if it's a Bud...:beer:

[Lawdog]

Okay, that was uncalled for (but I still like Bud).

If he lied...once a liar, always a liar. They'll just keep getting bigger. Gut feeling after reading that "breaking news story" this morning is that he's involved....somehow, someway.

[Lawdog]

My only real thought is what would be his motive? He didn't need her sex, money or....anything.
Why? Control? No, she was chasing him (from what I've read...please update if I'm wrong).

Pregnant maybe? That would be a motive. He wants away...she "trapped" him (yes, I understand he messed around too...not a trap). But from what I've learned he no longer wanted to be with her.

Pregnant. If he did it. I'd bet that's the motive.

JMHO

[sophiafox]

He was holding the beer for his friends in Paris! Yeah Paris! ;)

[fallenangelpi]

Originally posted by Lawdog
My only real thought is what would be his motive? He didn't need her sex, money or....anything.
Why? Control? No, she was chasing him (from what I've read...please update if I'm wrong).

Pregnant maybe? That would be a motive. He wants away...she "trapped" him (yes, I understand he messed around too...not a trap). But from what I've learned he no longer wanted to be with her.

Pregnant. If he did it. I'd bet that's the motive.

JMHO

I would more than likely bet that some where he had told her something in confidence, something to do with a previously committed crime, or something that friends of his (LE friends) were involved in, and she knew toooo much. I think that if this did come down the way its beginning to appear to have, there is alot more in HIS and his friends closets!!!! I said it fromn the start,, this case has been botched!!! and I even commented about it being set up to cover up something HUGE!!!! and I am wondering if I wasnt right from the start now. Wish I would have stuck with those same feelings all along, but for some reason I later had this feeling that Tara walked away. :( I wish they would find her soon for her families sake.
Blessed Be

[Lawdog]

Originally posted by Sassy
Walking your dog and carrying AKA-47 rifle sounds like emotional problems to me......firing 100 shots in an hour to intimidate searchers sounds like the boy has a mental problem or needs anger management.......What do you people think? Could the stress be getting to him......not working for 5 or 6 months and living with mommy......is he about to crack (again)???

I didn't know about all this! The boy is simply nuts.

I didn't know you could legally own an AK-47 anymore. What gives him the right? He sounds like a psycho.

[gafan33]

Can any of you see what is inside MH's cup he's holding? No, I didn't think so. No one has xray vision here and no one knows whether it was beer in his cup or iced tea, mountain dew or cola. And further more when you right click on the photo of him holding the cup, you are reading what the person that originally downloaded the photo would like for you to believe. This is all!

[NancynNC]

IMO whether MH drinks or not is the least of his troubles.

[zorro]

I have asked several locals on several searches if they knew Marcus. The ones who did know him said he does drink.

[tiffanycw3]

Quote:

My only real thought is what would be his motive? He didn't need her sex, money or....anything.
Why? Control? No, she was chasing him (from what I've read...please update if I'm wrong).

Pregnant maybe? That would be a motive. He wants away...she "trapped" him (yes, I understand he messed around too...not a trap). But from what I've learned he no longer wanted to be with her.

Pregnant. If he did it. I'd bet that's the motive

End quote:

It was posted on this board that MH was dating an 18 year old and Tara was threating to tell her parents. I'm not sure if this is a fact or not, but IMO, this is a HUGE motive.

[mooloo]

I suspect an attorney can only say (or only knows) what his client has told him?


Originally posted by Candace


Yes it does say, "beer"...His attny didn't think we would find out..lol He looks a bit like SP in the photo, imo

[longcoolwoman]

Originally posted by Babes
[B]As far as i remember, Pajadas said MH doesnt drink ( correct me if i am wrong here guys!)... But on the picture released at the new crime library file , He is holding a BEER. How do i know it is a beer? try to right click on the picture and save it and the file name says "PG-Marcus-w-beer.jpg"



Who named that picture? I could save it to my hard drive, name it "Marcus-w-milk.jpg" and send it out to everyone I know.

I'm not saying M does or does not drink. I'm just saying the name of the picture isn't proof positive that he does.

[longcoolwoman]

Originally posted by Sassy


Do you happen to know why MH came home early from his job/employment out of country??? Did he quit, was he fired, or did his job cease to exist?

I have no idea. Just to clarify, I don't personally know M. I only know his folks.

[Babes]

Originally posted by longcoolwoman


Who named that picture? I could save it to my hard drive, name it "Marcus-w-milk.jpg" and send it out to everyone I know.

I'm not saying M does or does not drink. I'm just saying the name of the picture isn't proof positive that he does.

It is crimelibrary file so someone from crimelibrary who possibly took the picture did named the file.

[Babes]

Originally posted by sophiafox

Re: He does look like SP in that pic!
He was holding the beer for his friends in Paris! Yeah Paris! ;)

:lol:

[Babes]

Originally posted by gafan33
Can any of you see what is inside MH's cup he's holding? No, I didn't think so. No one has xray vision here and no one knows whether it was beer in his cup or iced tea, mountain dew or cola. And further more when you right click on the photo of him holding the cup, you are reading what the person that originally downloaded the photo would like for you to believe. This is all!

If it isnt a beer then they have the right maybe to complain to crimelibrary about it because crimelibrary owned and named that file. If i were MH and it isnt a beer then ill contact crimelibrary and complain about it...

[Luckys_Wife]

Originally posted by Candace


He's got more to worry about than a misnamed photo..imo
True , but I believe it is important to know if MH did drink, especially the night he was watching his friend in the band and then went on a ride along. I don't drink either, but I have been drunk before.

[The R]

Babes,

No offense, but thinking that MH has beer in that cup just because the pic is titled that way is faulty thinking on your part IMO. I mean that's really stretching it out there. I don't know if MH is culpable in any way but IF he's not then you are really taking a chance......
Why does it matter if he drinks anyway?

R

[concernedperson]

Dr. Godwin said on Catherine Crier's show yesterday that Vergil said it wasn't him walking his dog with a rifle. I heard it myself not a rumor.

As I have said before, the opinions of the searchers and the Harper family are polar opposite. So, it comes down to who you believe is more credible.

[Designer]

Originally posted by Sassy


Do you happen to know why MH came home early from his job/employment out of country??? Did he quit, was he fired, or did his job cease to exist?

As a former military wife I learned a few things:

If you quit it is called AWOL - not good;
Jobs do not end early - you stay for your FULL time;
If you are fired, then you do go home early but it
most definitely isn't good!

So, any way you look at it, the fact that MH came home early does not bode well for him.

[Atok]

(Not in relation to any immediately above me posts, just in reaction to several recent ones.)

This is insane!

In my opinion adding innuendo, suspicion, gossip and rumor to the fires around the main people of interest does NOTHING to further this investigation.

It's worse than useless it is actually damaging to the case and to the solution of it. It shuts down the ability to ferret out the truth.

While I have always been suspicious of MH's accounts of the evening and have a reckoning in my head that he's highly likely to be involved that doesn't mean he gets terrorized by a mob mentality. I wouldn't want family searchers on the property without law enforcement either; to easy to get myself set up if I'm innocent.

I hope this chills out a bit. It's one thing to have renewed interest in solving the case, it's another to trash lives in the process.

[threesnugbugs]

Originally posted by Ocillian


And if this is a sign of emotional problems, then there is alot of people in the country with emotional problems!


Yes there are. A big sign of emotinal struggles no matter what firearm was held or by who.

[Designer]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ocillian
[B]

YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT!!!! He is a private contractor who CHOOSES this line of work. He is no longer in the military and Designer's recent post is totally disrespectful and totally off key.

(snip)

Ocillian, I was not disrespectful in my post. What I said was based on MH still being in the military. My husband had a long career in the military so I know the value of their work.

However, what does MH do? He lives with Mom...and has no visible means of support. Successful "Private Contractors" - (Military, right?) are pretty busy right now. Just look at MAJ Bob Bevolaqua on FOX. I think MH may not be what he wants everyone to think he is - in more ways that one. JMO

[Designer]

Originally posted by Ocillian


Not being disrespectful? Maybe if your in the military a mission might not end early but if you are contracted through a company, that particular job can end early. Besides, AG said he came home early. Her opinion. I haven't heard MH say this. Somebody may prove me wrong but I remember AG saying this not MH.

Very disrespectful. Your saying he either got fired or went AWOL. How do you go AWOL if you are not an enlisted soldier?
For those of you who are really trying to help Tara, don't pay attention to crap like this. If you find holes in MH's alibi then thats fine or want to know more about AV/Tara's relationship, ok. Investigate it. But read between the lines when ppl post ignorant things about others.

O, Please read my post - I said it was based on MH being in the military - hence the AWOL remark. What does AG's remark have to do with anything? Also, why bring up AV?

I have been reading this message board for a while and I have noticed that you rarely have anything positive to say. We are not children here, and do not need your lectures. Each of us has the same right to post and no one has a right to belittle anyone. If you disagree with what anyone says there are ways to have informative, constructive discussions. I, for one, do not appreciate your insinuations and uninformed conclusions. Let's keep an atmosphere that makes everyone feel welcome, please.:patriot:

[Babes]

Originally posted by The R
Babes,

No offense, but thinking that MH has beer in that cup just because the pic is titled that way is faulty thinking on your part IMO. I mean that's really stretching it out there. I don't know if MH is culpable in any way but IF he's not then you are really taking a chance......
Why does it matter if he drinks anyway?

R

Because if he drinks then part of the interview on Pujadas is a lie that he doesnt drink and how do we expect to believe everything he will say if part of the statement he said is not even true.

[Babes]

Originally posted by Candace
Makes no difference to me whether he drinks or not...he still involved in her disappearance..imo

It actually matters to me because i wanna know if they were lying on the Greta interview. If they lied to the public then meaning they are trying to hide something.

[Designer]

Originally posted by Ocillian


AG remark has EVERYTHING to do with this!!!!! She's the first that stated he came home early or do you even remember? I brought up AV as an example. Just like HD, SF, ML or anyone else involved. I was stating if you want to "investigate" things concerning them in connection to Tara thats fine but why go as so far as to consider someone AWOL or that they quit or got fired when he is not even in the military. And I read your post again and it lead me once again to believe you were implying he is in the military now or was when he came home early. I have just as much right to belittle you as you do insinuating MH is AWOL or got fired. Stop making speculation/accusations on ppl who are innocent until proven guilty. You have no idea how these lies and untrue remarks have affected these ppl.

Perhaps "these ppl" should quit reading the message boards! We are allowed to speculate and will continue to do so. I have grown tired of this discussion but I am sure that we shall meet again...in fact, I guarantee it!:seeya:

[Babes]

Originally posted by Candace


Who is "they" MH and his attny? I think both lied, but proving it will be difficult.

Maybe the bartender or waiter from bar where they went can be questioned if he drinks and one local poster , zorro, claimed that he asked people who knows MH personally and they said he drinks alcohol ( not pertaining that night) . If he's really drinking alcohol and pujadas said MH doesnt drink then this is maybe a point that can ruin his credibility. Hmmm Greta needs to re-interview Pujadas and MH again i guess ehehehe

[White Dove]

Originally posted by Candace


Who is "they" MH and his attny? I think both lied, but proving it will be difficult.


Hi Candace:seeya: :rose:

[Babes]

Originally posted by Candace


I will email Greta and ask her to plzzzzzzz report on the Tara case. I thought NG would have something on tonite about Godwin's efforts, but she didn't :hopefully, next week.

Thats a good idea.
If MH doesnt really drink then maybe crimelibrary owes him an apology for naming their file like he's drinking a beer. But if he really drinks and Pujadas said he doesnt drink then my suspicion on him will even grow.....

[Rick Karon]

Originally posted by Babes


Maybe the bartender or waiter from bar where they went can be questioned if he drinks and one local poster , zorro, claimed that he asked people who knows MH personally and they said he drinks alcohol ( not pertaining that night) . If he's really drinking alcohol and pujadas said MH doesnt drink then this is maybe a point that can ruin his credibility. Hmmm Greta needs to re-interview Pujadas and MH again i guess ehehehe


Maybe its you drinking based on your grammer and punctuation.

[Babes]

Originally posted by Rick Karon



Maybe its you drinking based on your grammer and punctuation.

no i dont drink and i dont care about my grammar and punctuation. English is my second language and am sorry if you are too irritated on my post that you have to check on my grammar and punctuation. By the way GRAMMAR - not grammer. Thanks.

[Rick Karon]

Just joking babes.

[The R]

Originally posted by Babes


Because if he drinks then part of the interview on Pujadas is a lie that he doesnt drink and how do we expect to believe everything he will say if part of the statement he said is not even true.

OK Babes,

I understand that part....but I have to ask you how you can make that leap from assuming he drinks just because you saw a picture caption listed as beer-in-a-cup? Makes no sense to me and appears to be grasping at straws IMO. Have you contaced Courttv to ask who titled that pic; to ask the person how/if they knew it was beer in the cup? THAT would've been the responsible thing to do before posting.....

R

[Babes]

Originally posted by The R


OK Babes,

I understand that part....but I have to ask you how you can make that leap from assuming he drinks just because you saw a picture caption listed as beer-in-a-cup? Makes no sense to me and appears to be grasping at straws IMO. Have you contaced Courttv to ask who titled that pic; to ask the person how/if they knew it was beer in the cup? THAT would've been the responsible thing to do before posting.....

R

My original post is not assuming that he drinks beer. I am actually questioning if he drinks... It is clearly emphasizing that he is holding a beer. If i didnt post it , i wouldnt know from zorro that MH really drinks and there is a possible inconsistency on the pujadas statement that MH doesnt drink if zorro's statement is accurate. I dont have a responsibility on this case, i am just sleuthing and anything i notice or any opinion i form is what i will post. That's why this forum exist so we can give feedbacks and opinion on what crimelibrary or courttv posted on their site....

[goldengirl]

Stop wasting threads back and forth about whether or not he drinks. Your point is clear, did he or did he not have an alibi is more important. Did he or did he not have anything to do with her disappearance. We are all grown-ups here I hope. So the question here, is there a cover up? I'm not a detective but tell me . Why was the car washed? Who gave permission to wash it?
Why did it take so long for the police to put up yellow tape? Why was the yard raked? Why were people inside the house once she was established missing? Where did the glove come from? Why did LE overlook things or evidence just being brought forward? And yes it is clear someone has evidence but are they the good ones or the ones helping cover this up. Sure it is almost obvious that someone is almost purposely allowing critical things to get messsed up. Question is Who? And if MH is innocent, Who is trying to frame him, or has the power to do so? And yet if he is guilty what has happened to our town? Don't need these answers just something to think about. God Bless Tara

[Babes]

Originally posted by goldengirl
Stop wasting threads back and forth about whether or not he drinks. Your point is clear, did he or did he not have an alibi is more important. Did he or did he not have anything to do with her disappearance. We are all grown-ups here I hope. So the question here, is there a cover up? I'm not a detective but tell me . Why was the car washed? Who gave permission to wash it?
Why did it take so long for the police to put up yellow tape? Why was the yard raked? Why were people inside the house once she was established missing? Where did the glove come from? Why did LE overlook things or evidence just being brought forward? And yes it is clear someone has evidence but are they the good ones or the ones helping cover this up. Sure it is almost obvious that someone is almost purposely allowing critical things to get messsed up. Question is Who? And if MH is innocent, Who is trying to frame him, or has the power to do so? And yet if he is guilty what has happened to our town? Don't need these answers just something to think about. God Bless Tara

What do you expect on a message board?
All angles, statements and scenarios should be discussed because it could lead to something that we dont know specially if LE and GBI are so quiet about this case.
And i suggest you read other threads because most of your questions are discussed on another thread. But i can tell you some of your questions are really good and deserves a new thread of it's own so posters can follow on the topic.

[mooloo]

Maybe, maybe not. MH may...MAY...have lied, Pujadas MAY not know if MH drinks and may have to rely totally on what his client tells him. Has Pujadas made anymore statements or appearances on MH's behalf? Maybe Mr. P decided his services were no longer needed?

Has Pujadas said anything more?

Originally posted by Candace
It is important to know if he drinks..If he does, it means he and his attny lied.

[Babes]

Originally posted by Candace


MH's attny seems to have dropped out of sight.:shrug:

I would think that if MH and his mother have problems on the searches done lately on their neighboring land then it should be their attorney complaining to the local sheriff and not them personally.

[Babes]

Originally posted by Candace


Hi sassy..I'd like to know why Tara was banging on his window late at night not long before she went missing...What was the argument about? MH stated in his interviewwith Greta he wanted to break up...she didn't, but he didn't directly say why she was banging on the window.

VAN SUSTEREN: When was the last time you actually saw her?

HARPER: The 14th of October. It was on a Friday morning.

VAN SUSTEREN: About what time?

HARPER: Around 9 o'clock.

VAN SUSTEREN: And what were the circumstances?

HARPER: She woke me by knocking on my windows.

VAN SUSTEREN: About how far do you live from her?

HARPER: Six miles approximately.

VAN SUSTEREN: Is that something common, where she would knock on your windows, or not? Is that unusual?

HARPER: No, it's not unusual, but she was crying and was upset about something.

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, is this a school day for her?

HARPER: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you know whether or not she was in school that day as a teacher?

HARPER: I do not know that information.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you know what time school usually started for her?

HARPER: I would say around 8 o'clock.

VAN SUSTEREN: So presumably, 9 o'clock would be into the school day.

HARPER: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: What happened?

HARPER: She approached me crying. She was very irrational. And she told me that if she found out I was dating someone, she would commit suicide.

VAN SUSTEREN: So on Friday, after you saw her in the morning, did you see her again?

HARPER: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: What time did you see her again?

HARPER: She came back that afternoon.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did you actually see her that afternoon?

HARPER: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: And anything unusual about that afternoon?

HARPER: She said she wanted to hug me for a last time. And I told her it's not going to be a last time. We live in the same small town. We'll continue to see each other, meaning face to face on the street. And she told me, I don't want you hating me. And I told her, I said, Tara, I do not hate you. I don't have any hard feelings against you. We just need to move on.

[Bnutty]

Originally posted by zorro
I have asked several locals on several searches if they knew Marcus. The ones who did know him said he does drink.

I don't think that you really asked the searchers who really knew MH then because for the people who do know him knows that he doesn't. And for the picture, no one can say exactly what is in the cup. It could be water, cola, anything of that sort. If someone can dig up a picture that actually shows him holding a beer bottle or beer can, then post that one b/c the pic posted proves nothing. Besides, if he were to drink a beer once a week, once a month or never, I really don't think that is going to help this case.

[Atok]

CLIP:

Originally posted by Bnutty

... Besides, if he were to drink a beer once a week, once a month or never, I really don't think that is going to help this case.

I agree. People were using this mis-labled picture to insinuate his attorney made a false statement in an interview. I think it's splitting hairs, when there are more substantive questions to get answers to.

[One2Snoop]

Bump :rose: