Dr. Godwin finds new evidence

[Saunterer]

"I've found what appeared to be two blood stains," says investigator Maurice Godwin is determined to find out what really happened to Tara Grinstead. "That needs to tested and lifted for presence for human blood. So I've marked that there. You can't over look anything," says Godwin.

He examines every inch of Tara's house, especially the bedroom where he believes Tara's struggle with her attacker began.

"A broken nail with a dot was found right there. I found it in the little crevice right there," says Godwin.

Underneath Tara's bed, Godwin discovers broken pieces from Tara's lamp . "That doesn't appear to be done with a hand or anything that appears to have been thrown or picked or somebody hit and knocked it and broke it," says Godwin.

As Godwin lifts back parts of Tara's covers, he reveals more signs of a possible struggle. "A foot has caught that somehow, enough to bend that whole metal piece there," says Godwin.

From the bedroom, Godwin believes her attacker then forced Tara from her house and into her own car. "I believe her car was driven to a location, and I believe she was killed in that location and later on her car was brought back early Sunday morning," says Godwin.

A latex glove was found in front of Tara's house, Godwin believes belonging to her attacker. "I think they have law enforcement background. A lot of people commit a lot of crimes but they don't where latex gloves," says Godwin.

Godwin also examinesTara's carport for finger prints as well as well for more blood stains. "This is a reddish brown stain, that needs to be swabbed up, and test for human blood," says Godwin.

As the former police officer continues to question people in the area, and search for clues, he won't stop until he brings justice and closure to Tara's family. "I'm staying on this case until I see the individual responsible for this crime sitting on death row," says Godwin.

Godwin is currently trying obtain cell phone records of certain people of interest in the case. Through a method called triangularization, he can pinpoint where a call was last made.

http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=4619580

[concernedperson]

Wow! Great info. It seems Dr. Godwin is really pushing the envelope. BTW, I tried to get the link to open so I could read the rest of the article but it only goes to their home pape and wouldn't allow me to go further. Tried to register but it wouldn't let me.

[Saunterer]

Originally posted by concernedperson
Wow! Great info. It seems Dr. Godwin is really pushing the envelope. BTW, I tried to get the link to open so I could read the rest of the article but it only goes to their home pape and wouldn't allow me to go further. Tried to register but it wouldn't let me. Don't know. I clicked on the link and it took me to the article. Try pasting or typing the link to your browser.

http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=4619580

Also, be sure to watch the video ... VERY interesting. IMO, Dr. Godwin is lighting a fire under local LE, as we type. I wonder who's in a "sweat" this morning.

[concernedperson]

All links working now. Excellent video. It helps to see what exactly he was speaking of in the article. The picture becomes clearer and clearer.

I agree, he is causing some to sweat right now.......

[4ANGELS]

Go Get em Dr. Godwin. We are all behind you!! Good work!:seeya:

[concernedperson]

Unless Sundays are unusually slow this is amazing to me that few posters have responded. This is big news and I would think everyone who lives around Ocilla would be thrilled. This is the most exciting new evidence we have heard.

[bred]

Darn. Can't see the video. But the nail and broken lamp pieces are great finds...those drops of reddish stain...well, I'll have to wait and see about those.

Could someone please tell me what the video shows. Thanks.

[concernedperson]

Originally posted by bred
Darn. Can't see the video. But the nail and broken lamp pieces are great finds...those drops of reddish stain...well, I'll have to wait and see about those.

Could someone please tell me what the video shows. Thanks.

He explains the bed being bent and how it could have happened. It shows small pieces of ceramic material that is the broken lamp. It shows reddish brown stain on the carport wall that looks just like blood. So, my question is why was this missed before?

[Saunterer]

Originally posted by bred
Darn. Can't see the video. But the nail and broken lamp pieces are great finds...those drops of reddish stain...well, I'll have to wait and see about those.

Could someone please tell me what the video shows. Thanks. Try multiple times with that video link. It doesn't always "take".

The video shows Dr. Godwin in Tara's house. He points to a small spot on a vinyl floor (looks like the foyer).

In the bedroom he stands by the bed and points to where he found a broken nail with a dot. He shines a flashlight beam under Tara's bed, where he found broken pieces from Tara's lamp. He holds the lamp which appears to be broken where the socket attaches to the stem.

With the bed covers pulled back, he shows a bent bed leg, then goes through a motion with his foot ... simulating how someone might have caught it with enough force to bend it.

Godwin goes out the front door and over to the carport. He finds another spot (blood?) on the vinyl siding. He goes around to Tara's bedroom window (the one behind the damaged lamp?) and points to the screen which is pulled away from the window at the bottom.

[bred]

Thanks concernedperson and Saunterer...the video problem is with my old Mac, not the link. I remember a discussion a long time ago about whether or not all the bedroom oddities meant there had been a struggle. If you now add a broken nail and bent bed to the list it appears to be all that more obvious that a struggle took place.

Could someone who knows Tara please tell us if Tara 's nails were long enough to break off and perhaps had a dot as a decoration on them?

How about some speculation on the bent bed? I'm going to look for that picture of her bed and see what it is made of.

[Saunterer]

Originally posted by concernedperson
Unless Sundays are unusually slow this is amazing to me that few posters have responded. This is big news and I would think everyone who lives around Ocilla would be thrilled. This is the most exciting new evidence we have heard. JMO - Young Streat was buried today. Seems like it may have been a good day for locals to just ... take a break.

The new clues are interesting. Why LE didn't find and collect the apparent evidence is mind boggling. But I'm really wondering how Dr. Godwin got from a broken finger nail and lamp and a couple of possible blood spots ... to a familiar scenario: assault/kidnap/murder by someone with law enforcement background ... everything except name(s) and where to find the body.

Might Dr. Godwin have access to the official investigation files? Or should Hotwater give Dr. Godwin an honorary registration here at CourtTV, so he can post under Theories and Speculations ... like the rest of us?

[Rick Karon]

Good question sauneter about theories. Showing all his clues on television is fishy though.

[concernedperson]

Originally posted by Saunterer
JMO - Young Streat was buried today. Seems like it may have been a good day for locals to just ... take a break.

The new clues are interesting. Why LE didn't find and collect the apparent evidence is mind boggling. But I'm really wondering how Dr. Godwin got from a broken finger nail and lamp and a couple of possible blood spots ... to a familiar scenario: assault/kidnap/murder by someone with law enforcement background ... everything except name(s) and where to find the body.

Might Dr. Godwin have access to the official investigation files? Or should Hotwater give Dr. Godwin an honorary registration here at CourtTV, so he can post under Theories and Speculations ... like the rest of us?

I like your forthright opinions. I believe some of it is what he was told by family members. The rest we saw on video. The apparent blood spots etc.He isn't a stupid man and he saw odd evidence and why didn't LE collect this before? He jumped on an opinion as this case is getting icy and it needs to get stirred up. I think it is now.

[Babes]

I am looking forward for a possible more controversial evidences that Dr Goodwin can find. :seeya:

For Dr Goodwin :beer:

[Babes]

Originally posted by Rick Karon
Good question sauneter about theories. Showing all his clues on television is fishy though.

I wouldnt think he will give up his known reputation for showing make-up stories and evidences on tv...:seeya:

[beastieboy]

i think this is a good way forward - i was going to say good news - but i suppose you cant say signs of struggle and possible blood stains are good news but i hope you know what i mean, it seems like a promising way forward. hopefully some lead will come from this. well done to dr. godwin. i wonder as well why LE hadnt noticed the things dr. godwin has or does anyone think its possible they did but didnt make it come to light to the public for some reason? :confused:

[Former Juror]

Did the police ever use luminol in her home/car?

[Atok]

The family had to do it themselves.

[fsbiii]

I believe Luminol was used inside the house by the GBI early on before it was released to family. I do not think any LE used Luminol in the vehicle at any time. The family had a private investigator take the car many weeks later for further testing, presumably Luminol testing. The private investigator was later let go by the family. I have not heard any outcome from the private testing of the car.

[murdershewrote]

Why on earth wouldn't local LE notice this right away as a point of entry into her house, or at least an attempt to break in. It seems way too odd that they would miss something this obvious.:shrug:

[mooloo]

Or even if they did miss it. As long as the home has been sitting, empty and unguarded, someone in the neighborhood could have tried to break in. Maybe kids playing.


Originally posted by murdershewrote
Why on earth wouldn't local LE notice this right away as a point of entry into her house, or at least an attempt to break in. It seems way too odd that they would miss something this obvious.:shrug:

[Babes]

Originally posted by GeneralLee
Why was the private investigator let go? Are you speaking of the one hired by Anita Gattis earlier in the investigation? Why did she get rid of him?

FYI... Hotwater just posted this on a theories and speculation thread:



Hotwater
Moderator

Registered: Jun 2005
Location:
Posts: 70
FYI: Ron Hardiman not fired
Robert Hardiman, the private agent hired by Tara's father and stepmother, has contacted Court TV and asked that we post this message saying that he was not fired.

--Hh20

[Saunterer]

"We believe we have collected verifiable evidence that a crime was committed," Anita Gattis, sister of missing Irwin County teacher Tara Grinstead, said Monday.

On Monday, Godwin met with officials from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation to hand over the evidence, which will be processed by the GBI's crime lab.

Among the items were swabs of what Godwin believes to be blood spatters located inside the home and the garage.

Godwin also delivered to the GBI several articles found over the weekend during a concentrated search of the Green Road area of Irwin County.

"We focused on this area because of several comments we received from some of the landowners," Godwin stated. "About a quarter mile north of Ocilla, we found [lingerie] that was the same brand Tara wore. We also located a blue latex glove in a ditch nearby."

http://www.douglasdailynews.com/homepage/local_story_073085749.html?keyword=topstory

[PNut]

So, did the evidence verify that a crime was committed, as AG speculated?

Blood in the garage - I assume he means carport - I didn't remember it being found outside....wonder WHERE exactly in the carport?

[Its just me]

So, did the evidence verify that a crime was committed, as AG speculated?

Blood in the garage - I assume he means carport - I didn't remember it being found outside....wonder WHERE exactly in the carport?

I think it all was a bunch of hog wash. I feel 100% sure the bed was not damaged when Tara disappeared. Dr. G needed to do some research on this but his credibility in Ocilla is not too good. He failed to treat people with respect to their face and may have email problems. He will jump to conclusions and make it public but never retracks publically if he is wrong.
Example Dr. G posted here on CTV as Popcorn that IJM (me and I) was at the BBQ which was absolutely wrong. Never one word to correct this on the board but I did get a weak "I'm sorry" by pm. Just a DAJA in my book but I do hope he can solve this case but have my doubts. JMHOO and a few facts.

[fsbiii]

I think it all was a bunch of hog wash. I feel 100% sure the bed was not damaged when Tara disappeared. Dr. G needed to do some research on this but his credibility in Ocilla is not too good. He failed to treat people with respect to their face and may have email problems. He will jump to conclusions and make it public but never retracks publically if he is wrong.
Example Dr. G posted here on CTV as Popcorn that IJM (me and I) was at the BBQ which was absolutely wrong. Never one word to correct this on the board but I did get a weak "I'm sorry" by pm. Just a DAJA in my book but I do hope he can solve this case but have my doubts. JMHOO and a few facts.

:lol: C'mon IJM - you know you love some BBQ!

[Brainstorm]

I think it all was a bunch of hog wash. I feel 100% sure the bed was not damaged when Tara disappeared. Dr. G needed to do some research on this but his credibility in Ocilla is not too good. He failed to treat people with respect to their face and may have email problems. He will jump to conclusions and make it public but never retracks publically if he is wrong.
Example Dr. G posted here on CTV as Popcorn that IJM (me and I) was at the BBQ which was absolutely wrong. Never one word to correct this on the board but I did get a weak "I'm sorry" by pm. Just a DAJA in my book but I do hope he can solve this case but have my doubts. JMHOO and a few facts.

Do you suppose he is still trying?or still trying to make AGs accusations
fit?
jmho

[Its just me]

:lol: C'mon IJM - you know you love some BBQ!

:lol: Yep I do love BBQ but I am not a popcorn person or corn dogs either. Just don't go well with my digestive system. Maybe I need a switching. LOL

[Its just me]

Do you suppose he is still trying?or still trying to make AGs accusations
fit?
jmho

He has not made any announcements so who knows BS. I just know the feller is barking up the wrong tree with the bent bed and IJM being at the BBQ. :punch: might help me feel better.

[PNut]

I was wondering, since Beastie has joined us again, if s/he had any ideas when reflecting upon their post from over a year ago.

i think this is a good way forward - i was going to say good news - but i suppose you cant say signs of struggle and possible blood stains are good news but i hope you know what i mean, it seems like a promising way forward. hopefully some lead will come from this. well done to dr. godwin. i wonder as well why LE hadnt noticed the things dr. godwin has or does anyone think its possible they did but didnt make it come to light to the public for some reason? :confused:

[Its just me]

"We believe we have collected verifiable evidence that a crime was committed," Anita Gattis, sister of missing Irwin County teacher Tara Grinstead, said Monday.

On Monday, Godwin met with officials from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation to hand over the evidence, which will be processed by the GBI's crime lab.

Among the items were swabs of what Godwin believes to be blood spatters located inside the home and the garage.

Godwin also delivered to the GBI several articles found over the weekend during a concentrated search of the Green Road area of Irwin County.

"We focused on this area because of several comments we received from some of the landowners," Godwin stated. "About a quarter mile north of Ocilla, we found [lingerie] that was the same brand Tara wore. We also located a blue latex glove in a ditch nearby."
http://www.douglasdailynews.com/homepage/local_story_073085749.html?keyword=topstory

In the above post it states the underwear and glove was found a quarter mile north of Ocilla. Is Green Road north of Ocilla. I am confused. :shrug: A quarter of a mile is 1320 feet this would be right at Ocilla. What road north was the glove and underwear found on...this would be the direction of Fitzgerald. Unless I have my A turned around backwards.

[Its just me]

If Dr. G is no longer working this case he may want to give the folks over in Coffee County a phone ring. I read in the Enterprise news paper there are 10 unsolved murders over there. Just a thought if Popcorn is reading. :shrug:

[fsbiii]

"As the former police officer continues to question people in the area, and search for clues, he won't stop until he brings justice and closure to Tara's family. "I'm staying on this case until I see the individual responsible for this crime sitting on death row," says Godwin."

"Gattis commented, "He is just a phenomenal man and we are so thankful he has taken Tara 's case. He contacted us wanting to help and it has been an eye-opening experience. I think we now have a firm idea of where to place our energies. Dr. Godwin has assured me that he will stay with us until the end, either Tara [is found] or someone jailed."

"Dr. Maurice Godwin says he's given hundreds of cases a year to investigate, but usually only takes on three or four."

FWIW

If Dr. G is no longer working this case he may want to give the folks over in Coffee County a phone ring. I read in the Enterprise news paper there are 10 unsolved murders over there. Just a thought if Popcorn is reading. :shrug:

[fsbiii]

I think your "A" is aimed in the right direction, IJM. I hope mine is, too. I think the Good Doctor was confused or had his map upside yonder ways. I'm sure the items were found south of Ocilla and the Green Rd. identifier is correct. I just have a hunch on that, of course.

:hat:

In the above post it states the underwear and glove was found a quarter mile north of Ocilla. Is Green Road north of Ocilla. I am confused. :shrug: A quarter of a mile is 1320 feet this would be right at Ocilla. What road north was the glove and underwear found on...this would be the direction of Fitzgerald. Unless I have my A turned around backwards.

[Brainstorm]

IJM,where is Green Rd.?say,from the courthouse in Irwin Co.,please?
just wondering...

[Brainstorm]

anybody?........

[One2Snoop]

anybody?........

Well I'm somebody, but I don't know the answer to your question. Sorry. How's it going today brainstorm?

[Lindsey]

anybody?........

I believe Green Rd is about 5 or 6 miles south of Ocilla ... off Hwy 129. I could be wrong since I'm drawing from memory and not looking at a map.

IMO

[fsbiii]

It's the road that MH lives on with his mom, that's all that was important in the big "scheme" of evidence finding, IMO.

IJM,where is Green Rd.?say,from the courthouse in Irwin Co.,please?
just wondering...

[Brainstorm]

I believe Green Rd is about 5 or 6 miles south of Ocilla ... off Hwy 129. I could be wrong since I'm drawing from memory and not looking at a map.

IMO

Well I'm somebody, but I don't know the answer to your question. Sorry. How's it going today brainstorm?

Thanks, Lindsey,and hello yourself,O2,I'm under the weather,when theres weather,storms or rain,but I will survive,and thank you for asking...sometimes the weather explains my *****iness,sometimes not...
lol
jmho

[Brainstorm]

It's the road that MH lives on with his mom, that's all that was important in the big "scheme" of evidence finding, IMO.

I see, but if one was from out of town and wanted to plant some evidence,that would be,IMO a good spot,that one could ride there, throw something out,and be gone,fast,IMO.....
I'm just speculating.
jmho

[melissaw]

Does anyone know if there was ever any leads in the treats made to Dr. Godwin while working on this case?

[readmylips]

Does anyone know if there was ever any leads in the treats made to Dr. Godwin while working on this case?

donut treats?

[hypnotized]

donut treats?

IMO, probably popcorn crumbs!


Does anyone know if there was ever any leads in the treats made to Dr. Godwin while working on this case?

melissaw,
FWIW, not much, if anything at all. IIRC, there was a "spat" with one side of the family, and he pretty much disappeared from the picture. Occasionally, DrG would drop in here, drop a sentence, and drop out of the picture again.

[fsbiii]

Talk about a most appropriate Freudian slip! *LOL*

IMO, nothing ever came of the threats because IMO they didn't occur. Stand, sit, and squat to be corrected though.

:hat:

Does anyone know if there was ever any leads in the treats made to Dr. Godwin while working on this case?

[Wildfire]

Does anyone know if there was ever any leads in the treats made to Dr. Godwin while working on this case?

IMO, Dr. Godwin knows who made the threats but probably just isn't too worried about it at this point. All my opinion, but probably some locals did that to attempt to scare him off the case. JMHO, this whole matter could be cleared up by a local canary or two singing a quick little tune.

[Results]

IMO, Dr. Godwin knows who made the threats but probably just isn't too worried about it at this point. All my opinion, but probably some locals did that to attempt to scare him off the case. JMHO, this whole matter could be cleared up by a local canary or two singing a quick little tune.

I do not agree with your opinion on this at all. Dr Godwin says he can't afford *69 ... caller ID? I don't buy that and isn't he suppose to be an expert on cellphones? That being made on a cellphone you would think would be the most easiest traceable call to track down. IMO it was a publicity stunt to make it look like someone from Ocilla was scared he was getting too close..isn't that a little too far fetched? I believe this whole matter could have been cleared along time ago if 2 canaries would have told the truth in the beginning and not lie and damage the investigation to find Tara. Those lies were not coming from Ocilla. The only person that we know of that was at Tara's house that weekend was HD but for some reason there seems to be many that just want to over look that and explain it away as if it doesn't matter but to be honest if it would have been MH at Tara's that weekend for some that would have been enough to hang him. Why the difference and double standard for these 2 men. I have to tell you MH was single and could have dated Tara if he chose to but he didn't want to. Now HD on the other hand was a married man with a wife and 2 small children at home that wasn't important enough for HD to remain at home. I haven't heard of anyone crying on Monday because Tara was missing except HD and why would he do that when no one knew anything at that point? There are red flags all over the place for HD but some just want to sweep this under the carpet as if it doesn't matter. That is not right and certainly not fair to Tara's case. Tara needs to be brought home regardless of who harmed her and let the truth fall where it may. JMHO

[Its just me]

I do not agree with your opinion on this at all. Dr Godwin says he can't afford *69 ... caller ID? I don't buy that and isn't he suppose to be an expert on cellphones? That being made on a cellphone you would think would be the most easiest traceable call to track down. IMO it was a publicity stunt to make it look like someone from Ocilla was scared he was getting too close..isn't that a little too far fetched? I believe this whole matter could have been cleared along time ago if 2 canaries would have told the truth in the beginning and not lie and damage the investigation to find Tara. Those lies were not coming from Ocilla. The only person that we know of that was at Tara's house that weekend was HD but for some reason there seems to be many that just want to over look that and explain it away as if it doesn't matter but to be honest if it would have been MH at Tara's that weekend for some that would have been enough to hang him. Why the difference and double standard for these 2 men. I have to tell you MH was single and could have dated Tara if he chose to but he didn't want to. Now HD on the other hand was a married man with a wife and 2 small children at home that wasn't important enough for HD to remain at home. I haven't heard of anyone crying on Monday because Tara was missing except HD and why would he do that when no one knew anything at that point? There are red flags all over the place for HD but some just want to sweep this under the carpet as if it doesn't matter. That is not right and certainly not fair to Tara's case. Tara needs to be brought home regardless of who harmed her and let the truth fall where it may. JMHO

Again I agree with you. I don't know HD or MH and I don't favor person over the other. I go by what few facts we have in this case and there are red flags sticking up all around HD. I may be totally off with my thinking but I believe wildfire thinks MH harmed Tara and is saying so in a round about way. If wildfire has information to share that can help prove MH harmed Tara I am ready to listen but these little remarks is not pointing to much in MHOO
IJM.

[sogalady]

IMO, Dr. Godwin knows who made the threats but probably just isn't too worried about it at this point. All my opinion, but probably some locals did that to attempt to scare him off the case. JMHO, this whole matter could be cleared up by a local canary or two singing a quick little tune.

Wildfire, This is the first time that I have heard that Dr. Godwin knows who made the threats, very interesting ! FWIW, IMO there probably were never any threats, but please correct me if you have more information on this.

If your opinion is actual truth, then the "locals" must have been successful in their attempt to scare him off or have I missed the latest news of his investigation, I certainly could have missed any new information, please share if you have that available.

BTW, I've been around for a few months and I am not aware of those canaries who have a little tune to sing, please fill in the slower learners here with your latest opinions. You never know what the new discussion could lead to.

[melissaw]

I may be wrong but I thought it said in the Douglas Daily News last year that he had caller id but that when the person called his phone, the id displayed private or unavailable.

[fsbiii]

You are correct, MW. IIRC, he did have Caller ID, but the death threat was from an unavailable caller on the line. He didn't have *69 (because "you have to pay for that service"), so he couldn't trace the call right back and see who was threatening him. He stated in the media that he told the law about the threat, but apparently nothing came of it, IMO.

I personally doubt it happened at all, but he probably does have an unavailable caller on his id at that time/day that he could attribute the story to, IMO. There wasn't anything about him that wasn't dramatic and attention-seeking, IMO. Not sure why that was so important, but not really a concern either.

:hat:

I may be wrong but I thought it said in the Douglas Daily News last year that he had caller id but that when the person called his phone, the id displayed private or unavailable.

[Wildfire]

I do not agree with your opinion on this at all. Dr Godwin says he can't afford *69 ... caller ID? I don't buy that and isn't he suppose to be an expert on cellphones? That being made on a cellphone you would think would be the most easiest traceable call to track down. IMO it was a publicity stunt to make it look like someone from Ocilla was scared he was getting too close..isn't that a little too far fetched? I believe this whole matter could have been cleared along time ago if 2 canaries would have told the truth in the beginning and not lie and damage the investigation to find Tara. Those lies were not coming from Ocilla. The only person that we know of that was at Tara's house that weekend was HD but for some reason there seems to be many that just want to over look that and explain it away as if it doesn't matter but to be honest if it would have been MH at Tara's that weekend for some that would have been enough to hang him. Why the difference and double standard for these 2 men. I have to tell you MH was single and could have dated Tara if he chose to but he didn't want to. Now HD on the other hand was a married man with a wife and 2 small children at home that wasn't important enough for HD to remain at home. I haven't heard of anyone crying on Monday because Tara was missing except HD and why would he do that when no one knew anything at that point? There are red flags all over the place for HD but some just want to sweep this under the carpet as if it doesn't matter. That is not right and certainly not fair to Tara's case. Tara needs to be brought home regardless of who harmed her and let the truth fall where it may. JMHO
My original post concerned my opinion of the phone call Dr. Godwin received, and did not concern anything about HD. Also, I don't know if Dr. Godwin's call was from a cell phone or not. I don't recall reading that anywhere, but I certainly could have missed it. But my opinions in my original post are the same. And they are just that. Opinions.

[Wildfire]

Again I agree with you. I don't know HD or MH and I don't favor person over the other. I go by what few facts we have in this case and there are red flags sticking up all around HD. I may be totally off with my thinking but I believe wildfire thinks MH harmed Tara and is saying so in a round about way. If wildfire has information to share that can help prove MH harmed Tara I am ready to listen but these little remarks is not pointing to much in MHOO
IJM.

My belief is that someone local knows what happened to Tara. Nothing more, nothing less. That's my belief and I'm sure it is shared by others regardless of whether they voice those opinions or not. IMO, only a small percentage of the true population of Ocilla post and/or read this message board. Therefore, the majority may very well believe as I do and no one would ever know it. JMO.

[Its just me]

My belief is that someone local knows what happened to Tara. Nothing more, nothing less. That's my belief and I'm sure it is shared by others regardless of whether they voice those opinions or not. IMO, only a small percentage of the true population of Ocilla post and/or read this message board. Therefore, the majority may very well believe as I do and no one would ever know it. JMO.

By your avatar I think your leaning toward MH. I feel sure your opinion is shared by some in Ocilla because there was a division down to close friends which in my mind was created by that first finger pointing on day one before the investigation may have even started by the GBI. You may be correct the majority "may" believe as you do but on the other hand they "may" not. I do KNOW there are several that do not. Beliefs may be important but I am only going on what I know and the only person I can connect to Tara's is HD. IJM

[Hey Paula]

My belief is that someone local knows what happened to Tara. Nothing more, nothing less. That's my belief and I'm sure it is shared by others regardless of whether they voice those opinions or not. IMO, only a small percentage of the true population of Ocilla post and/or read this message board. Therefore, the majority may very well believe as I do and no one would ever know it. JMO.

I concur with your thoughts that someone has to know something, especially in a town where everyone seems to know everyone. Even if no one actually witnessed the causation of Tara's disappearance, those who were last to see and/or speak to her, should be able to supply info which could lead to solving this case.

IMO

[Brainstorm]

I concur with your thoughts that someone has to know something, especially in a town where everyone seems to know everyone. Even if no one actually witnessed the causation of Tara's disappearance, those who were last to see and/or speak to her, should be able to supply info which could lead to solving this case.

IMO

I disagree.The very nature of Taras relationship with HD was secretive,so its POSSIBLE and entirly likely,IMO for this to happen and no one in town even know.Even tho they knew she was having an affair, no one knew when,where etc. and well, its almost a perfect crime, isnt it? JMHO

[Wildfire]

I concur with your thoughts that someone has to know something, especially in a town where everyone seems to know everyone. Even if no one actually witnessed the causation of Tara's disappearance, those who were last to see and/or speak to her, should be able to supply info which could lead to solving this case.

IMO
Thank you, and I totally agree. Someone probably knows some "little thing" that they are not bringing forth. That one little thing could be something that could lead to Tara. Insignificant to some, very significant to others. JMHO, but locals know something they aren't talking about (as hard as that may be to visualize), i.e. people in Ocilla "not" talking. I agree, it's a stretch, but it's still my opinion.

[Brainstorm]

Thank you, and I totally agree. Someone probably knows some "little thing" that they are not bringing forth. That one little thing could be something that could lead to Tara. Insignificant to some, very significant to others. JMHO, but locals know something they aren't talking about (as hard as that may be to visualize), i.e. people in Ocilla "not" talking. I agree, it's a stretch, but it's still my opinion.

I think HD,AG & LG know some"little things" (yeh,right) that THEY ARE NOT BRINGING FORTH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jmho

[Wildfire]

I think HD,AG & LG know some"little things" (yeh,right) that THEY ARE NOT BRINGING FORTH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jmho

I was speaking of people from Ocilla.

Since you mentioned specific individuals, though they are not from Ocilla, this is still important. Because if you know of some facts that are not being turned in, you should report those facts immediately to someone at the GBI or your local LE. You should never withhold any info you know to be true. Just FYI, and good luck, because every little bit helps you know, as long as it's fact and not just rumor.

[Brainstorm]

I was speaking of people from Ocilla.

Since you mentioned specific individuals, though they are not from Ocilla, this is still important. Because if you know of some facts that are not being turned in, you should report those facts immediately to someone at the GBI or your local LE. You should never withhold any info you know to be true. Just FYI, and good luck, because every little bit helps you know, as long as it's fact and not just rumor.

Well, that was elementary,IMO. I dont need your advice.WTH? where have YOU been? No matter,dont respond. I dont care and IMO, DEFLECTION.PERIOD

[Wildfire]

Well, that was elementary,IMO. I dont need your advice.WTH? where have YOU been? No matter,dont respond. I dont care and IMO, DEFLECTION.PERIOD

In reading your post I take that to mean you do not have real facts. But in the event you do, please turn them in to the appropriate officials. Anything at all could be important IMO.

[Its just me]

EXACTLY and *69 dialing had nothing to do with it. He wouldn't have found out who called by dialing *69.

If this was not a local call I think it is a "possibility" that his long distance sevice could have traced where the call came from.

[fsbiii]

Just a refresher on this supposed/potential/alleged death threat that apparently couldn't be traced to a human being, IMO. *69 or no, IMO it was just a dramatic overture for his finale.

Godwin said he did not hit *69 which might have revealed the origin of the call. "I don't have that service. I mean, you have to pay extra for it. That's a service I don't have." Godwin said he is convinced that the call was related to his work on the Tara probe, though at this point, he says, he does not know who made it. He said he is taking the threat seriously enough to report it the state authorities in North Carolina, who would have jurisdiction in the case, and also said this morning that he plans to contact agents from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation with whom he has been sharing information to let them know about the potential threat. A spokeswoman for the GBI said early Monday that the department had not received any information about the alleged threat, and that under ordinary circumstances, such a case would be handled by the authorities in Godwin's home state, and if necessary by the Irwin County Sheriff's Department in Ocilla. Noting what he claims are strained relations with the Irwin County Sheriff's Department, Godwin said he had not yet notified them of the threat.

[Its just me]

Just a refresher on this supposed/potential/alleged death threat that apparently couldn't be traced to a human being, IMO. *69 or no, IMO it was just a dramatic overture for his finale.

Godwin said he did not hit *69 which might have revealed the origin of the call. "I don't have that service. I mean, you have to pay extra for it. That's a service I don't have." Godwin said he is convinced that the call was related to his work on the Tara probe, though at this point, he says, he does not know who made it. He said he is taking the threat seriously enough to report it the state authorities in North Carolina, who would have jurisdiction in the case, and also said this morning that he plans to contact agents from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation with whom he has been sharing information to let them know about the potential threat. A spokeswoman for the GBI said early Monday that the department had not received any information about the alleged threat, and that under ordinary circumstances, such a case would be handled by the authorities in Godwin's home state, and if necessary by the Irwin County Sheriff's Department in Ocilla. Noting what he claims are strained relations with the Irwin County Sheriff's Department, Godwin said he had not yet notified them of the threat.

No charges has been made that I'm aware of.....just drama for public exposure...Too stingy to pay for *69 I think dismisses any possibility of fogged winnders unless caused by eating too much popcorn on a cool night. :D

Thanks for the information with printed evidence that's not hearsay or rumor which has become a major issue for certain people.

[fsbiii]

I thank you, allegedly. ;)

No charges has been made that I'm aware of.....just drama for public exposure...Too stingy to pay for *69 I think dismisses any possibility of fogged winnders unless caused by eating too much popcorn on a cool night. :D

Thanks for the information with printed evidence that's not hearsay or rumor which has become a major issue for certain people.

[Brainstorm]

In reading your post I take that to mean you do not have real facts. But in the event you do, please turn them in to the appropriate officials. Anything at all could be important IMO.

Dont take this the wrong way,WF,but you can bet your sweet &^&^ I know how to "turn them in to the appropriate officials" and please,just ignore my post,instead of taking them,in any fashion. I have spoken with the Chief,maybe a couple of months ago,He is a very nice,open,honest,caring LE officer. Have you spoken to him or any LE?
just what are you bringing here WF? ANYTHING,PRODUCTIVE?
can you explain the list of questions we have,concerns about HD? and his actions that last wknd?
jmho

ALLEGEDLY

[One2Snoop]

Bump :rose: