An Astrological Peek

[thesestars]

The Georgia Bureau of Investigation published a Data of Birth for Tara Grinstread as November 14th, 1974.

Using this date to erect a Natal Chart for Tara's birth I will attempt to interpret her star placements in an effort to gain some insight into her disappearance, her abductor, and hopefully a location.

Tara's Natal Chart

I noted that Tara has four planets all transitting the sign of Scorpio at her birth; if she was born sometime before 11:30 AM on the 14th of November she will also have her Moon in the sign of Scorpio making five birth planets deposited in Scorpio. This high concentration of Scorpio in her chart would indicate that Tara's disappearance is directly related to someone who she knows and who she has been intimate with whether at the time of her disappearance or in the past.

Disappearance Chart

I also noted that Tara had the planet Uranus at birth transitting the 29th degree of Libra. On 10/22/05 @ 11:00 PM (when it was reported it was the last time someone saw her alive) both the Sun and the planet Jupiter were holding the same exact celestial measurement of 29 degrees Libra. This astronomical finding is not common place and so it leads me to believe that it holds a very vital link to who brought harm to her.

Her own natal Sun in Scorpio trining Saturn and conjunct Venus is revealing to me someone who is very good looking and who is set in a career that involves some form of public recognition. The Scorpio/Cancer connotation suggests a law enforcement authority (sun in scorpio) or a high level care giver and/or protector (Saturn in Cancer).

Due to transitting Mercury's activity over her Natal Sun/Venus conjunction at the time of her disappearance, I would give the law enforcement angel more weight. This aspect would also describe the person to have dark hair and eyes, well built on the stocky side, and with a wave in his hair.

Sadly, I have also arrived at the conclusion that she has past. There are three heavily influential aspects pertaining to death occuring at her disappearance. They involve transitting Pluto's conjunction to her progessed Sun, transitting Saturn's square to her natal Mars, and transitting Merucry's conjunction over her natal Sun. In addition, and moreover, her progressed Moon was forming an opposition to her natal place Saturn. Another interpretation of the Pluto/Sun aspect suggests that this man was obsessed with her and angry because he lost control over her.

The Sun/Jupiter conjunction over her natal Uranus tells me that on an impulse her assailant decided to try to persuade Tara to his way of thinking. The Sun/Jupiter conjunction transitting the last (finishing) degrees of the Libra zodiac sign tells me he wanted to be done (finished) with this relationship (Libra) and was making an attempt to sway her one last time.

Locations for her Remains

In the past cases of abduction that I have reviewed, wherein the exact times were know, I have seen it be that a planet in the natal chart exactly aligning with a mathematical position at the most east point of the horizon at the time of the disappearance or the abduction. Using this, it can be figured to find an exact time of danger happening to Tara. In this case, it appears to be 11:50 PM when her Natal Saturn (restriction) would be conjuncting the ascendant rising @ 18 degrees of Cancer.

The keywords here are Ascancant (Face), Saturn (OLD or DEPRESSED) in Cancer (emotional authority figure).

Re-erecting the disappearance chart for 11:50PM on the 22nd it can now be used for locational purposes. In this particular case, there are planets scattered around the chart making it difficult to hone in on a high energy direction of gravitational pull. The planets' strength has to be weighed.

I would make an educated guess that she is no less than 8 miles or more than 20 miles away from her home. The high concentration of the water sign Scorpio in her chart certainly suggests water. The Sun/Jupiter conjunction moving over her natal Uranus suggests a Bridge or Railway. Where is there water moving under a bridge or railway in the directions noted below?

The Moon and Uranus are trining tightly a high indication of movement for Tara. The Moon heads out towards the west (Mystic Highway 32) and Uranus heads towards the railroad inbetween 319 and Frank Road.

Venus and Pluto conjunct are position south by east right below Doughlas Hwy 32

The Sun/Jupiter conjunction is pulling direction south by east of her home near 129.

Her name, TARA GRINSTEAD

This next technique can be quite fascinating, and brutatly honest. Just the the anagram OLD WEST ACTION speaks the truth about the famous actor CLINT EASTWOOD, so will some of the anagrams that can be out of Tara's name.

Such as when I used the word DANGER from her name to for the anagram, DANGER START with the I and the A left over, could that mean the DANGER STARTed In the Am.

I found the word TRIST in her name, which of course is an romantic affair. The word used in an anagram is A TRIST, A DANGER.

I thought finding the word STAGED interesting, and so, found the angrama STAGED TARRAIN, which means, someone STAGED an AREA around her house, her car, her belongings. Yes, TARRAIN is spelled incorrectly, but the sound is there.

While thinking about the high concentration of water (Scorpio)being highlighted in her natal chart AND finding the word DRAINAGE caught my attention. An anagram of her name using the word DRAINAGE is DRAINAGE START. So where in the directions listed above, in the miles of 8 to 20, is there a starting place for water drainage?

And Lastly, I found the word for the Sun Sign ARIES in her name. Tara does not have not one planet deposited at her birth in the sign of ARIES, so who does? Any of the suspects born between March 21st and April 20th? Would love to know?

In cases the don't ever get solved, Mercury is usually retrograde at the time of the crime, it is not so in this case of Tara's disappearance, so this crime against her will be solved its just a matter of time. The Moon's progressed movement from the the time of disappearance reveals solvability near September of 2006.

The evidence needed can be seen by the planet Mercury at the time of the crime as well. Which is in the sign of Scorpio, indicating personal property, such as land, or vehicles, and because Mercury is involved in an opposition to Mars in Taurus, work clothes or a uniformed used for working in certain conditions.

If anyone can provide an exact time of birth for Tara it would certainly help to confirm an environment for her, as well as, an assailant. If anyone can provide me with a middle name for Tara it too will have more to reveal about her demise.


Renee Francis (http://www.reneefrancis.com/missingchildren/index.htm)

[ipswitch]

I am very interested in your readings of all of this. I have sent you a Private Message. Also her middle name is Faye.

ipswitch

[Babes]

sounds like this astrological peek is pointing to MH ?

[Esah]

Thesestars,

You have done a remarkable job. I know that most of us don't know astrology very well, but your explanations are clear enough to figure out. Many of your details are identical to ones that I have received intuitively. Which have been given to LE.

I was just about to give up on this site providing any real assistance in finding Tara, but you have restored my hopes!

I sure hope that someone can give you the exact time of her birth, since that will make the details come together even better. Good luck, I wish you success.

Esah

[Esah]

p.s. Just ignore the hecklers, some people won't get it no matter how many times you explain it.

Come on irwinindian, be constructive, not destructive!

This person put a lot of time into this, would it just be so hard to allow them the same space you require for your ideas?

[thesestars]

To Ipswitch

I'm new to this board, I have no idea how to get my private messages, you can email @ thesestars9@yahoo.com or you can call me 719-269-9742

To Esah

Thanks for your support - I actually just put in a couple of hours this morning over some hot coco. I should have been doing housework.

To Irwin

I took a quick peek at Tara's case because I receive an email from someone asking me to do so. When the case was just new I couldn't not find a date of birth for Tara, but a second check after the mentioned email brought me to the GBI site with a DOB.

After becoming punchy drunk last night reading some of the ramblings on thisboard, I was just going to leave it alone. But, her stars just seem to be shouting out at me. I don't have the time to give an astrological lesson in my writings. I was just hoping to perhaps leave a tidbit of info that might serve Tara somehow.

My husband is much like you, my work drives him nuts. But it works most of the time. In defense of my work, using my methods just recently I was able to help police in my town find an old man with alzhiemers, and I also helped a mother locate her daughter in Long Island. Right now police are combing an area in Ohio that I pointed out to them 7 years ago; as Finally, after a conviction this year, the accused has lead police to the area I mapped out in a more complex writing. I could go on and on but I won't.

I got to say however, you very quickly applied some of your own anagrams to make your point. I am impressed as most people wouldn't even apply the time. Anagrams can be serious, funny, awkward, or absolutely senseless. I've learned to depend on them and applying alot of mental latitude. I bet somehow GARDINIAS had a memorable or distinct time in Tara's life.

Now for a quick explaination.

I think it is someone she is romantically involved with because the Sun in her chart rules the Men in her life(as does Mars and it too is in Scorpio). Venus also in Scorpio represents her love life.

All three of them, including Mercury is just compounding the scorpion energy. Scorpio known traits are obsessive and compulsive, as well as, very intense and suspicious. Jealousy runs deep.

If Tara had only her Sun in Scorpio,and the other planets else where perhaps I would consider a stranger, but experience is telling me to look at a VIOLET (mars) MAN (sun) who she LOVED (venus) with some COMMUNICATION (mercury) EMOTIONAL (scorpio) problems.

The Sun/Pluto explaination is this. Pluto is all about control and destruction. It was transiting her progressed Sun, meaning the position of her Sun at this time in her life, which as I already mentioned is the Men in her life. So she was dealing with control issues with a Man in her life. Now I didn't state this in my early writing, but because the Sun/Pluto aspect was happening in the sign of Sagittarius, and traits of Sag is to be free, its my guess that she wanted to be free of the controling man.

Irwin, you are right, my writing should have had more explainations, if it is to be taken seriously.

Thanks for honesty and keeping me from doing more laundry.

:seeya:
Renee (http://www.reneefrancis.com/missingchildren/index.htm)

[concernedperson]

I take your work seriously. I know that impressions or pictures (this is what I get) are not totally accurate.And they are not meant to be...just a tool! If we were all omnipotent then we would be God and we aren't. We take whatever angel wings are given to us and fly with the resolve and expect ridicule. And also expect that some of us know where the heart is...and a lot of us do. Never quit trying because your mind is closed off. If it were my child, I would be in the Beth Twitty mode big time.

If this were my family member or my friend, I would have immediately posted a large thank you to thesestars for spending the amount of time on posting this information. Considering Tara is still not home, who are we to knock another persons hard work spent trying to shed some light on this case? All help should be appreciated, but sadly, unless it is UNDERSTANDABLE by them, some folks feel the need to fly off the handle and accuse us of being loony! Thesestars, I may not be familiar with your work, but I absolutely do not discount it.

It is clear that this person cares about this case. I ignore those shallow minded individuals who have never posted anything more than a mere thought or two, or have never done anything but criticize others. Some people lurk here, never jumping in the conversation until somebody says something they can't get their mind around and then they just gnaw at us like a dog trying to chew off a hurt leg.

Most of us are complete STRANGERS to Tara, but yet we give this case attention and time. Why? Because each of us has a different way of thinking and each of us cares in a unique way. We all bring genuine things to this board and some can appreciate it, while others are so shallow that they miss the point, it's over their heads, or they are so young they cannot even read half of the words. [One- track-close-minded people scare me. They would be dangerous on jury duty, huh?]

Again, thanks to thesestars for the time and effort you put into your impressions regarding this case from the astrological viewpoint. All we can hope for is a shred of something here or there that can be used and applied to this case. I wish others were more open minded to things in which they know not of.

[Atok]

Astrology, like EVP, like Ms. Barton, like Tarot or any other method beyond common senses have their adherents and detractors. I simply respect that a lot of hard work was put into that astrological profile. It requires a lot of time and education to assemble those charts,and to back them up with details, so thank you for your efforts.

We need not post to insult people. As long as posts are being made from the heart of people who really care, just let people give of themselves in the way they know how.

Don't read the sections on extra sensory impressions if they upset you or you think they are drivel. No need to post on them if they aren't your cup of tea.

As for posts that are insulting to Tara herself, I understand. Things that make a mockery out of having the board here at all, I understand.

I truly believe the intent on this topic was help.

CTV allows for a post in open forum to include up to 10,000 characters. I cannot find where 10,000 has been used at this time.

The people with ADD have a hard time staying with the longer posts, I'm sure, but those who are attentive to detail and understand more in depth communication will not lose themselves after the 5th sentence. (There is medication available for those with ADD.)

Some people can appreciate deep thoughts and the sharing of them in the proper forum. If you do not choose to read a particular users posts, perhaps you will be better suited to use the ignore option so as to not further frustrate you when trying to bring your mind up to a certain level of understanding. This way, you will not take up important space here by posting your discontent with a persons thoughts. You can ignore them, and move on.

Thanks IrwinIndian for your viewpoint. We all have them and are equally entitled, including you, no matter how shallow.

[Jboils]

Good post FW!:patriot:

[Suzan]

Just my opinion here, but I cannot for the life of me understand why individual's would put so much time and energy into searching the stars for someone instead of searching on foot. I know that it is a hobby for some, but I have "in person" been around families that at their wits end, consulted a psychic and given hundreds of dollars....only to end up in a crying heap on the floor and feeling like fools after using a psychic to help them recover their loved one. Where I do not doubt that God will use whom he choses to give insight to some special people here on earth. I do not believe that the powers that be, and that is God, or Jesus Christ for the most of us, would believe such hockus pockus and waste valuable time and energy on such people. Yes it is fun for some to have a hobby of searching the stars..... and reading palms, and leaves...and dangling crystals from the ceiling. But, here in the real world, I have witnessed countless families being emotionally tortured after being relieved of hard earned cash that could have gone into real time investigations. Not to mention having their hopes trashed, and looking and feeling like fools after it "does not work". Does it not say in the bible to stay away from such individuals? Why...? Because for the most part it is using powers of darkness to trick and hurt, and lead some astray.
If God wanted to use people he "wouldn't" use a person who gives praises to any other power "but from him" and him alone.
People.....if you really want help to find your loved ones, pay someone in the science field to help you, use facts, and forensics. For those that want to help: Search on foot! Sponsor a cadaver dog, give to your nearest SAR facility, donate goods to the red cross, find a missing persons family and help them by donating funds for flyers, hand out flyers. Please.....I have watched so many psychics make a fortune off of the grieving... only to leave them more hurt then before.....it's truly......too sad. so sad.......

[Esah]

Here goes!

I agree with you 100%, you absolutely don't understand.

I have done a few thousand readings and I am touched by the hand of God in every reading, Or I wouldn't do them at all. Why do people continually separate God from Psychics? Heads up for you, being psychic requires one to use their spirituality. I come from a place of love and compassion and I know that God is my divine director.

It is impossible to show you the other side, the place where all things can be known. You'd box it up and deny it anyway. But God reveals all to anyone who is willing to see. If you think there are only the tangible things in front of you, you are missing out on the real beauty of the Kingdom of God.

Are there people out there ready to take your money for no effort? Absolutely. Are they only psychics and palm readers? Absolutely not. There are crooks around every corner in every profession.

It sounds like you or someone close to you have had a bad experience with a so called psychic. I sympathize with that because preying on people that way is horrible.

Are all Catholic Priests perverts, just because a few got caught? No. There are some wonderful loving Priests, who most likely wept at these supposed men of God. I want to weep too when someone assumes something as rediculous as your post does. I take it personal when a close minded person, full of fear, says the things you say.

If my child were missing, I'd pay the nut who insists on standing on his head to gain his wisdom, if it would help. How can you decide who is helping and who isn't? Maybe a psychic doesn't always see exactly where someone missing is, but maybe they have one piece of the puzzle that no one else could get any other way. Would you want that one piece left out, if it were your child? I think not.

Have a little compassion for those who are different than you. The last time I checked, psychics were human too. Just like you. We All make mistakes. Give it a rest.

Now the question will be for you, whether you got this message or not. My guess is.......not.

[PEK]

But, here in the real world, I have witnessed countless families being emotionally tortured after being relieved of hard earned cash that could have gone into real time investigations. Not to mention having their hopes trashed, and looking and feeling like fools after it "does not work".

I've also witnessed people in real life who've given their last dime to private investigators and they've had the same results. :shrug:

[Atok]

The individual who provided the astrological view was offering information they felt had value. It was not an attempt at extortion. They did not ask for compensation. They didn't beg the family to contact them so they could torture them with false hope either.

If you don't think astrology has merit or value, that's fine, but there is no need to demean their offerings with your ignorance or to insult them or try to insinuate their efforts are of "Of the Dark One."

Get a grip.

There are many ways to help, you listed several things financially you can contribute to if you can't physically come on a search in Georgia. Are you menaing to imply that if you can't be there or you don't have money that your contributions are a waste?

If you believe that, perhaps people should stop praying then. In your world it has no value.

[PEK]

Atok :seeya:

I hope you weren't posting that to me. I found the astrological view rather interesting myself.

[Atok]

No, PEK that was to Susan and other detractors. I should have clarified that in my post.

[PEK]

Just checking. Thanks for clarifying. :)

Originally posted by Atok


Get a grip.

There are many ways to help, you listed several things financially you can contribute to if you can't physically come on a search in Georgia. Are you menaing to imply that if you can't be there or you don't have money that your contributions are a waste?

If you believe that, perhaps people should stop praying then. In your world it has no value.

:patriot:
WELL PUT ATOK!

I think a few others could stand to stick that on a post-it on their monitors!!!!!!

Thanks for saying our care, concern and prayers are not a waste!
:beer:

[thesestars]

Consulting the stars in not a psychic process. Astrology before anything else, is a mathematical science based on the astronomical process. The art is in the interpretation.

Sadly, some read a few books and think they are all knowing, and they give the rest of us professionals a bad rap, but only application and experience bring about a seasoned astrologer.

I consider myself a scientist, because I have examined hundreds and hundreds of birthcharts belonging to missing children, murdered adults, and serial killers; and, I have noted the mathematical patterns, did the mapping, and analyized the outcomes against God's stars. All of my work in assisting families of the missing or murdered has always been at my own expense. I have also spent my own money in the past to search "on foot" for several missing persons because I believe strongly in what i do. The last mother I helped to locate her runaway daughter, was done in two days right from the chair I sit in today. All it cost her was a long distance phone call.

There is no place here on this board to give astrological lessons on my vein of work and give you all the examples and cases in which it worked. What I've done is God's perfect work, cause nobody and nothing comes in between myself and this work. That my devotion and responsibility to the knowledge I've choosen to learn. This work cost me an important relationship once, because he couldn't understand my passion to help, while at another time, I spent most of my savings into renting the proper vehicle, a seven day hotel stay, and 3 meals a day for myself and three other searchers for a week in the Adirondacks searching for a missing twelve year old. New York State spent 10 million dollars searching for the same girl, yet they didn't find her either.

To me, God is the universe, with all his stars giving us the answsers we need to bring a child home; because I've seen them, his stars, over and over again point to a resting place for a missing child when the exact time of disappearance is known. Sorry darlings, but I can ignore that.

It was not my intention to cause tension on this board in posting this uncoventional information. I was just hoping that someone here who does assist in searching might keep my tidbits mindful during the course of their efforts.

Please Forgive us Tara
we all just want you to come home! :rose:

[Elle_Woods]

The keywords here are Ascancant

Did you mean Ascendant? Just curious, I wasn't sure if this was a typo or ...? I know court tv has a short edit time to spot those type of things.

Also, I'm curious why you used 11:50pm on the 22nd instead of the 12:30am/Oct 23 record of her last phone call as far as the crime chart goes? That would alter the ascendant a bit. So, I was wondering what the significance was of the earlier time..

[Suzan]

I knew yesterday when I gave my comment there would be those……that “don’t understand”. By putting my statement on there, I can now see ‘who’ doesn’t understand.
When you make a statement “I am praying, or those are praying” then I get the hint that you believe in a power other than us ‘humans”. If you believe in God, and Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost, then I am assuming you believe in the Bible. Then we are on one accord. And those that have opened the bible, and read on this topic “do understand”.
I am one that has read, and “do understand”. I believe that after you put some energy into this topic (as much energy as you put into the praise of others who are psychics) then you will be giving yourself a chance by educating yourself. And opening your eye’s. After all…..you’re here after is at stake.

Had you read my entire post, and not just pick the parts of it you needed to pick at, you would have read all you needed to know.

If you believe in God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. And you say you are ‘saved’.
Then I would go on to think that what the Bible has to say about this topic would be of importance to you. If you are interested…….read on, if not then that is your choice.

Firstly: The Earth, and Heavens and all that are contained were made by God. They were made for his pleasure and for us. All things were made by him, and him alone.


Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick and powerful and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit and of the joints and marrow. And is a discernment of the heart.<<<<< here is the “Power” you want some of!!!

When we say we have faith, it is because we have asked something of God, in prayer. If “we” have the faith of a mustard seed we would be able to move a large mountain. The power is “his” power. “Not our power, Not the Mountains Power” But, God’s power alone.
John 15:7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you. Ye shall ask what ye will and it shall be done unto you.<<<<<<<< Again, this is the power of prayer, “using the right powers for the right things” Notice if “you” abide in God, and “his” word’s abide in “you”.

Light and Dark cannot dwell in the same place. For some to say it is God’s power and a special gift from God given to me from “my Grandmother” as we in my family have psychic abilities. Then this person is saying, they have power, set apart from God.
God gives “each” and “every-one” of us that are saved, special powers not just “some”. For some to say they have the power of God, and to lay claim in this way is a “lie”.

Deut. 18:10-12 There shall not be found among you any one that useth divination, (fortune telling, ouja boards, automatic writing) Or an observer of the times, (a person who deals with astrology and horoscopes) Or an enchanter, (magician) Or a witch, (one making compacts with evil spirits-thus possessing supernatural powers) Or a charmer, (hypnotist) Or a consulter with familiar spirits, (spiritist medium) Or a wizard, (clairvoyant, psychic, ESP, telepathy) Or a necromancer, (one who supposedly communicates with the dead; voodoo)
FOR ALL that DO THESE THINGS are an ABOMINATION UNTO THE LORD.
If you out there are reading this and thought it was okay, to believe in those things above, then I would like you to know, that: Light and Dark cannot dwell in the same place. You cannot have God, Jesus Christ, nor the Holy Ghost, and claim to have these special powers.
God gives “each of us” the ability to use “his power” through us. When we become saved, we are filled with the Holy Spirit after baptism, there are gift’s that we have our choosing from. Here are a few: Healing, speaking in tongues, Prophesy, discernment (which is to know the intent and honesty in someone’s heart), to name a few.
These are “not” powers given to us. They are God’s powers used through us, based on our faith in him. The powers given to us by God, cannot be “used” with the powers of darkness by the same person. Why not? Well, that would make God a liar and a hypocrite.
Those powers of darkness are from other places, not from God, Jesus Christ or the Holy Ghost. They are tricks to take you away from the true God. You do not have to literally worship devils to be taken away from God, you merely have to be led away from God “to another place”.

The most quoted scripture: (I believe) is: John 14:6 Jesus said: NO MAN cometh to the Father, BUT BY ME.
So, If he tells you plainly the way, and you chose to read, and speak out for those that do the works of darkness, you tell me, Is the real God, in you?
Darkness, and light cannot dwell in the same place.
A man cannot have two masters.
A house divided…..will fall. (The house being you, yourself) You cannot believe in the true God, and preach everlasting hopes of heaven and salvation, and at the same time pray to stars, devils, spirits, rocks and dirt. Or praise and believe those who “say” clearly they are the wicked ones. That is a hypocrite, who says they are saved, but praise the works of darkness. A hypocrite, is a liar.
Satan was allowed to retain tremendous wisdom and power, along with the violence he acquired, and given this earth as a temporary domain to try the souls of men. He is likened to “a roaring lion” that goes about “seeking whom he may devour.” (1Pet.5:8) He truly has the nature of a vicious, heartless animal but he “transforms” himself “into an angel of light.” He is the source of all evil, lawlessness, lies and “lying wonders” and his retinue of demons assist by oppressing and possessing victims who will let them in;
Impersonating the dead to promote reincarnation and spiritualism.
Know this: 2 Cor. 5:6,8 Knowing that whilst we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord: We are confident that to be absent from the body, is to be present with the Lord.

Eph. 6:10-18 be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against wickedness in high places. Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit. (See “Holy Spirit”).

He imitates all the gifts of the Holy Spirit; gives advice, reveals mysteries (such as names, numbers, where to find lost articles, etc.) Gives supernatural faith (to walk barefooted over hot coals, to be transported from one place to another); gives power to perform miracles (such as dematerializing articles, bending metal, etc.; predict the future,) etc.

Astrology is condemned in the Bible as “abomination” (Deut.18) It is a pagan practice which encourages people to consult the powers of darkness instead of God. It is fatalistic, tending to paralyze initiative and right judgment and excuses man from his responsibility before God.
“In all your ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct your paths. Delight yourself also in the Lord, and He shall give you the desires of your heart. The steps of a righteous man are ordered of the Lord, and he delights in his way”
The works of the devil DESTROY PEACE and HAPPINESS, and plant seeds of Discord and Fear.

About me:

I believe: Isa. 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me because the Lord hath anointed me to…..Comfort all that mourn.

I am a Female Private Detective. I specialize in Missing Persons; I am licensed and Insured. I do not take advantage of people by giving them false hope, nor do I charge any fees. When I said that: Psychics leave people in a crying heap, I meant it, as I have experienced it…..witnessed it…..up close in person, it is a tragedy….on-top of the tragedy of missing a loved one. When a person is missing a loved one, they are very vulnerable, hurting in the deepest parts of their being. To lie to them, use them to exploit them give them false hope and take their money….is the most cruel thing one human can do to another.


If a person is truly of God, and filled with the Holy Spirit, they need only pray and believe. They will not take on the face of wanting personal admiration and money to consult spirits. The Holy Ghost is a spirit, and if a person is rightly saved, then that “saved” person has the use of the Lord Jesus Christ “right in side of them” to do “good works” with the gifts given, as we “are” filled with the Holy Spirit, we are given the power of the almighty through prayer and belief. The only way to get this Holy Spirit is to read the bible, (get saved) and know what evil looks like, if you don’t know that psychics are of the underworld and take on their beliefs….and you claim to be of the True God, then the Holy Ghost will leave you. You cannot have both darkness and light in the same place.

It is your “choice” of free will……choose your God. I would hope you would do your homework before….chosing.

I did not write any of this to hurt anyone, I felt that I needed to explain further…as some of you were upset. You can use your bible and look up the things I have written here, and see if they are scriptually accurate.
It’s sad enough that while we are here, people are missing in the flesh…..right out from in front of our eyes!. Rest assured “we will see them again”. Through God the father , Jesus Christ. (for those who are saved).
But, to lose one’s soul…everlasting, that is the true tragedy.
A true “missing Person” that will last an eternity.

[Suzan]

thesestars:

God Bless you for putting the time in to do your charts. I would like you to meet the one "who made the stars" that interest you so.

I believe: He is the only one that can give you the power to help others, where you won't lose your own soul...doing so.

He gave you the stars to guide your earlthly eye's in what physical direction your earthly foot shall walk.

They are there to look at....and be amazed by, I myself....think the Heavens are beautiful. I also know that..perhaps that is where Heaven is, and the creator of us all.

He "does not" use the stars to spiritually guide you.....he uses his "words" and the Holy Ghost. He acts on faith, by "you" believing in him and his son Jesus Christ' "not" in his handy work.

God Bless you! Suzan

[thesestars]

I've found three, one child, one old man, and one runaway...and many more are found by traditional methods, some are discovered because they are happened upon.

I never said I had all the answers, just some insight.

[InOcillaGA]

I'm sorry Suzan but thesestars was posting (her or his) Astrological Peek on Tara, not their debate on religion. God gives everybody different talents and we need to use them all to find Tara.

[Atok]

Suzan,

This is not the place for a biblical flame war. I appreciate your faith and understand why you have your perspective even if you think I am among those "that do not understand."

Do not assume that because I am not making a rebuttal to your biblical diatribe that I can't. I could counterpoint argue with you using the same Holy Book you value and this board would go on a tangent that is unnecessary.

Can we please focus on the details of the case, any information we find valuable and use our talents productively not destructively? This is not a conversion center, it is a board of people concerned with the missing.

[Suzan]

Originally posted by InOcillaGA
I'm sorry Suzan but thesestars was posting (her or his) Astrological Peek on Tara, not their debate on religion. God gives everybody different talents and we need to use them all to find Tara.


The talent that some express to have is not from God the father,, or Jesus Christ & the Holy Ghost.
That was my point exactly. These powers they speak of are, from another place...IMO

Thank you for pointing that out so clearly!

Atok: this thread is called...An Astrological Peek.

So......I Peeked........and this is what "I" saw.
It's only my opinion based on scripture.
She was able to voice her opinion, and so I told you mine.
If my words cause you concern personally....then maybe "someone" is pricking your spirit and trying to tell you something?
Just a thought.... as the words I posted are "directly" out of the bible. And remembering that.... Heb 4:12 God's word is quick and powerful and sharper then any two edged sword, peircing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit and of the joints and marrow. And is a descernment of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

God is trying to bless you.... through a message board, what an awesome God that is.

Alright then...I won't type anymore, I have said my peace. I will just read.....and not comment. Carry on!

Suzan

[Saunterer]

what is thesestars' (Renee's) "message" (insight) and how will it help find Tara?

Tara's disappearance was directly related to someone she knew and with whom she had been intimate, whether at the time of her disappearance or in the past (someone she was romantically involved with) ... very good looking, dark hair (with a wave), dark eyes, well built (on the stocky side) ... in a career involving some form of public recognition (a high-level care giver and/or protector, or (more likely) a law enforcement authority. Tara was dealing with control issues with a man in her life, and likely wanted to be free of the controlling man.

Tara is deceased. Her killer is a man who was obsessed with her and angry because he lost control over her. On an impulse he decided to try to persuade Tara to his way of thinking ... he wanted to be done with this relationship and was making an attempt to sway her one last time. The perpetrator is someone who is obsessive and compulsive, very intense and suspicious (jealousy runs deep) ... a viole(n)t man who Tara loved ... a man with some communication/emotional problems. Anagrams - DANGER STARTed In the Am; A TRIST, romantic affair, A DANGER; STAGED TARRAIN (ph.), someone STAGED an AREA around her house, car, belongings; ARIES, perhaps a perp born between March 21and April 20.

Other than the anagrams, haven’t we heard/seen all (or most) of this conjecture before, including a man or men in Tara's life who would fit this description? Is there anything new here? Can astrological interpretations (like psychic impressions) be skewed toward a particular (previously presented) theory?

Tara is between 8 and 20 miles from her home ... water, and a bridge or railway ... perhaps water moving under a bridge or railway ... a high indication of movement for Tara heading out towards the west (Mystic Highway 32), towards the railroad between 319 and Frank Road; or south-by-east, right below Douglas Hwy 32; or south-by-east of her home, near 129. Anagram - DRAINAGE START, a starting place for drainage.

In time, this crime will be solved ... perhaps near September of this year. The evidence that is needed is property (such as land or vehicles) and work clothes or a uniform used for working in certain conditions.

And Tara, I should think! Taken as the radii of circles (8 and 20 miles), the possible search area is more than a thousand square miles (hope Elizabeth Portier corrects me if I'm wrong)! Limiting the search area to the west quadrant and southeast sector might reduce it to 400 or 500 square miles. But I would guess there are still many bridges, railroads and/or headwaters of drainageways within the areas. Seems like a lot more searchers are going to be needed if this mystery is going to be resolved this year ... unless the "clues" get more specific, or someone gets lucky. This is all new "insight", but (assuming it is all correct) is there anything particularly helpful here? JMOO

[thesestars]

Saunterer (I like your screen name)

Your keeping me on my toes, thanks. Your right my insight is not anything real helpful here. The board has hightlighted many suspects, but in any missing person case, the chances are fifty fity that they know or do not know their abductor or killer. I just wanted to relate that her stars show someone she knows and not a stranger. So I was really just confirming some suspicions. Didn't give anything new here.

As far as locations, What I meant is, and gained from experience from other cases, is that Tara won't be found less than 8 miles from her home, or more than 20 miles. Yes that is lots of ground to cover in three separate directions.

I have worked up a map of the area with vectors lines drawn in compass bearings that are contingient upon planetary measurements and positions in the disappearance chart. I plan to post the map on a blog and will provide the link when complete.

Someone just recently sent me a private message asking me why I erected my disappearance chart for 10/22, when Tara made a phone call on 10/23 at around 12:30. I never read that any where nor did any of the sites I found relay this information. But if in fact it is a truth, than that time could and should be the new disappearance chart. I still waiting to hear from that writer on the soundness of this phone call.

These methods I use only work to elminate the 360 degrees of locations possiblilies and only works exactly when an exact time of disappearance is known. As far as the bridges and drainage, one has to know the area well to discern the probabilities and these ideas come from the temperature of her chart. There is an allowable orb on either side of the vector lines.

Sadly, When all is said and done, finding remains is still like looking for a needle in a haystack. Based on the enegies present for Tara on 10/22 and 10/23 this to me was an impluse crime, nothing planned, but came about from a heated argument. Where ever Tara lies, her killer knows this area very well and felt safe bringing her there. The inability to display a map here showing gravitional pull and measurements into the areas I speak of is very hard for anyone to wrap their mind around.

Thanks for writing Saunter.

Renee

[Saunterer]

Cyber-sauntering has its own rewards, but sauntering out-of-doors is still much preferable and, in my case, diligently pursued. Original post by "thesestars" (in italics):

... in any missing person case, the chances are fifty fity that they know or do not know their abductor or killer. I just wanted to relate that her stars show someone she knows and not a stranger. So I was really just confirming some suspicions. Didn't give anything new here.

I don't have a link or data, but I believe I've heard that the statistical probability that an abductor is someone known to the victim is actually higher than 50%.

As far as locations, What I meant is, and gained from experience from other cases, is that Tara won't be found less than 8 miles from her home, or more than 20 miles...

Again I don't have the link or data, but it seems to me I have heard that (statistically) murder victims are found within 15 miles of their home, on average.

Sadly, When all is said and done, finding remains is still like looking for a needle in a haystack.

Amen to that Renee!

This is not an exercise in poo-poo-ing astrology or you, Renee. I'm just trying understand. And like everyone else, I'm trying to help Tara and her loved ones.

[thesestars]

I believe to date the best study conducted on child homicides was by The State of Washington's Attorney General in conjunction with the US Department of Justice. It covered 600 cases from 44 states of missing children found murdered. The following is an excerpt from an argumentive essay I wrote for a college class a couple of years ago that hightlight the statistics in known and unknown abductors.


"The other finding in the SWAG’s study was that, “in 53% of the cases, the children and their abductor were strangers” (1). It can be figured from the balance of the 53% of children who were abducted by strangers, that the other 47% of the children in this study knew their abductors. It can then be furthered assumed from the figures presented that the chances of a newly abducted child, knowing or not knowing their abductor, is almost equal. With this in mind, it leads to the assumption that law enforcement could certainly use a means that will help them immediately direct their focus on a known or unknown abductor—especially when time is of the essence. "

The SWAG's study also reported that the child is usually found only 3 miles from home.

In Tara's case, we are speaking of an adult, so the statistics may certainly be different in cases of missing/murdered adults.

My essay argued that if the same data collected by SWAG, in reference to known and unknown abductors, was cross matched against the sun signs of the children perhaps a corrolation existed hence offering law enforcement another avenue of ascertaining if a childs abductor is known or unknown to them.

I got an A on the essay and an offer to use the essage to obtain a grant to conduct the study. But I didn't get the grant. So I'm doing it myself case by case as they occur and get solved.

To date, it appears that those born under the Sun Sign of Sagittarius, Aquarius, and Pisces are more prone to seial killings, while Aries, Scorpio, Libra, Capricorn and Leo are more to killings involving a love one, while still year Gemin and Cancer and Virgo find their killers in the work place or as their neighbors. But this is just some 55 cases to date.

Thanks for responding

Renee

[concernedperson]

thesestars,

Have you looked at the "coordinates thread" that was started about the triangle area? Does it play into anything else you have discovered? Thanks in advance.

[Esah]

I was wondering if you could see if there are any positions indicating a more narrow parameter of the area Tara is in. I know that you posted that she is within 8-20 miles of her home, but I would like to know if a direction (N,S,E, or W) is possible. It would help considerably.

Thank you.

[thesestars]

I have worked up a map and posted it at my blog, however I wanted to revamp the writing and also explain the map.

It seems like there is not enough time in the day to work up cases (just got two new ones at the request of family members ) and I'll still need to keep up with my restaurant.

The blog is really not ready for viewing as yet, but it you must take a peek this is the link

http://missingchildrenblog.blogspot.com

Remember it is still in a work in progress. The map will highlight x's at 8 and 20 miles with vectors lines drawn at bearings that are consistant with the time of her disappearance.

The plan, when revamping was to, name same streets where these x's fall. Also keep in mind about drainage and bridges in the areas of these vector lines.

Thanks

This map can be mailed to a search group

[Rick Karon]

Nobody called you back? Incredible. Why would LE put just a answering machine on a tipline in a case as big as this?

[thesestars]

Wow....let's all keep our fingers crossed that it is something significant, if not Tara perhaps anohter missing person. Bravo to you gals on foot.

The map I posted on the blog is little, I will be glad to throw the real deal in the mail to you gals if this finds turns out to be nothing and you forge ahead with your searching.

Just say the word and provide me with an address. Crossing my fingers, and holding my breath, and thanking all you gals for believing in my work enough to apply it on behalf of Tara.

I remain, encouraged.

Map posted @ http://missingchildren.blogspot.com

[concernedperson]

Originally posted by thesestars
Wow....let's all keep our fingers crossed that it is something significant, if not Tara perhaps anohter missing person. Bravo to you gals on foot.

The map I posted on the blog is little, I will be glad to throw the real deal in the mail to you gals if this finds turns out to be nothing and you forge ahead with your searching.

Just say the word and provide me with an address. Crossing my fingers, and holding my breath, and thanking all you gals for believing in my work enough to apply it on behalf of Tara.

I remain, encouraged.

Map posted @ http://missingchildren.blogspot.com

Yes, with all my heart yes. Thank you and all the searchers. It gives me resolve and makes me happy that the search goes on. Earlier today I felt no one cared. I am crying tears of happiness now.

[mooloo]

What store were in you in?


Originally posted by Chalandrapi
I'm not sure Rick, but I got the impression the tip line was put out by the Tara Command Center which we could not locate that either. We did ask a store clerk about the command center and was told that the original one has moved to an undisclosed location.

I wondered if the command center was moved due to all of the media doing stories on Tara, and perhaps they didn't want people in the way. I just have no idea why.

[Saunterer]

An astrological peek by "thesestars" (Renee) on this thread 2/19/06; and the visions of a psychic medium, "Jen", on blog.myspace.com 11/29/05:

Renee: someone she knew and with whom she had been intimate, whether at the time of her disappearance or in the past (someone she was romantically involved with); very good looking, dark hair (with a wave), dark eyes, well built (on the stocky side); in a career involving some form of public recognition - a high-level care giver and/or protector, or (more likely) a law enforcement authority. Tara was dealing with control issues with a man in her life, and likely wanted to be free of the controlling man.

Jen: a man with dark hair, dark eyes, very tan; a little older than her; a boyfriend or something, but I sense they aren’t together; he looks like the all-American boy; hair seemed fairly clean-cut, but maybe a little on the longer side, with a bit of a “flip” or curl/wave to it ... definitely not curly, but curls/flips up just a little bit on the ends.

Renee: Tara is deceased. Her killer is a man who was obsessed with her and angry because he lost control over her. On an impulse he decided to try to persuade Tara to his way of thinking ... he wanted to be done with this relationship and was making an attempt to sway her one last time. The perpetrator is someone who is obsessive and compulsive, very intense and suspicious (jealousy runs deep), a violent man who Tara loved.

Jen: I’m very confident she’s passed away. I think he was frustrated with her when he came to pick her up, but I don’t think he was really, really angry. I definitely don’t feel like this was premeditated. They started driving, and she insists that he pull over instead of fighting in the car. He eventually does. There is dirt/gravel beneath their feet. She’s yelling at him. She’s so frustrated with him. He gets into her face, yelling at her. He starts pushing her around. They scuffle a little, and she falls off this drop-off. I think if LE asks him, he will confidently say he didn’t have anything to do with it because he firmly believes it was an accident and all her fault.

Renee: Tara is between 8 and 20 miles from her home ... water, and a bridge or railway ... perhaps water moving under a bridge or railway ... a high indication of movement for Tara heading out towards the west (Mystic Highway 32), towards the railroad between 319 and Frank Road; or south-by-east, right below Douglas Hwy 32; or south-by-east of her home, near 129. Anagram - DRAINAGE START, a starting place for drainage.

Jen: I think she fell at the end of a bridge, before the actual bridge starts, but there is still a really steep ditch on the one side. There is definitely water nearby, definitely near a bridge. I’m drawn to the northeast, outside of town a ways. I sense she said something about mockingbirds and I notice there is a Mockingbird Road, with a little river not too far from it. I pictured Frank Road, headed out of town, across a little bridge and then left onto another road.

[One2Snoop]

Bump :rose: