dogs and psychics

[volunteer]

I wanted to start a discussion about the dogs involved in this investigation. When I went to Tara's home, they told me that even bloodhounds could get absolutely NO SCENT in her yard of her. Even if people had been in, bloodhounds can pick up a scent after the scene is disturbed.

I also took my dog with me to search. He is not trained to scent find. He is trained to dig where I point and to search through pipes, piles of brush, sniff under houses, etc. He alerts me if there is anything unusual or that bothers him. We went all over that neighborhood and he never even flinched.

There were dogs there from all over--scent dogs, cadaver dogs, SAR dogs. Highly trained and they found NOTHING.

Isn't this all bizarre?

Also, I have been talking to several people who are either psychic or at least very sensitive....they tell me that they have tried to contact Tara and they get NOTHING. No vision, no sound, no pictures, no anything. There is just a big void.....either she passed on quickly and peacefully and crossed over totally....OR she is not herself, maybe mentally snapped.

Comments?

[Atok]

Originally posted by volunteer


Also, I have been talking to several people who are either psychic or at least very sensitive....they tell me that they have tried to contact Tara and they get NOTHING. No vision, no sound, no pictures, no anything. There is just a big void.....either she passed on quickly and peacefully and crossed over totally....OR she is not herself, maybe mentally snapped.

Comments?

I know this topic is a bit touchy, I don't generally "out" myself as being the sensitive type. I will admit, then when it comes to Tara, I get nothing but SILENCE. Unlike many other cold read sensations, there is nothing to pick up on here and I have always found that disturbing.

What first interested me in cases like these were the "impressions" I formed while wading through the details. First curiosity to see if they were correct, then creepiness when things seemed to fall in place. Science teaches me that this is educated guess work.

I also experience feelings, images/colors/temperature changes, what I call "impressions". Still no psychic has solved a darn thing yet. But I trust my feelings on things, strange little nudges that when I listen really turn out to have mattered. I like to believe I can sense things when I deeply focus and calm my mind.

I tried with Tara and it is only a void.

[concernedperson]

I am a little sensitive as well and fairly intuitive when it comes to people. With that being said I like facts and weave them into my impressions.

The other day I was asking if anyone knew a David related to this case. fsiii said yes and wanted to know why before I was told anything.

Well this is what happened. Someone contacted me about this case because they knew I was following it closely. They wanted me to verify some facts. This person was involved in a group that have some psychics and some use EVP. Like the gal Belanger who was involved in the Laci Peterson case. I know a little about it but I can never understand anything on the electonic voice recordings.

They sent me several postings of EVP and other psychic impressions. I figured the regular psychics weren't really on it and had read a lot a crime library but that is JMO.

However, the EVP one had a lot of info that goes along with the most prevalent theory that we have, this one person seemed to know or hear the name Marcus Did It, Rape, Hotel Room, Soldier, Local Black Man Who Saw Or See. Sounds kind of disjointed but it is only partial words or impressions. I could come up with a scenario with these things but the one I couldn't was someone named David. In their impressions Tara has connected with David
psychically. I was going to let them know who David was in hopes of another EVP reading but I don't know who this is.

[volunteer]

I too have a hard time hearing what people claim is said in the typical EVP. I think they do exist however. And some are very clear.

Did they send you transcripts or actual recordings? Have you actually heard them and can we get to the links?

And to ATOK: thanks for the reply. Tara just doesn't seem to want to make any kind of contact.

[concernedperson]

Originally posted by volunteer
I too have a hard time hearing what people claim is said in the typical EVP. I think they do exist however. And some are very clear.

Did they send you transcripts or actual recordings? Have you actually heard them and can we get to the links?

And to ATOK: thanks for the reply. Tara just doesn't seem to want to make any kind of contact.

Here is the link to the EVP recordings. I couldn't understand them but my friend translated for me ( I am hard of hearing) They said to use headphones for better sound.

http://home.columbus.rr.com/lsweb/

[volunteer]

Ok, I truly believe in spirits and things like that, but I hear nothing on those Evp recordings except garbled sounds. I think you have to have a pretty good imagination to make "David, this is Tara" out of that noise. Anyone hear anything?

For the first time, I will make this short (LOL):

I went to Tara's area for the same reason some of you did and I observed things PHYSICALLY, with my senses. But I told another person with me the same exact things you are saying here. This person will read this and know who they are.

I felt empty of emotion, other than happiness to have a clearer vision about the layout of the area.

I am a very intuitive person, also, and very detail oriented, as some of you know by my posts. I really felt a solemn, calm while in the area.

I felt no immediate danger, no sweaty palms, no hair standing on end, no urgency to cough or run or stop. Nothing regarding Tara and what may have happened.

Perhaps we are in the wrong town, the wrong area.

I do get the general feeling that another FEMALE is involved in the disappearance of Tara. I too, sense a military connection, but in the way of older person, bitter, maybe a dishonorable discharge many years ago, or a medical discharge?
I cannot figure that one out, but if anybody can offer some validity to my feelings, great.

Does this mean anything to anyone?
note to child, bipolar, raped by relative, pregnancy hidden, fear of discovery, street drugs (not doctor's rx) hair falling out, scar on knee, mole under armpit, ice?

The numbers 14 and 17 stand out. I cannot explain, so if there is relevance, maybe somebody can point this out.

I do not hear anything on the EVP: kill me__
I DO hear what could be interpreted as David this is Tara.

I do hear that one. Can anything be extracted further from the top one?

[georgiagirl1]

maybe tara was molested or raped by a family member?

[Mindis]

That's just plain freaky.. I don't know what to think.. Was this session done with Tara's family?!?

Who are these people concernedperson?!? There are fakes out there.. don't be quick to fall for this.. it could be a hoax..

I don't know.. I'm holding onto the hope she is alive.. :(

I think I'm going to call it a night.. this is upsetting.. sorry, nothing against anything posted.. I know were all searching for answers.. I'm just not ready to believe she may be gone..

Prayers for Tara.. :rose:

[Bamasleuth]

I'd like to know more about this phenonmena, and if there is any scientific proof that it is real. I'm not sure what to think. I could not hear anything on the first one, and the second one could have said something.
With all that being said - Dr. Gattis' middle name is David. Could this be the " David" you are looking for?

[concernedperson]

To answer the above posts...I do not know enough to give an intelligent answer on EVP. The person that contacted me is a victim's advocate that works extremely hard trying to get info on the missing. Not just Tara and not just recent missing...from years ago. So, that tells me she/he is very dedicated to helping. The person mentioned to me that it wasn't the right time to get the family involved as they were trying to discern any fact that could be in the readings.

As people have posted before, psychic tendencies or the paranormal is a subjective field. Bits and pieces but does not replace full investigative procedures. A piece to the puzzle if you will. I know Orlando police have asked for psychic help to try and find Jennifer Kesse (in newspaper article). I want to do anything we can to find Tara and if it is looking at oddities, then we have to try.

[Bamasleuth]

I'm sure Tara's family would agree - leave no stone unturned. I know they just want some answers. I know psychics have helped in some cases. Maybe this could be one.

If anyone has any good information, or a legitimate site on EVP, I would appreciate a link. I'd like to learn more about it.

I wonder why no one can get a "feel" for Tara? Is that common among people who are sensitive to that sort of thing?

[Atok]

It's not "normal" for sensitive people to get no impressions whatsoever, though it can happen. However, early on in the case, there was some psychic impressions received by others and they were discussed on another board. They involved the stop sign on the corner, Dolly looking wistfully, a mention of Forsyth, but I can't find that post anymore.

Today, however those same individuals have no impression to reveal. I still want to hammer out facts, so I will continue posting on the other segments until something "intuitive" occurs.

[SageRatched :-)]

Originally posted by Bamasleuth
I'm sure Tara's family would agree - leave no stone unturned. I know they just want some answers. I know psychics have helped in some cases. Maybe this could be one.

If anyone has any good information, or a legitimate site on EVP, I would appreciate a link. I'd like to learn more about it.

I wonder why no one can get a "feel" for Tara? Is that common among people who are sensitive to that sort of thing?

Here is a short history of ITC/EVP. I am also a EVP researcher and friend of Sandra Belanger, who used EVP on the Laci Peterson case.

http://www.mikepettigrew.com/afterlife/html/evp___itc_history.html

If interested I can email you links on Sandra's work with the Peterson case, some of her work is still posted online. Just email me sage_fh2@yahoo.com

ETA: you can also goggle "World ITC" and "AAEVP". Both sites are reputable. There is going to be a EVP convention in Atlanta in June. I would love to go. I live in Bamaland too however it going to be too expensive for my budget.

[volunteer]

Glad to hear the comments about the psychics. At this point, i would welcome ANY clue. I am leary of EVPS but i have heard some very haunting ones. If you watch TAPS, the Ghost Hunters, you know they try to debunk things and find reasons for them other than spirits. One night they had an EVP on a tape recorder that gave them and me chills. In a house where a lady often heard children running and playing, a little voice whispered into the recorder "they don't want us here". The lady just sobbed when she heard that and said the children could stay as long as they wanted. So I do know that spirits try to communicate. Why Tara is reluctant or unable is bothering me. If Dr. Gettis name is David, that is truly, truly, truly scary.

What about the dogs? Why could not one of those expertly trained trackers find anything? Makes no sense at all because at least there should have been some scent in the yard just from normal coming and going, don't you think? And Tara had to get out of the house somehow. And she had been all over town that day. :shrug:

[concernedperson]

Volunteer, the only thing I can say about the dogs is that it was Tara's home and her community and like you said she had been all over town. If the dogs didn't pick up anything in the home I would find that odd. Her scent had to be there unless there is some phenomena with certain people's scent in relation to dogs ability to discern. Another subject I have heard different opinions on. In Laci's case one dog picked up and the other dog didn't.

If they were using scent dogs this could be a possible explanation. With cadaver dogs it takes several hours for them to be able to help....I think I heard Dr. Kobilinsky say 24-48 hours before decomposition occurs (in relation to the Entwistle case).

[Bamasleuth]

If you look on the thread about Dr. Gattis and his troubles with prescription drugs, it states that his name is Larry David Gattisin those reports. It certainly caught my attention when I saw the question about who was " David", and I thought i remembered seeing it somewhere on that thread. I went back and checked, and it is his middle name. (I am trying to learn how to post links, so everyone please be patient!)

Thanks, everyone , for the posts about EVP. I will have some reading to do this weekend. It is a fascinating subject.

[SageRatched :-)]

Originally posted by volunteer
Glad to hear the comments about the psychics. At this point, i would welcome ANY clue. I am leary of EVPS but i have heard some very haunting ones. If you watch TAPS, the Ghost Hunters, you know they try to debunk things and find reasons for them other than spirits. One night they had an EVP on a tape recorder that gave them and me chills. In a house where a lady often heard children running and playing, a little voice whispered into the recorder "they don't want us here". The lady just sobbed when she heard that and said the children could stay as long as they wanted. So I do know that spirits try to communicate. Why Tara is reluctant or unable is bothering me. If Dr. Gettis name is David, that is truly, truly, truly scary.

What about the dogs? Why could not one of those expertly trained trackers find anything? Makes no sense at all because at least there should have been some scent in the yard just from normal coming and going, don't you think? And Tara had to get out of the house somehow. And she had been all over town that day. :shrug:

It depends on which psychic you talk too. Sandra hates the term "psychic" she doesn't consider herself one. I am the first to admit she is extremely intuitive and gifted in that realm! Just because what one hears or knows something and isnt posted on a messageboard doesn't mean contact hasn't been made with Tara. Some things are kept private and confidential and yes have been forwarded to appropriate authorities, it is just up to them to follow up on it, or disreguard it.

IMO the movie "White Noise" was a hollywood fictional theme concerning EVP, while it does have it's element of danger, Ive never known a EVP researcher to turn up dead in all my years of researching. It does also have a grain of truth to it. Contact can and has been made by use of EVP. It isnt anything to play around with, and as with anything you do need prayers of protection, when dealing with it.

My theory on the dogs is Tara left in a car, and the dogs lost the scent, now wheter or not she drove herself to another location, or was abducted, remains to be seen.

Skeptics will always be around I simply suggest researching it for yourself and drawing your own conclusions before debunking any theory. Thomas edsion was working on ITC (Intra Trans Communication / EVP "Electronic Voice Phenomena") at the time of his death. He didn't get to complete his research, before he passed over. I just wonder if he had if it would be more accepted today than what it is. Im sure he got alot of harrassment when he came up with all his other wild and crazy inventions like the light bulb. Who would have known.

[splitrockspirit]

Here is a very good sight that will explain what evp's are,, how they are used,, and how they transmit. Although no one knows the exact reason why they do,,,, some experiments have been made. http://www.cjevpresearch.org/

Another good sight to look at for explanations, although you need to search the site to find it is,,,http://www.coasttocoastam.com/
hosted by George Noory now, use to be Art Bell out of Reno Nevada.

[Bamasleuth]

Thanks everyone! Those links were great. I appreciate the responses to my questions. I am going to look into this subject further because I really find this to be so interesting. And who knows - maybe it will help find Tara.

Bama

[shelock]

No scent? Did Tara feed her pets and the pooch she cared for inside the house? I guess someone else put the Halloween decorations out?

I wanted to start a discussion about the dogs involved in this investigation. When I went to Tara's home, they told me that even bloodhounds could get absolutely NO SCENT in her yard of her. Even if people had been in, bloodhounds can pick up a scent after the scene is disturbed.
I also took my dog with me to search. He is not trained to scent find. He is trained to dig where I point and to search through pipes, piles of brush, sniff under houses, etc. He alerts me if there is anything unusual or that bothers him. We went all over that neighborhood and he never even flinched.

There were dogs there from all over--scent dogs, cadaver dogs, SAR dogs. Highly trained and they found NOTHING.

Isn't this all bizarre?

Also, I have been talking to several people who are either psychic or at least very sensitive....they tell me that they have tried to contact Tara and they get NOTHING. No vision, no sound, no pictures, no anything. There is just a big void.....either she passed on quickly and peacefully and crossed over totally....OR she is not herself, maybe mentally snapped.

Comments?

[Esah]

Shelock, I'm glad you posted to this thread. I had forgotten about it. I was wondering if there is some sort of spray that will confuse the best sniffers. Like something simple, such as Lysol, or anything at all that would be so strong to a sensitive dog's nose, that it wouldn't get a hit. Something that LE knows about that maybe someone else does too.

I find it almost unbelieveable that not one dog got anything. And what about the day before Tara disappeared and the day before that, wouldn't her scent be there at some point and how long does it last.

This case boggles my mind.

As far as the psychic info goes, well I think someone sprayed something to confuse me too!! I have gotten clear info one time and totally crazy info the next. IMO I think all of this is due to the fact that Tara is very confused (convinced of a different reality than the rest of the world knows, either by herself or someone else) and not sure what to do. JMO of course.

If we could just turn back the hands of time and give Tara a do-over of that day. I wonder what she would do differently.

Would it be to avoid that one last phone call to someone she angered?

Was there someone at the pageant she would have noticed was watching her so she rearrranged her drive home, to stop them from following her?

Was her front door unlocked when she got home, and she didn't go in this time?

When Dolly barked, did she not ignore it this time?

When that knock came at her door, late that night, did she not so trustingly open it?

What possibly could have been done differently to stop this nightmare from happening?

[Brainstorm]

wishing we could go back is only a NICE THOUGHT
JMHO

[Esah]

When I think of Tara's life on October 22nd, 2005, it was a day filled with many of her favorite things. She was immersed in activites that involved helping friends look their best for a pageant. Then went to the pageant. Then she went by a friends house for a bbq and seemed to be having a good time there as well. In fact, her entired day was normal for Tara.

Until she got the call about MH at the White Horse Saloon. I think that from that point forward, the rug was pulled out from under her feet. She made a call to MH (reportedly) and to HD (reportedly) and excused herself from the bbq with the excuse of being tired. I bet she hardly got to her car before she burst into tears. (I wonder if anyone checked her trash cans for an unusually large amount of makeup stained, tear stained tissues)

I dont' know where I'm going with this, other than to point out that her day didn't appear to be set up in a way that she was consciously leaving. It just seemed like a day in the life of Tara Grinstead.

Until she apparently got home and changed clothes. Put the phone on the charger and then...............

Who can fill in these gaps? Obviously God can, but there is at least one other person who can too.

The dogs would have picked up her scent if she walked away from her home. And since her car was in the carport, then she left in someone elses vehicle or her's was returned. (I also wonder if her driveway was thoroughly checked for any oil residue or otherwise from a different vehicle than Tara's) I know her driveway is not concrete but the usual track in her driveway was there, and it wasn't a long driveway. If someone had an engine leak of some kind, it would be at least one thing to go on.

Oh well, just thinking out loud I guess.

You all have a nice day.

[IrwinIndian]

Where do you get this information from?


Until she got the call about MH at the White Horse Saloon. I think that from that point forward, the rug was pulled out from under her feet. She made a call to MH (reportedly) and to HD (reportedly) and excused herself from the bbq with the excuse of being tired. I bet she hardly got to her car before she burst into tears. (I wonder if anyone checked her trash cans for an unusually large amount of makeup stained, tear stained tissues)

[Esah]

Ok, I'm gonna have to do some digging, but I'm pretty sure that it was MHu that was at the White Horse, and called her from there. I stand to be corrected.

[readmylips]

Ok, I'm gonna have to do some digging, but I'm pretty sure that it was MHu that was at the White Horse, and called her from there. I stand to be corrected.

no. it was not mhu. mhu is the friend from hawkinsville. it was the pageant girl who went to the whitehorse but talked to tara before she went there. she did not call tara from the whitehorse if i recall correctly.

[Lindsey]

Ok, I'm gonna have to do some digging, but I'm pretty sure that it was MHu that was at the White Horse, and called her from there. I stand to be corrected.

You're gonna need a backhoe cause you'll have to dig real deep to find that.

(It didn't happen.)

[PNut]

You're gonna need a backhoe cause you'll have to dig real deep to find that.

(It didn't happen.)

Linds- the call didn't happen, or it didn't come from MHu?

[Brainstorm]

You're gonna need a backhoe cause you'll have to dig real deep to find that.

(It didn't happen.)

LOL--------strange how some of these POIs are being "excavated" but we can't get simple answers about HD,LG & AG , right?
JMHO

[Lindsey]

Linds- the call didn't happen, or it didn't come from MHu?

See RML's post above. :)

[readmylips]

Linds- the call didn't happen, or it didn't come from MHu?

i am going to jump in even though you didn't ask me.

the answer to the question is both. the call came from a pageant participant not mhu and according to the girl she called before she got to the whitehorse. she did go to the whitehorse but she called before she went.

[fsbiii]

IIRC, old posts on another site indicate that M. E. called Tara on her way to the bar that night. I don't recall anything about Tara calling M.H. (Harper or Hulett?) from the BBQ, but I am about fried when it comes to sorting out details after so long.

[Esah]

Thanks to those who actually know the right names and details. Not my forte', obviously.

How did ME know that MH was at the White Horse then? She was the one that told Tara he was there with the 18 year old, right? Or am I having a halucination about all of this?

[Lindsey]

Thanks to those who actually know the right names and details. Not my forte', obviously.

How did ME know that MH was at the White Horse then? She was the one that told Tara he was there with the 18 year old, right? Or am I having a halucination about all of this?

Esah, I don't know where you're getting this different info than we've been discussing for 15+ months. AFAIK, ME did not tell Tara anything about MH, or an 18 year old, or anything except pageant/parade related talk. I hope you feel better soon.

IMO

[minga]

Esah, I don't know where you're getting this different info than we've been discussing for 15+ months. AFAIK, ME did not tell Tara anything about MH, or an 18 year old, or anything except pageant/parade related talk. I hope you feel better soon.

IMO


Lindsey, I remember reading the same things Esah is talking about. I think it was lots of misinformation that was spread around, but I do remember reading somewhere on one of the boards exactly what she's saying.

That is where some of the speculation that Tara may have headed to the White Horse came into play. I think it was during the time of FWPilot or whoever that was.

[fsbiii]

I think the problem here is a combining of different information and/or rumors into single items. For instance, there was a rumor about Marcus seeing an 18 year old and Tara disapproving (this came from Anita on Nancy Grace, IIRC). I've never heard that rumor combined with Meghan telling Marcus the 18 year old was at the bar that night. See what I mean? I've never read on any board that Meghan told Tara that Marcus was at the bar with an 18 year old, FWIW.

[minga]

I think the problem here is a combining of different information and/or rumors into single items. For instance, there was a rumor about Marcus seeing an 18 year old and Tara disapproving (this came from Anita on Nancy Grace, IIRC). I've never heard that rumor combined with Meghan telling Marcus the 18 year old was at the bar that night. See what I mean? I've never read on any board that Meghan told Tara that Marcus was at the bar with an 18 year old, FWIW.


I believe someone tried to suggest that...FWP possibly, someone else..I don't remember, but I think someone took that and ran with it and facts and fiction meshed. There was very much misinformation purposely around that time and picking out the truth was very difficult.

I think there has been more information that was taken at face value until someone, likely Results, spotted the inconsistencies and questioned things.

I agree with rumors becoming combined and then possibly taken as fact, but I do remember something like that at some point. Maybe you were ignoring this particular poster who had theories that no one could get through. :D

[Lindsey]

Lindsey, I remember reading the same things Esah is talking about. I think it was lots of misinformation that was spread around, but I do remember reading somewhere on one of the boards exactly what she's saying.

That is where some of the speculation that Tara may have headed to the White Horse came into play. I think it was during the time of FWPilot or whoever that was.

I know what you are saying about the rumors is true. I've almost stopped posting because it seems everytime I do it's like tonight ... trying to correct misinformation ... AGAIN. But when it's members that have been here almost from the beginning, it's frustrating. Maybe I need to just hang it up and know I gave it my best shot.

IMO

[dixinites]

I know what you are saying about the rumors is true. I've almost stopped posting because it seems everytime I do it's like tonight ... trying to correct misinformation ... AGAIN. But when it's members that have been here almost from the beginning, it's frustrating. Maybe I need to just hang it up and know I gave it my best shot. IMO

Nah, don't hang it up...I think sometimes it helps to take a break though.
I've only been here a few months, and I feel like I need one. It's hard to hash and re-hash with nothing new to go on. Everyone's patience has been stretched to the limit. Hang in there, girl, we need your brain, not to mention your organizational skills, lol.

[minga]

I know what you are saying about the rumors is true. I've almost stopped posting because it seems everytime I do it's like tonight ... trying to correct misinformation ... AGAIN. But when it's members that have been here almost from the beginning, it's frustrating. Maybe I need to just hang it up and know I gave it my best shot.

IMO


I'm sorry if I have contributed to that frustration. It's easy in this case to have the wrong information whether you have been here from the beginning or whether you are just coming in. There is speculation out the wazoo and very few facts.

If facts could be established it would make a world of difference. The truth is many people take something that's said by someone and run with it and in their mind it becomes fact. If you have a particular person in mind and someone else is leaning toward that POI then it reinforces what you believe and lack of facts is sometimes overlooked, it happens.

I know that what was spoken of isn't the way the call happened, I was stating that I do remember someone posting the out of whack information about that call...it was probably "What if....?" But it gets easily misconstrued.

It's very easy to get confused between all the ideas and all the misinformation posted. It's extremely difficult to sort out what was actually said in some of the interviews. And it's maddening to figure out who is distributing BS in the interest of bolstering their own ego and who is doing it to cover their ass.

I think it gets harder to handle the frustration the longer this goes on with almost no facts to deal with.

I apologize again if I contributed to your hair pulling.

[Esah]

Thank you Minga, you always mean well.

When I start remembering things that never happened, it's time to head for the hills. At least that is what you are all implying. I just wish the person who wishes to remain annonymous, would tell you what they told me, but that ain't gonna happen. So, I will be on my own from now on. Too tired to debate one more silly nonsensical detail.

You all have a good life and I pray that what has happened to Tara, never happens to you or anyone you love. I have really thought the world of all of you and I still do. Please keep you minds and hearts open and the truth will make itself known.

May God Bless Tara where ever she is.

Love
Esah

[Its just me]

Good morning, I pick up on flustration with some of us. It has also happened with me over time but I continued to press forward. I have had my toes stepped on but realize there are few facts out there and know what each of your post is as important as anything I post. Many of us have been here for the long haul and I am still standing after a few knocks along the way and I am asking all of you to continue to stand with me. We have came up against many that have tried to destroy certain paths but so far we all have survived. Just some good advise for me and all of you. A house divided will not stand. What better way to stop the search for Tara than to have discord among our family of members here for the long haul. Maybe I am reading too much into some posts and I am totally off base...if so please forgive me because my intention is not to sow discord but to keep us together and posters involved. If I posts something that has no merit I dont mind people correcting me and if I feel strong about my post I hope you dont mind me sticking to what I post and this can be done because it has been done for months. Many are tired who have done some hard research to get the facts and I depend on these facts to keep me on track. Many have minds that have ideas and bring them to the board...some have progressed and some have not (mine included) You guys are a great bunch and I appreciate each of you for being here for Tara. I think each of us have our own place or own job and contribute in that manner. Remember not a one of us is perfect but we all are here for answers and prayers we continue to be here and prayers we will one day get all the right answers. If I am out of line please forgive me because I truly respect, appreciate and love each of you. IJM

[readmylips]

Good morning, I pick up on flustration with some of us. It has also happened with me over time but I continued to press forward. I have had my toes stepped on but realize there are few facts out there and know what each of your post is as important as anything I post. Many of us have been here for the long haul and I am still standing after a few knocks along the way and I am asking all of you to continue to stand with me. We have came up against many that have tried to destroy certain paths but so far we all have survived. Just some good advise for me and all of you. A house divided will not stand. What better way to stop the search for Tara than to have discord among our family of members here for the long haul. Maybe I am reading too much into some posts and I am totally off base...if so please forgive me because my intention is not to sow discord but to keep us together and posters involved. If I posts something that has no merit I dont mind people correcting me and if I feel strong about my post I hope you dont mind me sticking to what I post and this can be done because it has been done for months. Many are tired who have done some hard research to get the facts and I depend on these facts to keep me on track. Many have minds that have ideas and bring them to the board...some have progressed and some have not (mine included) You guys are a great bunch and I appreciate each of you for being here for Tara. I think each of us have our own place or own job and contribute in that manner. Remember not a one of us is perfect but we all are here for answers and prayers we continue to be here and prayers we will one day get all the right answers. If I am out of line please forgive me because I truly respect, appreciate and love each of you. IJM

i didn't think you were out of line at all. you have such a gentle way about you despite your sometimes tough shell. that was a very diplomatic way to say: quit with the pissin contest folks. :rolleyes:

i've watched in amusement and in aggravation at times for the last few days. some misinformation is being tossed around for some reason, some snide comments to some newcomers for no good reason and some off the wall, make no sense kind of stuff has rolled around too. i don't know if it is just an indication of weariness, lack of information or a byproduct of tunnel vision but whatever it is i'd sure like to see it stop.

i see this discussion slowly waning and getting seriously off track with no new information and no ability to confirm or rule out theories or suspicions. it is a sad reality but we may never know the truth.

[readmylips]

Thank you Minga, you always mean well.

When I start remembering things that never happened, it's time to head for the hills. At least that is what you are all implying. I just wish the person who wishes to remain annonymous, would tell you what they told me, but that ain't gonna happen. So, I will be on my own from now on. Too tired to debate one more silly nonsensical detail.

You all have a good life and I pray that what has happened to Tara, never happens to you or anyone you love. I have really thought the world of all of you and I still do. Please keep you minds and hearts open and the truth will make itself known.

May God Bless Tara where ever she is.

Love
Esah

the person who wishes to remain anonymous? tells us what she told you? what did they tell you and what connection do they have to atra or to the people in question?

if you're speaking to the subject that has been disputed i can tell you what i know about it and the sources for that information. i feel absolutely confident that the information i have shared is what was presented by the person who spoke to tara that evening and unles she is misprepresenting herself it didn't happen the way you think it did. she called tara before she went to the whitehorse and it was not mhu.

if someone is telling you different then they would have to provide some sort of verification that would make me find them more credible than the person who actually made the call. that person may very well be repeating what was told to them.

that is the whole problem with this case and any case i bet. there is so much he said she said junk and so much room for interpretation and misinterpretation that it becomes a big jumbled mess. innocent people get hurt, slandered, disrespected, etc. guilty people could be completely overlooked. i know that everyone here is here because they want tara to be found. but we can only do so much and arguing over whether this source is more reliable that that one is pointless. who really knows what is what. and there is no sense in taking it personally. it's just a discussion. shake it off and roll on. if you want to come here and discuss then do it and if you don't then dont look for an excuse to leave. do what is right and good for you.

jmho and 2c

[readmylips]

i am entitled to my opinion? which opinion is that? your response to my comments made not one iota of sense to me. they don't jive. i think you just like to see your name assigned to some words. it doesnt matter if the words are relevant to the point or not. this is exactly what makes me say this is a waste of time and energy and what has made me step back and reassess my participation.

what difference does it make if there are people scurrying about behind the scenes sending private messages and reading what is posted? what change does that affect? we stay here for the right reasons? and are you insinuating that if someone decides to wash their hands of the increasingly infantile atmosphere that they somehow are operating off of the wrong reasons?

no one is nervous about a thing you say here. you can make yourself feel self important all you want to but the fact of the matter is that so much time has passed that if there is someone out there watching they are laughing at you. they feel pretty damn sure they committed the perfect crime.

all of the information that is available to us was available to le a long time ago. not only that, they no doubt have more information than we do. you can fool yourself into thinking that you are a some kind of secret double agent operating as an irritant to the perp and that your actions are going to flush him out but you're living in a dream world imo.

you can talk and discuss and explore because you are curious, interested, saddened, whatever your motivation may be and that is great but if you think you are here to solve the case and that the things you say here are moving the case in one direction or another, you've lost your marbles.

i know i shouldn't have responded because my last good nerve wore out yesterday but i am so sick of the nonsensical garbage that is posted just for the sake of posting and this one was directed right at me. i felt i had to respond to it.

reread your response to my statement and see if you can see any connection to it. thank you for demonstrating so well why i am sick of this and why i am going to step off and leave it alone. now, please don't respond to me because i will feel the need to respond again and that probably is not best for either of us or the other fine people of this community.

i don't want tara to be forgotten either but more and more i am disgusted by the way this has evolved. i don't know what the answers are. i wish i did.

rml signing out with apologies to the masses for being ill tempered.

you are entitled to your opinion. we may be frustrated and tired, but there are many members still here just reading and posting in private messages behind the scenes. we stay here for the right reasons. and i bet a few people are still nervous as long as we all "talk" here.;)

sure, there is no new info from LE and all we have are theories, but i think they have helped LE when they read. they may see things from a different set of eyes and it may trigger a path to go down, which i'm sure a few things have been "explored." i agree that WE may never know the truth. too bad.

i think it must be a pact of silence among the guilty. :shrug:

[fsbiii]

You are something else. I'm not sure what, but something else.


i think it must be a pact of silence among the guilty. :shrug:

[janis]

lindsey AND readmylips AND esah ready to hang it up at the same time?


I don't think these three will "hang it up"....At least I hope to God not. You just may not have the honor or privilege of seeing their posts any longer....

[Its just me]

I don't think these three will "hang it up"....At least I hope to God not. You just may not have the honor or privilege of seeing their posts any longer....

I agree Janis. These three have been a great asset to this board and this post by Kath simply was out of line. I pray they will take a break because this has been one hell of a battle staying on the board for the ones that are truly interested in what happened to Tara and these 3 along with others have provided much information to discuss. I humbly thank and appreciate each one.

Kath I asked you a question back but did not get a reply so I will ask again in case you decide to leave. Have you ever met HD? Are you familiar with the area around Warner Robins, Perry Georgia and I want to include in this post PC, Florida.

[One2Snoop]

i am entitled to my opinion? which opinion is that? your response to my comments made not one iota of sense to me. they don't jive. i think you just like to see your name assigned to some words. it doesnt matter if the words are relevant to the point or not. this is exactly what makes me say this is a waste of time and energy and what has made me step back and reassess my participation.

what difference does it make if there are people scurrying about behind the scenes sending private messages and reading what is posted? what change does that affect? we stay here for the right reasons? and are you insinuating that if someone decides to wash their hands of the increasingly infantile atmosphere that they somehow are operating off of the wrong reasons?

no one is nervous about a thing you say here. you can make yourself feel self important all you want to but the fact of the matter is that so much time has passed that if there is someone out there watching they are laughing at you. they feel pretty damn sure they committed the perfect crime.

all of the information that is available to us was available to le a long time ago. not only that, they no doubt have more information than we do. you can fool yourself into thinking that you are a some kind of secret double agent operating as an irritant to the perp and that your actions are going to flush him out but you're living in a dream world imo.

you can talk and discuss and explore because you are curious, interested, saddened, whatever your motivation may be and that is great but if you think you are here to solve the case and that the things you say here are moving the case in one direction or another, you've lost your marbles.

i know i shouldn't have responded because my last good nerve wore out yesterday but i am so sick of the nonsensical garbage that is posted just for the sake of posting and this one was directed right at me. i felt i had to respond to it.

reread your response to my statement and see if you can see any connection to it. thank you for demonstrating so well why i am sick of this and why i am going to step off and leave it alone. now, please don't respond to me because i will feel the need to respond again and that probably is not best for either of us or the other fine people of this community.

i don't want tara to be forgotten either but more and more i am disgusted by the way this has evolved. i don't know what the answers are. i wish i did.

rml signing out with apologies to the masses for being ill tempered.

I saw that post last night and thought :eek: - ITA with your post :beer: but hate to see you go - maybe you just need a long vacation - A cruise is sounding nice right about now. :rose:

[Aussie]

Kathmandu,
I personally can't see what all the fuss is about. So far you haven't managed to rile me up once. It seems to those reading that aren't really involved that you have unwittingly trodden on the toes of some. I have been here from the beginning reading and sometimes posting but I am too far away to be really affected by this personally. But I have followed true crime for a long time and this one really has got me in. I feel so sorry for the families of the missing and can't imagine what everyone is going through that knew Tara.
With that said, I would say keep posting whatever you like, something you say may jog the memory of a reader and bring an end to this. And as some have said that the perp thinks they have gotten away with making Tara disappear, if there is a perp it will catch up with them eventually.
I am not convinced there is a perp and am not willing to hang HD from the nearest tree. Everyone has a right to be here on this board and if they don't like your posts it is best for them to ignore them.

[fsbiii]

You are "something else" because you have schizophrenia, IMO. One night you post that you are leaving the circus and feel like Tara is alive and you are some kinda victim in a game; then you come back and act like you never posted such an insane post 2 days earlier. You imply ridiculous things as well, e.g., asking RML if he/she is a perp, implying I bully and belittle you and must be guilty of something else; etc. The list goes on and on. We have seen so many PSYCHOS come and go on this board (and others), and you are no different. You may type longer and more seemingly important posts (to you and your Sybils), but you mean NOTHING to anyone who is truly here to work together and try to solve the mystery. You instigate, aggravate, provoke, mislead, and make yourself THINK you are doing something worthwhile.

The truth is: you aren't doing anything but furthering your own sickness, IMO. I don't feel anger toward you, I feel a desperate sadness.

For the record, I've felt this way about you since the gate opened, no matter which name you post under or how you tilt your language, change your style of sentences, etc. It's part of who you are, and that's sick.

what is your point?
you've been here since the gate opened to this discussion forum and most people here have speculated that more than one person is involved in this.
why does that one liner make me a 'something else'

[readmylips]

Kathmandu,
I personally can't see what all the fuss is about. So far you haven't managed to rile me up once. It seems to those reading that aren't really involved that you have unwittingly trodden on the toes of some. I have been here from the beginning reading and sometimes posting but I am too far away to be really affected by this personally. But I have followed true crime for a long time and this one really has got me in. I feel so sorry for the families of the missing and can't imagine what everyone is going through that knew Tara.
With that said, I would say keep posting whatever you like, something you say may jog the memory of a reader and bring an end to this. And as some have said that the perp thinks they have gotten away with making Tara disappear, if there is a perp it will catch up with them eventually.
I am not convinced there is a perp and am not willing to hang HD from the nearest tree. Everyone has a right to be here on this board and if they don't like your posts it is best for them to ignore them.

aussie,

kath creates the fuss. she takes things way too personally imo, makes accusations and statements that encompass others where it is not appropriate and in her last post made statements directed toward me that i won't even justify with acknowledgement. i could care less if she posts or not. free speech is a wonderful thing and if you want to exercise your right to it i am all for it. you just have to be ready for what it brings to you. i only spoke to miss kathmandu because she singled out one of my posts and spoke to me. don't speak to me if you dont want spoken back to is my advice. i dont feel one bit sorry for her or the heat she has gotten as a result of her words. the crybaby mentality has no place in this type of discussion imo.

i agree with you that no one should be hanged from the nearest tree. no one. there is no evidence that gives me the feeling that there is justification for pointing a finger and i cringe at the thought of being in the shoes of the accused. but thats me. yes, there are lots of questions. i am afraid there always will be. too much time has passed and it is disheartening. i am not sure that i agree that if there is a perp that they will be caught. there are lots and lots of unsolved crimes and the more time passes the more i fear this could be one of them. i hope not but it is very possible.

i answered your post because i just cant bring myself to justify hers with a response. you have always struck me as a calm intelligent individual and i wanted you to know that i didnt target kath. imo she has targeted herself. she is seeking attention and i just wont give it to her anymore.

i am kind of sick of all of the posturing and that is why i am going to do my best to just read and give my fingers a break. it's hard to do when you're being spoken to and about though. but rest comfortable that i am not losing any sleep over it nor should anyone else over words on a message board. as a good friend of mine used to say, it aint that deep. :cool:

good day to all.

[Brainstorm]

rml,

As usual, your post is well thought out, intelligent, dead on accurate and very rational. I hope your fingers don't take too long of a rest, though. JMHO.

I agree,Merrick, & also, aussie,we have other threads that such OT subjects as kath wants to discuss,can be discussed,without,right in the middle of some good information,then SLAP....we all have to take a scolding,sometimes a persoanl & accentuated SLAP from her. it is distracting,,,,,,IMO

[BroadwayJoe]

WTH?? Was this whole thread devoted to one argument over who called who from where and whose source is more reliable? This is mass hysteria in fine form IMO. Wouldn't phone records settle this argument? I thought you people enjoyed dealing with facts only.

Time for a break. This is crazy.

[One2Snoop]

WTH?? Was this whole thread devoted to one argument over who called who from where and whose source is more reliable? This is mass hysteria in fine form IMO. Wouldn't phone records settle this argument? I thought you people enjoyed dealing with facts only.

Time for a break. This is crazy.

Talk to Kath about it. :rolleyes:

[Brainstorm]

Talk to Kath about it. :rolleyes:

O2S, this bj.........he/she comes on occasionally reads & responds to the last post or two,smart,remarks,etc...........then disappears............
he even ask about Esah today. Where has he been..........we're piecing together time-lines and road maps,........& he comes by to insult & derail...IMO...........I wonder if he reports straight to HD or would HD be embarrassed because BJ gave us such a detailed report..IMO
I just dont understand some posters.........I quess most feel the same of me/tho?

[One2Snoop]

O2S, this bj.........he/she comes on occasionally reads & responds to the last post or two,smart,remarks,etc...........then disappears............
he even ask about Esah today. Where has he been..........we're piecing together time-lines and road maps,........& he comes by to insult & derail...IMO...........I wonder if he reports straight to HD or would HD be embarrassed because BJ gave us such a detailed report..IMO
I just dont understand some posters.........I quess most feel the same of me/tho?

Unfortunately I think its just a hobby (joke) for some people - sad isn't it?

[Brainstorm]

Unfortunately I think its just a hobby (joke) for some people - sad isn't it?

Sad doesnt describe it....more like sick.........IF this is a hobby,and only a hobby,then tell me now.......because I've already started thinking about an old buddy or two,that I might could call to escort me into the river roads.....I am hunting a hunting party.........so tell me now if I need to keep wishing. JMHO

[One2Snoop]

Sad doesnt describe it....more like sick.........IF this is a hobby,and only a hobby,then tell me now.......because I've already started thinking about an old buddy or two,that I might could call to escort me into the river roads.....I am hunting a hunting party.........so tell me now if I need to keep wishing. JMHO

What goes on in here has nothing to do with what goes on out there concerning the "Search for Tara". I'm just saying people like to come here and stir things up and then leave again. By all means if you want to search - you should do it. Be sure to take a friend with you - just to be safe. :)

[Its just me]

WTH?? Was this whole thread devoted to one argument over who called who from where and whose source is more reliable? This is mass hysteria in fine form IMO. Wouldn't phone records settle this argument? I thought you people enjoyed dealing with facts only.

Time for a break. This is crazy.


BroadwayJoe I am going to tell you some of what I posted to HonestInjun.

No matter how highly you think of yourself your are not one step above any of the posters you are speaking about. If you were you would not be here. You can rant all you want but you are sitting in the same boat as the rest of us.

[readmylips]

BroadwayJoe I am going to tell you some of what I posted to HonestInjun.

No matter how highly you think of yourself your are not one step above any of the posters you are speaking about. If you were you would not be here. You can rant all you want but you are sitting in the same boat as the rest of us.

amen sista

[Brainstorm]

amen sista

By the way,does any one know who has Dolly now?? I saw her in the yard for what seemed like a long,long,time,,,,,,,,to leave a dog with such circumstances as were going on.
Even just a neighbor feeding & watering her, IMO was sad..
That dog was/IMO very aware of Tara & was probably devestated &was certainly isolated....IMO
Id like to know that someone who truly is an animal lover has her.
JMHO

[HonestInjun]

BroadwayJoe I am going to tell you some of what I posted to HonestInjun.

No matter how highly you think of yourself your are not one step above any of the posters you are speaking about. If you were you would not be here. You can rant all you want but you are sitting in the same boat as the rest of us.

You wanna bet!

I would not be caught dead in your boat, honey. My boat floats, your boat is filling with water and sinking fast.

Do not use my name again in reference to any of your nonsense.

[Results]

You wanna bet!

I would not be caught dead in your boat, honey. My boat floats, your boat is filling with water and sinking fast.

Do not use my name again in reference to any of your nonsense.

Like anybody wants to be in your boat! I would be in IJM's boats sinking then your boat floating! You are a hit and run. You can never stay around long enough to answer any questions so apprently that tells us all about your character. Just another thread derailer, post with no information except to attack, or a smartass remark. How in the he!! you picked your nick is beyond me because your are far from honest. YOU are one of the posters that just make me sick. You don't know jackcrap because if you did you would be debating what you know which is nothing! As always. FWIW, I will use your name any time I feel like it because of your nonsense. If you don't want posters using your post or talking about you then don't post, HONEY! JMHO

[HonestInjun]

I could care less what either of you think.

If you don't like my comments, hit the IGNORE button, works for me everytime.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I know more about this case than you could ever imagine and guess what----I did not learn one "single tidbit of truth" from this message board. How does that "trip your trigger."

Happy Sleuthing!!

[Results]

I could care less what either of you think.

If you don't like my comments, hit the IGNORE button, works for me everytime.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I know more about this case than you could ever imagine and guess what----I did not learn one "single tidbit of truth" from this message board. How does that "trip your trigger."

Happy Sleuthing!!

Goodness you had a copy of the police report? Why do you know so little when you claim you know so much? Ignore you oh no I learn so much from your behavior I wouldn't want to miss that! Afterall you know so much and I just can't miss that. Trigger, very intersting word to use. See I learn so much from what your post. Keep up the good work! I can't wait to read your next post!

[Brainstorm]

Goodness you had a copy of the police report? Why do you know so little when you claim you know so much? Ignore you oh no I learn so much from your behavior I wouldn't want to miss that! Afterall you know so much and I just can't miss that. Trigger, very intersting word to use. See I learn so much from what your post. Keep up the good work! I can't wait to read your next post!

Sounds to me like top-cop talk about offing someone......tripping his trigger?
havent heard that one.......will Hinjun help search for Tara? I dont know the posters that were involved the first time.........wonder does he know/or is willing to work with the Chief/or whoever is in charge now ???
JMHO

[Its just me]

I could care less what either of you think.

If you don't like my comments, hit the IGNORE button, works for me everytime.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I know more about this case than you could ever imagine and guess what----I did not learn one "single tidbit of truth" from this message board. How does that "trip your trigger."

Happy Sleuthing!!

Take your own advise sucker. You talk out of both sides of you mouth. First you bring your smart a** telling me what not to post and then you tell someone to hit the ignore button if they don't like your post. But Honey you did not surprise me in the least. And I am not surprised in the least that you know more about this case than most and I have no doubt you did not get it on the message board. By the way I'm gonna take a guess and say you know very well when a "trigger" is triped..Get my drift Honest Injun I know pretty darn well which river your "boat" is floating on also. Carry on HONEY :D

[HonestInjun]

Is this you looking for advice on Psycho-Babble:

need info on zyprexa
Posted by ItsJustMe on December 6, 2000, at 3:53:57

Hi - My Dr. put me on 5 mg of Zyprexa to help boost the Effexor XR (300 mg/day) that I take.

Does Zyprexa have a good history of helping anti-depressants such as Effexor work better?

Is 5 mg a good dose?

What is the half-life of Zyprexa? Should I be taking 2.5 mg twice a day or is it a drug that can be taken just once a day and still work all 24 hours?

Any info would be GREATLY appreciated!!!

Carry on, honey. Take it easy, though. I felt sorry for you at one time after the tearful PM I received from you---but not any more. Take the blinders off and stay away from the grape flavor-aid.

Take your own advise sucker. You talk out of both sides of you mouth. First you bring your smart a** telling me what not to post and then you tell someone to hit the ignore button if they don't like your post. But Honey you did not surprise me in the least. And I am not surprised in the least that you know more about this case than most and I have no doubt you did not get it on the message board. By the way I'm gonna take a guess and say you know very well when a "trigger" is triped..Get my drift Honest Injun I know pretty darn well which river your "boat" is floating on also. Carry on HONEY :D

[ocean]

honestinjun,

Did your post from the the past, regarding It's Just Me, make you feel better and do you think those who are here trying to understand what happened to Tara will think badly of IJM?

Not hardly. Grow up.

ocean

[HonestInjun]

Sorry, I am not the ONE on meds. I own the horse in the ad and his name is "Trigger." Any more questions??


Having an outer body experience, or, in your case, an out of mind experience? You need to call the nurse and tell her you need your meds, OK?

[HonestInjun]

With only 9 posts, how could you comment intelligently on anything that has happened prior to today....WAIT!!!!.....You read a lot, right??? LOL


honestinjun,

Did your post from the the past, regarding It's Just Me, make you feel better and do you think those who are here trying to understand what happened to Tara will think badly of IJM?

Not hardly. Grow up.

ocean

[ocean]

I'll let you wonder about that.

ocean

[Its just me]

Is this you looking for advice on Psycho-Babble:

need info on zyprexa
Posted by ItsJustMe on December 6, 2000, at 3:53:57

Hi - My Dr. put me on 5 mg of Zyprexa to help boost the Effexor XR (300 mg/day) that I take.

Does Zyprexa have a good history of helping anti-depressants such as Effexor work better?

Is 5 mg a good dose?

What is the half-life of Zyprexa? Should I be taking 2.5 mg twice a day or is it a drug that can be taken just once a day and still work all 24 hours?

Any info would be GREATLY appreciated!!!

Carry on, honey. Take it easy, though. I felt sorry for you at one time after the tearful PM I received from you---but not any more. Take the blinders off and stay away from the grape flavor-aid.

Oh honey keep casting stones my way cause it will not stop me from telling it just like I see it about anything....myself included. I truly appreciated your kind pm. truly..as a matter of fact I just got a pm complaining about your sorry a** and I commented on how kind you were to me in the beginning so No I have not forgot but if you want to take your kind words back that is fine with me and totally your discision Honey but I did appreciate it at the time and very much needed it. What happened to the person that posted back then.
Now let us go a little deeper. You post a pure down right lie where you quote me about the medication. I posted on a thread just a day or so ago that I am taking medication and Effexor 150 is one med I take once a day and I take alpazolam (xanax) .50G at bed time as my last prescription dated 1/29/07 down from twice a day. But if I need one twice a day now I take it. I started taking both after I lost my 30 year old son in a traffic accident. Am asking for sympathy at this time NO I can only say I Thank God I was able to have him 30 years because many mothers in my area can not say this and I am certainly no better than they are. Now Honey I would loan you some of my medication but I can see it's not what you need because it appears you have never lost a child. Carry on Honey:D

[Brainstorm]

Oh, now there's an unholy alliance, the HonestIdiot and the Dummy! Please let me in on your PMs, I need a good laugh. Nevermind, I don't understand gibberish!!! JMO.

honestinjun,

Did your post from the the past, regarding It's Just Me, make you feel better and do you think those who are here trying to understand what happened to Tara will think badly of IJM?

Not hardly. Grow up.

ocean

Oh honey keep casting stones my way cause it will not stop me from telling it just like I see it about anything....myself included. I truly appreciated your kind pm. truly..as a matter of fact I just got a pm complaining about your sorry a** and I commented on how kind you were to me in the beginning so No I have not forgot but if you want to take your kind words back that is fine with me and totally your discision Honey but I did appreciate it at the time and very much needed it. What happened to the person that posted back then.
Now let us go a little deeper. You post a pure down right lie where you quote me about the medication. I posted on a thread just a day or so ago that I am taking medication and Effexor 150 is one med I take once a day and I take alpazolam (xanax) .50G at bed time as my last prescription dated 1/29/07 down from twice a day. But if I need one twice a day now I take it. I started taking both after I lost my 30 year old son in a traffic accident. Am asking for sympathy at this time NO I can only say I Thank God I was able to have him 30 years because many mothers in my area can not say this and I am certainly no better than they are. Now Honey I would loan you some of my medication but I can see it's not what you need because it appears you have never lost a child. Carry on Honey:D

IJM < you owe no one an explanation.......this poster has come on to disrupt things IMOO< , and now is throwing out tid bits about the horse......If he/she knows anything they should speak up like YOU & some of the others have....
IMO this is not about you so ignore people like him/her....
I hope you & I have the honor of being in the same boat, same hunting party, etc. when the time comes & I doubt we'll be bothered with trouble makers......IMOO

[Its just me]

Oh Lawd I need an answer to a question. Just to keep things straight. Is Honey saying he is Roy Rogers. Surely not. He knows better than that. :D

[Brainstorm]

I thought he was trying to say he was the horse owner, ( the ad,that Tara had circled-in the news paper, back a few days before she vanished.)
Surely he isnt so cruel as to derail us with that?
JMHO

[Its just me]

IJM < you owe no one an explanation.......this poster has come on to disrupt things IMOO< , and now is throwing out tid bits about the horse......If he/she knows anything they should speak up like YOU & some of the others have....
IMO this is not about you so ignore people like him/her....
I hope you & I have the honor of being in the same boat, same hunting party, etc. when the time comes & I doubt we'll be bothered with trouble makers......IMOO

I know I owe no one an explanation BS. But I am not ashamed that I got in bad shape and I am thankful I was mature enough to see what was happening to me and brave enough to seek help. Maybe if Tara had done the same she would not be gone where ever she is. The funny thing is I know I have made several sencere friends here and on TT. Some of the best that have ever crossed my path but on the other side I have several that will cut me with the ole axe with deadly licks. Just shows me I'm not perfect and that I am not like by everyone but I truly appreciate the kindness and respect many have sent my way and you are one of them and the rest of you know who you are. :patriot: Together we stand.

[Its just me]

I thought he was trying to say he was the horse owner, ( the ad,that Tara had circled-in the news paper, back a few days before she vanished.)
Surely he isnt so cruel as to derail us with that?
JMHO

Sorry, I am not the ONE on meds. I own the horse in the ad and his name is "Trigger." Any more questions??

BS I went back to see what Honey was saying and he does say he owns the harse in the ad. I paid more attention to the horses name being "Trigger" and thought Honey was telling us he is Roy Rogers. We sir not sure exactly what Honey is saying. :D

[Its just me]

Maybe he's saying he works at Roy Rogers.

Like I posted before Honey talks out of both sides of his mouth. I say just let him keep riding his hoss "Trigger" around in PM land. I sure needed a little fun today. Thanks Honey

[concernedperson]

Honestinjun is vile and hateful. Please no one take what she/he says to heart or it could make your heart turn black. Others, actually almost everyone sees this for what it is.

I would bet LE looks for a reason to question that person more just on grounds of general contempt.

[Results]

Will the real HD stand up?

[Brainstorm]

I know I owe no one an explanation BS. But I am not ashamed that I got in bad shape and I am thankful I was mature enough to see what was happening to me and brave enough to seek help. Maybe if Tara had done the same she would not be gone where ever she is. The funny thing is I know I have made several sencere friends here and on TT. Some of the best that have ever crossed my path but on the other side I have several that will cut me with the ole axe with deadly licks. Just shows me I'm not perfect and that I am not like by everyone but I truly appreciate the kindness and respect many have sent my way and you are one of them and the rest of you know who you are. :patriot: Together we stand.

You areso right,about if Tara had sought help,etc., ITA........
and thank you for including me in your list of people that you believe have your back.......I know no one,this is a message board, but I am counting on the same help,I hope, if need be.....and thank you in advance for the help I have already received here..... this is my first experience with a message board, but in reality, I have several that probably would love to cut me with the ole axe with deadly licks,LOL(dont we all?) my point is..........we all have a reason,many reasons to be here.........I have more than one myself....
and its looking to me like, the ones that are sincere, are actually willing to &
are getting ready to (not put the money where the mouth is) but are ready to stand one by one,by one behind the chief/? & the one in charge?-while he
/they continue to hunt for Tara,for answers......JMHO

[Brainstorm]

Will the real HD stand up?

What do you mean Results?
I have wondered if he would speak up & say "I am hd, I was /was not,in Ocilla, etc...........I have been saved.........I cannot hurt my wife by telling the truth........" of course I dont understan him & why he doesnt want to talk about & find Tara, or help us find Tara?
JMHO

[Its just me]

Will the real HD stand up?

Results, don't get your hopes up on this one. I've seen too many of these:chicken: :chicken: that clucks in and out leaving their droppings here and there. :biggrin:

[Results]

Results, don't get your hopes up on this one. I've seen too many of these:chicken: :chicken: that clucks in and out leaving their droppings here and there. :biggrin:

IJM, I will have to tell you in a PM .... you know we don't want to let them know how we been catching them red handed.

[Brainstorm]

thank you, all of you....IMO

[Its just me]

IJM, I will have to tell you in a PM .... you know we don't want to let them know how we been catching them red handed.

Thanks results and I hope you dont mind be saying this on the board only to let the sincere posters know you have done a professional job not to be a cop. :rose: and one for your assistant :rose:

[Results]

you are right merrick you can not cheat the devil they will be found out sooner or later i hope it is sooner because it is frightfull to no a killer is walking our street.

You believe she is alive now?

[sogalady]

I could care less what either of you think.

If you don't like my comments, hit the IGNORE button, works for me everytime.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I know more about this case than you could ever imagine and guess what----I did not learn one "single tidbit of truth" from this message board. How does that "trip your trigger."

Happy Sleuthing!!

(I realize that this post was not addressed to me, but when you address certain posters, it is only fair that you know,, you are posting MOST of us .........and......How is that working for you ?)

Well, as for me, I don't have a trigger, up until now I haven't found the need for one. After reading this post, the only thing that I can add is :WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU DOING HERE THEN ??? No reason to waste your time nor ours ! Since I had rather be scum UNDER IJM's boat than the captain on yours,, I have decided to give you a little attention, (something that you seem to need a little of) feel honored as I have never done this to any other poster here ,,,,,,,,,officially on 'IGNORE" thank you Lord for this small but wonderful feature, the ignore button !:D

[sogalady]

thank you freshwater for the advise what do to about sogalady who is also brainstrom sending the threat to me. i have done what you suggest thank you again. i have also disable private messages to she cannot send more bad messages like that thank you.

Leaving this here to clarify. DO NOT suggest that I agree with your assertion that sogalady and brainstorm are the same person or that I agree that either/both has threatened you. I told you what I would tell any member - if you feel threatened then conntact LE. PMs and their contents are no allowed to be placed on the public board (which you have done here). If a member offends you place them on ignore and do not open pms sent by them.

[QUOTE=Mannequin;8814182]honest indian are you local? if you are i want to talk to you pl3ease pm me.

Oh Mannequin, NOW that you are accepting PMs again, remember the advice from FW. But moreso, don't falsify their content in an attempt to " wiggle your way out of your never ending b***s***! Intelligent advice does not = threat.

ATTENTION BRAINSTORM: Remember the ole saying, "the sun doesn't shine on the same dog's a** everyday!",,,,,,,,,different dog,,,, different day !
BS, is it sunny at your house today ?

ATTENTION HONEST..,,? Be aware that some PMs that are sent as a warning might possibly be interpreted by those who are mentally challenged as a "THREAT", Certain individuals may also transfer their multiple personalities, intelligence levels,nics, etc. to you in order to attempt to equalize themselves, which ultimately causes them to accuse you of being other posters on the board ! ie: you may be Hanginout before the day is over ! :shrug: Don't say that you haven't been warned,,,,,,,,please note that this is not a "THREAT"!

[Brainstorm]

It is absolutely sunny & mild......
what a nightmare,happened here last nite...
looked like bj was trying to make a hook-up,IMO
I wonder if these yahoos would be interested in going to the river?
I could get them lost & everyone will be so happy that they're still on the case....
JMHO

[dixinites]

SNIP> ATTENTION BRAINSTORM: Remember the ole saying, "the sun doesn't shine on the same dog's a** everyday!",,,,,,,,,different dog,,,, different day !
BS, is it sunny at your house today ?<SNIP

...Huh?...

[dixinites]

This goes back to when Manny was accusing sogalady and brainstorm of being the same person. Apparently the dummy sent FW a PM and then took it to the boards implying FW backed her up and agreed. Of course, that was a lie, and FW set the record straight. Some of the antics of these crazies goes beyond the pale of bizarre. JMHO.

Okies, again, right over my pointy lil head, lol...Ty.

[Results]

Bumping...ok as you can see I screwed up we might need a dog afterall!

[dixinites]

Did FSB ever return the dog?

[dixinites]

Did anyone ever find out what clothing was used to scent the dogs?

[dixinites]

Bumping...ok as you can see I screwed up we might need a dog afterall!

Thanks, Results for bumping this! And when you get your dog back, hang on to it...never know when you'll need "Blue's Clues"!

[readmylips]

Did anyone ever find out what clothing was used to scent the dogs?

i don't know that i have ever seen that referenced. anyone?

[One2Snoop]

Nope never seen it referenced either - I think there was some question about whether or not the clothes she'd been wearing that Saturday were used - but I haven't heard anything one way or another.

[Its just me]

Did FSB ever return the dog?

Yep FSB sent it via the cropduster cause he left his calling card so I would know for sure he is the one who had my puppy.

The bad part is I had to get the chip out of it's tail and call back the cropduster to get the chip to the CIA fast so I could find out what in the heck is going on.
Man I feel like I have been climbing Jacob's ladder. But I am finally getting it.



Happy Valentines Day to all the long haul gang.

[One2Snoop]

Bumping for Tara :rose:

[One2Snoop]

Bump :rose: