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MJTenn

02-04-2006, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by Irwinmom
What are your thoughts on this info??

Wow, I don't know what to think. I had a situation in my family where we discovered that a doctor treating a relative entered rehab for chemical dependency: the frustrating part was that this was what the doctor was treating the RELATIVE for. Since then, I have heard of many cases similar to this one, so I guess that Dr. Gattis' problem, in this day and age, is not unheard of. But it certainly is a feeling of betrayal when it happens, imo.

A couple of things about those legal papers: it certainly seemed that he was VERY closely supervised & monitored. And did anyone notice that the papers referred to "her" in several places? I didn't get that, unless it was just typos.

I remember VERY early on in this case, that Anita, iirc, said that her husband was Tara's physician. I was a little surprised to hear that; just seemed a little strange for a brother in law to treat a sister in law. I know it would make ME uncomfortable...but that's just my opinion.

It looks like he got his unrestricted license back in 2002, right? After going through all that, surely he was not prescribing controlled substances to Tara or any other family member. At least, I wouldn't think he would do that.

I don't know what to think of any of this. But this case is close to my heart, because I grew up about 50 miles from this area.

MJ (MOO)

concernedperson

02-04-2006, 08:20 PM

His specialty is geriatrics so it makes this even stranger.

Mindis

02-04-2006, 08:22 PM

They also named some head meds, such as zoloft, paxil and prozac.. if this was more recent I would have thought he probably perscribed one of those to Tara but the emotional time period she had was more recent. Unless Tara has always battled depression.. Some people just have that chemical imbalance.. just a thought.. hmmmmm..

Originally posted by Irwinmom
I have no clue!!!??

Mindis

02-04-2006, 08:25 PM

yeah.. hmmmmm.. :confused:

Originally posted by concernedperson
His specialty is geriatrics so it makes this even stranger.

Track292003

02-05-2006, 05:28 PM

In dealings I had a few years ago helping out some elderly neighbors, I encountered M.D.s who call themselves "geriatricians" or who advertise/list "geriatrics" in the yellow pages as one of their specialties.

Does anyone know if there is a board certification for "geriatricians" and if the BIL is one? Somehow, I doubt it.

My hunch is that he may be an opportunist who just added "geriatrics" to his specialties and continues to treat other patients.

(I also noticed the word "her" instead of "his" or "him" in the document about his medical license. And I also think it's "typos," and that the form can be used for either a man or woman and it's up to the word processor (a person, not a computer) to select the correct term from the "boilerplate" form.

02-05-2006, 10:36 PM

Track292003 writes:
(I also noticed the word "her" instead of "his" or "him" in the document about his medical license. And I also think it's "typos," and that the form can be used for either a man or woman and it's up to the word processor (a person, not a computer) to select the correct term from the "boilerplate" form.

Track: I was using a people locator and came up with this: Dr.Larry/Sharie Gattis/Hawkinsville, GA The people locater lists Anita Gattis as a possible relative of Larry or Sharie Gattis and Sharie Gattis as possible relative to Larry and Anita Gattis/Hawkinsville, GA.

When you said the word "her" was used, it made me start to wonder, especially after finding Larry and Sharie Gattis.

Does Dr. Gattis have a twin sister?

Does anybody know who Sharie Gattis is?

The only child listed of Anita and Larry is Gabe/13 yrs. of age, so I'm not figuring it's a child of his, unless by a previous marriage, if he had one.

Is Sharie Larry's mother?
A sister that never married?
A cousin?
An ex-wife?
Or is Larry really Sharie?
I know it's crazy, but it was genuinely what crossed my mind, so I spit it out there.
This is too weird.

Also, in Georgia, Dr. Gattis is listed in a 2006 directory as a Dr. of general practice, also seeing children 10 years old and UP.
Geriatrics is not mentioned anywhere.

Mindis

02-05-2006, 11:47 PM

that's strange huh.. :confused:

ipswitch

02-06-2006, 08:37 AM

Just for the record:

from the American Board Of Medical Specialties:
Larry David Gattis, MD
Locations:
Hawkinsville, GA United States
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Certified By: The American Board of Family Medicine
General Certificates:
Family Medicine
Subspecialty Certificates:
Geriatric Medicine
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Mindis

02-06-2006, 09:06 AM

thanks.. clears things up..

02-06-2006, 12:46 PM

Geriatrics is listed as a SUBspecialty, which means he can work in that area with his certification.

So he's a general practicioner, but will see geriatric patients. I also found that he will see children 10 years old and up.

ipswitch

02-06-2006, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by fwpilotfan51
Geriatrics is listed as a SUBspecialty, which means he can work in that area with his certification.

So he's a general practicioner, but will see geriatric patients. I also found that he will see children 10 years old and up.

I wasn't arguing the fact that he will see children 10 and up, hence the specialty of FAMILY MEDICINE.

The SUBSPECIALTY certificate means that he also has ADDITIONAL training for that subspecialty.

You will also notice that he *IS* BOARD CERTIFIED which means he has completed additional training and testing. Not all physicians are board certified.

concernedperson

02-06-2006, 03:12 PM

This is where the geriatric specialty info came from.

http://www.medicalboard.state.ga.us/bdsearch/index.cgi

Type in Gattis and it will come up.

ipswitch

02-06-2006, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by concernedperson
This is where the geriatric specialty info came from.

http://www.medicalboard.state.ga.us/bdsearch/index.cgi

Type in Gattis and it will come up.

Actually, I got my information about specialties and subspecialties from the American Board Of Medical Specialties. It tells you whether or not a physician is board certified, and what their specialty certificates are in.

Here is some information about medical specialties:
http://www.abms.org/Downloads/Which%20Med%20Spec.pdf

edited to add link

Track292003

02-06-2006, 07:23 PM

Sassy,

It was "fwpilotfan51" who posted the information on Dr. G., in response to my questions...so thank you, fwpilotfan51 and all others who are researching his background.

4ANGELS

02-06-2006, 10:37 PM

I am sorry but this is how rumors get started. I really dont believe her family had anything to do with her disapperance. Lets not dig up dirt on people especially the family of the missing. I am a nurse and we have doctors that help family members all the time nothing unusual. As for being depressed maybe Tara was who cares. What women doesnt. I mean if she is alive and sees this what you all are talking about how do you think that will make her feel.

I totally believe that the LE knows who is involved and it is not her family. I mean come on people 3 women missing around the same time and GBI have no clue yeah right.

All I ask is please her family reads these and believe me you know they do, dont talk rumors and trash, it only hurts. They dont need anymore hurt they have had enough!

To the Grattis family ignore and move on who cares what people say. Sooner or later the truth will come out and they will be the ones that feel terrible! My thoughts and prayers are with you:rose:

Irwinmom

02-07-2006, 08:52 AM

Being the one who started this thread, I feel that I must respond to this. I in no way meant to hurt the family or start a rumor. I saw this info on another site and was curious how this may be relative to her disappearance. I am a local and I can tell you that we all are hurting over this. However Tara's family cannot escape from these type of inquiries, They too are asking questions from others that were involved with Tara. Because we don't know all of the answers we must consider everything! I have alot of respect for many doctors as well, however it is possible for them to over step boundaries to. They are not all perfect. Again I am not trying to cause hurt to the family, We know that sometimes the guilty one can be the ones closest to the victims. That has been the case in many other situations. I being from Ocilla can tell you that the families of some of the so called "persons of interest" have been upset as well over things said. That is unfortunately going to be apart of something like this. The family is no exception to this and as long as the guilty one is found, that is what is important. Hurt feeling will mend!
We want Tara back!!!

4ANGELS

02-07-2006, 11:58 AM

Hummmmm. I bet you would like to know. Its called connections. How do you even know that Tara is even in GA anymore hummm. YOU DONT. Alot of missing people go missing from there State but end up being found in another State.

As for Taras family jumping into other people involved come on really. They are the family and there is evidence. I realize people are going to start talking about who did what.

We are here for one reason and that is Tara.

I know the stuff you posted about Larry is public, but do we need to make it public here? Put yourself in their shoes ok you have someone missing and you go out of your way to look for this person which LE is suppose to be doing, and then someone brings your dirty laudry from years back up on a missing Tara site.

If he did have anything to do with her disappereance I will apologize to everyone, but I think we may be hurting a lot more people than helping.

NancynNC

02-07-2006, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by Irwinmom
Being the one who started this thread, I feel that I must respond to this. I in no way meant to hurt the family or start a rumor. I saw this info on another site and was curious how this may be relative to her disappearance. I am a local and I can tell you that we all are hurting over this. However Tara's family cannot escape from these type of inquiries, They too are asking questions from others that were involved with Tara. Because we don't know all of the answers we must consider everything! I have alot of respect for many doctors as well, however it is possible for them to over step boundaries to. They are not all perfect. Again I am not trying to cause hurt to the family, We know that sometimes the guilty one can be the ones closest to the victims. That has been the case in many other situations. I being from Ocilla can tell you that the families of some of the so called "persons of interest" have been upset as well over things said. That is unfortunately going to be apart of something like this. The family is no exception to this and as long as the guilty one is found, that is what is important. Hurt feeling will mend!
We want Tara back!!!

Well said!!
I have heard no one trash AG and we did not think nothing of the BIL until he went on the air and told about the GBI giving him the LDT. His record should come out. He and the GBI have brought it to our attention. IMO
No one wants to hurt the innocent, but this is a forum to discuss the case. Maybe some of you are new to CTV message boards, but this one has been mild compared to some of the boards.

Every little bit of info may help find Tara and that is what we all want.

Mindis

02-07-2006, 01:32 PM

Well said.. we are discussing facts here.. why are people getting so defensive.. I thought we were all here for the same reason.. To help Tara.. That's why this board is here 4Angels.. no one is personally attacking anyone.. No one is saying the BIL is involved.. Were discussing facts that's all.. *sigh*

4ANGELS

02-07-2006, 01:41 PM

Thanks I guess we are all up in arms over this missing case. But I didnt mean to cause any point directed to just anyone. Because I for one know that I have pointed and thought well maybe... But we like we all said before were here for Tara. Now lets go find her :rose:

Whatisgoingon

02-07-2006, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by 4ANGELS
Hummmmm. I bet you would like to know. Its called connections. How do you even know that Tara is even in GA anymore hummm. YOU DONT. Alot of missing people go missing from there State but end up being found in another State.

As for Taras family jumping into other people involved come on really. They are the family and there is evidence. I realize people are going to start talking about who did what.

We are here for one reason and that is Tara.

I know the stuff you posted about Larry is public, but do we need to make it public here? Put yourself in their shoes ok you have someone missing and you go out of your way to look for this person which LE is suppose to be doing, and then someone brings your dirty laudry from years back up on a missing Tara site.

If he did have anything to do with her disappereance I will apologize to everyone, but I think we may be hurting a lot more people than helping.

You must be the bil.

4ANGELS

02-08-2006, 07:51 AM

What is that suppose to mean?

4ANGELS

02-09-2006, 01:52 AM

WOW IS THIS HOW YOU GUYS ARE LIKE IN GEORGIA? RUDE. I DID NOT IN ANYWAY DROP ANY HINTS MAYBE YOU NEED TO READ THE POST AGAIN. I THINK A LOT OF YOU ARE YOUNG KIDS STARTING CRAP BECAUSE IF YOU REALLY WANTED THE FACTS YOU WOULD GET THEM NOT RUMORS.

YOU SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS THAT LARRY HAD A DRUG PROBLEM. I HAVENT SEEN THAT JUST ABOUT A COURT ABOUT PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. dID IT SAY HE WAS ADDICTED? I MUST OF MISSED THAT ONE!

I HAD POSTED THE REPLY BECAUSE UNTIL YOU HAVE REAL PROOF THAT HE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT DONT MAKE IT WORSE ON TARAS FAMILY.

YOU ARE SAYING I AM SOMEONE ELSE, GUESS WHAT I AM NOT ANYONE FROM THAT STATE. LIKE I SAID BEFORE I AM FROM NEBRASKA AND I AM A MOTHER OF 4 MY HUSBAND IS A LE OFFICER DO I NEED TO ADDRESS ANYMORE ABOUT MY PERSONAL LIFE.

BELIEVE ME IF I LIVED THERE I SURE IN THE HECK WOULD NOT BE HERE TYPING ALL THE TIME LIKE SOME PEOPLE FROM THERE, I WOULD BE OUT LOOKING EVERYWHERE FOR HER.

LOOK AGAIN PLEASE WHEN IT COMES TO SLANDER. NO MATTER WHAT IS PUBLIC THERE IS STILL LIMITATIONS GET IT RIGHT.

I USED TO COME HERE ALOT BEFORE MY DAUGHTER GOT SICK AND I HAVENT BEEN HERE FOR AWHILE AND NOW SINCE I HAVE COME BACK IT SEEMS LIKE GOSSIP, RUMORS, I THINK PEOPLE GET A THRILL OFF OF IT.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE IF SHE IS STILL WITH US AND SHE DID RUN AWAY ON HER OWN I CAN SEE WHY NOW. SHOW A LITTLE RESPECT PEOPLE.

grandline

02-09-2006, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by 4ANGELS
LOOK AGAIN PLEASE WHEN IT COMES TO SLANDER. NO MATTER WHAT IS PUBLIC THERE IS STILL LIMITATIONS GET IT RIGHT.

I am not posting this to be ugly but I feel like a point needs to be made that has obviously not been made clearly enough.

Stating a FACT is not "slander". Slander is defamatory oral communication. Libel is defamatory written communication.

Yes some of the dirty laundry that is being aired may seem irrelevant or may be hurtful to some...but I have yet to see any professional misconduct or release of truly "privileged" information.

I do not believe the sleuth posters here are posting things that they believe to be false or with malicious intent. If something is of public record then it is fair game whether any of us likes it or not.

There is no need to trash anyone but there is also no need to scare away posters with good intentions by threatening "slander".

Just MHO, for what it is worth.

Sassafrass

02-09-2006, 02:21 PM

There are some good thinkers on this board, but should caution a few. Whether we like it or not, Doctors are human too, and can fall victim to their own addictions and problems.

We don't know why he was addicted to anything, he could've had a major surgery, or some kind of pain. Vicodin is a highly addictable drug, and that is why it is controlled. Getting caught could've been his cry for help.

MY BIL just had a hip replacement at the ripe old age of 33. I cannot say for certain that he was addicted to the painkillers, but his pain before the surgery was debilitating.

My dad was a doctor, and he treated close friends and family...he wrote prescriptions when we had colds or strep throat or whatever. It's not uncommon.

We don't know the circumstances surrounding the prescriptions, the stay at Ridgeview, etc. Unless someone enlightened us on this board and I haven't gotten to it yet. I do think some are looking way to hard into the BIL. JMO.:read:

4ANGELS

02-09-2006, 04:09 PM

Thank You Sassa. My point exactly!

Sassafrass

02-15-2006, 02:41 PM

How so????? :confused:

fsbiii

02-17-2007, 08:09 PM

**Old Thread Worth Discussion IMO**

In light of the current discussion about Tara's upbringing and possible mental and/or physical abuse, I think the timeline of Dr. Larry Gattis' drug problems and ethical violations are relevant for discussion.

His first 'go-round' with the State Board was in 1987. When did Tara come to live with the Gattises? She would've turned 14 in Nov. 1988. He apparently went for treatment for his drug problem and was put on probation for 4 years. I guess my point is why in the hell would Tara be sent to live with them if something like this was going on? The timeline just bothers me, and I've been meaning to dig up these dates for a week or so to compare.

Then in 1997 another round with the State Board occurred, and this involved self-prescribing and prescribing for family members in 1996 and 1997. He went into treatment, again, and was put on probation, again. The documents note that he had been off chemical dependency for 10 years.

In 2002, all probation was lifted.

Some of the earlier posts in this thread are informative, too, in addition to the PDF documents themselves. JMOO.

concernedperson

02-17-2007, 08:30 PM

Maybe the ethical problems were kept between the board and Larry. No outsiders knew including Faye. So, he wasn't practicing for a few years while Tara lived with them it seems. Did Anita have a job to support the family while he was on "leave" ?

fsbiii

02-17-2007, 08:38 PM

concernedperson

02-17-2007, 09:16 PM

If he wasn't practicing medicine, I can't imagine people/family/Faye not knowing something was up. I haven't looked at his consent orders closely in a while to see what his probation covered; probably limited his practice & prescriptive permissions but not a total shut down of the business.

That seems more correct than not practicing at all. The medical review board would give leeway minus prescriptions for himself and family. He probably had a cohort prescribe for his patients....as no one can read the scripts anyway. LOL!

The point is he was having problems and those problems can cause family problems too. To what extent it is not known to us but GBI certainly decided this was to be further explored.

The rush to interview with Greta seemed like damage control to me. Anita had the deer in the headlights stare and Larry protests too much. Very shortly after is when the hype with Carla started in full force. Of course, deflection has always been a prerequisite in this case. For what exact reason we still don't know but it is noted.

Blue Mermaid

02-17-2007, 09:38 PM

According to LG in his interview with Larry Harriet, Anita and LG met when Tara was 14. I don't know when they married or when Tara went to live with them.
**Old Thread Worth Discussion IMO**

His first 'go-round' with the State Board was in 1987. When did Tara come to live with the Gattises? She would've turned 14 in Nov. 1988. He apparently went for treatment for his drug problem and was put on probation for 4 years. I guess my point is why in the hell would Tara be sent to live with them if something like this was going on? The timeline just bothers me, and I've been meaning to dig up these dates for a week or so to compare.

fsbiii

02-17-2007, 09:42 PM

I'd love to get a good timeline on those issues, too. I also caught that reference in his interview w/Hairnet (I believe that was the one). Welcome to the board, Blue Mermaid!

:beer:

According to LG in his interview with Larry Harriet, Anita and LG met when Tara was 14. I don't know when they married or when Tara went to live with them.

Blue Mermaid

02-17-2007, 09:54 PM

Thanks Fizz! :seeya:

hypnotized

02-18-2007, 12:52 AM

According to LG in his interview with Larry Harriet, Anita and LG met when Tara was 14. I don't know when they married or when Tara went to live with them.

Blue Mermaid, welcome aboard!

I would take whatever Harriet said with a grain of salt. IMO he compiles info from a number of articles in print, then calls it an "interview." He may have talked with LG at some point, but I wouldn't put any weight on his "facts."

;)