she had recently broken up with a boyfriend [Archive]

Babes

11-02-2005, 09:44 PM

had recently broken up with a boyfriend
http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=4064765&nav=5kZQ

Who is this boyfriend? Does he have a great alibi that day? Hmmm they recently broke up? What's the reason of the break-up? Another man or woman involve? Is she pregnant? All we hear in the news was her pageant histories...IMO LE should provide more informations to find her.

Babes

11-02-2005, 09:56 PM

Tara Grinstead was troubled by two contentious relationships, one with her estranged long time boyfriend, and the other with a former student who had become almost obsessed with her,

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/1105/0201_tara_grinstead_relationships.html

Babes

11-02-2005, 10:03 PM

It is unclear when Grinstead and Harper last saw each other, although according to several witnesses, he was in the town of Fitzgerald on the night of Oct. 22, which was the night of the annual Sweet Potato Festival and beauty pageant that Grinstead had attended. According to authorities, Grinstead had left the pageant and gone to have dinner at the home of the former local school superintendent and his family. She was last seen around 11 p.m.

Ok Harper was in the area on October 22

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/1105/0201_tara_grinstead_relationships.html

murdershewrote

11-03-2005, 11:19 AM

OK, here's my theory...since we don't have much to go on. It's been reported that folks in town knew she had a new bf (or was seeing someone new), so maybe the old bf hears of it, gets insanely jealous, goes over to talk to her. Looks like small skirmish, with lamp being cracked and clock under the bed, but nothing major. So seems to me she knew the person because she let him get close enough to her.

Since there was no blood, etc. found in the house, at least that we know of, he must have either suffocated her, or took her out of the house alive. Maybe he talks her into going somewhere with him, so she takes her purse and keys.

But, here's one problem, neighbors saw or heard nothing...and they seem to be pretty involved (nosey, in a good way) neighbors. Not a car starting up late that night, voices, or anything unusual. If they always notice her light being on, I think they would be aware of any unusual activity.

So somehow, somebody got her out of the house, alive or dead, without anybody hearing anything. Of course, based in plenty of other cases, we know this can and does happen.

What do you all think?

goldylocks

11-03-2005, 01:09 PM

Right now i'm not sure what i think of this case but i'm wondering could she have maybe run off by self?

goldylocks

11-03-2005, 01:11 PM

sorry by herself.

Elle_Woods

11-03-2005, 04:00 PM

I'm not so sure I would deem 9 months ago as 'recent'. Plus, from everything I've read, she was the one most distraught over the break-up..not the bf.

The person could have found a way to get into her house and been hiding out in her room.

If someone had come by to visit her and she voluntarily let them in, I wonder why the neighbors didn't notice anyone else there? Another car in the driveway, etc? Since they seem to know everything, down to when she turns her light on/off.

murdershewrote

11-03-2005, 05:12 PM

what's the scoop on the latex glove...I haven't heard anything about that?

concernedperson

11-03-2005, 06:21 PM

From what I have read about this case she seemed a little upset that her relationship went south. It doesn't seem that this long term boyfriend felt the same way about her. Hence, the breakup.

Now, this young man with some sort of obsession with her is interesting. I heard he was banging on her door and the cops were called. Sounds like he wanted attention. Also sounds like she didn't want to give him the attention he required.This would be my prime suspect if I were a cop vs. an amateur. Also, I would delve further into her more recent romance with another cop, could be she wasn't as interested as he was. Just playing all the angles....don't know diddly squat.

Babes

11-03-2005, 08:23 PM

Some witnesses said Harper is in the area that night as well ... will it be possible that Harper is probably already involve with another girl and Tara is fighting for it and the new found love of Harper is jealous of her and nagging Harper about Tara so Harper gets rid of her? Harper got a key also in the house.

If the former student is responsible for this then i would think he will leave a mark on the house...

What if the Policeman that Tara dated got jealous when he saw Harper that night in the event? Tara vanished without much informations left so responsible party is probably aware how to make someone disappear without any traces

:(

Babes

11-03-2005, 08:29 PM

Tara's former boyfriend of six or so years, Marcus T. Harper, has declined interviews on the advice of his lawyer, according to his father, Larry.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/1105/0302_tara_grinstead_publicity2.html

Now he got a lawyer :read:

Babes

11-03-2005, 08:34 PM

Hmmm just found out that Tara got a dog

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/1105/0302_tara_grinstead_publicity.html

Most likely this dog is in the backyard so if this is the case then anyone aside from Tara coming in the house will pass by the Door not unless of course the Dog knows that person...

mrman

11-04-2005, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by goldylocks
Right now i'm not sure what i think of this case but i'm wondering could she have maybe run off by self?

That runaway bride will haunt all missing women from now on.:punch: to the runaway bride

concernedperson

11-05-2005, 11:29 AM

I just read something over at scaredmonkeys that Tara's sister had recently learned of an argument over an 18 yr. old that Harper was dating. It appears Tara threatened to tell the girls parents. Blog caution applies of course but has anyone else heard about this?

crazyhorse

11-05-2005, 03:56 PM

wow-if that IS true then Harper would be a very big suspect in tara's disappearence. He has lawyered up and is not talking, was in the area that night. He has a key to her home, she would willingly go with him, he (if the story about him&18yo is true) has a motive, he has police and special service training to cover up a crime........................

also-the former student is another possibility. But somehow I feel he would have left telltale clues, sloppy scene at the house. Maybe he had someone call tara for help, tara left her home or went outside to assist a friend in need and was grabbed....................

current boyfriend? who knows, not much said about this guy. but that latex glove really is suspicious in regards to someone intent on covering up clues, someone like a person in law enforcement. Also, could have been an absolute stranger/stalker no one knows about. just my speculation. I hope and pray tara is found safe and quickly!

Babes

11-06-2005, 07:47 AM

Originally posted by concernedperson
I just read something over at scaredmonkeys that Tara's sister had recently learned of an argument over an 18 yr. old that Harper was dating. It appears Tara threatened to tell the girls parents. Blog caution applies of course but has anyone else heard about this?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/04/earlyshow/main1010700.shtml

Yes it is stated on the news at cbsnews and tara's sister said that

fsbiii

11-06-2005, 10:14 AM

I agree. Getting a lawyer doesn't always mean "Guilty of something," it sometimes means "Help me before they crucify me!" Remember Richard Jewell and the Atlanta bombing?

As Tara's former b/f he was gonna be in the scope on this from the start, so I think he's playing it safe, especially if he's cooperating with questions, etc.

Has the alleged 18-year-old girl Harper was supposedly dating been asked any questions?

crazyhorse

11-06-2005, 10:50 AM

It was just my speculation on Harper retaining an attorney. He most likely did it for his protection, since he would naturally be the first person looked at.

dalma3604

11-07-2005, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by Adrienne37
Kvickers - are you from the area where Tara is missing from?

I was wondering the same thing. Kvickers are you close to the investigation/area/Tara?

murdershewrote

11-07-2005, 01:02 PM

what's wrong with him dating an 18 year old...she would be of legal age. Is she still in high school, that's why the rumor about telling her parents? That seems a little thin for a reason to commit murder.

joanne

11-07-2005, 04:43 PM

Everyone is concerned and committed to finding Tara and it sad that all of this has happened, but honestly it is ridiculous how rumors become fact when a tragedy occurs.
About this 18 year old, Marcus was never "dating" her. She was interested in him and he never had a "relationship" with her. He is a good man who just happened to be part of Tara's past. Apparently Tara did get upset about this girl being interested in Marcus, but it was irrelevant when there was no relationship to be upset about. Marcus's life is very stressful and the way I see it he was just not ready to get married and there is no crime in that. It is better than getting trapped into an unhappy relationship that you just have to divorce your way out of later.
It is upsetting that people jump to conclusions without having all of the facts and only knowing half of the story.
Marcus is smart to have a lawyer, justice is not always perfect and innocent people have been wrongly imprisioned before. While it is rare, I understand and would want to protect myself and family as well.

fsbiii

11-07-2005, 05:58 PM

I agree 100%, Joanne. For every fact there have been 25 rumors, but that's what happens in these situations, unfortunately. I believe a lot of people are trying to help analyze and speculate with what's out there, and it's not much. Hopefully something will break and lead us to Tara.

Babes

11-07-2005, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by joanne
Everyone is concerned and committed to finding Tara and it sad that all of this has happened, but honestly it is ridiculous how rumors become fact when a tragedy occurs.
About this 18 year old, Marcus was never "dating" her. She was interested in him and he never had a "relationship" with her. He is a good man who just happened to be part of Tara's past. Apparently Tara did get upset about this girl being interested in Marcus, but it was irrelevant when there was no relationship to be upset about. Marcus's life is very stressful and the way I see it he was just not ready to get married and there is no crime in that. It is better than getting trapped into an unhappy relationship that you just have to divorce your way out of later.
It is upsetting that people jump to conclusions without having all of the facts and only knowing half of the story.
Marcus is smart to have a lawyer, justice is not always perfect and innocent people have been wrongly imprisioned before. While it is rare, I understand and would want to protect myself and family as well.

So you mean to say that Anita was a liar? What is Marcus alibi that weekend? Where is this 18 years old on the time of Tara's Disappearance? People are really not jumping to conclusions what you see on the board are pure speculations . If Marcus has nothing to do with this then LE will tell. I wonder what's your proof that Marcus never dated an 18 year old girl? Are you with him the whole time?

joanne

11-07-2005, 07:31 PM

Whooo turbo, no one at any point in time called anyone a liar. I merely stated that there was an 18 year old interested in Marcus and he did not share the sentiment, but Tara was still upset that anyone look in marcus's direction. They did discuss the girl but it was earlier this summer and he thought it was pointless since there was no relationship to discuss.
There is a possibility that Tara told her sister of this from her "point of view" which in the case of the 18 year old girl, may not have been complete factual hearsay.
It is ridiculous to ask if I am with Marcus every minute, so I guess you got me there. However does the fact that my husband has been with him since Mid-July to mid-sept literally every day pretty much every minute make you feel better? According to everything I have every heard about this relationship, marcus was sad to call it off, but he felt driven to serve our country rather than marry. He would never want anything bad to happen to her.

Babes

11-07-2005, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by joanne
Whooo turbo, no one at any point in time called anyone a liar. I merely stated that there was an 18 year old interested in Marcus and he did not share the sentiment, but Tara was still upset that anyone look in marcus's direction. They did discuss the girl but it was earlier this summer and he thought it was pointless since there was no relationship to discuss.
There is a possibility that Tara told her sister of this from her "point of view" which in the case of the 18 year old girl, may not have been complete factual hearsay.
It is ridiculous to ask if I am with Marcus every minute, so I guess you got me there. However does the fact that my husband has been with him since Mid-July to mid-sept literally every day pretty much every minute make you feel better? According to everything I have every heard about this relationship, marcus was sad to call it off, but he felt driven to serve our country rather than marry. He would never want anything bad to happen to her.

makes me feel better? lol why dont you go public and correct the media for this since the Media is starting to give Harper a bad name. Look anybody can post in this forum and say their husband is with him the whole time but since you want people to know the truth then i suggest to contact the Media or LE and tell themyour side. No one is going to believe you on this forum specially if you dont have any LINK at all LOL Ask the Moderator if she will allow factual informations on this board without providing a link. As far as i know Anita went public and you dont so Anita's words is more credible that you are. Nobody wants to put Harper in hot water and nobody wants to hear someone is responsible for this.As far as i know we want to hear Tara is alive and she left on her own and she's there somewhere.

joanne

11-07-2005, 09:32 PM

I am not worried about people believing me, people can think whatever they want to. I just like to give another view point. I don't go public or to the media, because there is no "my side". Mr. Harper is taking care of things on his end and cooperating with authorities that is all he can do right now. I just feel compelled to defend him when he is compared to Scott Peterson.................who wouldn't?
I feel for her family and am praying for all of them. And hopefully it will turn out that she just needed time away or something harmless.

Babes

11-07-2005, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by joanne
I am not worried about people believing me, people can think whatever they want to. I just like to give another view point. I don't go public or to the media, because there is no "my side". Mr. Harper is taking care of things on his end and cooperating with authorities that is all he can do right now. I just feel compelled to defend him when he is compared to Scott Peterson.................who wouldn't?
I feel for her family and am praying for all of them. And hopefully it will turn out that she just needed time away or something harmless.

I understand your concern.
But your viewpoints comes with informations that can be treated as fact if it is proven like your husband is with him the whole time and you mentioned that Marcus was never dating this 18 year old woman. Gosh if i have a friend who is in trouble and i knew what is right then for all means ill be telling the whole world hey my friend never dated an 18 year old girl as being discussed publicly...But that's just me and everyone is different. :seeya:

joanne

11-07-2005, 09:48 PM

........and about the LINK thing, all of this is new to me and to be honest I have never been on a forum before due to lack of time. However I am concerned about this case since Mr. Harper is a friend of the family, so excuse me if I haven't correctly linked something, I will look into it and fix the problem asap.

Babes

11-07-2005, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by joanne
........and about the LINK thing, all of this is new to me and to be honest I have never been on a forum before due to lack of time. However I am concerned about this case since Mr. Harper is a friend of the family, so excuse me if I haven't correctly linked something, I will look into it and fix the problem asap.

Sure. We'll be here :seeya:

joanne

11-07-2005, 09:54 PM

If Marcus's lawyer thought that the 18 year old was relevant then that is why he gets paid the big bucks, to make those decisions, and he will instruct Mr. Harper to do so. However, Marcus is not being charged with anything therefore he has the right to leave his personal buisness and rumors about his personal buisness a mystery, and I suspect he will do so unless the authorities deem it necessary to make his personal life public record.

Babes

11-07-2005, 10:05 PM

Originally posted by joanne
If Marcus's lawyer thought that the 18 year old was relevant then that is why he gets paid the big bucks, to make those decisions, and he will instruct Mr. Harper to do so. However, Marcus is not being charged with anything therefore he has the right to leave his personal buisness and rumors about his personal buisness a mystery, and I suspect he will do so unless the authorities deem it necessary to make his personal life public record.

Marcus as a policeman should know what is the best thing to do ;)

joanne

11-07-2005, 10:39 PM

He did the right thing, have you even been watching Fox news?

Babes

11-07-2005, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by joanne
He did the right thing, have you even been watching Fox news?

Yes. Just couple minutes ago with Greta :)

joanne

11-07-2005, 10:48 PM

Okay then please consider that interview my link, since it is roughly just a repeat of what I have said the entire night.

Babes

11-08-2005, 04:50 AM

Originally posted by joanne
Okay then please consider that interview my link, since it is roughly just a repeat of what I have said the entire night.

Can you tell why he isnt facing the camera while talking?

joanne

11-08-2005, 09:55 AM

I can only assume he is not facing the camera to do what he can to protect his security clearance which is related to his job.
I am sure it was a suggestion of his lawyer or company.

11-08-2005, 10:01 AM

Does anyone know if the cops checked the trunk of her car? Might sound crazy, but I can't help but remember those three little boys somewhere up north who suffocated. Whenever people go missing, I always wonder why folks don't automatically check trunks of cars just in case.
Could be that someone hid out in Tara's house, suffocated her and stuffed her in her own trunk. That would take care of anyone finding her out there somewhere.
Just a guess.

joanne

11-08-2005, 10:04 AM

No because there is no "trunk" it is a truck.

Former Juror

11-08-2005, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by Hey Paula

Tara drove a truck?

Nope. They showed her car on Greta last night. Maybe joanne was referring to Harper's vehicle, thinking someone was suggesting he put her in his trunk. :confused:

gilligan

11-08-2005, 11:58 AM

I just noticed that Marcus Harper was a former Army Ranger. IMO he would be able to certainly know how and where to hide a body that would never be found...

Not saying that he is guilty, but he is certainly suspicious. MOO
:eek:

dalma3604

11-08-2005, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by joanne
Okay then please consider that interview my link, since it is roughly just a repeat of what I have said the entire night.

Joanne, If you are stating something as a fact. You should provide a link. I believe it is in the terms of service for this message board. If you do not have a link, you should post IMO (in my opinion), IMHO (in my honest opinion), etc. People have been banned for posting information without a link. Just an FYI.

crazyhorse

11-08-2005, 12:36 PM

Like TG, I ALWAYS lock my car doors at all times, even tho I live in the middle of no-where, literally! But, I leave my purse, phone, ect.. in my car. At my home, which is very rural/secluded, and anywhere I drive my car. If it was found unlocked by someone close to me, they would instantly know something IS NOT RIGHT. So, I am definately thinking TG didnt go off anywhere to be 'alone' or run off by herself for whatever reason, that I am just not buying. I honestly believe foul play is involved here even tho I wish that werent the case.

Joanne-please take a chill pill. This forum is great, filled with a lot of intelligent minds with a wide variety of opinions, no criticizing ANYONE for thier beliefs please.

murdershewrote

11-08-2005, 02:23 PM

That thought came to me also...about being pregnant. That's about the only thing I could think of that would put both of them in a highly emotional state. Don't mean to start any false rumors....this is just a reasonable idea about why this may have happened.

joanne

11-08-2005, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by dalma3604

Joanne, If you are stating something as a fact. You should provide a link. I believe it is in the terms of service for this message board. If you do not have a link, you should post IMO (in my opinion), IMHO (in my honest opinion), etc. People have been banned for posting information without a link. Just an FYI.

Thanks I will keep all of that in mind, I have never done a forum before.........normally don't have time. But this deals with friends of the family and so I am involved.
I will use the IMO and IMHO in the future. My problem was more that there is no link for a personal conversation. How can I link things that you did not video record. Someone wanted a link because I said that Marcus never dated the 18 year old and that it was just an aquaintence...........how do I know that? because it was discussed w/ Marcus before any of this happened and he said that there was no relationship but Tara was mad anyway. My proof can not be documented, it was a conversation with a friend.

Babes

11-08-2005, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by joanne

Thanks I will keep all of that in mind, I have never done a forum before.........normally don't have time. But this deals with friends of the family and so I am involved.
I will use the IMO and IMHO in the future. My problem was more that there is no link for a personal conversation. How can I link things that you did not video record. Someone wanted a link because I said that Marcus never dated the 18 year old and that it was just an aquaintence...........how do I know that? because it was discussed w/ Marcus before any of this happened and he said that there was no relationship but Tara was mad anyway. My proof can not be documented, it was a conversation with a friend.

Like what ived said anyone here can post and pretend Marcus friend, family or even girlfriend if you cant prove it then keep it to yourself because you dont want the moderator to start asking for links on your statements

joanne

11-09-2005, 04:27 PM

Hey JF, thanks man for the back up. I already explained that the camera was at a weird angle to protect his job. And I don't really know if they want like a group photo of me in a group with Harper or how I can prove to them that we run in the same circle, but I am not worried about it. I appreciate the rebuttle from you though. I have been very leary to mention exactly what he does because it is one of those things we all just know not to mention. I am sure that you know this, but please keep the companies name out (which I am sure that you already know) just to keep other contractors and the company safe from the media.
have a good one!

Babes

11-09-2005, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by JohnsFlame(r)
*****

I don't get the bickering. If you don't believe she is a friend, then ignore her. It's really that simple.

Why would you care what the moderator (if anything) would say to her?

:confused:

JF

So anyone can post and talk about that "factual things"without proof or links on here now? Sure i will create 10 names on this board and tell them i am the 18 years old gf of Marcus and tell people we dated and blah blah blah or how is that gonna mess up the conversation here ? I dont spend my time here to talk to people trying to pretend who knows the factual things without a proof

Babes

11-09-2005, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by JohnsFlame(r)

In the interview, Harper — who was shot in profile reportedly in part as a safety precaution because of his job as an independent contractor who has worked in Iraq — challenged Internet reports that he and Grinstead had argued publicly just days before her disappearance, an argument which allegedly centered on women Harper was said to have been seeing. He said that he had last seen Grinstead about 9 a.m. on Oct. 14 when the woman, who by all accounts was deeply distressed over their breakup — turned up at his house. Harper said that Grinstead had threatened to commit suicide, though after a short interruption in the taping, Harper added that Grinstead had returned later that day and asked him for a hug, apparently indicating that it would be the last time.

Link to Reason for Camera Angle (http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/1105/0902_tara_grinstead_search_complete_probe_continue s1.html)

But his pictures are posted at crimelibrary - but hey you could tell that his appearance changed from crimelibrary's picture and now. I think Greta should have done just a Phone interview if this will secure his job more.

joanne

11-09-2005, 05:52 PM

Babes,
What do you want? A photo? A promise? What? How can I prove to you that we are friends since you seem determined that I have nothing better to do with my time than make up fake crap to deter a civil investigation. Yes, Marcus looks very very different than those photos, some of them are 10 years old, some are about 5 years old. Regardless, the interview angle did do a good job of not giving his current appearance away. Honestly, his job requires annonimity (spelling) and I think Greta was very respectful of that.
I would like to put your mind at ease that I am not simply creating a false friend for Mr. Harper, just tell me how I can help you.
I have not posted any direct facts and it seems that you are only upset when I say that Marcus has told me something or that I know something to be the situation in the past.
I would like to establish credibility by you so you can move on from this obvious bump in the road for you.

Babes

11-09-2005, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by joanne
Babes,
What do you want? A photo? A promise? What? How can I prove to you that we are friends since you seem determined that I have nothing better to do with my time than make up fake crap to deter a civil investigation. Yes, Marcus looks very very different than those photos, some of them are 10 years old, some are about 5 years old. Regardless, the interview angle did do a good job of not giving his current appearance away. Honestly, his job requires annonimity (spelling) and I think Greta was very respectful of that.
I would like to put your mind at ease that I am not simply creating a false friend for Mr. Harper, just tell me how I can help you.
I have not posted any direct facts and it seems that you are only upset when I say that Marcus has told me something or that I know something to be the situation in the past.
I would like to establish credibility by you so you can move on from this obvious bump in the road for you.

Look i am not the only poster who told you here that you cannot post factual informations without a LINK and proof. You dont have to prove it to me my dear. I am just letting you know about it. You posted
a "fact" that Marcus didnt date this 18 year old girl but Anita is saying differently on her interview. As far as i know no one in the media not even Harper or his attorney is saying he never dated an 18 year old girl. You might know him personally ok but if you are refuting Anita's information then you should prove it here with a verifiable link

Babes

11-09-2005, 06:11 PM

Babes

11-09-2005, 06:18 PM

FYI

"They had had a very bad argument, I just found out, several days before she went missing, concerning an 18-year-old that he was dating. My sister did not think that (the 18-year-old's) parents would approve of a 30-year-old dating an 18-year-old. I'm told that she threatened to tell the parents, and they had a very heated argument over this."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/04/earlyshow/main1010700.shtml

joanne

11-09-2005, 06:32 PM

"They had had a very bad argument, I just found out, several days before she went missing, concerning an 18-year-old that he was dating. My sister did not think that (the 18-year-old's) parents would approve of a 30-year-old dating an 18-year-old. I'm told that she threatened to tell the parents, and they had a very heated argument over this."

Okay so you are saying that because her sister told the media that Tara told her this, then it must be a FACT.
But when I say that Marcus told a group of friends months ago that there was an nice 18 year old girl from his town interested in him, but that they would just stay aquaintences because she was too young for him, it is not a FACT because I am not on TV?

Just hear me out: you can call it a theory if it makes it correct "forum chat" It is a very small town............ word got to tara by a friend that an 18 year old was interested in Marcus..........she blew it out of perportion because she loves him so much and the thought that someone else could want what she still considered hers really angered her................ when she asked marcus about it he kind of laughed it off because there was no reason to be so upset.........this angered her more.........she threatened to tell the girls parents and he argued once again that there was not relationship to tell about but that she could do what ever she wanted.......................( he goes to work for a couple months) and then comes home to the same accusations from Tara and once again blows her offs..........she talked to her sister and told her about the small town gossip; still very distraught about the possibility of losing him, not to his job, or lifestyle, but to a different girl.
Okay that is my side of what happened. Since I can not document it you are welcome to call it My Theory.........K?!

Babes

11-09-2005, 06:35 PM

I think you dont get what am trying to say LOL

Hey welcome to Court TV Board :D

But thanks for your "Theory"

FYI: Media isnt equal FACT. But on this board your "factual statement" must comes with a verifiable LINK and if you cant provide it add "IMO" to your statement ;)

yummers59

11-09-2005, 08:51 PM

I mistakenly posted this in the Theory and Speculation thread.

"It's important to keep in mind, for every rapist, kidnapper, murderer out there, there has always been, at the least, one person defending them as a person who "could have never done this", "was such a great family man", "wouldn't hurt a flea"........these are important things to keep in mind, but not important enough to exclude that person from being looked at as a possible suspect. If we exluded every suspect who had someone defending them in such a manner, everyone in prison would be walking the streets!"

With that in mind, I think people have a right to discuss and theorize what might have happened. Maybe not knowing a person makes it easier for us to look at all the possibilities...I can understand being too close to someone to want to "not believe someone is capable of any wrongdoing". I can agree with you that MH for instance is one of the most upstanding citizens, but that doesn't mean that he is automatically off the hook for being someone that should be looked at.

Babes

11-09-2005, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by yummers59
I mistakenly posted this in the Theory and Speculation thread.

"It's important to keep in mind, for every rapist, kidnapper, murderer out there, there has always been, at the least, one person defending them as a person who "could have never done this", "was such a great family man", "wouldn't hurt a flea"........these are important things to keep in mind, but not important enough to exclude that person from being looked at as a possible suspect. If we exluded every suspect who had someone defending them in such a manner, everyone in prison would be walking the streets!"

With that in mind, I think people have a right to discuss and theorize what might have happened. Maybe not knowing a person makes it easier for us to look at all the possibilities...I can understand being too close to someone to want to "not believe someone is capable of any wrongdoing". I can agree with you that MH for instance is one of the most upstanding citizens, but that doesn't mean that he is automatically off the hook for being someone that should be looked at.

well said :beer:

11-09-2005, 09:22 PM

When the police investigate anything where there might be a victim, the close associates of that victim are the first to come under the spotlight. The three men whose names have been mentioned, of course, are going to be subject to scrutiny by the police and speculation by the media and the rest of us. That's a tough row to hoe for them and their families. Even tougher for Tara's family because they are living the nightmare of a daughter/sister missing and enduring speculation about her character, as well.

Oh, well... it's the information age and most of us are information junkies, whether we want to admit it or not.

As for Marcus Harper... I've been gone from there for a long, long time so either kvickers or joanne might be able to clarify this. I don't know Marcus but the media has identified his father as "Larry". If that's who I think it is, his father did or does work for a prominent lawfirm. And I can assure you, as a mother, if my son were ever dragged into the arena of public speculation because of something like this, the first thing I would do would be get him a lawyer. Even if he had an alibi so tight it squeaked, there would be an attorney looking out for his interests. Period. If Marcus' dad is the Larry I'm thinking of, it would be his first reaction, too.

joanne

11-10-2005, 04:26 PM

Question? Does anyone know or know how to find out if and one else from surrounding area towns has been missing since that weekend to? I can't imagine that Tara would ever hurt her family, but it's safe to say that it is a possibility that maybe she ran off with someone to get away from her overwhelming emotions dealing with marcus. It does sound like a strech, I am just wondering if there is a way to find that out.

joanne

11-10-2005, 04:36 PM

One Aspect of the Search for Tara Grinstead Has Been Completed, But the Probe Continues

by Seamus McGraw

"All of the men have been cooperating with authorities and none have been named as suspects. Although her family and many of her friends believe she was abducted, with no significant clues to Grinstead's whereabouts or condition, authorities don't even know whether a crime has been committed. But that hasn't dulled the buzzing speculation on the Internet and on cable television news channels, speculation that has begun to turn this once close knit community into a hotbed of suspicion where gossip and innuendo — often inaccurate — are frequently traded as fact."

IMO- I think that if someone else is involved, It is someone that no one really even knew that she knew.

I am glad Mr. McGraw finally said what alot of us have been thinking and reminded us that none of these men are suspects, just people involved in her life.

11-13-2005, 09:10 PM

The idea about the potential perpetrator knowing how to make someone disappear without a trace is pretty interesting. You make a valid point. There doesn't seem to be many clues so it could lead one to believe that the perpetrator knew how to move someone or their body without leaving any clues. The clock, lamp, and necklace are pretty interesting, however.
:shrug:

IBC

11-14-2005, 08:33 PM

I find it very strange that Tara would abandon her dog and cat. For a single person that's akin to abandoning a child. Anyone know who's taking care of them now?

murdershewrote

11-15-2005, 04:41 PM

Any leaks on the latex glove...forensics on that should be back by now:shrug:

I don't know...leaving a glove out there for all to see seems a little obvious to me.

Babes

11-15-2005, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by murdershewrote
Any leaks on the latex glove...forensics on that should be back by now:shrug:

I don't know...leaving a glove out there for all to see seems a little obvious to me.

Exactly but we have no news about it yet.
GBI and LE are very quiet on this case.
Tara'sborthday passed already ( Last November 14, 2005 )
And she is still missing.

joanne

11-17-2005, 04:20 PM

If it was someone who knew tara well, he/she would not need gloves because their prints would already be in her house or on her car.

longcoolwoman

11-17-2005, 05:03 PM

I'm wondering if the glove even had anything to do with Tara's disappearance. Like Joanne said, if someone who knew Tara did something to her, their prints would more than likely already be in her house and car and they wouldn't need gloves.

But I would like to know if the glove was even used. I have gloves like that. When you wear one and take it off, it generally is turned inside out. They can be removed without doing so, but it's not the easiest thing in the world.

So, was the glove turned inside out or not? Someone in the middle of a crime wouldn't stop to carefully pull off gloves. They would rip them off quickly, I would think. If that glove was used in a crime against Tara, it would be turned inside out.

Babes

11-17-2005, 06:45 PM

They should have the results on the Glove . It's almost 4 weeks now.

NancynNC

04-05-2006, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by joanne
Hey JF, thanks man for the back up. I already explained that the camera was at a weird angle to protect his job. And I don't really know if they want like a group photo of me in a group with Harper or how I can prove to them that we run in the same circle, but I am not worried about it. I appreciate the rebuttle from you though. I have been very leary to mention exactly what he does because it is one of those things we all just know not to mention. I am sure that you know this, but please keep the companies name out (which I am sure that you already know) just to keep other contractors and the company safe from the media.
have a good one!

I know joanne has been gone quite a while. Maybe she is back using a new name. She talks like he does have a job and what company is she talking about??

NancynNC

04-05-2006, 02:21 AM

Originally posted by Candace
[QUOTE]Originally posted by NancynNC

I know joanne has been gone quite a while. Maybe she is back using a new name. She talks like he does have a job and what company is she talking about?? [/QUOTE

Some type of contracting... She seems very sure MH didn't have anything to do with it..I'm not so sure...I do think he was dating the 18 yr old...I also think he was obsessed with Tara..He was in town the nite she disappeared, had a key to her home. Did he also have a key to her car?

I think there is something to this 18 year old girl story. They seemed to argue about it a lot. What I wonder is, why did Tara threaten to tell her parents? Her parents must be "somebody" big or "somebody" close that it would really hurt MH or hurt her parents. We have not heard that Tara threatened to punch her or pull her hair out, like most girls do. She was threatening to hurt MH by telling...IMO

NancynNC

04-05-2006, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by Candace

I don't know...the girl was old enough to date MH...Maybe she is very sheltered....the parents knew MH was older, and wouldn't approve of them dating...Still sounds odd. I would think Tara would have called the girl up and tell her how she felt w/o involving her parents.

Maybe, just maybe, Tara's threat was not just about dating. Maybe MH and this girl did something they wanted no one to know and Tara found out.

oldyeller

04-05-2006, 05:38 PM

i won't ask you to say who told you that but can you tell what football games he was seen at? dates. teams playing?

oldyeller

04-05-2006, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by Sassy

Sorry, didn't get all the details.

will you please? it would help a lot.

oldyeller

04-05-2006, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by Sassy

Don't have a link but of course he was seen at football games with her on his arm.

i have asked 3 people who go to every ocilla football game and none of them ever saw him there with her. was it another football team? mayeb i am asking the wrong question?

oldyeller

04-05-2006, 07:32 PM

i am trying to find out about the 18 yr old girl that sassy said was at football games with MH. i didn't ask for a link just the games he was at or the date so i could ask some people about it. someone said that the 18 year old girl was who tara was mad at him about so it might be important or might not. is he dating this girl now?

frznwsalt

04-05-2006, 09:50 PM

If Tara's 30, wouldn't MH be at least 30? That alone would be enough to piss some parents off. (And of course, if he started seeing her before she was 18, that would be something else.) I was wondering if he lives with his parents, and she lives with hers. And if so, if they had ever gone to the vacant house for privacy.

concernedperson

04-05-2006, 09:58 PM

Originally posted by Candace

Hi Sassy,
The teachers may know, as you say, also the students who attended the games..One thing I can think of that would tempt Tara to tell his parents, is if the girl was pg.. It had to have been something big to tell his parents..imo

Or if it were something that could harm the girl...drugs, possibly. Afterall,Tara was devoted to her students and all young people and would more than likely be appalled and upset if that were the case.

NancynNC

04-05-2006, 11:26 PM

One of the local people said it was the football game on Friday night before the Sat. that Tara went missing.

I think about the girl, it had to be more than dating. And it surely was not formally dating if her parents did not know. It must have been sneaking around. But I think there is definitely something there. IMO

fsbiii

04-06-2006, 07:49 AM

2005 Varsity Football Schedule

Aug 5 Cook (Scrimmage) Adel
Aug 12 Dodge (Scrimmage) Ocilla
Aug 19 Open
Aug 26 Turner County Ashburn
Sept 2 Tift County Tifton
Sept 9 Atkinson County Pearson
Sept 16 Jeff Davis (Honoring '75 team) Ocilla
Sept 23 Bacon County Alma
Sept 30 Appling County (Homecoming) Ocilla
Oct 7 Charlton County Folkston
Oct 14 Pierce County (Senior Night) Ocilla
Oct 21 Brantley County Nahunta
Oct 28 Fitzgerald Ocilla

Oct 21 was an away game in Nahunta, GA (92 miles from Ocilla). Did Tara go? Was MH + girl there?

Atok

04-06-2006, 11:20 AM

And wasn't the 10/14 the same date MH gave for the last time he saw Tara ? That date sticks in my head for some reason.

suzee

04-06-2006, 12:50 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,174968,00.

The greta interview with MH says he saw her last on October 14th. We must stick to this and not say other wise unlses someone is going to back it up. Please note it as a rumor or Your opinion. MH has stated to Greta the GBI the Local LE and in his polygraph this was the last date he saw Tara. These I know to be backed up statements and not hear say, IMOO, or rumors. Just trying to help. I will defend others to if they can't back up what they say about others.... Let's try to keep this board positive.