Hildybrant/Grand Jury

[suzeq71]

I have been keeping up with Hildybrants posts (see thread "Hildybrant/Darkevilgoth") and I see that she's been subpoenad to testify in front of the Grand Jury on Wednesday.

Anyone else hear anything about this? Anyone care to speculate on this?

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by suzeq71
I have been keeping up with Hildybrants posts (see thread "Hildybrant/Darkevilgoth") and I see that she's been subpoenad to testify in front of the Grand Jury on Wednesday.

Anyone else hear anything about this? Anyone care to speculate on this?

They're still investigating.

That's what the Multi-Jurisdictional Grand Jury does. Investigate crimes.

When they're done investigating they can indict and not have to deal with a preliminary hearing. (If they do indict)

It's a good way of keeping things under wrap until (if) a trial comes around.

[Hey Paula]

I know from Hildybrant's journal entries that she appears to adore BF. She went to his apartment after LE searched it and cleaned it.

LE took her laptop, cell phone and underwear. Perhaps BF used some of her personal effects.

She contacted parties to arrange for her to visit BF in jail.

At this time, I am thinking that the Honda Civic car keys, which appear on BF's search warrant, might be those belonging to her car.

I think Hildybrant knows BF very well, and that is likely why she was summoned to appear before the Grand Jury.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by Hey Paula
I know from Hildybrant's journal entries that she appears to adore BF. She went to his apartment after LE searched it and cleaned it.

LE took her laptop, cell phone and underwear. Perhaps BF used some of her personal effects.

She contacted parties to arrange for her to visit BF in jail.

At this time, I am thinking that the Honda Civic car keys, which appear on BF's search warrant, might be those belonging to her car.

I think Hildybrant knows BF very well, and that is likely why she was summoned to appear before the Grand Jury.

That's just small part of it. People who didn't know Ben Fawley are being ordered to appear before the Grand Jury.

They are investigating Taylor's death. Not Ben Fawley. There is a difference.

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


That's just small part of it. People who didn't know Ben Fawley are being ordered to appear before the Grand Jury.

They are investigating Taylor's death. Not Ben Fawley. There is a difference.

A grand jury convenes to review evidence, presented by the Pros, to determine if there is probable cause to indict.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by Hey Paula


A grand jury convenes to review evidence, presented by the Pros, to determine if there is probable cause to indict.

Sorry, but not this Grand Jury.

It is the Multi-Jurisdictional Grand Jury. They are an investigative grand jury.

They were specially setup in the Commonwealth to investigate drug crimes but it was expanded to include other crimes a few years ago.

Our regular grand jury does exactly as you state. But not the one they're using.

http://www.co.henrico.va.us/com-atty/mjgj.htm

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by AvengingAngel


Hello BFD,

Curious, what happens if someone gets caught lying to the Grand Jury?

Do you know what the penalty is?

Just curious....

Perjury. 1 to 10 years in the Commonwealth.

[molly1]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


Sorry, but not this Grand Jury.

It is the Multi-Jurisdictional Grand Jury. They are an investigative grand jury.

They were specially setup in the Commonwealth to investigate drug crimes but it was expanded to include other crimes a few years ago.

Our regular grand jury does exactly as you state. But not the one they're using.

http://www.co.henrico.va.us/com-atty/mjgj.htm

Thanks for explaining that.

I was kind of horrified to hear no preliminary hearing.

That seems very unfair to the defendant, not to mention the public.

But, if this was set up for investigating drug crimes, they would want to handle the investigation in secrecy.

I guess we should ask ourselves--why the need for secrecy--hmmm?

IMO

[molly1]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


Perjury. 1 to 10 years in the Commonwealth.

Can you plead the 5th amendment in front of this Grand Jury?

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by molly1


Can you plead the 5th amendment in front of this Grand Jury?

Sure you can. If you receive an subpoena you have already met the burden of being "compelled" to testify.

Now, whether they can charge you with obstruction or not is a darn good question.

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


Sorry, but not this Grand Jury.

It is the Multi-Jurisdictional Grand Jury. They are an investigative grand jury.

They were specially setup in the Commonwealth to investigate drug crimes but it was expanded to include other crimes a few years ago.

Our regular grand jury does exactly as you state. But not the one they're using.

http://www.co.henrico.va.us/com-atty/mjgj.htm

Can it be that because the place of Taylor's murder hasn't been determined, it became necessary to use a Multi-Juristictional GJ, since Richmond and the place where Taylor's body was found are in different juristictions?

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by Hey Paula


Can it be that because the place of Taylor's murder hasn't been determined, it became necessary to use a Multi-Juristictional GJ, since Richmond and the place where Taylor's body was found are in different juristictions?

No. It was being used before Taylor's body was found.

My take on it is that someone wasn't cooperating with the investigation, so they used the MDGJ to compel them to cooperate in the investigation.

I think someone mentioned tonight that they would be waiting for the Mathews Grand Jury to convene before charging Ben Fawley, but that is unnecessary. All that has to happen is for the Mathew's County DA to join in on the MDGJ and the indictment will be done right there in that grand jury. No need for a separate one.

It's a very unique tool they have at their disposal. I think it's an excellent strategy. But it was being used before they ever found Taylor's body. It streamlines the whole process and reduces redundancy in the system. It will also negate the publicity caused by a preliminary hearing that could cause a problem with requests for venue changes (due to Mathews small jury pool).

I think they're right on target with this strategy.

[MaxwellSmart]

TY BFD, I thought this was the same one they set up previously, I remember ppl were getting "squirrelly" on them.
I realize they are investigating Taylor's death - but - did Hildybrandt have any other connection to Taylor aside from Ben Fawley?
I'm confused on pleading the 5th, unless it would implicate themselves, which I would think they could then be offered a plea for any insignificant charges, I would think they would be in contempt as they would not be fulfilling the requirements of the subpoena? Plz note, I don't understand half the legal details, so I'm just wondering how that does work.
jmo