Abbreviated Timeline

[BFD - v2.0]

Timeline of Events from various sources:

September 4, 2005 - Taylor Behl logs into LiveJournal account for the last time while in Vienna, Virginia

September 5, 2005 6:45 pm - Taylor calls her father to say she's arrived in Richmond.

September 5, 2005 7:00 pm to 9:30 pm - Jake states Taylor was assisting with an art project and they ate dinner at the Village Cafe. Walked Taylor back to her dorm.

September 5, 2005 8:45 pm - Kevin states Taylor sought him out and told him she was going to do something "highly illegal".

September 5, 2005 9:44 pm - Taylor receives a phone call from an unnamed male that has been questioned.

September 5, 2005 9:30 pm - Ben Fawley states he walked Taylor back to her dorm.

September 5, 2005 10:20 pm - Taylor's roommate stated Taylor left to give her privacy.

September 6, 2005 5:00 am - The time Ben Fawley states he was abducted.

September 6, 2005 4:30 pm - Ben Fawley reports abduction and robbery to the Richmond PD.

September 7, 2005 1:00 am - Taylor's roommate reports her missing to the VCU PD.

September 15, 2005 - Search warrants executed at the following locations:
Taylor's Dorm
Ben Fawley's residence
Taylor's home in Vienna

September 17, 2005 - Taylor's Ford Escort is found by an off-duty police officer.

September 18, 2005 12:30 am - Sheppard Street address is searched. Location that the scent dog tracked a second scent from Taylor's car.

September 18, 2005 - Jesse Schultz's apartment is searched. (2 blocks from the Sheppard Street location)

September 19, 2005 - Jesse Schultz arrested for possession of cocaine.

September 19, 2005 - Sheppard Street location was broken into.

September 19, 2005 11:30 pm - Jesse Schultz's mother's house is broken into.

September 19, 2005 - Nissan Altima impounded.

September 21, 2005 - Taylor's belongings removed from her dorm by family attorney George Peterson.

September 23, 2005 - Ben Fawley arrested on child pornography charges. Second search warrant executed.

September 28, 2005 - Richmond PD requests assistance locating a vehicle that used the Virginia license plate "GRN ERTH".

October 5, 2005 - Taylor's body is found in Mathews County Virgina.


The conflicting time events are posted in red.

I haven't seen a short and to the point timeline with contradictions exposed, so I thought it would be a good idea.

Please add or correct anything that may be needed.

[Hey Paula]

If Jake and Taylor left the Village Cafe after 8:45PM, which should be easy to verify from the restaurant's receipts, then Kevin's account is inaccurate.

IMO

[marabeth]

"Something not right"

Thank you BFD .. perhaps CW or HW can make it a sticky! It is so much more concise. I appreciate your effort!

[Researcher]

BFD, Excellent! Thanks for taking the time to put this together. Don't know if you might want to add an additional point re Kevin and Ben. 9/8, Th, Kevin says when he heard about T's disappearance, he went to LE to tell them about skateboarding w/ T and another skateboarder. Kevin also reported to meet Fawley "for the 1st time" when Fawley, after somehow hearing about T's skateboarding with Kevin and 2nd male, then somehow located Kevin where K worked and asked K if he knew where T was and where BF could find the younger skateboarder.

That's my verbose version which, if you think the above might be helpful, I'm sure you can condense...something I'm retarded about. Of course, all the above may have been discounted along the way by somebody. Hard to retain this fluctuating field of he-saids-she-saids....plus, it's late and I'm developing brain fog.

[marabeth]

The skateboarding took place Saturday night into the early morning before Taylor went home to spend Sunday with her mom..Kevin says after dinner with Jake ,Taylor sought him out about 8:45 and said she was going to do something illegal.

Fawley says he walked her back at 9:30 pm on Sunday night ..Not much time between 8:45 talking to Kevin , going to Fawley's and his returning her to the dorm at 9:30 IMO.

Of course Jake also states he walked her back to the dorm about 9:30..leaving two people who claimed to walk her back at 9:30 and another who says Taylor sought him out and he spoke to her at 8:45...

Tis a puzzle..Sometimes the media gets things wrong and it is only at trial we learn the facts. Sometimes people get times wrong,.

Of course whatever happened to her that led to her murder happened after 10 when she left to give her roommate privacy.

[Bluprint]

I'm telling you Kevin is a friend of Ben's. How do you seek someone out late at night? I could hardly walk around my small college campus looking for my roommate, let alone some acquaintance. "Okay umm dumdeedum, unless Kevin knows me and knows Ben... hmm, what point would it be to tell him I'm going to do something illegal?" Why not tell her roommate? Why not tell the front desk? Hell, call up Jake and tell him. If Kevin didn't know her he'd be thinking, "this crazy girl just told me she's going to..." WTF?

Stop analyzing and just figure out the doggone puzzle. It's been in front of our eyes the entire time. BEN AND KEVIN ARE LYIN'!!! Taylor was a healthy girl... 135 lbs is heavy to me and seeing how skinny Mr. Bones is, he couldn't lift her up w/o help. Unless he dragged her. Leaving a trail.

I'm over it.:punch:

[Bluprint]

Rest in peace beautiful Taylor Marie Behl. I'm sorry for going Scooby Doo on your tragedy.

:rose:

[molly1]

Originally posted by Bluprint
I'm telling you Kevin is a friend of Ben's. How do you seek someone out late at night? I could hardly walk around my small college campus looking for my roommate, let alone some acquaintance. "Okay umm dumdeedum, unless Kevin knows me and knows Ben... hmm, what point would it be to tell him I'm going to do something illegal?" Why not tell her roommate? Why not tell the front desk? Hell, call up Jake and tell him. If Kevin didn't know her he'd be thinking, "this crazy girl just told me she's going to..." WTF?

Stop analyzing and just figure out the doggone puzzle. It's been in front of our eyes the entire time. BEN AND KEVIN ARE LYIN'!!! Taylor was a healthy girl... 135 lbs is heavy to me and seeing how skinny Mr. Bones is, he couldn't lift her up w/o help. Unless he dragged her. Leaving a trail.

I'm over it.:punch:

Kevin said Taylor was hanging with a 'tough crowd.'

Well, how we he know that unless he knew the 'crowd.'

A crowd is more than one person.

IMO

[molly1]

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ap/1005/0501_behl_bombshell.html



Kevin and Taylor had met four times in total. They were really acquaintances rather than friends



His impression of Taylor was that she was a "straight arrow, normal girl that had her act together, but she was running with a rough crowd." He also characterized her as "very trusting."



Kevin said that he went to the VCU police Thursday to tell them about skateboarding with Taylor Saturday night and what she told him the night she disappeared. That same day, Kevin met Ben Fawley, Taylor's amateur photographer friend, for the first time. Fawley had learned about the skateboarding with Taylor and approached him at his place of work. He wanted to know if Kevin knew where Taylor was and where he could find Kevin's skateboarding friend who had been with him Saturday night.

When I asked Kevin what he meant by "running with a rough crowd," he was referring to Fawley. Kevin was shocked when Fawley told him he had an intimate relationship with Taylor. "It was like she was leading a second life," he told me.

[molly1]

This is so odd.

Ben seeks out Kevin, saying he wants to talk to his skateboarding friend.

That means that Taylor told him who she was skateboarding with.

Taylor told her mother she was skateboarding with Jesse and Ian that Saturday.

Was Ben looking for Jesse and Ian?

It also means that Taylor did talk to Ben after she returned from the weekend. Because Taylor went directly home after skateboarding on Saturday night. She wouldn't have had a chance to talk to ben after that unless she saw him on Monday.

So, question: On the face of it, it sounds like Taylor saw Ben on monday and told him she was going skateboarding. After she didn't show up, he went looking for the skateboarders.

[Researcher]

1. Kevin and Ben obviously know each other.

2. Something is odd here, too: a) the reason T reportedly left her dorm was because roomie had a boyfriend over so T decided to leave to give them privacy-that's unplanned -sounds like T had returned planning on staying there; but then b) T reportedly left room saying she; planned on skateboarding with 3 guys. Either she had plans or she didn't. Does my puzzlement puzzle anyone else? Upon seeing her roomie was busy, did she suddenly decide she was going to seek out 3 guys to skateboard with? How would she know they'd be around if it's 10:30pm and if there were no prior plan?

3)Ben made sure he had in his whole story to LE include that he had leant T a skateboard; Ben always has an alibi that includes all aspects of what happened, even the dirt on him, on the car's undercarriage, his DNA that might be found on T, etc..

4) The only way discrepancies make sense to me is if Ben and others had plans...while T in reality had none. They set her up. They had a plan that may or may not have included skateboarding. Has LE asked the public, "Did anyone see T skateboarding 9/5 around 10:30pm-1:30am or so? If so, where, with whom, when, etc. " If they haven't asked that recently (I think they did in the very beginning), then it sounds like they don't buy any stories about skateboarding.

5)Who the heck was roomie's boyfriend and has he been cleared?

[molly1]

Originally posted by Researcher
1. Kevin and Ben obviously know each other.

2. Something is odd here, too: a) the reason T reportedly left her dorm was because roomie had a boyfriend over so T decided to leave to give them privacy-that's unplanned -sounds like T had returned planning on staying there; but then b) T reportedly left room saying she; planned on skateboarding with 3 guys. Either she had plans or she didn't. Does my puzzlement puzzle anyone else? Upon seeing her roomie was busy, did she suddenly decide she was going to seek out 3 guys to skateboard with? How would she know they'd be around if it's 10:30pm and if there were no prior plan?

3)Ben made sure he had in his whole story to LE include that he had leant T a skateboard; Ben always has an alibi that includes all aspects of what happened, even the dirt on him, on the car's undercarriage, his DNA that might be found on T, etc..

4) The only way discrepancies make sense to me is if Ben and others had plans...while T in reality had none. They set her up. They had a plan that may or may not have included skateboarding. Has LE asked the public, "Did anyone see T skateboarding 9/5 around 10:30pm-1:30am or so? If so, where, with whom, when, etc. " If they haven't asked that recently (I think they did in the very beginning), then it sounds like they don't buy any stories about skateboarding.

5)Who the heck was roomie's boyfriend and has he been cleared?

I agree with you that Taylor meant to stay home when she returned to the dorm. My reading of it is that when she left at the request of the roomate, she was going to go to a spot where she knew the skateboarders congregated, for a 'pickup game.'

Did she go to Ben's first to borrow a skateboard?

My question is why would Ben go hunting for Taylor? He is doing this with no expectation that anyone would ever hear about it. He goes and finds the person that he knows is one of the skateboarders. I don't know how he knew where to find him but Ben lives there, and Taylor must have given him names the same way she gave her mother names. But, he is not looking for Kevin but for the guys that Kevin skateboarded with. One of those was Jesse according to Taylor's mother. Is this the same Jesse whose aunt's house was at the end of the dog's trail?

I don't know that we could conclude that Ben and Kevin know each other. But I do find it strange that Kevin refers to a 'crowd.' That implies he knows the Goth group that hangs with Ben. Or maybe it's just a strange manner of speaking.

The more we learn about this case, the more convoluted it becomes. It would be helpful to have last names lol.

IMO

[Researcher]

Hi, Molly. Convoluted, indeed...twisted. A mirror of Fawley's psyche. You ask, "My question is why would Ben go hunting for Taylor?" Stalking. Like he basically stalked Erin, probably many others. Reptile stalking his prey.

[molly1]

Originally posted by Researcher
Hi, Molly. Convoluted, indeed...twisted. A mirror of Fawley's psyche. You ask, "My question is why would Ben go hunting for Taylor?" Stalking. Like he basically stalked Erin, probably many others. Reptile stalking his prey.

No I mean why would ben go hunting for Taylor after she went missing if he killed her and dumped her in Mathews?

It would be one thing to make a public show of looking for her, but his trip to Kevin's work was private. He hunted down Kevin to ask about Kevin's two skateboarding friends and how to find them. In other words, he thought they might have been involved in Taylor's being missing.

This happened on Thursday after she went missing, and the earliest he would have heard from the police about it would have been Wednesday.

So by thursday, he is doing his own investigative work to find her.

IMO

[BFD - v2.0]

The most intriguing thing so far are the burglaries connected with Jesse Schultz's relatives.

These were targeted. Not random. Someone was looking for something very specific. His aunt even stated she felt it was the police because of the focused "search" in a focused area of the house.

Then Jesse's mother's house is broken into. Someone knew they were looking for something specific. All of the break-ins occurred after Jesse was arrested and within a 24 hour period. His family attributed them to the police, the police attributed them to possibly being the work of a private detective (another sign that it was a very focused search of the residences)

What did Jesse have that someone wanted? And if they were an accomplice of Jesse's, (wanting to get rid of "whatever" they were searching for) why both houses?

Some will probably attribute the burglaries to Ben Fawley. I find it unlikely at this point it was him. For a couple of reasons:

1. Ben Fawley's house had already been searched by the police. He was already a person of interest. He was most likely under surveillance at that time.
2. No burglary charges have been filed at this time.

But something else that occurred around this time is the fact someone turned a gun over to an attorney and stated they had two witnesses to state Ben Fawley had been in possession of it at some point. Who's attorney turned in the weapon? And more importantly, where was the weapon at before given to the attorney?

There is much more to this story than just Ben Fawley in my opinion.

[harris513]

Originally posted by molly1


No I mean why would ben go hunting for Taylor after she went missing if he killed her and dumped her in Mathews?

It would be one thing to make a public show of looking for her, but his trip to Kevin's work was private. He hunted down Kevin to ask about Kevin's two skateboarding friends and how to find them. In other words, he thought they might have been involved in Taylor's being missing.

This happened on Thursday after she went missing, and the earliest he would have heard from the police about it would have been Wednesday.

So by thursday, he is doing his own investigative work to find her.

IMO

ok was he searching for Taylor or was he searching for the skateboarders (that sold her or him drugs, the something illegal she was going to do)????

[molly1]

Originally posted by harris513


ok was he searching for Taylor or was he searching for the skateboarders (that sold her or him drugs, the something illegal she was going to do)????

He was searching for the skateboarders that Taylor was with Saturday night.

I am assuming she told him on Monday about this because how else would he find out about it?

It wasn't until Wednesday that anyone even knew she was missing.

If he did lend her a skateboard on Monday, then he would know she would be leaving his house to find her skateboarding buddies.

When she went missing, he went looking for them.

IMO

[harris513]

Molly.

interesting thought I'm of the believing she went missing sunday though, as she seems to have been a social butterfly and noone has stated seeing her after 2230ish on sunday.

a time of death i guess would help us all clear up some of timeline thoughts and ideas.

If ben did see her monday why not say so???? or is his time conception that far out???

there have been alot of questions of his time frame memory on these boards

[molly1]

Originally posted by harris513
Molly.

interesting thought I'm of the believing she went missing sunday though, as she seems to have been a social butterfly and noone has stated seeing her after 2230ish on sunday.

a time of death i guess would help us all clear up some of timeline thoughts and ideas.

If ben did see her monday why not say so???? or is his time conception that far out???

there have been alot of questions of his time frame memory on these boards
Oh I thought she went missing on Monday. She went missing on Sept 5, right? My calendar says that's a Monday. It was labor day weekend--a three day holiday, right? So she returned to school on Monday.

No one claims to have seen her after 1030pm on Monday, as far as we know.

I think that's right.

IMO

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by harris513
Molly.

interesting thought I'm of the believing she went missing sunday though, as she seems to have been a social butterfly and noone has stated seeing her after 2230ish on sunday.

a time of death i guess would help us all clear up some of timeline thoughts and ideas.

If ben did see her monday why not say so???? or is his time conception that far out???

there have been alot of questions of his time frame memory on these boards

She was in Vienna on Sunday.

The 5th was Monday. Her roommate is the very last known person to admit to seeing her. 10:20 pm, Monday, September 5th.

[harris513]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


She was in Vienna on Sunday.

The 5th was Monday. Her roommate is the very last known person to admit to seeing her. 10:20 pm, Monday, September 5th.

THANKS my bad,
shows i should be asleep

[Bluprint]

Originally posted by molly1 I agree with you that Taylor meant to stay home when she returned to the dorm. My reading of it is that when she left at the request of the roomate, she was going to go to a spot where she knew the skateboarders congregated, for a 'pickup game.' Did she go to Ben's first to borrow a skateboard?


Now listen, I can't even glide 4 ft on a skateboard but I still own 2 boards. If Taylor liked boarding all that much, how come she's borrowing people's stuff? Boards aren't expensive. I know Ben's fibbing about the skateboarding story as is Kevin. Just because you meet someone only 4 times doesn't mean you don't know them. Ben said a whole bunch of times in his journals that the town was small and everyone knew everyone. This isn't like basketball where you can run to the park and find someone with a ball. :rolleyes:

I've always had a hard time believing Miss Taylor wanted to go skateboarding without a board. As a matter of fact, the neighbor kids always asked to borrow my boards and I was like, "loser... here, just have it!"

Fishy, fishy, fishy... besides, you can't tell me that Ben walks her home (1 mile) and then turns around and walks back (another mile, alone). Uhh no! Ben was probably still hanging around outside with his friends, saw Taylor and was like, "what happened?" She gives him the 411 on LoveDrunk Emma and he's like, "let's go somewhere then..." and Kevin goes too! That's the "we" slip Ben made in the interview.

She was totally the only one in his myspace that wasn't waifish or gothy. I know because we shared friends and I'd been to his page; she had Skulz, Skulz had Staggering, Staggering had some OregonGirl and OregonGirl had me. I think her death was an accident and he was too scared to do anything about it. Remember the "Taylor looked cold" statement when he was lensing her on Belle Isle? He cared about this girl and took her under his wing. Even in his lying, he supposedly cares about her. He could've said she left his apt and that's the end of that. Why have further involvement? And why meet Daddy? :shrug:

I mean shoots, 10 years later and my parents still haven't met my husband! Kidding! :tongue:

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by Bluprint


Now listen, I can't even glide 4 ft on a skateboard but I still own 2 boards. If Taylor liked boarding all that much, how come she's borrowing people's stuff? Boards aren't expensive. I know Ben's fibbing about the skateboarding story as is Kevin. Just because you meet someone only 4 times doesn't mean you don't know them. Ben said a whole bunch of times in his journals that the town was small and everyone knew everyone. This isn't like basketball where you can run to the park and find someone with a ball. :rolleyes:

I've always had a hard time believing Miss Taylor wanted to go skateboarding without a board. As a matter of fact, the neighbor kids always asked to borrow my boards and I was like, "loser... here, just have it!"

Fishy, fishy, fishy... besides, you can't tell me that Ben walks her home (1 mile) and then turns around and walks back (another mile, alone). Uhh no! Ben was probably still hanging around outside with his friends, saw Taylor and was like, "what happened?" She gives him the 411 on LoveDrunk Emma and he's like, "let's go somewhere then..." and Kevin goes too! That's the "we" slip Ben made in the interview.

She was totally the only one in his myspace that wasn't waifish or gothy. I know because we shared friends and I'd been to his page; she had Skulz, Skulz had Staggering, Staggering had some OregonGirl and OregonGirl had me. I think her death was an accident and he was too scared to do anything about it. Remember the "Taylor looked cold" statement when he was lensing her on Belle Isle? He cared about this girl and took her under his wing. Even in his lying, he supposedly cares about her. He could've said she left his apt and that's the end of that. Why have further involvement? And why meet Daddy? :shrug:

I mean shoots, 10 years later and my parents still haven't met my husband! Kidding! :tongue:

Who said Taylor had a skateboard in Richmond with her? I don't recall anyone confirming it one way or the other.

Ben didn't live a mile from Taylor's dorm. More like 6 blocks. (And that's if they didn't walk through the park and just took the streets.)

Ben was a big boy with his own apartment. If he wanted to do drugs or drink of "whatever", he didn't need to go out in the country. He could just shut his front door.

[Bluprint]

I know BFD! I say she was chilling @ his apt for a few hours and maybe he gave her a spider bite laced with some oxycontin and it sent her over the edge? Hell, she could've taken some TrimSpa with gin and passed out. He's such a monkey, what if she wasn't dead when he put her in a plastic bag? And like Erin said... her cells just like ringing next to her...

My daughter made a bird feeder during vacation Bible school one year and filled it with birdseed. Well, we forgot about it on the patio and a month ago we smelled something "bad" coming from that direction. We didn't investigate, we just kept the french doors shut. I went to sweep out all of our leaves in preparation for fire season (I'm in California) last week and guess what I found? A dead bird! That thing had died and looking back... I think it only smelled for like 2 weeks top! With a bag over her and mild Virginia temps, Taylor's body would still be "fresh" after 3 weeks. Avg temp here is 76 F.

Wrong thread huh?

[BevAnn]

I agree - she looked to stay AT THE DORM, not to leave the rest of the evening, then had a change of plans at the last minute due to roomy - so she may have said - hey, i'm just gonna go ride some boards with a couple guys. As she walked out the door. But I would def say she didn't have pre-arranged plans to do so. Maybe she knew where they hung, and decided she'd walk down there and check out the scene - and if they weren't there, no biggy, she's killed time and can walk back to her room, giving roomy enough time to finish up.

Did she need a board to go on this last minute outing - I say not necessarily. She was basically going to hang. And I can easily see her doing so, grabbing a board from a guy that's taking a break or whatever....I dont think it was so much about the actually boarding, as it was about just hanging out, wasting time for her roomy's sake.

I also say - Fawley had met her along the way BEFORE she went into the dorm and spoke to her. I say he asked her to go with him somewhere and she declined. He hangs around - and accidentally sees she's leaving the dorm and follows her, mad that HE THINKS she's lied to him about being tired and wanting to got to bed. (just a guess) Which she DIDN'T lie, roomy made her change her plans, BUT BF doesn't know this....so he gets jealous mad.

As far as BF knowing about her skating Saturday night - she could have easily told him Monday evening if/when she saw him OR they could have spoke by phone???? on sunday or monday??

And last - I can NOT see more than BF involved - I've entertained Jesse being involved for awhile, BUT, there is no WAY this group of guys, would not have ratted each other out by now. No way. Oh, and the thing about her being 135 and him so skinny - this is true, but adrenaline will help you accomplish all KINDS of things!


JMHO
Bev Ann

[singlesix]

"If he wanted to do drugs or drink of "whatever", he didn't need to go out in the country. He could just shut his front door."

Heck, in that neighborhood he could probably get away with doing it on the front porch. ;) I know it's improved some over the years, but not all that much.

singlesix

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by Bluprint
I know BFD! I say she was chilling @ his apt for a few hours and maybe he gave her a spider bite laced with some oxycontin and it sent her over the edge? Hell, she could've taken some TrimSpa with gin and passed out. He's such a monkey, what if she wasn't dead when he put her in a plastic bag? And like Erin said... her cells just like ringing next to her...

My daughter made a bird feeder during vacation Bible school one year and filled it with birdseed. Well, we forgot about it on the patio and a month ago we smelled something "bad" coming from that direction. We didn't investigate, we just kept the french doors shut. I went to sweep out all of our leaves in preparation for fire season (I'm in California) last week and guess what I found? A dead bird! That thing had died and looking back... I think it only smelled for like 2 weeks top! With a bag over her and mild Virginia temps, Taylor's body would still be "fresh" after 3 weeks. Avg temp here is 76 F.

Wrong thread huh?

Always possible. But it's just as possible she was abducted off the street from other people who knew her (since we are speculating)

The thing is that Kevin and Jake contradict each other's accounts without Ben. Just take Ben completely out of the picture for a second. As if he didn't exist. Jake's and Kevin's recollections do not mesh. How did she hunt down Kevin when she was supposedly with Jake?

I don't know about this bag I keep reading about. Do you have a link to something saying she was found in a bag? (And how were her remains scattered about if she was in a bag?)

The temps were not "mild". We were in the high 80's and 90's for almost the whole month of September, with high humidity. There were even days it was near 100. In temperature and humidity like that, I would imagine there was very little tissue left.

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


Always possible. But it's just as possible she was abducted off the street from other people who knew her (since we are speculating)

The thing is that Kevin and Jake contradict each other's accounts without Ben. Just take Ben completely out of the picture for a second. As if he didn't exist. Jake's and Kevin's recollections do not mesh. How did she hunt down Kevin when she was supposedly with Jake?

I don't know about this bag I keep reading about. Do you have a link to something saying she was found in a bag? (And how were her remains scattered about if she was in a bag?)

The temps were not "mild". We were in the high 80's and 90's for almost the whole month of September, with high humidity. There were even days it was near 100. In temperature and humidity like that, I would imagine there was very little tissue left.

Remains Found In Plastic Bag (http://www.wric.com/Global/story.asp?S=3948726&nav=menu28_6)

Excerpt:

The scene is in a remote area of Mathews County about three tenths of a mile off Knight's Wood Road. Sources close to the investigation say Taylor was found in a ravine along a dirt road. Her decomposed body found wrapped in a plastic bag with her remains scattered around.
Investigators don't know how long she had been there.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by Hey Paula


Remains Found In Plastic Bag (http://www.wric.com/Global/story.asp?S=3948726&nav=menu28_6)

Excerpt:

The scene is in a remote area of Mathews County about three tenths of a mile off Knight's Wood Road. Sources close to the investigation say Taylor was found in a ravine along a dirt road. Her decomposed body found wrapped in a plastic bag with her remains scattered around.
Investigators don't know how long she had been there.

Thanks. It would seem WRIC is becoming the next KABC. They're the only ones reporting certain information.

[BevAnn]

BFD - I have been looking and looking - can NOT find any reference to a garbage bag or plastic bag....

Bev ann

Edit: Never MIND! Before I could finish posting this - you guys DID find a link!! :read:

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


Thanks. It would seem WRIC is becoming the next KABC. They're the only ones reporting certain information.

You're welcome.

A plastic bag was also mentioned on TV, during the first report of Taylor's body having been found. IIRC, on FNC.

[TN_Profiler]

Think Ben and Kevin are clearly lying. I also think they are lying for 2 different reasons.

I think Kevin was/is trying to cover his drug tracks with lies.

I think Ben is was/is trying to cover his murder tracks with lies. (and the worst alibi in history)

Did you happen to notice the alibi was concocted to account for semen, dirt, injuries, and timeline? Oh, and he even was nice enough to help point the police in the direction of Erin. I find it terribly ironic that his fued with Erin finally bit him in the pants when she helped police locate the property in which Benny-boy disposed of Taylor. How fitting.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by TN_Profiler
Think Ben and Kevin are clearly lying. I also think they are lying for 2 different reasons.

I think Kevin was/is trying to cover his drug tracks with lies.

I think Ben is was/is trying to cover his murder tracks with lies. (and the worst alibi in history)

Did you happen to notice the alibi was concocted to account for semen, dirt, injuries, and timeline? Oh, and he even was nice enough to help point the police in the direction of Erin. I find it terribly ironic that his fued with Erin finally bit him in the pants when she helped police locate the property in which Benny-boy disposed of Taylor. How fitting.

What makes you link Kevin up with drugs? Do you think Kevin is the one that broke into the homes associated with Jesse Schultz?

And why did he approach the police? They didn't go to him, he went to them.

Sounds to me like Kevin is average Joe citizen and was doing what he could to help out. They had no way to know about Taylor going to Kevin, other than through Kevin.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by AvengingAngel


And don't forget the credit card. IMO that's the whole reason he had to sit down and think out an alibi. He knew they'd discover that he purchased gas with his cc at a location between Richmond and the farm..

Bf wrote before about being attacked. Does anybody know if he bothered to file a police report that time?

Yes. After a friend of his told him to. He wasn't going to go to the police, but the friend kept insisting, so he went later that afternoon.

[TN_Profiler]

I am not sure why but I am only speculating a reason. Thanks for calling me to the carpet on that.

I just haven't had an impression that Kevin is involved with her murder. I don't have any facts or basis for that, it is just my gut feeling.

If I am going to be impartial I guess he could simply have his time wrong (not everyone is a clock watcher).

[TN_Profiler]

I am glad you mentioned the gas purchase. If he used his credit card/debit card .... he will have a very hard time explaining that. Especially if it is on a road that is used to get to Mathews.

If he paid cash .... my guess is that he used $40!!! I am sure the police have looked at how much gas is in her car. It would be easy enough to link her useage and her last fill up before returning to Richmond. I doubt her call would be on "full" after the 1 1/2 hour drive. Benny-boy probably gave it little thought and filled it up.

I will be looking forward to this trial just to see how many stupid mistakes he made. My thoughts are with the criminologists, police, and District Atty who are tasked with putting all the pieces together in order to prosecute a slam dunk case.

[trich]

Too many on this board are taking it for granted that BF is telling the truth .
He is obviously trying to come up with an alibi.
Or excuses for his being at certain places at certain times.
What I want to know is why when Taylor was last seen on Sept 5
why didt her roomate wait until the 7th to report her missing?

Not that I think the roomate had anything to do with her being missing.
I am convinced that BF is responsibile.

[BevAnn]

Originally posted by AvengingAngel


Is that officially verified? Or is it just something that somebody said?

I sit here and kick around ideas, but the fact is , I don't know s--t.
The police would know for sure if previous reports were filed.


I'm sorry, BFD, but I don't have a shred of doubt that bf is involved with Taylors death. In the real world, if it walks like a duck.......you know what I mean?

In a real life murder, the first thing you do is take a hard look at the people in the victim's "orbit". You do that and Fawley (esp. with his past history of violence against women) just leaps up and slaps you in the face. And the alibi! The story he was forced to create because of the credit card.......if the credit card story is true.

I hope the good guys will win. I hope the bad guy(s) lose. I hope that justice is served............for Taylor's sake.

As for Ben Fawley? Like I said before, the child porn charges are serious indeed. And again: the horrific evil of involving a baby in a porn video boggles my mind. All I have to do is think about holding all my nephews and neices in my arms when they were one years old. I can feel the anger coming back....so I say, on the child porn charges alone, let Ben Fawley rot in prison for the rest of his life!

You know, there are some on here that are just ADAMENT that the porn is not his, it was on the computer left by a tenant (older man) that had recently died and the landlord asked BF to clean out his things. (supposedly) But I have to say, for some reason - I truly do not think that porn is Ben's. I think he is GUILTY of Taylor's murder, oh yeah, but the child porn..no, I don't see him doing that. He had anger issues, and adult fetishes, but nothing else pointed towards children (and I know 17 is still officially a child, but you know what I mean).

I have to say, I believe him when he says the computer wasn't his until recently and he didn't know the pics were on there - BUT that doesn't mean it wasn't his responsiblity to CLEAN THAT HARDDRIVE. He should have done that, becuase now, whether it was his downloads or not, it's his legal issue.

Bev Ann

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by AvengingAngel


Is that officially verified? Or is it just something that somebody said?

I sit here and kick around ideas, but the fact is , I don't know s--t.
The police would know for sure if previous reports were filed.


I'm sorry, BFD, but I don't have a shred of doubt that bf is involved with Taylors death. In the real world, if it walks like a duck.......you know what I mean?

In a real life murder, the first thing you do is take a hard look at the people in the victim's "orbit". You do that and Fawley (esp. with his past history of violence against women) just leaps up and slaps you in the face. And the alibi! The story he was forced to create because of the credit card.......if the credit card story is true.

I hope the good guys will win. I hope the bad guy(s) lose. I hope that justice is served............for Taylor's sake.

As for Ben Fawley? Like I said before, the child porn charges are serious indeed. And again: the horrific evil of involving a baby in a porn video boggles my mind. All I have to do is think about holding all my nephews and neices in my arms when they were one years old. I can feel the anger coming back....so I say, on the child porn charges alone, let Ben Fawley rot in prison for the rest of his life!

First question, Yes. It's been confirmed. I pulled up the police reports myself. The police have publicly confirmed he reported an abduction.

So far as walking like a duck, I agree in part.

BUT... everyone seems to be overlooking a lot of other people that were in Taylor's "orbit". Sure Ben jumps out at you.

But other people jump out at me as well. The media just isn't reporting it. That's the only difference. You only know what the media reports. Doesn't mean that's all there is to it.

I'll admit that I'm leaning towards Ben Fawley being involved. But, I think a lot of people are jumping on the bandwagon of other things to implicate him. Not any specific evidence towards Taylor's disappearance. He's been charged with having child pornography. It's very likely that Ben was unaware of everything on that particular computer, it wasn't his.

Some unknown benefactor gives an attorney a weapon Ben was allegedly in possession of.

Seems to me there is a concerted effort to convict him of "something". Why piddle around with these things if they could charge him with murder?

What concerns me is that they haven't charged him yet. If they had fingerprint evidence or DNA evidence, I think they would have already filed charges. Many, many times during the course of an investigation, you file charges when you have something linking the person to the crime; and you continue investigating after the charges are filed.

This case is a little bit different because he's not going anywhere any time soon, but I personally think they're sweating him out for a confession and he's not obliging.

[BevAnn]

BFD - you stand by your theory there could be others invovled besides Ben - what is your theory? I'm interested to know, because I keep bouncing back and forth between others involved, and Ben acting alone.....

So, I'd like to here your scenario - and I still stand by my point, that if more than one was invovled, they would rat each other out.

Bev Ann

[BevAnn]

Originally posted by AvengingAngel


I've heard both sides. Some say it was his, some say it wasn't.
Some say he knew it was there, some say he didn't.

I don't know, of course, but I would assume somebody like bf knew what was on his hard drives. If I "inherited" a new computer, the first thing I would do is check it over and see whats on it.

And I'll be honest with you Bev, I have a hard time thinking rationally about the child porn involving a 1yr old baby....as has been reported. It really does fill me with a fury. Like I said, I've held 1yr olds in my arms...rocked them to sleep. Imagine! I can look at the face of a sleeping 1yr old and think I'm looking at the most wonderous thing in the universe! Picture it, Bev!

I can't comprehend involving a baby in a porn video. To me this is deadly serious stuff. I'll repeat myself: whoever made that video deserves death. If bf knew about then he deserves life.

It's easy to say "child porn", and then move on. But if you close your eyes and think about a baby...when I do that I go off the deep end!

The evil that people do astounds me.

oh I know! As a parent, I most certainly know how you feel!! Some say he had "inherited" this old man's belongings, and there were lots of things and he just hadn't had time to go through it all. :shrug: Maybe true, maybe false. Knowing how addicted he seems to be to computers/internet, I do wonder that he hadn't looked at the computer. In my book, if he KNEW the porn was on there and didn't erase it immediately then he IS as guilty as the original guy!! And if the old man WAS the downloader - I hope he died a painful death! :flamemad:

Bev Ann

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by BevAnn
BFD - you stand by your theory there could be others invovled besides Ben - what is your theory? I'm interested to know, because I keep bouncing back and forth between others involved, and Ben acting alone.....

So, I'd like to here your scenario - and I still stand by my point, that if more than one was invovled, they would rat each other out.

Bev Ann

I don't have any theory. In fact, the only theory I've ever stated is about Ben. And that theory is nothing more than he's already told the police what happened, he just put his name in place of Taylor's and pointed the finger elsewhere. That's the most logical conclusion at this point barring any unknown evidence.

What is bothering me is the fact people keep jumping to the fact that Ben had a photograph of the site Taylor's body was found. A photograph taken months prior.

Everyone assumes that connection is the deathnail.

Whereas I keep reminding people that Ben is not the only person that was intimate and familiar with that location that was in Taylor's circle of friends.

Come on, we have people talking about wanting to eat flesh and feeling like they were sociopathic. Disemboweling people, etc. Rantings of a college student? Possibly. But I find it disturbing. Even more disturbing is that person grew up in Mathews and knew Taylor.

No one has reported that tidbit of information to my knowledge

So, what I'm saying is that Ben is not the only disturbing individual in this case.

I see a lot of people theorizing motive. (Everyone wants to know why)
Ben Fawley had less motive than others. Far less. At least he was friends with Taylor. She was still talking to him. But can that be said for the other people connected to Mathews?

[BevAnn]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


I don't have any theory. In fact, the only theory I've ever stated is about Ben. And that theory is nothing more than he's already told the police what happened, he just put his name in place of Taylor's and pointed the finger elsewhere. That's the most logical conclusion at this point barring any unknown evidence.

What is bothering me is the fact people keep jumping to the fact that Ben had a photograph of the site Taylor's body was found. A photograph taken months prior.

Everyone assumes that connection is the deathnail.

Whereas I keep reminding people that Ben is not the only person that was intimate and familiar with that location that was in Taylor's circle of friends.

Come on, we have people talking about wanting to eat flesh and feeling like they were sociopathic. Disemboweling people, etc. Rantings of a college student? Possibly. But I find it disturbing. Even more disturbing is that person grew up in Mathews and knew Taylor.

No one has reported that tidbit of information to my knowledge

So, what I'm saying is that Ben is not the only disturbing individual in this case.

I see a lot of people theorizing motive. (Everyone wants to know why)
Ben Fawley had less motive than others. Far less. At least he was friends with Taylor. She was still talking to him. But can that be said for the other people connected to Mathews?

Well, I guess since I have no idea WHO you are referring to that's connected in Mathews, then it's hard to theorize any other story that DOESN'T include BF.

The other people connected to Mathews - are these people we've heard about - Jesse, Ian, Kevin, Jake, or is it some other person/people we don't know about yet??

I know the media can spin and manipulate - but if there are others involved, wouldn't we have heard something about them by now? :shrug: People wanting to eat flesh- where was this mentioned? I'm sorry if I missed something - it's he!! trying to actually do some WORK while following this case!! lol :tongue:

Bev Ann

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by AvengingAngel



I'm sure LE has looked at everybody in Taylor's orbit. Their complete backgrounds. What they were doing on the night in question, etc. Ben just looks bad. His history of violence against women, and his made up story.

What made up story?

The police officers that took his report found him to be credible.

[BevAnn]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


What made up story?

The police officers that took his report found him to be credible.


Oh, come on now BFD, I gotta call ya out on that one. The police found him to be credible?? Maybe until the news of Taylor's dissappearance, but not after that.

Bev Ann

[memap1965]

oh I know! As a parent, I most certainly know how you feel!! Some say he had "inherited" this old man's belongings, and there were lots of things and he just hadn't had time to go through it all. Maybe true, maybe false. Knowing how addicted he seems to be to computers/internet, I do wonder that he hadn't looked at the computer. In my book, if he KNEW the porn was on there and didn't erase it immediately then he IS as guilty as the original guy!! And if the old man WAS the downloader - I hope he died a painful death!


Have the investigators looked at the History on the computer that this old man supposedly left behind? Not that this is even related to what is really going on, but you can look up the original date that it was put onto that computer, you can look up any times a file was modified, you can even find the date of last viewing of said file. Maybe that would dispel any lies or truths to what BF is stating about the porn on that computer. I'm sure they would have to have solid evidence in order to arrest him on charges of pornography.....I would think, anyway.
Anyway, I am new to this board, and don't really know how to add a quote from someone else to my own post. So, forgive me if I have done it wrong. ;)

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by AvengingAngel



BFD! BFD! Are you saying that you believe bf was abducted by "3 or 4" strangers and then beaten and then dropped off near a dirt road and then rescued by a hispanic man and given a ride and bought gas and all that?

If I was coming home one night from the Bar Car, falling down drunk, and then I was abducted by "3 or 4" strangers and taken away to remote location and then picked up later by a hispanic man, even though drunk I would know where I was picked up by the hispanic man! I would have a decent idea anyway! And I would have the hispanic man drive me to the nearest police station. And I would have him come in with me.

The police officer who took his report found him to be credible. I wonder what that very same police officer thinks now?

I don't believe for sure one way or the other. The odds are that it's not true. But life can be strange sometimes.

So, I will not state as a fact that it was made up until proven otherwise. Doesn't mean I don't have an opinion that it's not true.

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by trich
Too many on this board are taking it for granted that BF is telling the truth .
He is obviously trying to come up with an alibi.
Or excuses for his being at certain places at certain times.
What I want to know is why when Taylor was last seen on Sept 5
why didt her roomate wait until the 7th to report her missing?

Not that I think the roomate had anything to do with her being missing.
I am convinced that BF is responsibile.


I, too, am convinced BF is responsible. There are just too much coincidence for him not to be, Here are some of them:

BF claims to have been abducted at around the same time Taylor disappeared.

Taylor's car was found within a mile of her dorm with Ohio license plates and the VIN scratched out. BF collects license plates and BF had previously scraped the VIN off another car in the past.

BF's credit card was used to purchase gas midway between where Taylor was last seen and where her body was found.

BF's appearance is dramatically changed from long blondish hair to black short hair.

The underside of Taylor's car is said to contain substances found in the area where Taylor's body was discovered.

Taylor's body was found nearly 75 miles away, in an area where BF previously took photos, adjacent to Erin Crabill's family's property.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by Hey Paula



I, too, am convinced BF is responsible. There are just too much coincidence for him not to be, Here are some of them:

BF claims to have been abducted at around the same time Taylor disappeared.

Taylor's car was found within a mile of her dorm with Ohio license plates and the VIN scratched out. BF collects license plates and BF had previously scraped the VIN off another car in the past.

BF's credit card was used to purchase gas midway between where Taylor was last seen and where her body was found.

BF's appearance is dramatically changed from long blondish hair to black short hair.

The underside of Taylor's car is said to contain substances found in the area where Taylor's body was discovered.

Taylor's body was found nearly 75 miles away, in an area where BF previously took photos, adjacent to Erin Crabill's family's property.

How was the VIN scratched out?

That's how they knew it was Taylor's car. The police ran the VIN and that's how they determined it was Taylor's car in the first place because of the change of license plates.

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


How was the VIN scratched out?

That's how they knew it was Taylor's car. The police ran the VIN and that's how they determined it was Taylor's car in the first place because of the change of license plates.

According to the FNC report I heard, the VIN was scratched out in one part of the car, but was also elsewhere on the vehicle, and that is how LE knew it was Taylor's car.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by Hey Paula


According to the FNC report I heard, the VIN was scratched out in one part of the car, but was also elsewhere on the vehicle, and that is how LE knew it was Taylor's car.

The only VIN that can be found is through the windshield (someone would have to take the windshield out of that car to deface the VIN), the other easily accessible VIN is on the inside jamb of the driver's side door. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to scratch that one out (which is easily done), because you'd have to be able to open the door to access it.

The other accessible VIN is under the hood (again, someone would have to be able to get inside the car for that one to be accessible)

The car was locked. (Which points to someone who knew the victim)

I find it unlikely they had a locksmith come out and open up a car to determine it was Taylor Behl's. In fact, I would start believing the Stalinist Russia comments if that was the case.

I think FNC is looking for "scoops" and instead of a scooping, they're scraping - the bottom that is.

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


The only VIN that can be found is through the windshield (someone would have to take the windshield out of that car to deface the VIN), the other easily accessible VIN is on the inside jamb of the driver's side door. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to scratch that one out (which is easily done), because you'd have to be able to open the door to access it.

The other accessible VIN is under the hood (again, someone would have to be able to get inside the car for that one to be accessible)

The car was locked. (Which points to someone who knew the victim)

I find it unlikely they had a locksmith come out and open up a car to determine it was Taylor Behl's. In fact, I would start believing the Stalinist Russia comments if that was the case.

I think FNC is looking for "scoops" and instead of a scooping, they're scraping - the bottom that is.

I think another immediate telltale sign was the VA inspection sticker conflicting with the OH plates.

The report distinctly stated that BF had scraped the VIN off another car in the past, and that this one done to Taylor's car, but that the VIN was elsewhere on her car, confirming the vehicle was hers.

I hope I'm not confusing the Dateline Sunday segment about Taylor this week. Perhaps that's where I heard it? In any case, one of the reports definitely stated this.

[Ohdonna]

Originally posted by AvengingAngel



BFD! BFD! Are you saying that you believe bf was abducted by "3 or 4" strangers and then beaten and then dropped off near a dirt road and then rescued by a hispanic man and given a ride and bought gas and all that?

If I was coming home one night from the Bar Car, falling down drunk, and then I was abducted by "3 or 4" strangers and taken away to remote location and then picked up later by a hispanic man, even though drunk I would know where I was picked up by the hispanic man! I would have a decent idea anyway! And I would have the hispanic man drive me to the nearest police station. And I would have him come in with me.

The police officer who took his report found him to be credible. I wonder what that very same police officer thinks now?

I thought the location where BF was dropped off by the driver (this is the first I've heard that it was an hispanic man) was given. some corner near his apt.

Has the driver (hispanic man) come forward? I'm guessing, no.

I'm thinking BF might actually be very sick. not a good grip on reality.

But, how does Jesse figure into this? Was it BF who broke iinto his house....looking for something? Possibly Taylor's necklace ?

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by AvengingAngel


*snipped*

I heard somewhere that the break in might have been by a "private eye" doing his own "investigating". That's a possible theory, I guess.

What private investigator would be breaking into a person of interest's family member's home within 24 hours of the police conducting a search?

And I don't think a lot of people realize it was TWO houses. Jesse's aunt's house and Jesse's mother's house that were broken into.

In my opinion it had to be someone who knew Jesse intimately. No one ever reported his last name. How would someone figure out who his mother was?

Originally posted by AvengingAngel



BFD! BFD! Are you saying that you believe bf was abducted by "3 or 4" strangers and then beaten and then dropped off near a dirt road and then rescued by a hispanic man and given a ride and bought gas and all that?

If I was coming home one night from the Bar Car, falling down drunk, and then I was abducted by "3 or 4" strangers and taken away to remote location and then picked up later by a hispanic man, even though drunk I would know where I was picked up by the hispanic man! I would have a decent idea anyway! And I would have the hispanic man drive me to the nearest police station. And I would have him come in with me.

The police officer who took his report found him to be credible. I wonder what that very same police officer thinks now?

Good post Angel .. and I agree with your other post as well - this story is way too off the charts to be believable.

I'm not sure about Jesse at this point.

And if you ever leave the Bar Car in that condition, I'll make sure r/p drives you home. :read:

O/T probably ..

but have any of you heard anything more about Mr. Behl's girlfriend's son and his relationship with Taylor?

I believe it was in her LiveJournal that I read where she was uncomfortable spending the night at her Dad's because this guy lived there too, and that he creeped her out.

Just struck me as something. I don't know what though.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by AvengingAngel


I didn't come up with that theory, BFD. I believe LE did.

With the intense interest that this case drew, I don't have much problem picturing some pi doing this. And because it WAS a pi, he'd know how to figure out who his mother was.

And like I said, this wasn't my theory. Just something I heard. A possible theory.....

I find it completely implausible.

The first thing is who would they be working for? Who would need a PI in this case? Taylor's parents are the only people I know of. Unlikely in my opinion.

But what tells me it was most likely not a PI is the fact that it was a very focused and targeted break-in. They searched a very specific portion of the house. They didn't search all over the house and rummage through things; they looked in a very specific spot in the house. Someone knew in advance what they were looking for and where it was supposed to be at.

Originally posted by AvengingAngel


I remember that.

Because she wrote that, I would assume that he would be someone that LE already looked closely at. IMO

They'd know his background and his whereabouts that night.

Maybe a little awkward because of Mr. Behl.

Very true. This story really has all the elements, doesn't it Angel? Most tragic thing I've seen in a long time.

[Ohdonna]

Originally posted by AvengingAngel


The officer who took fawley's report said he had been drinking. So lets assume he was drunk. Couldn't have been too drunk - he was going out to take pictures when he was abducted. But lets say he was real drunk. I've had my share of wild nights...I know the feeling. In my worst night, I'd still be able to give the police a thousand times more details than fawley did. The hispanic man would become my new best friend. He would drive me straight to the nearest police station and come in with me. At the very least I'd get his name and number. I would have an excellent idea of where my new best friend had picked me up. And if I suspected that it was the dreaded and hated Erin who was behind the attack, I would be eager to give the cops all the details I could.

Fawley's story now seems so absurd that I get tired of thinking about it. Nobody's heard yet from the hispanic man 'cause he's sitting up there at the north pole with santa.

If jesse has no connection to Taylor, then I'm willing to write off the dog track. Bad tracks happen, I'm told. If it turns out he does have a connection to Taylor, or fawley, then it's harder to write off the track.

I heard somewhere that the break in might have been by a "private eye" doing his own "investigating". That's a possible theory, I guess.

The break-in could have been totally unrelated. could have been a drug person or some such thing.

I agree that the hispanic man (interesting that BF remembers the hispanic detail) is with Santa.

And - why believe the "he was drunk" story. he's full of it.

Maybe Jesse is just someone else that Ben wanted to be.

[Ohdonna]

Originally posted by Rowan Again
O/T probably ..

but have any of you heard anything more about Mr. Behl's girlfriend's son and his relationship with Taylor?

I believe it was in her LiveJournal that I read where she was uncomfortable spending the night at her Dad's because this guy lived there too, and that he creeped her out.

Just struck me as something. I don't know what though.

my step brothers creeped me out. Probably even worse with girlfriend's sons. Normal.

I think BF is a more likely suspect. Or Erin.

[Ohdonna]

Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


I find it completely implausible.

The first thing is who would they be working for? Who would need a PI in this case? Taylor's parents are the only people I know of. Unlikely in my opinion.

But what tells me it was most likely not a PI is the fact that it was a very focused and targeted break-in. They searched a very specific portion of the house. They didn't search all over the house and rummage through things; they looked in a very specific spot in the house. Someone knew in advance what they were looking for and where it was supposed to be at.

and I guess we don't know what the "specific spot" was.

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by AvengingAngel


I find it SOMEWHAT plausible.

Could be wrong, though, BFD. God knows I've been wrong half my life.

Both being skateboarders, I wonder if BF and JS didn't know each other better than either has admitted to? Personally, I suspect they did.

I also wonder if BF could have been the one who broke into JS's family's homes, in an effort to locate something that could tie JS to Taylor's murder. In other words, perhaps BF wanted to frame JS for her Taylor's muder.

Originally posted by AvengingAngel
Row....and BFD...the last info I have is that there was absolutely no connection between jesse and taylor/ben/village.

Does this still stand?

As far as *I* know Angel .. if LE has a connection, they're keeping it tight.

I need to check the timeline for Fawley as far as the breakins at Jesse's. If I'm not mistaken, Fawley was already under surveillance? If he wasn't, then I agree with Paula that it's certainly plausible that he could have done those break-ins to divert attention.

Also .. it's not as if BF isn't familiar with criminal behavior ..

[Ohdonna]

Originally posted by Hey Paula


Both being skateboarders, I wonder if BF and JS didn't know each other better than either has admitted to? Personally, I suspect they did.

I also wonder if BF could have been the one who broke into JS's family's homes, in an effort to locate something that could tie JS to Taylor's murder. In other words, perhaps BF wanted to frame JS for her Taylor's muder.

I posted somewhere else that I thought maybe BF broke into Jesse's house to get something that he knew would implicate - perhaps both of them.

did the police know the significance of the necklace and chain at the time they searched Jesse's house? Could BF have gone in to get that and then disposed of it in the garbage at his house. Because that was found in the second search of Fawley's house - after the search of Jesse's and after the break-in at Jesse's.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by Ohdonna


and I guess we don't know what the "specific spot" was.

In the aunt's house it was a steamer trunk. Not sure about the mother's house.

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by Ohdonna


I posted somewhere else that I thought maybe BF broke into Jesse's house to get something that he knew would implicate - perhaps both of them.

did the police know the significance of the necklace and chain at the time they searched Jesse's house? Could BF have gone in to get that and then disposed of it in the garbage at his house. Because that was found in the second search of Fawley's house - after the search of Jesse's and after the break-in at Jesse's.

I just noticed that in the search warrant issued for BF, LE was asked to search for: Linoleum knives, hammers, shovels, pry bars, screw drivers & any other burglary tools..

Perhaps LE was also thinking BF might have been the one who broke into JS's family's homes.

Search Warrant (http://wwbtads.com/news/fawley/page1.htm)