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BevAnn
10-11-2005, 01:46 PM
"WRIC 8 News is reporting that they have received information saying that Fawley's credit card shows charges for gas in New Kent County on the day that Taylor disappeared. New Kent Conty is between Richmond and Mathews County. "

http://taylorbehl.notagz.com/

ok - some explain - how could this credit card purchase of gas be relevant?


Bev Ann

BFD - v2.0
10-11-2005, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by BevAnn
"WRIC 8 News is reporting that they have received information saying that Fawley's credit card shows charges for gas in New Kent County on the day that Taylor disappeared. New Kent Conty is between Richmond and Mathews County. "

http://taylorbehl.notagz.com/

ok - some explain - how could this credit card purchase of gas be relevant?


Bev Ann

You HAVE to go through New Kent to get to Mathews, unless you're flying through the air.

He surely wouldn't have ridden a bicycle to New Kent and bought gas.

BevAnn
10-11-2005, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


You HAVE to go through New Kent to get to Mathews, unless you're flying through the air.

He surely wouldn't have ridden a bicycle to New Kent and bought gas.


okk....did that answer my question???? I understand not flying, I understand not riding a bicycle....I'm actually smarter than I look. My question is why does him BUYING GASOLINE have relevance to Taylor's murder?

Bev Ann

zonkerharris
10-11-2005, 02:11 PM
It is relevant because he does not own a vehicle. Also this was the day of his early morning abduction. He made it a point to mention that he had the $20 stolen, but that his credit card was not. Seems a little fishy to me.

BFD - v2.0
10-11-2005, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by BevAnn



okk....did that answer my question???? I understand not flying, I understand not riding a bicycle....I'm actually smarter than I look. My question is why does him BUYING GASOLINE have relevance to Taylor's murder?

Bev Ann

:confused:

It shows he was halfway to Mathews or halfway back from Mathews. The location of her body.

He doesn't own a vehicle. So why is he buying gas at all?

We have two choices: It was the gas he bought for the alleged abduction that he told the police. Or it was gas for Taylor's car.

Date and time will be significant.

bugnmissy
10-11-2005, 02:28 PM
didn't he tell police that his abducters made him buy them gas? I know I read it on one of these threads because we were talking that he was setting up his alibi.

BevAnn
10-11-2005, 02:39 PM
aaah! ok, now I see! He didn't have a car - I keep forgetting that little fact - after all the pics of that van, I keep thinking he still HAD the van.

So, he's buying gas .....he conveniently says in his abduction story he buys gas for the mexican guy that "rescued" him, isn't that correct? With the cc, because they took his cash. Boy, he covered all his bases didn't he!? Do we know if the gas station had ANY camera's??


I apologize BFD - you totally threw me off! But now that I remember he had no car, I see what you meant! My bad! ;)

Bev Ann

nibblet
10-11-2005, 02:43 PM
I'm guessing this would be after 11:00 on the night of the 5th or anytime in the early morning hours of the 6th.

Go back to his stories - dirt road (Taylor is found on), plastic bag over his head (remains found in a plastic bag), they had sex (I'm sure it was more he raped her), he used a credit card to help the Hispanic gentleman who picked him up after his "capture" (he used the cc to purchase gas for Taylor's car).

The clues are there - just conveniently twisted and spun for Ben.

:flamemad:

BevAnn
10-11-2005, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by nibblet
I'm guessing this would be after 11:00 on the night of the 5th or anytime in the early morning hours of the 6th.

Go back to his stories - dirt road (Taylor is found on), plastic bag over his head (remains found in a plastic bag), they had sex (I'm sure it was more he raped her), he used a credit card to help the Hispanic gentleman who picked him up after his "capture" (he used the cc to purchase gas for Taylor's car).

The clues are there - just conveniently twisted and spun for Ben.

:flamemad:

Niblett - I agree totally - but I'm going to say, if the statement is correct, and taken in the EXACT wording - then it was the night of the 5th. It says "the day Taylor Behl dissappeared". So, going with that - the time and date stamp on the cc reciept is let's follow your line of thinking - stamped 11:30pm on the 5th...what time did he SAY he was abducted?? Wasn't he vague on that? This little bit of verifyable info (the cc receipt) might just trip him up on his story.

Bev Ann

LT7660
10-11-2005, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by BevAnn
aaah! ok, now I see! He didn't have a car - I keep forgetting that little fact - after all the pics of that van, I keep thinking he still HAD the van.

So, he's buying gas .....he conveniently says in his abduction story he buys gas for the mexican guy that "rescued" him, isn't that correct? With the cc, because they took his cash. Boy, he covered all his bases didn't he!? Do we know if the gas station had ANY camera's??


I apologize BFD - you totally threw me off! But now that I remember he had no car, I see what you meant! My bad! ;)

Bev Ann

:lol:

sorry...i know this is no laughing matter...but this just hit me funny




yes...and with taylor's car having the same dirt that was there at the "burial" site.............hmmmmm

nibblet
10-11-2005, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by BevAnn


Niblett - I agree totally - but I'm going to say, if the statement is correct, and taken in the EXACT wording - then it was the night of the 5th. It says "the day Taylor Behl dissappeared". So, going with that - the time and date stamp on the cc reciept is let's follow your line of thinking - stamped 11:30pm on the 5th...what time did he SAY he was abducted?? Wasn't he vague on that? This little bit of verifyable info (the cc receipt) might just trip him up on his story.

Bev Ann

Bev Ann - I'll have to do some digging back but as I recall, BF claimed he woke up early (Tues, Sept 6) and was walking up Monument as the sun was coming up around 5:00 am --- quite a few people noted that the sun wasn't up that day at 5:00 am... three guys jumped out of a car and put a bag over his head and drove off with him...

but, as with other comments he has made, you can be assured he needed to place himself back in Richmond at 5:00 am. If he thought the body would be found quickly, they could have estimated her death time. He keeps trying to cover his tracks -- being in Richmond at sunrise, using his credit card (yet they stole everything else...), had sex with her (don't get me started), walked her back to her dorm (what a gentleman - more likely he spirited her away from Richmond...), the policeman who took his "abduction" report thought BF had been through something but things were so vague, he couldn't investiget (this is before Taylor is discovered missing)...and so on and so forth....

BevAnn
10-11-2005, 03:44 PM
This is what I am hoping Niblett - that he DID give times on the morning of the 6th - but the cc receipt shows late on the 5th. THAT would be very hard for him to go back and explain.

Which leads me to ANOTHER question - his statement is, he saw her that night, they had sex...remind me (I have a horrible memory!) when was the last time HE Said he saw her?? And what is his story for the rest of the night? Until the supposed abduction? In short - what is HIS time line according to HIM?

Bev Ann

10-11-2005, 03:45 PM
I agree with Nibblett on this one...it all adds up. The alibis he pilled up right from the beginning, abduction, gas, sex w/Taylor, accusing his ex being behind his abduction and then using property that belongs to her family as the crime scene.
The one thing that frightens me is that I can not believe she was his only victim.

singlesix
10-11-2005, 03:49 PM
I wonder which end of New Kent they're talking about.

The western end is fairly close to Richmond and there might be an all-night station on Rt. 60 at Bottoms Bridge. On the east end of the county there aren't but a few stations I can think of on Route 33 between the I-64 exit and the town of West Point. Okay, I just talked to a coworker who was born in West Point and the only all-night station we can think of in New Kent is the 7-11 just south of West Point.

Just pondering the possibilities while I wait for an appointment to show up.

singlesix

10-11-2005, 04:10 PM
What scares me is how convenient all this information is. Generally things that are so pat turn out to be far from it.

BFD - v2.0
10-11-2005, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by Rowan Again
What scares me is how convenient all this information is. Generally things that are so pat turn out to be far from it.

I tend to agree.

He could be a complete idiot. Possibly.

But of course, we don't even know if this information from WRIC is accurate.

I recall all sorts of things being reported in other cases that turned out not to be true.

marabeth
10-11-2005, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by BevAnn


Niblett - I agree totally - but I'm going to say, if the statement is correct, and taken in the EXACT wording - then it was the night of the 5th. It says "the day Taylor Behl dissappeared". So, going with that - the time and date stamp on the cc reciept is let's follow your line of thinking - stamped 11:30pm on the 5th...what time did he SAY he was abducted?? Wasn't he vague on that? This little bit of verifyable info (the cc receipt) might just trip him up on his story.

Bev Ann

He said it was just getting light around 5am..IIRC ..it is not just getting light at that time..He was going out to take pictures, he said ..He blamed his abduction on Erin's friends, who left him on some dirt road. and said he still had his credit card and bought gas for the person(Mexican) who picked him up...(all from memory.)

I am certain the police had bells, whistles , red flags and all that going on over this story once they learned of Taylor's disappearance..Rotten alibi...JMO

nibblet
10-11-2005, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by BevAnn
This is what I am hoping Niblett - that he DID give times on the morning of the 6th - but the cc receipt shows late on the 5th. THAT would be very hard for him to go back and explain.

Which leads me to ANOTHER question - his statement is, he saw her that night, they had sex...remind me (I have a horrible memory!) when was the last time HE Said he saw her?? And what is his story for the rest of the night? Until the supposed abduction? In short - what is HIS time line according to HIM?

Bev Ann

BF claims to have walked Taylor back to her dorm - with his skatebord, in the 9:30 pm timeframe on 9/5. Then I have heard absolutely nothing of his actions until he was abducted.


I have also heard that Jake walked her back after having dinner with her - makes more sense. According to BF, they had sex, picked up a skateboard and walked back to the dorm. In that time, from 6:30 to 9:30, she had to help a friend with an art project, dine with Jake, and the do what BF claims -- lots of action in such a short period...

tamikosmom
10-11-2005, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by bugnmissy
didn't he tell police that his abducters made him buy them gas? I know I read it on one of these threads because we were talking that he was setting up his alibi.

missy, you are correct. I contend that Ben knew that his credit card purchases would be looked into and....he then made up the abduction alibi to justify the gas purchase. I guess he had no choice but to buy gas.....if Taylor's car was running dry. I think that this purchase will do him him. It places him on the way to the location where Taylor was found. Janet. IMO.

marabeth
10-11-2005, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by BFD - v2.0


I tend to agree.

He could be a complete idiot. Possibly.

But of course, we don't even know if this information from WRIC is accurate.

I recall all sorts of things being reported in other cases that turned out not to be true.

BFD..The abduction story is his alibi story IMO ..and he was the one who mentioned the credit card IIRC...

You know criminals are not as smart as they think they are..else we would never solve a murder.

This whole story, the journals, the many blogs , the vulnerability of the young murdered woman just make me weep.

Most young people live to learn lessons from playing with fire..Sadly some do not.

singlesix
10-11-2005, 05:15 PM
Sunrise that day was 6:44 - I have a calendar on the wall with the times listed. So even if the sky lightened 20 or 30 minutes earlier it simply doesn't fit.

"He could be a complete idiot. Possibly."

Based on what I've seen of him and the junk around his apartment, I'll see your Possibly and raise you a Probably More Than Likely.

He seems to have an ongoing problem with impulse control.

singlesix

PMcOuntry
10-11-2005, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by BevAnn
"WRIC 8 News is reporting that they have received information saying that Fawley's credit card shows charges for gas in New Kent County on the day that Taylor disappeared. New Kent Conty is between Richmond and Mathews County. "

http://taylorbehl.notagz.com/

ok - some explain - how could this credit card purchase of gas be relevant?


Bev Ann

That puts him near the area where she was found, hence a good lead towards his possibility of being guilty.

Also, he told them he stopped and got gas that day, so this would prove or dissprove his statement.

BevAnn
10-11-2005, 05:40 PM
Let me make sure I got this right - by HIS own account...he left Taylor at 9:30, at her dorm after a bout of sex, then is unaccounted for until sunrise, at 5:00am (which is a conflict)?


SO - where was he between 9:30 and 5 am? At home in bed?


I want to know What DATE and what TIME are on that cc receipt! This is very possibly the evidence LE has been waiting for.


Bev Ann

PMcOuntry
10-11-2005, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by singlesix
Sunrise that day was 6:44 - I have a calendar on the wall with the times listed. So even if the sky lightened 20 or 30 minutes earlier it simply doesn't fit.

"He could be a complete idiot. Possibly."

Based on what I've seen of him and the junk around his apartment, I'll see your Possibly and raise you a Probably More Than Likely.

He seems to have an ongoing problem with impulse control.

singlesix

You can also do searches on weather sites, etc. for ACTUAL sunup and sundown times, recorded by the weather people (I know so technical, lol).

zonkerharris
10-11-2005, 06:30 PM
Ben definitely tried to cover his tracks, but his half baked alibi is full of inconsistancys. He made the post in his journal about the "abduction" where he says this occured during the 5am hour and the sun had just came up. This did not jive with other sources where sunrise had been documented after 6am. Then, as if he hadn't done enough damage to his credibility, he tells a different version to the police.

I would imagine it has to be hard for someone to think clearly and cover all bases when you have just murdered a child.

PMcOuntry
10-11-2005, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by FocusFactor


Hi Janet.
I was thinking...often gas stations have cameras. Ben had changed the plates from Taylor's VA tags to something else (maybe to do the "highly illegal" thing).
So maybe did he change them twice?
Is that where GRN ERTH comes in?
Then back in Richmond, changed to the OH tags that the car was found with.

Anyways, I totally agree that the time is important. That likely blows his alibi unless he expects people to think the thugs abducted him to Mathews.

Some do, some don't. I know Sheetz doesn't, because my mother has worked there as a Sec. guard and if someone steals gas, they just make a clerk run after the car and take down the plate number (if they are fast enough and the car doesn't run a light...). However, I'd be checking into it.

BevAnn
10-12-2005, 02:49 PM
WHile I agree that he weaved the gas purchase for the mexican into his alibi, because he knew the cc receipt would be looked into - I do have to raise this point:

If he had presence of mind to realize the cc would flag a gas purchase - would he have not been bright enough to realize that same transaction would also produce a time and date stamp? Surely he would have realized that this piece of info goes hand in hand with a cc receipt???

Bev Ann

BevAnn
10-12-2005, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by AvengingAngel


Hi Bev,

so you're saying that they can discover what time he bought gas........so it better jive with his story, right?..........he says he was abducted early in the morning.......he says the sun was up.........so the time and date would have to jive with that, right?....if it all jives, then I (being me) would conclude that he buried taylor at the farm during daylight hours....if the time says 3am, however, then he has lots of explaining to do.....and wouldn't that be funny if he forgot that small detail??

Avenging - exactly! The report (and who knows if it's really accurate) if we follow it verbatim, says the cc receipt is dated the "day of Taylor's dissappearance" so that's MONDAY. So, if it's at say....11:30pm....he has a lot of explaining to do!

Bev Ann

singlesix
10-12-2005, 03:11 PM
"would he have not been bright enough to realize "

In my experience, not consistently bright. Let me explain.

The bi-polar folks I've worked with could pull off some amazing stunts while in a manic phase, but everything fell apart sooner or later due to faulty planning and execution. That's the problem with mania.

One that comes to mind was a manager who was having trouble at work; big trouble due to wild swings in performance. So what did he do? One day on the way to work he saw an abandoned diner in a bad part of town and managed to buy it that same morning by maxing out his credit cards for the down payment. He still got to work by noon, but got fired for not calling in. Never got the diner opened either because he didn't have the money or credit to start the renovations.

One more. A sophisticated man who passed himself off as a well-known movie star in New York City for almost a month. He looked the part, too. He ran up hotel bills, limo bills, restaurant bills, etc. and would have gotten away with it, but he just couldn't tear himself away from the good life and vanish. He just kept at it until the bills were way overdue and they had him checked out. Oops, off to prison he went.

Smart people? Yes in a way, but not that smart.

singlesix

10-12-2005, 03:34 PM
Singlesix...thanks for your input regarding bipolar...I have been wondering though even though I am jumping the gun with this assumption but reading the bit I have on serial killers....they all seem to leave clues back to themselves...as if to hide things perfectly in one area yet be so desperate to get caught in another. JMO...I still have fears that Taylor could possibly not of been his first victim

BevAnn
10-12-2005, 03:52 PM
I know single6, I hate to give BF too much credit for being smart...but still, I can't help but think if he thought of one aspect, he'd have thought of the other! (the time and date stamp)

My boss is bi-polar (or so we say she is) and about a year ago, she got REALLLLLYY happy and stays that way (meds) which is fine by me....one day she came in pissier than he!!, and I thought my GAWD what is her problem - then I heard her on the phone ordering her refills. Ah HA! So, she's ok, as long as she stays on meds. But oh man, clear the AREA when she's not. She gets MEAN in her lows.

JMHO and experiences...

Bev Ann

JillBean
10-12-2005, 04:57 PM
If this gas purchase rumor is indeed true, I am sure the times will jive. Not to give Ben credit for paying attention to that detail, but I'd be willing to bet his story is widely based around that very purchase - including the date and time, because he knew it would do him in, in the end.

I am willing to bet when/if the truth of this credit card matter is ever released to the public - we will learn that the time is within reason of what he originally said when he was "abducted" - in the 5 a.m. +/- timeframe. Which, in my opinion, will also tell us what time he was RETURNING from Mathews, in Taylors car, after dumping her body.

You people are getting too hung up on exact times and what time the sun rises. If I recall correctly - he said "before the sun even came up, so it had to be such and such a time....". He's shown on a number of occasions that time doesn't mean much to him - and half the time he doesn't know what time it is at all. I doubt he sleeps much (especially now), nevermind "normal hours".

That gas receipt will be dated early (4 to 6) a.m. - 9/6/05. Mark my words.

TN_Profiler
10-12-2005, 05:03 PM
From my little corner of the world I see Benny-boys purchase in this light .....

I would think he bought gas because he NEEDED to. If she drove back to campus that day, then it would be understandable that the car was already low. Financial transactions are all recorded with date and time because the request is sent for instant verification via satellite. Check out the roof of any gas station and they all have a dish. Trust me on this one people ... I am an accountant.

Seems technology is tougher to cover and it will be very damaging to the defendants case. Assuming the information is correct, the location of the gas station is a red hot smoking gun. Things would have looked much better for our boy Benny if he bought gas 50 miles due south or west of Richmond.

I knew from the minute he mentioned "buying gas", that he was trying to weave an alibi. If you don't own a car .... why are you buying gas? Why are you buying gas halfway to the crime scene? Why are you buying gas in the time frame of her disappearance? etc.. etc...

Anyone care to answer that question? Buehler? Buehler? Maybe for the same reason Scott "I've never gone fishing" Peterson bought a boat.

JillBean
10-12-2005, 05:16 PM
One more quick point. Let's not forget Taylor's car was missing for almost two weeks. Who knows where it was stashed in the meantime. If Ben had the car hidden that entire time, but still with access to it - we can't rule out the fact that he very well might have driven back to Mathews within those couple of weeks, to "visit" the "shallow grave" he left her in just days earlier.

The rumor is the gas purchase was "around the time Taylor went missing". Who knows? The receipt might be dated 9/10/05. That's still "around the time Taylor went missing", you know? In this case - it would have nothing to do with "his abduction", but point even more fingers in his direction.

starling
10-12-2005, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by bugnmissy
didn't he tell police that his abducters made him buy them gas? I know I read it on one of these threads because we were talking that he was setting up his alibi.

I'm sorry but his whole "thing" is so run-away-bride
Somebody just KICK HIM

CardShark
10-13-2005, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by AvengingAngel


I'm willing to bet the purchase is going to be dated the same night she vanished.

Great point from TN: she drove back to Richmond that same day!
That's why the tank was low. Bf probably almost ran out of gas on the way home from Mathews. Had to stop at a gas station. Damn! No cash! Had to use his credit card! Then he had to come up with the STORY....

Anyone wonder why he wouldn't have used the cash that Taylor had with her when she left the dorm room to pay for gas? All reports say she had cash. Some say $20, some say $40.

BevAnn
10-13-2005, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by CardShark


Anyone wonder why he wouldn't have used the cash that Taylor had with her when she left the dorm room to pay for gas? All reports say she had cash. Some say $20, some say $40.

That's a good point! I'd have to guess, maybe he just didn't realize she had money on her - he was too panicked - and it's still in her pocket of her jeans??

And JillBean - IF the story I orginally quoted is correct, they said the receipt is dated the day she went missing. Not around the time she went missing. So, that puts it on Monday. Of course who knows if that report is correct :shrug: ??

Bev Ann

Chloe G.
10-13-2005, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by BevAnn


That's a good point! I'd have to guess, maybe he just didn't realize she had money on her - he was too panicked - and it's still in her pocket of her jeans??

And JillBean - IF the story I orginally quoted is correct, they said the receipt is dated the day she went missing. Not around the time she went missing. So, that puts it on Monday. Of course who knows if that report is correct :shrug: ??

Bev Ann


Bev Ann....that's what i heard too, dated the DAY she went missing...can't remember where i heard that, tho...

chloe

kbean520
10-13-2005, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by AvengingAngel


If her roommate hadn't needed privacy that night, would Taylor have ever gone out? (Not to put any blame whatsoever on her roommate for needing privacy....I feel terrible for that girl!)

She said she'd leave for a "couple of hours". On a "school night", would Taylor agree to go to the farm (four hours round trip)??

Did Taylor have class the next day? If she left her room at 1030 and drove out to the farm and turned around and came back she'd get back at 230am.

I don't know. My feeling is that she didn't plan on going out to the farm.

Great points!!

BFD - v2.0
10-13-2005, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by AvengingAngel


If her roommate hadn't needed privacy that night, would Taylor have ever gone out? (Not to put any blame whatsoever on her roommate for needing privacy....I feel terrible for that girl!)

She said she'd leave for a "couple of hours". On a "school night", would Taylor agree to go to the farm (four hours round trip)??

Did Taylor have class the next day? If she left her room at 1030 and drove out to the farm and turned around and came back she'd get back at 230am.

I don't know. My feeling is that she didn't plan on going out to the farm.

The thing to keep in mind is there is an hour missing from her timeline.

Irregardless of whether it was Ben or Jake who took her back to the dorm, they both state it was around 9:30 pm, yet her roommate states it was 10:20 pm when she came and left.

We got mixed stories about what happened when she left the dorm. One story was she came in and said she was going to go skateboarding. The next story was she was going to leave to give her roommate privacy. Then that morphed into saying she was leaving to give her roommate privacy so decided to go skateboarding. No clear cut answers about what actually occurred at the dorm. But I think it's important to flesh that out because there is still nearly an hour of "lost time" between the two last known sightings of Taylor.

What happened in that 40 minutes between someone dropping her off at the dorm security foyer and her dorm room? (It is my understanding that you have to use an access card to enter Gladdings. No one has stated when or how often that access card had been used.)

guineaneck
10-13-2005, 11:38 AM
http://www.wric.com/Global/story.asp?S=3962777&nav=0Rcx

This is what I believe to be the original source of the credit card report; please someone correct me if I'm wrong...
This says the card was used in New Kent AROUND the time Taylor went missing, not the day of (Monday), so it could have been early Tuesday a.m.
I just drove through West Point on my way to Richmond and counted about 10 possible gas stations (including the ones at I-64 exits). Almost all were pay at the pump and a few places were open 24 hr, but none that I saw had security cameras (which doesn't surprise me, out here in the country).

TN_Profiler
10-13-2005, 11:40 AM
AvengingAngel you have made me change my mind with your comments about being a "schoolnight" and the likelihood of Taylor going on a four hour (or more) trip seems more and more like a stretch. I originally thought he rural property was the place she was killed but that doesn't answer the question about the garabage bag.

Where did the garbage bag come from? Ben was shown throwing items out of his house in the days following her disapperarance and that just strikes a cord with me. If he killed her in his apartment, and he is in an urban setting that has people up at all hours of the night, did he use the garbage bag to conceal her so he could put her in the car?

She did have her car parked near his apartment. Given the distance from Richmond to the farm, the round trip was too long to make without buying more gas.

Dollars to donuts says Ben, with all day to think about his actions, only decided to concoct a story about his "abduction" to account for the gas purchase.

Does anyone know where Ben was from .... 8 am until he showed up at the Police department later in the same day?

BFD - v2.0
10-13-2005, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by guineaneck
http://www.wric.com/Global/story.asp?S=3962777&nav=0Rcx

This is what I believe to be the original source of the credit card report; please someone correct me if I'm wrong...
This says the card was used in New Kent AROUND the time Taylor went missing, not the day of (Monday), so it could have been early Tuesday a.m.
I just drove through West Point on my way to Richmond and counted about 10 possible gas stations (including the ones at I-64 exits). Almost all were pay at the pump and a few places were open 24 hr, but none that I saw had security cameras (which doesn't surprise me, out here in the country).

It could also have been on Sunday.

BFD - v2.0
10-13-2005, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by TN_Profiler
AvengingAngel you have made me change my mind with your comments about being a "schoolnight" and the likelihood of Taylor going on a four hour (or more) trip seems more and more like a stretch. I originally thought he rural property was the place she was killed but that doesn't answer the question about the garabage bag.

Where did the garbage bag come from? Ben was shown throwing items out of his house in the days following her disapperarance and that just strikes a cord with me. If he killed her in his apartment, and he is in an urban setting that has people up at all hours of the night, did he use the garbage bag to conceal her so he could put her in the car?

She did have her car parked near his apartment. Given the distance from Richmond to the farm, the round trip was too long to make without buying more gas.

Dollars to donuts says Ben, with all day to think about his actions, only decided to concoct a story about his "abduction" to account for the gas purchase.

Does anyone know where Ben was from .... 8 am until he showed up at the Police department later in the same day?

They searched Ben's apartment twice. It is my understanding that the "cleaning" was done between the searches. The first search was on the 17th the second on the 23rd. (The second search is when they found things in the garbage)

If anything, it shows me a person that was getting ready to move at a moment's notice, not necessarily trying to get rid of any possible evidence. Just getting rid of extra junk.

No one knows how much gas Taylor's car had in it. But the gas tank of the vehicle is more than capable of going from Vienna to VCU to Diggs and then back to Richmond on a full tank.

TN_Profiler
10-13-2005, 06:34 PM
My assumption was that her car wasn't on full when she left Vienna. In her LJ she openly talks about going to Fla to get her new car and even has an entry upon her return to Vienna. Sadly, she did not own the car very long. :(

The only scenario I can think of to definitively determine gas purchased and used would be IF the car is only missing the amount of gas it takes to get from the station to where it was found. Or (assuming it was completely empty) the amount of gas in it is exactly equal to what what purchased less what it would use to get back to Richmond. Either scenario would be picked apart by a decent defense Atty.

I am hanging my hopes on solid evidence from other avenues. (forensic, interrogation, statements, etc...)