jeremy cross's(emay1emay's son) murderer was killed in prison

[emay1emay]

WHEN SEXUAL PREDATORS ARE PLED OUT TO A DIFFERENT CHARGE THAN THEIR SEX CRIME THEY DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN THEY GET OUT . MY 14 YEAR OLD SON WAS MURDERED IN 92 AND HIS MURDERER IS UP FOR PAROLE AND BECAUSE HE WAS NOT CONVICTED OF HIS SEX CRIMES BUT ONLY THE MURDER HE WAS NOT A KNOWN PEDOPHILE IN PRISON AND WILL NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN HE GETS OUT. EVEN THOUGH HE HAD OVER 9 PREVIOUS VICTIMS AND WAS ON PAROLE AT THE TIME HE MURDERED MY SON FOR AN ALMOST IDENTICAL CRIME. ONLY THANKFULLY HIS PREVIOUS VICTIM SURVIVED THE STRANGULATION DUE TO INTERVENTION AND CPR. :confused:
i dont understand all these plea bargains they should always have to carry their sex crimes with their record and have to register.. these are people that often kill their victims once thy have done time in jail

[Jen260]

I'm very sorry to hear about your son...:rose:

[Staple4351]

So sorry to hear about your son. I can't even imagine what you went through and I'm sure are still going through.

Our society will always protect criminals even when it costs people their lives. You would think by now people would understand that anyone committing a sexual crime especially against kids will only continue to do it. I don't believe people like that can be cured - ever. But as long as the insanely politically correct people run this world it will continue to happen.

It's nuts.

Again, so sorry for your loss. I hope you find peace.

[RebelAngel]

:rose: :rose: :rose:

[kelizabeth]

:rose: for your son

[annicablue]

Originally posted by emay1emay
WHEN SEXUAL PREDATORS ARE PLED OUT TO A DIFFERENT CHARGE THAN THEIR SEX CRIME THEY DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN THEY GET OUT . MY 14 YEAR OLD SON WAS MURDERED IN 92 AND HIS MURDERER IS UP FOR PAROLE AND BECAUSE HE WAS NOT CONVICTED OF HIS SEX CRIMES BUT ONLY THE MURDER HE WAS NOT A KNOWN PEDOPHILE IN PRISON AND WILL NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN HE GETS OUT. EVEN THOUGH HE HAD OVER 9 PREVIOUS VICTIMS AND WAS ON PAROLE AT THE TIME HE MURDERED MY SON FOR AN ALMOST IDENTICAL CRIME. ONLY THANKFULLY HIS PREVIOUS VICTIM SURVIVED THE STRANGULATION DUE TO INTERVENTION AND CPR. :confused:
i dont understand all these plea bargains they should always have to carry their sex crimes with their record and have to register.. these are people that often kill their victims once thy have done time in jail

I am so sorry for your loss. :rose:

IMO, sex offenders should never be let out prison because we know there is no "cure" for their particular kind of evil.

If it's not too personal, may I ask if you are going to his parole hearing?

[openminded1]

Originally posted by annicablue


I am so sorry for your loss. :rose:

IMO, sex offenders should never be let out prison because we know there is no "cure" for their particular kind of evil.
-snip-


I think they should offer the parents the opportunity to extract whatever vengence they see fit. That will never happen, of course, but that would probably be more of a deterrent than any jail or "humane execution" will ever be.

My ex-husband felt that violent sex offenders should be surgically blinded if they are ever paroled. His theory was that they could not possibly strike again, and they would be extremely vulnerable themselves.

In lieu of that, your solution seems the best alternative.

:rose: to all the children

[janna55]

Originally posted by annicablue


I am so sorry for your loss. :rose:

IMO, sex offenders should never be let out prison because we know there is no "cure" for their particular kind of evil.

If it's not too personal, may I ask if you are going to his parole hearing?

ITA

:rose: for emay's son

JMO

Jan

[both_of_us]

So sorry for your loss.
:rose: :rose: :rose:

[live4love]

Originally posted by emay1emay
WHEN SEXUAL PREDATORS ARE PLED OUT TO A DIFFERENT CHARGE THAN THEIR SEX CRIME THEY DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN THEY GET OUT . MY 14 YEAR OLD SON WAS MURDERED IN 92 AND HIS MURDERER IS UP FOR PAROLE AND BECAUSE HE WAS NOT CONVICTED OF HIS SEX CRIMES BUT ONLY THE MURDER HE WAS NOT A KNOWN PEDOPHILE IN PRISON AND WILL NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN HE GETS OUT. EVEN THOUGH HE HAD OVER 9 PREVIOUS VICTIMS AND WAS ON PAROLE AT THE TIME HE MURDERED MY SON FOR AN ALMOST IDENTICAL CRIME. ONLY THANKFULLY HIS PREVIOUS VICTIM SURVIVED THE STRANGULATION DUE TO INTERVENTION AND CPR. :confused:
i dont understand all these plea bargains they should always have to carry their sex crimes with their record and have to register.. these are people that often kill their victims once thy have done time in jail

I am so sorry for your loss !! What a terrible , horrible crime !! :rose:
Now it is being compounded by the legal system. Yes this offender should be identified as such. They should never let these *******s out either IMO !!
((((((((HUGS)))))))) For you !!:rose:

L4L.....tears.....

Oh, I am so terribly sorry about your son. I think if I were you I would contact every local media person I could think of and make it a cause locally. I would ask to speak at community organizations and make people aware of what was going to be moving back into the community. I think if enough publicity is given to this person it will be very difficult for him to live next door to decent law abiding people. This man will most certainly not be reformed of his horrid ways and nobody will want him near them or their children. You can get the laws changed if you get everybody aware of this.

Again, my deepest sympathy. I cannot even imagine your pain.

Caroline

[Rinn129]

Originally posted by cowbeller

Have you checked the statue of limitations? Can he be tried now still for your sons murder. I'd get on the prosecuting attorney and ride his back to try that evil ******* for sex crimes. They did not do it the first time they can do it now. Let them know you will be watching and if this guy ever offends again they wil be accountable.

I believe this guy WAS convicted of killing her son. The issue is that he won't have to register as a sex offender since he went to jail for MURDER and not sex offending. Is that right, OP?

[emay1emay]

I FOUND OUT TODAY DAVE BARNETT'S FIRST PAROLE WAS DENIED , AS ORDERED BY THE SENTENCING JUDGE, IN JUNE OF 2006 I WILL BE THERE TO DO WHAT I CAN TO STOP HIS RELEASE. I REALLY WANT TO KNOW HOW TO CHANGE THE LAWS ON PLEAING OUT OF SEX CRIMES SO THEY DONT HAVE IT ON THEIR RECORDS

[emay1emay]

IN HOPING TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THE LOCAL D.A. THAT HANDLED MY SONS MURDER .CLAIMS THAT THE REASON SHE TOOK THE PLEA WWAS FOR THE SAKE OF THE PREVIOUS VICTIM WELL POINT IS HE LIVED, MY SON DID NOT, I FEEL LIKE . ALL THE 'BUG' EVIDENCE FROM MY SON SHOULD HAVE BEEN TESTED TO THE LIMITS BECAUSE THEY KNEW FROM THE AUTOPSY THAT HE WAS NOT ONLY STRANGLED, BUT BOUND TO SOMETHING BY HIS WRISTS AND ANKLES AND STABBED INTHE BACK BEFORE BEING STRANGLED, I FEL WHATEVER EVIDENCE THAY HAD SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY PROCESSED AND TESTED TO THE LIMITS EVEN THEN NO MATTER HOW DECAYED MY SONS BODY WAS I KNOW THE 'BUG' EVIDENCE COULD HAVE BEEN TESTED OR THE CORONER WOULD NOT HAVECOLLECTED IT. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONCERN AND DISCUSSION IT HELPS

[janna55]

Originally posted by emay1emay
IN HOPING TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THE LOCAL D.A. THAT HANDLED MY SONS MURDER .CLAIMS THAT THE REASON SHE TOOK THE PLEA WWAS FOR THE SAKE OF THE PREVIOUS VICTIM WELL POINT IS HE LIVED, MY SON DID NOT, I FEEL LIKE . ALL THE 'BUG' EVIDENCE FROM MY SON SHOULD HAVE BEEN TESTED TO THE LIMITS BECAUSE THEY KNEW FROM THE AUTOPSY THAT HE WAS NOT ONLY STRANGLED, BUT BOUND TO SOMETHING BY HIS WRISTS AND ANKLES AND STABBED INTHE BACK BEFORE BEING STRANGLED, I FEL WHATEVER EVIDENCE THAY HAD SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY PROCESSED AND TESTED TO THE LIMITS EVEN THEN NO MATTER HOW DECAYED MY SONS BODY WAS I KNOW THE 'BUG' EVIDENCE COULD HAVE BEEN TESTED OR THE CORONER WOULD NOT HAVECOLLECTED IT. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONCERN AND DISCUSSION IT HELPS

Oh emay1 my heart breaks for you.

:rose: :rose:

Jan

[emay1emay]

on july 2 1992 MY SON WASMOLESTED AND MURDERED BY A PREVIOUSLY CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER, ONCE THEY GET CAUGHT AND DO TIME THEY TEND TO KILL THEIR VICTIMS SO THEY REDUCE THEIR CHANCES OF GETTING CAUGHT. THIS MAN ALSO PLED GUILTY TO MURDER FOR A REDUCED SENTENCE OF 18 YEARS :flamemad: HE IS ALREADY BEEN DENIED ONE PAROLE, ITS ONLY BEEN 14 YEARS HE SHOULD NOT EVEN BE CONSIDERED FOR PAROLE NOW OR EVER. DEATH TO THE *******!

[theresak1978]

:rose: For your son.....

I have a 3year old daughter and if someone did that to my child I would take matters into my own hands if that man were to be released and see to it myself that justice is served....if you know what I mean. AN EYE FOR AN EYE.
I hope he is never able to get out on parole.

May god be with you in these trying times.

Emay...have you spoken to an attorney about this? You need some legal advice and I am afraid we are all ill-equiped to help you there. In my opinion, I think you should speak to one but also write and/or call every government official you can. If you can find someone, say a state representative, who would take a personal interest in your case or this issue you can get the state government AND the media into this case.

My deepest sympathy to you and my sincerest wishes that this pervert never sees a millisecond of freedom for the rest of his miserable life!!!

For you and your son :rose: :rose: :rose:

BTW, when that pig does come up for another parole let everyone at these message boards know in advance. There are plenty of us who will write letters to the parole board begging to keep this monster in jail.

[emay1emay]

i had hired an attorney butbecause he was involved in a scandal unrelated to my case he did not file some paper or other in time and my case against the state was thrown out, andi amnot financially able to hire any one to look into it but i thank any onefor there interest and i do plan on getting some other things started as far as laws needing to change and such thank you again:read: :shrug: :confused:

[annicablue]

Emay1emay - you are in my prayers. I wish I had something to say to take away all your pain, but words fail me. I'm just so sorry about your loss and the way the system has failed you and your son. I will pray for justice and healing.

:rose:

[oldshirley]

Emay, first, my heart goes out to you. :rose:

I have said it before and I will say it again--we spend too much time protecting the "civil rights" of criminals, pedophiles and rapists in particular, and the victims end up being the people with absolutely no rights.
Laws need to change.

[Christie1979]

Originally posted by vp33


BTW, when that pig does come up for another parole let everyone at these message boards know in advance. There are plenty of us who will write letters to the parole board begging to keep this monster in jail.

VP is right; there are many who would be willing to participate in a letter writing campaign when the parol next considers releasing this jerk.

There is considerable strength in numbers, and you're certainly not alone in your fight. Just say the word.

[oldshirley]

We can do an online petition. I don't know how much weight they carry, but we can try.

[emay1emay]

HISTORY IS REPEATING ITSELF ON JULY 2 1992 MY (SMALL FOR HIS AGE) 14 YEAR OLD SON WAS BRUTALLY MOLESTED RAPED AND MURDERED BY DAVID BARNETT RECENTLY RELEASED FROM PRISON ON PAROLE FOR AN ALMOST IDENTICAL CRIME THAT HE HAD COMMITTED IN NEW YORK CITY(HE WAS OUTED TO A HOMELESS SHELTER IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD). THIS WAS BEFORE MEGANS LAW ,NOT THAT I WOULD HAVE EVER SUSPECTED THIS MAN .HE HAD BEFREINDED ONE OF MY OLDER SONS 21YRS OLD AT THE TIME THIS MAN(BOY) ACCORDING TO THE POLICE HAD PLANNED IT ALL OUT, CHECKED OUT THE SITUATION . WEEDLED HIS WAY IN , AND BEFORE ANY OF US HAD A CLUE MY YOUNGER SON WAS MISSING AND SOON DEAD.. PAROLE LET THIS PEDOPHILE.. WORK DELIVERING PIZZAS, NEWSPAPERS, AND A LOCAL GAS -CONVENIENCE STORE ITS ONLY BEEN 14 YRS AGO AND THIS REPEAT OFFENDER PEDOPHILE WHO WAS SENTENCED TO 18 TO LIFE WAS GRANTED A PAROLE HEARING ALREADY,:flamemad: SOMETIMES I FEEL MORE HELPLESS NOW, JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS ANIMAL GETTING OUT,. HE ALSO ESCAPED BEING LISTED AS A SEX OFFENDER BECAUSE HE PLED GUILTY TO MURDER WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER OFFENDERS ALSO THAT GOT OUT OF BEING LISTED AS SUCH BECAUSE THEY PLED TO A LESSER CRIME???? WHEN ARE THE KIDS GOING TO GET PROTECTION ??? NEVER SHOULD THESE ANIMALS BE ALLOWED TO PLEA OUT OF SEX CRIMES AGAINST KIDS.. AAND NOT HAAVE TO PAY OR REGISTER AS A SEX OFFENDER.

[lorjac]

I am so sorry for your loss and feel your anger and frustration!!

The fact that our legal system is still going easy on these predators is mind blowing to me.... and to not have to register because he's listed as a murderer not a sexual predator... instead he should be listed as BOTH!!!

I, too, feel your anguish. Everytime I hear about a monster, such as John Couey and hear how he and others are let out of jail or prison on "good behavior", I could puke! I wish their penises would be cut off these offenders for their penalty for committing these types of sex crimes. How many would that deter? I'd say about 99% of them! If that didn't deter them , after the next offense, their hands would be cut off, a condition of release...to make sure it would be next to impossible to grasp their next intended victim. Also, teach children to beware of anyone without hands. This coddling of the most heinous killers in our nation is getting ridiculously absurd. They even put them in a protected place in prison because other inmates know what to do with these perverts. They wouldn't last 10 minutes! It's pretty bad when those who are in prison have more sense of justice than those running the system! :flamemad:

And did you hear about the illegal immigrant who raped and murdered a 4 yo girl? There was an APB out for that scum yesterday evening! When will we quit babying these scumbags??

[oldshirley]

http://www.petitiononline.com/
http://www.petitiononline.com/create_petition.html
emay, these are the links to the online petition website i told you about. The second one is the link to start a petition. Since I don't know the particulars of your son's case, I could not start it, but if you start it, I will be happy to sign. I'm sure I'm not the only person on these boards willing to sign.
Most of us are sick of these predators being out on the streets.

[CutiePie4]

I am so sorry for your loss:rose: I hope this guy never gets out and does this to anyone else!

[dntlooknow]

Originally posted by vp33
Emay...have you spoken to an attorney about this? You need some legal advice and I am afraid we are all ill-equiped to help you there. In my opinion, I think you should speak to one but also write and/or call every government official you can. If you can find someone, say a state representative, who would take a personal interest in your case or this issue you can get the state government AND the media into this case.

My deepest sympathy to you and my sincerest wishes that this pervert never sees a millisecond of freedom for the rest of his miserable life!!!

For you and your son :rose: :rose: :rose:

BTW, when that pig does come up for another parole let everyone at these message boards know in advance. There are plenty of us who will write letters to the parole board begging to keep this monster in jail.

What a great idea I know I would be honored to write to the parole board on behalf of you and your son.

Originally posted by Obvious
PLEA bargains are out of control. We can make all the law we want but if we do not stop the PROS side from these awful downgrades of charges we will never have them off the streets for good.

ANY crime involving the harm or death of another human should be able to be pled down! That is what we should be writing our law makers for .. NO PLEAS on crimes against persons PERIOD! You are absolutely right...plea bargaining is out of control. Downgrading charges then giving less jailtime so the rapist can go free and all the cops know is he was convicted for something lesser. :shrug:

Do future judges have any clue about a criminal's past pleas? Probably not. And as we've seen, some do not even check criminal histories! A deal AND a lazy judge--nearly a clean slate for a rapist. But I digress. These deals, even if for the benefit of the traumatized victim, need to be stopped. The victim deserves all the consideration in the world but considering them above future possible victims can and has lead to rape and murder. Why can't victims (esp. children) give videotaped testimony or a personal interview to the judge/jury? They can be cross-examined without having their tormentor stare them down. I know the constitution says you as the accused have the right to face your accuser, but damn...how many pleas have we had due to this constitutional right? What should be done about it?

[krystalball]

Emay- Im so sorry to hear of all that you and your family have been through. I cannot believe this guy is even up for parole at all, especially so soon. I think plea bargains should be done away with. If he is not going to be required to register as a sex offender even though he is one, maybe he should be required to register as a convicted murderer!!!! We need to be informed of all paroled violent criminals living amongst us. My heart goes out to you.

[emmeblu]

Originally posted by emay1emay
WHEN SEXUAL PREDATORS ARE PLED OUT TO A DIFFERENT CHARGE THAN THEIR SEX CRIME THEY DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN THEY GET OUT . MY 14 YEAR OLD SON WAS MURDERED IN 92 AND HIS MURDERER IS UP FOR PAROLE AND BECAUSE HE WAS NOT CONVICTED OF HIS SEX CRIMES BUT ONLY THE MURDER HE WAS NOT A KNOWN PEDOPHILE IN PRISON AND WILL NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN HE GETS OUT. EVEN THOUGH HE HAD OVER 9 PREVIOUS VICTIMS AND WAS ON PAROLE AT THE TIME HE MURDERED MY SON FOR AN ALMOST IDENTICAL CRIME. ONLY THANKFULLY HIS PREVIOUS VICTIM SURVIVED THE STRANGULATION DUE TO INTERVENTION AND CPR. :confused:
i dont understand all these plea bargains they should always have to carry their sex crimes with their record and have to register.. these are people that often kill their victims once thy have done time in jail

:rose: I am so sorry for the loss of your son. How heart breaking to lose a child and then the predator come up for parole. Please, go sit in the meeting and speak as to why he should not be let out in the free world. Tell the parole board what you told us.

Blessings.

[GrrlPwer]

Originally posted by emay1emay
WHEN SEXUAL PREDATORS ARE PLED OUT TO A DIFFERENT CHARGE THAN THEIR SEX CRIME THEY DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN THEY GET OUT . MY 14 YEAR OLD SON WAS MURDERED IN 92 AND HIS MURDERER IS UP FOR PAROLE AND BECAUSE HE WAS NOT CONVICTED OF HIS SEX CRIMES BUT ONLY THE MURDER HE WAS NOT A KNOWN PEDOPHILE IN PRISON AND WILL NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN HE GETS OUT. EVEN THOUGH HE HAD OVER 9 PREVIOUS VICTIMS AND WAS ON PAROLE AT THE TIME HE MURDERED MY SON FOR AN ALMOST IDENTICAL CRIME. ONLY THANKFULLY HIS PREVIOUS VICTIM SURVIVED THE STRANGULATION DUE TO INTERVENTION AND CPR. :confused:
i dont understand all these plea bargains they should always have to carry their sex crimes with their record and have to register.. these are people that often kill their victims once thy have done time in jail

very sorry to hear about your son....... :rose:

[kelizabeth]

:rose: foryour son. I also would be honored to write a letter on you son's behalf! How strong you seem Emay, all my best wishes and heartfelt sympathy to you

Originally posted by emay1emay
I FOUND OUT TODAY DAVE BARNETT'S FIRST PAROLE WAS DENIED , AS ORDERED BY THE SENTENCING JUDGE, IN JUNE OF 2006 I WILL BE THERE TO DO WHAT I CAN TO STOP HIS RELEASE. I REALLY WANT TO KNOW HOW TO CHANGE THE LAWS ON PLEAING OUT OF SEX CRIMES SO THEY DONT HAVE IT ON THEIR RECORDS

This site has a ton of useful information and contact links.

http://www.sexcriminals.com/news-archive/featured-200403.html

Additionally, if I have your permission, I will include your plea on my Forum AND I will seek to spread the word in other areas on the Net. If you could provide me with the name of the facility in which he is curently housed, I can also try to organize a letter writing campaign which will show that the PEOPLE do not want this man back on the street.

The BEST way to get laws changed is to contact your representatives in Congress. If you need help with this, PLEASE let me know and I will do all that I can to assist you.

I am so sorry for your loss and you will remain in my thoughts and prayers.

[HeronInTheSnow]

Originally posted by vp33


BTW, when that pig does come up for another parole let everyone at these message boards know in advance. There are plenty of us who will write letters to the parole board begging to keep this monster in jail.

I second that. Let the boards know.

I didn't realize that a criminal would not have to register as a sex offender if he/she is tried for murder, as you say. How scary.

God Bless you and your son. There are no words. :rose:

[LTUCher]

Please let us know what you would like us to do and we will do it, letter writing campaigns, writing to the media, we get heard. There are attorneys that are members here, there are many people willing to help, if you just give us the word.

:rose: Prayers for you and your family.

[netmomma]

to hear about your loss....I hope you will find peace to sustain you......:rose:

[emay1emay]

IN JUNE OF 2006 THE MAN (DAVID BARNETT) WHO BRUTALIZED AND MURDERED MY 14 YEAR OLD SON IS UP FOR PAROLE TO POSSIBLY BE RELEASED IN AUGUST OF 2006. AFTER ONLY SERVING 14 YEARS. HE WAS PREVIOUSLY CONVICTED OF AN ALMOST IDENTICAL CRIME OF MOLESTATION AND ATTEMPTED MURDER, THANKFULLY FOR THAT YOUNG MAN ,HE WAS REVIVED, AND LIVED. WHEN DAVID BARNETT FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE BRINGING THIS YOUNG MAN IN TO TESTIFY HE COPPED A PLEA THAT WOULD PREVENT HIM FROM FILING AS A SEX OFFENDER . HE WAS ONLY CHARGED WITH MURDER ,NONE OF THE OTHER 30 POSSIBLE CHARGES INCLUDING HIDING MY SONS BODY, (FOM UPSTATE NY TO PA) MOLESTATION, KIDNAPPING, AND MANY OTHER CHARGES THAT THEY COULD HAVE CHARGED HIM WITH. THE AUTOPSY THAT I WAS NOT ALLOWED TO SEE UNTIL MORE THAN A YEAR AFTER THE TRIAL SHOWED AMONG OTHER THINGS THAT WHILE HE DIED OF STRANGULATION HE WAS STABBED ,BOUND ,AND STRANGLED. UNTIL I WENT TO THE PRESS TWO YEARS AGO HIS PRISON MATES JUST THOUGHT HE WAS THERE FOR MURDER . THEY DID NOT KNOW IT WAS AN ESTREMELY SMALL 14 YEAR OLD CHILD... AND THAT HE MOLESTED HIM AND BRAGGED OF DESSICRATING HIS BODY. FO NOW DAVID BARNETT INMATE #93B1594 IS SITTING IN ELMIRA CORRECTIONAL FACILITY HE MAY SOON BE APPEARING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR YOU!!!!!!!

[oldshirley]

Emay, go to the online petition website at
http://www.petitiononline.com/petition.html

and start a petition and then give us the link. I'll sign and I know a lot of other posters will sign.
He should NOT be getting out. There HAS to be some justice for your son.
:rose:

[emay1emay]

SEE MY OTHER POST ON COLD CASES, CURRENT CRIMES .THANK YOU

[emay1emay]

THANK YOU EVERY ONE IT ALL HELPS ANDIS APPRECIATED ASSOON AS I GET THE PETITION DONE I WILL LET EVERYONE KNOW

[oldshirley]

emay, please post a link to the petition once you get it set up. you'll get lots of signatures from us, i guarantee it. :rose:

[emay1emay]

i need the transcripts, so i can keep my sons murderer behind bars ,, only 13 yrs have passed and i want him kept in prison,, my son was not his first victim,,,, but the first known victim to die, nine previous victims,,,, one revived from death. my 14 yr old,,, murdered,,,,, david barnett stated that after he molested my son and had him hogtied when my son came to,,(revived from the assault ) cross was the kind of person after what i did to him i had to kill him or he would have killed me,, my son was bareley 4 foot tall and barnett thought he had a younger victim on his hands... my son was 14 when barnett killed him,, at first thought he had a more naive controllable victim,, and i guess he did because barnett was huge in comparison, im sure he was more afraid of going back to prison he was only out three months before he murdered my boy,,,,

[bkqueen]

emay,
i meant to respond to you on nomi's thread but i must have forgotten. I'm not sure why everyone thought your son had killed someone, or somehow it became a brother, but your post was pretty clear.

I honestly don't know the laws about transcripts, or the fees. But it seems that a mother of the victim would be able to access them, and i would think they would be free. especially since your son was a minor.

i will never be able to understand the grief and emotions you have/will go through, but my heart and thoughts are with you.

[emay1emay]

i want to thank all the people who take the time to read my posts wether they respond or not, it means a lot just to know more peoplehave read them

[emmeblu]

:rose: So sad to read about your son.
:rose: For you and all your hurt, pain, loss and anger.

I will be happy to sign a petition for you. Please let us know when you have it ready.
God Bless,
Emme

[Sashacat]

Originally posted by emay1emay
WHEN SEXUAL PREDATORS ARE PLED OUT TO A DIFFERENT CHARGE THAN THEIR SEX CRIME THEY DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN THEY GET OUT . MY 14 YEAR OLD SON WAS MURDERED IN 92 AND HIS MURDERER IS UP FOR PAROLE AND BECAUSE HE WAS NOT CONVICTED OF HIS SEX CRIMES BUT ONLY THE MURDER HE WAS NOT A KNOWN PEDOPHILE IN PRISON AND WILL NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WHEN HE GETS OUT. EVEN THOUGH HE HAD OVER 9 PREVIOUS VICTIMS AND WAS ON PAROLE AT THE TIME HE MURDERED MY SON FOR AN ALMOST IDENTICAL CRIME. ONLY THANKFULLY HIS PREVIOUS VICTIM SURVIVED THE STRANGULATION DUE TO INTERVENTION AND CPR. :confused:
i dont understand all these plea bargains they should always have to carry their sex crimes with their record and have to register.. these are people that often kill their victims once thy have done time in jail

I am so sorry to hear of your loss. :rose: God Bless.

[emay1emay]

I AM WORKING ON THE PETITION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE EVERYTHING ACCURATE AND I HAVE ALSO CONTACTED A LOCAL NEWS REPORTER ABOUT THE FACT THAT, BECAUSE HE PLED OUT TO MURDER, HE DONT HAVE TO FILE AS A SEX OFFENDER ,AND IM WAITING TO HEAR FROM HER, SO WILL KEEP YOU ALL POSTED THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE......

[ferret]

I am sorry to hear about your loss.

If I might recommend, something, however, it would be to not use an online petition site to generate your "petition." Most people completely disregard online petitions because they can so easily be faked and are very difficult to fact check. A better idea would be to print up a paper petition, and for you and your friends to go door to door IN the city where your son was murdered and surrounding cities. Quite honestly, if you're from, say, Nashville, the parole board does not really care what people in Seattle think. They care about setting a person free (or not setting a person free) in the local area.

So, please.. don't waste your time with an online petition. It won't do you any good, it'd likely get ignored. Walk in to the hearing with the signatures of 300,000 local residents, tho.. and the parole board would definatly think hard about this.

[emay1emay]

this is not an( individual city) problem its nationwide last time he was paroled here from ny city. maybe next time hell choose your city instead of mine, but if i dont do ALL that i can do to prevent him from getting out period maybe they will send him to your area , if your not protesting his release

[ferret]

Originally posted by emay1emay
this is not an( individual city) problem its nationwide last time he was paroled here from ny city. maybe next time hell choose your city instead of mine, but if i dont do ALL that i can do to prevent him from getting out period maybe they will send him to your area , if your not protesting his release

You're not listening.

Protesting his release by signing an online petition is pointless. Online petitions are not accurate , and are often discarded. If you wish to make a statement, use an offline petition where the people who sign it can be easily tracked.

Justice4Eva@aol.com and FryHim@gmail.com

are far less accurate and legitimate sounding people than Frank Williamson of 239 Fourth street and Bethany Grund of 15 Lone Park Drive.

Online petitions are NOT legitimate. They are easily stuffed, and hard to verify.

[emay1emay]

OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT I DONT CONSIDER ONLINE PETITIONS BOGUS, THEY GET THINGS GOING AND GET PUBLICITY,,
AS WELL AS MANY PEOPLE THAT IAM CONFIDENT WILL PERSONALLY SEND LETTERS NATIONALLY AND EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS

[emay1emay]

I CONTACTED THE LOCAL PAPER AND ILL SEE HOW THE REACTION IS TO THE PUBLIC FINDING OUT WHEN HE COPPED THE PLEA TO MURDER HE NOT ONLY GOT A RIDICULOUSLY LIGHT SENTENCE BUT HE ALSO DOES NOT HAVE TO REGISTER AS A SEX OFFENDER WHEN HE IS RELEASED

[ferret]

Originally posted by emay1emay
OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT I DONT CONSIDER ONLINE PETITIONS BOGUS, THEY GET THINGS GOING AND GET PUBLICITY,,
AS WELL AS MANY PEOPLE THAT IAM CONFIDENT WILL PERSONALLY SEND LETTERS NATIONALLY AND EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS

Sadly, emay, people here won't. A number of them will sign your online petition and think thats all they need to do. Most won't send letters.

That's why I suggest you do paper petitions and letters.

[likestochat]

ferett, for a new poster you sound like one i knew before on line. that guy had brains , humor and a high iq. regardless i think you are on the right track -glad to see a poster with brains is here.welcome.

[forensicpsy]

To protest the release on parole of David Barnett - contact the following:

Mr. Robert Dennison
Chairman
NYS Board of Parole
97 Central Avenue
Albany, New Yorl 12206


Parole Officer Deborah Stewart
Victim Impact Unit
NYS Division of Parole
97 Central Avenue
Albany, New York 12206

You can also attend the parole hearing.

JMO

[IN Hope]

It does help to Make it personal.

Put Your Face and the Face of All in front of the politicians, judges and all those involved in releasing this sicko!

I have signed many a petition online, but also have signed many on hard copy.

I have found that putting things on paper and doing the old fashioned way of sending it by mail, fax and online ALL together will and can make a difference.

Just my experience and 2 cents worth.

I would like to suggest you getting the local Child Advocates, Parents of Murdered Children and your States DV Advocates involved also, it cannot hurt.

:rose: For you and your son.

[emay1emay]

thanks for the info (addresses)

[emay1emay]

jjgirl your question prompted me to do just that and i still have to wait to hear from the newspaper reporter that is investigating the info i gave her

[Tranaice]

emay, I am so sorry to read about your son. Please know that you are in my thoughts and prayers. I would gladly sign a petition to keep that SOB in jail.

[specialonetoo]

I too am so sorry for your loss. No one can even imagine what you must be going through without experiencing it themselves. And I agree, there should be a place for these monsters to be kept until it's their time to enter hell. Too bad San Quientin is no longer operating. But I do want to say something that yes is disturbing to know. Many have said that these monters are kept in protective areas or separated from General Population within the Prison system. I have worked with inmates, transporting them all over the country, and many times I would have child molesters aboard. Most believe that they receive horibble treatment from within the system and from other inmates. That just simply is not true. They may be raped in prison, but many are raped that are not molesters or killers. The fact is, that most go on with a 'normal' prison life. They just exchange their needs for children and receive those needs from others within their reach. Whether it be male or female offenders, these monsters need to be released to the public, the families, and the living victims. And when I say that, I mean handed over directly to them. Then they might receive a proper sentence. There is a special place in hell for these less than human pieces of feces. Our system has failed us more times than any of us can count. They say our prisons are overcrowded. Yeah, so what. Why should any of these creeps live a comfortable life? We as tax payers are paying for their medical, dental, and eye care. We are also paying for their meals, cable TV, and entertainment. No one pays for any of my entertainment or medical needs but myself. We need more prisons and less frivilous public things. There are many islands that have nothing but wild animals and shark infested waters surrounding the island. Let them live like the animals they are.....alone and without life. Plea bargaining should be banned. How can any court allow bargaining to go on when a child has suffered or lost their life because of someone else's sick, disturbing, disgusting actions? :cuss: Let me be a judge..... no appeals, no bargains.... no slap on the wrists... I've seen first hand how these monsters live, and it must be stopped!

[emay1emay]

what about the sixty to eighty he would have lived ha took everything and got nothing, the murdering crap will still have a full life ahead of him:flamemad: :cuss: :cuss:

[txbear]

Emay,

:rose: for you and your son.
I will sign your petition and write letters. My heart breaks for you.

:rose:

[lysa]

As a law enforcement officer, I would have to agree that the online petition probably isn't going to do a lot of good. If you can get a letter writing campain going that might be your best bet. Truthfully the best thing you can do is appear at every parole hearing he has to protest it. If you don't show then it appears that you don't care what happens. Hopefully in your state, they will notify you of all of his hearings in relation to this. It would be great if you could get the survivor to go with you also. Sadly you must not have been given a choice to allow him to plead out to that deal. In my state, or at least our local State Attorney's Office, the get with the families before decisions like that are made...sad they didn't give you the opportunity to have your say in it.....:confused:

I can't imagine your grief when your son was murdered. How can the court release that man? It's insane! :rose:

[BevAnn]

:rose: for you emay

:rose: for you nomi21


I am on the verge of tears as I read your story emay. I have a 10 year old son, and 7 yr old son, and can not imagine.....I truly believe I would have had to have been committed by now. You are an extremely strong and brave person, and I commend you. They say God does not give us more than we can handle. Please know my prayers are with you.

Bev Ann

[emay1emay]

i was extremely glad to hear from you nomi and i do realize that you are haunted by this daily, time does not heal all wounds but it changes and sometimes lets it be easier to bear. jjgirl, as of yet the person in the local newspaper has not responded. fortunately my 30 year old daughter and 34 year old niece that i helped raise are going to help get things going. we are going to make a printable letter of protest for online to be printed, signed and mailed. the online petition and local petitions. i know i will have a lot of local support because my son was well loved in our community. and i am very open to any new suggestions thank you all very much ,,it does my heart good and you are all a wonderful inspiration.

[James_A]

Emay, Please accept my condolences for the loss of your son.....I know how you feel, knowing that there is a chance that the monster that committed this hideous crime may walk the steets again.

If there is anything I can do to help....sign petitions....write letters.....Please let me know.

Can I ask your opinion about 1 thing? Do you think the DA accepted the plea bargin because she truly wanted to spare the other victim? Or, do you think the DA just wanted to get that man off the streets, get a X in the win column and move on to the next case?

[emay1emay]

but they had a confession on tape because they wired one of his associates and had him believing that he had to move the body because they were closing in on him so he admitted he had killed him and they had much evidence .... so for what ever reason the DA came up with is not valid to me and i was so numb at the time ,, i am sorry to say, i didnt realize i could have any say in it....and there is to the best of my knowledge much more that couldstill be done with the evidence to keep him in jail and not let him out..... i can only pray that somebody listens and dont feel like im trying to trash the da or the police because the police definately did one he@@ of a job catching this scumbag but i feel it was also a dis service to them that he wasnt fully prosecuted....and i have no problem with anyone posting any questions or comments on my threads and please feel free to caontact me anytime i can help you..... about anything and ia m sosorry for your loss... i am going to read your thread now and then answer your letter..

[James_A]

Emay, Thank You, your opinion does mean alot to me......and I dont think you trashed anyone. You said things that were on your mind than, and are on your mind now.

Let me know if there is anything I can to to help......maybe a letter writing campain, to the person that appointed the porole board.....not e-mail....letter writing.....there are alot of people that would want to help...if we only knew how....

My prayers are with you everyday

[emay1emay]

we went on the prison site to verify his information and found out he was discharged on 9-20-05 much to our horror until we read farther and t said deceased, we are still trying to find out how,,, but the importatnt thing is he willl never walk the streets again.....:seeya: :beer:

[emay1emay]

when my daughter went online to do her victim impact statement she was horrified to see that david barnett had been discharged on her younger brothers birthday, further investigation revealed he was carried out in a body bag......the monster is dead..... we are still waiting for details but i wanted to share this news with you, i will keep thg9ings updated as i hear anything

[emay1emay]

when we were preparing our victim impact statement to keep the murdering pedophile in prison we found out he was carried out in a bodybag on my sons birthday....

[court~critic1®]

As far as I am concerned that is good news. Tks for the info. Please do keep us updated.


:rose: :rose: :rose: for your son.

[lorjac]

I hope this brings some sort of closure to you & your family. Knowing that this individual will never be free to walk the streets, torment, hurt or kill another child.

For the loss of your son :rose:

[emay1emay]

that he committed suicide..... and tomorrow i will know more details. thank you everyone

[emay1emay]

an interview and was told he committed suicide by hanging himself with a sheet

[herlock h.]

What an interesting turn of events. I hope this brings you some sort of peace - which you so justly deserve. I am very sorry for all you have suffered.

Blessings,
Herlock

[emay1emay]

i put news on this line so my associates and freinds would know that i now have a little closure, the beast that killed my son committed suicide on my sons birthday by hanging hiself with a sheet,,,strangulation same as my son, and yes it feels good to know that he wont ever be in the streets again to kill or destroy another child

[emay1emay]

i have seen a change in my surviving children as well as i definately feel better myself, and yes i may be sinning for rejoicing in his death but i cant help what i feel. and happy i am

[Pretty Leaf]

Emay--sorry for your loss. Many think an eye for an eye. Justice system won't do it so the suicide of this man was his just desserts.

[lorilee228]

i think nomi is doing the right thing. i think we get the most support from persons who have been through similar situations.
__________________
"The eyes see in things only what they look for, and they look for what is already in the mind."
Luke S May, Crime's Nemesis, 1936
(pg.101 Principles and Practices of Criminalistics).

http://forensicpsychstudy.blogspot.com [/B][/QUOTE]

[emay1emay]

in our thoughts and prayers, and yes to everyone who has been asking, it does give some feeling of closure,,, i no longer have to fight to keep him in prison, so i feel a certain peace of mind,,,, it is much easier to deal with,

[r_drummond420]

Originally posted by Staple4351
So sorry to hear about your son. I can't even imagine what you went through and I'm sure are still going through.

Our society will always protect criminals even when it costs people their lives. You would think by now people would understand that anyone committing a sexual crime especially against kids will only continue to do it. I don't believe people like that can be cured - ever. But as long as the insanely politically correct people run this world it will continue to happen.

It's nuts.

Again, so sorry for your loss. I hope you find peace.

:beer: Excellent quote! that goes double for me! If you live in the AZ area please let me know if there's anything we can do!:rose: :rose:

[emay1emay]

thanks thanks to everyone..... it helps so much to know so many other people care.......;)

[LSUPhilly 9.0]

Sorry to get in on the discussion so late but that is WONDERFUL NEWS! If you think you are sinning for feeling good then I am in trouble---I have already been accused of being filled with hate (which I am not) because I hate double murderer's (OJ) and rapists (KOBE BRYANT-don't start Kobe fan's---he admitted it in a letter)!

So to hear the basdard who killed your son killed himself made me happy!!! I guess this is wrong but my Christmas wish is that all child killers and rapists do the same!

Like Dennis Miller said, "If you have thought's of hurting or having sex with a child---kill yourself---come on---do what's right and take one for the team!"

:rose: For your son!!!!

[emay1emay]

amen to that........it was is gods hands