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DLB
10-10-2005, 08:56 PM
I am wondering if there has been any information on whether they located Taylor Behl's cell phone, car keys or the skateboard she was suppose have with her the day she went missing. I also can not believe the vcu allowed a 38 yr old man to just roam around there campus preying on young woman. This whole case is beyond words. I feel so sorry for Taylor's parents. And I hope that if Ben fawley did committhis crime that he spends the rest of his life on deathrow, and see what it is like to be helpless, and at the mercy of others.
DLB, Massachusetts

PMcOuntry
10-10-2005, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by DLB
I am wondering if there has been any information on whether they located Taylor Behl's cell phone, car keys or the skateboard she was suppose have with her the day she went missing. I also can not believe the vcu allowed a 38 yr old man to just roam around there campus preying on young woman. This whole case is beyond words. I feel so sorry for Taylor's parents. And I hope that if Ben fawley did committhis crime that he spends the rest of his life on deathrow, and see what it is like to be helpless, and at the mercy of others.
DLB, Massachusetts

I doubt they "knew" a 38 yr old man was roaming about campus. he does not look that old. I also know that adults are allowed to live on campus/in dorms at most, if not all colleges. It's not just for "teens".

DLB
10-10-2005, 09:56 PM
This is true, about older people attending college,especially since he did not look his age, but was he a student there, I havent read any where that he was registrered there, and if so what course would he be taking, his GPA,or was he just hanging around there knowing that there would be alot of fresh young naive woman mostl likely there first time away from home, attending college, therefore enabling he the prefect opportunity to worn his way into there unspecting lives, by intriguing them with his photography, skateboarding and strange ways, a plus having his own place.
Massachsuetts

somechick
10-10-2005, 10:17 PM
yeah, i have classmates, currently active fraternity brothers (it's a co-ed ****), and a roommate that is older than the stereotypical college student. so it's not vcu's fault that BF lived near or hung around school grounds. VCU is not age-ist. The VCU campus is completely open to the rest of the city of Richmond. It's an urban campus and the students who go here should understand that (and so should their parents). I can't count on my fingers and toes how many times a shady, and probably homeless, person begged me for money on my way back to my dorm from classes or the bookstore. Also on the Monroe Park campus, just across the street from Taylor's dorm is a public park (called Monroe park ...duh) that I would not be caught dead walking in early in the morning and late at night and never without a group of friends. Even though Monroe Park may look like a part of the VCU campus, it's not and VCU has no control over who hangs out there.

singlesix
10-10-2005, 10:53 PM
I haven't seen anything about the phone, keys, etc. in the local paper or heard anything on the radio or tv. I also haven't seen any detectives working in the neighborhood during the past 2 or 3 days. I'm sure they're working, just not door to door like they were a week or so ago.

VCU has more than 26,000 students and most of them are adults. With its central location in the city, there are lots of part-time students, graduate students and people taking classes for the heck of it.

FWIW, Monroe Park is the original location of the state fair and U.S. 1 runs along the east side.

singlesix

somechick
10-10-2005, 11:43 PM
yep, and during the day and night Monroe Park houses many of Richmond's homeless. I haven't been here during the summer, but during the spring when the weather warms up the park is actually a beautiful sight... tons of students playing frisbee and reading under the tree. Some students mistakenly think of it as a part of the VCU campus but it isn't. It's not like that grassy enole (i don't know what they call it) on the W&M campus that is actually W&M property. Anyway, I was just mentioning that to note that students and non-students alike, regardless of age and profession (or lack thereof) frequent the streets contained on the VCU campus. It's an urban campus (which students, Taylor included, come to experience).... not gated, closed off from the rest of Richmond like the schools girls attended in the 50s (?).

singlesix
10-11-2005, 08:57 AM
VCU from the intersection of Belvidere(Route 1) and W. Main looking northwest across Monroe Park. For some reason I can't insert an image...


www.richmondcitywatch.com/Pictures/vcu_e6.jpg

Anni
10-14-2005, 02:35 PM
lots to read and a article about Taylors memorial services yesterday. I found this link looking around over on the webslueths site.

http://taylorbehl.notagz.com/

nibblet
10-14-2005, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by singlesix
VCU from the intersection of Belvidere(Route 1) and W. Main looking northwest across Monroe Park. For some reason I can't insert an image...


www.richmondcitywatch.com/Pictures/vcu_e6.jpg

Just out of curiousity - as it has been awhile since I've been to Richmond - are the school buildings somewhat close together or spread out over many, many city blocks.

For example, if you had a class in one building can you make it to your next class in another building that is cross "campus" within a reasonable walking time?

starling
10-14-2005, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by DLB
I am wondering if there has been any information on whether they located Taylor Behl's cell phone, car keys or the skateboard she was suppose have with her the day she went missing. I also can not believe the vcu allowed a 38 yr old man to just roam around there campus preying on young woman. This whole case is beyond words. I feel so sorry for Taylor's parents. And I hope that if Ben fawley did committhis crime that he spends the rest of his life on deathrow, and see what it is like to be helpless, and at the mercy of others.
DLB, Massachusetts

Erin, in her interview, talked about Taylor having her phone "out there"
behind her (Erin) parent's property...just ringing and ringing
I assume,from reading various reports, that Erin happen to be with the LE when they came upon Taylor's body. Somehow Erin knows the cell was on Taylor.
IMO either she saw that or heard it from the LE.
LE would never confirm the media asking if TB was found in the same clothes but Taylor's mom did say on Greta that TB's black hoodie was "with" her.
From these 2 things, IMO the cell was there (maybe visable)or near her clothes.

PMcOuntry
10-14-2005, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by starling


Erin, in her interview, talked about Taylor having her phone "out there"
behind her (Erin) parent's property...just ringing and ringing
I assume,from reading various reports, that Erin happen to be with the LE when they came upon Taylor's body. Somehow Erin knows the cell was on Taylor.
IMO either she saw that or heard it from the LE.
LE would never confirm the media asking if TB was found in the same clothes but Taylor's mom did say on Greta that TB's black hoodie was "with" her.
From these 2 things, IMO the cell was there (maybe visable)or near her clothes.

What Erin was saying was she could only imagine what it would be like to be lying out there w/your phone ringing and no one to find you... because she was either dead or couldn't answer or whatever. It was a metephor. She didn't know that she had a phone on her or not. They reported she left w/a cell phone on her persons, so we can assume it was either on her or whomever did this got rid of the phone/destroyed it. Most of the clothes were probably decomposed also, if the body was. I do not think Erin was ever on the crime scene.

somechick
10-14-2005, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by nibblet


Just out of curiousity - as it has been awhile since I've been to Richmond - are the school buildings somewhat close together or spread out over many, many city blocks.

For example, if you had a class in one building can you make it to your next class in another building that is cross "campus" within a reasonable walking time?

The buildings are spread out over city blocks; however, it's still reasonable to get to your next class because most of the class buildings are in the same vicinity (Temple, Oliver, the Life Science Bldg., Business are the main ones and in the same general area). Hibbs and the honors dorm on W. Grace (which also holds a room where some honors classes meet) are the only ones that are apart from the rest. It's the dorms that are really spread over the city. Also if you have to go to the medical side of campus from the monroe park side (or vice versa) you can't walk it. You have to either drive or take the VCU bus. I know that can be annoying for people, and I'm grateful I don't have to hop back and forth b/t campuses. VCU has a lot more construction in the works, so then VCU will contain even more blocks. I think the plans are somewhere on the VCU website. I remember getting an email about it....like I should be excited or something. By the time it's done, I'll be out of this city I hope...

somechick
10-14-2005, 06:26 PM
Another post because I failed to consider the buildings that hold a lot of the arts classes. The art school is like a seperate entity in itself, considering VCU used to be just a school for the arts when it went by the of Richmond Professional Institute. I think the art buildings are far apart from the rest. I know one is on top of a parking deck on Bowe(?) Street and the other is on Harrison (Pollack building). Perhaps there's an art student from VCU up here that can correct any errors I may have. I remember my old roommate (an fashion major) being flustered about running late because her classes were a bit farther, but she was always running late regardless, so it could have just been her.

Perenty
10-16-2005, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by singlesix
VCU from the intersection of Belvidere(Route 1) and W. Main looking northwest across Monroe Park. For some reason I can't insert an image...


www.richmondcitywatch.com/Pictures/vcu_e6.jpg


Good picture. As somechick says, VCU is an urban campus. The streets that run throught it are public streets, open to anybody driving or walking. It is not a cloistered place. There are blocks where some buildings are VCU, and others are under private ownership. This was more true back in the 1970s when I visited that area often on business. Grace Street was particularly that way.

In the picture, two of the notable buildings bordering Monroe Park are not VCU. The gray building with the green copper roof is the Cathedral, head church of the Catholic Diocese of Richmond. The big brick building next to it is an old sorta civic auditorium called The Mosque. Actually, it may now be a part of VCU. I don't get to Richmond much any more.

The empty parking deck at the lower right corner of the picture is part of the former Monroe Park Hotel. It was a cool place in the 70s when I visited Richmond a lot on business. I think it was operated by Sheraton, and was a pretty nice place, reasonably convenient to downtown business and government buildings (about maybe a mile and a half walk down Grace Street to the Capitol, really nice on a spring or fall day), and walking distance to some good restaurants, etc., in the Fan area.

It was always interesting to walk out at night for a sixpack at the 7-11 on one of the cross streets (Monroe, I think) between Franklin and Grace. Never knew who or what you might see there.

It later got pretty seedy, and my friends and I referred to it as the Hotel Sleaze, even though I stayed there occasionally up until very near its last days as a commercial hotel.

Somewhere around 1980, it went out of the hotel business and VCU bought or leased it for student housing. It has since been torn down I believe. The point of this digression is that one of Ben's series of photos is called "Park Hotel" and has images of the vacant and derelict building. You can recognize the parking deck in some of those pictures.